From Danny Wyatt Sent Mon, Jun 28th 1999, 21:13
From Danny Wyatt Sent Mon, Jun 28th 1999, 21:13
Did you ever see that drawing Lacan did spoofing the "arbre" / (image of
tree) diagram in Saussure's _Course on General Linguistics_ where it's
"hommes femmes" / (image of two doors)? I laughed so hard I wet my pants.
No I didn't.
np: Scritti Politti - I'm in Love with Jacques Derrida
( http://www.hydra.umn.edu/scritti.au )
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> Subject: Re: (idm) listening to music...
>
>
> This entire sarcastic speal is completely unjustified.
>
> Let me explain it to you in black and white oh not-getting-it one.
>
> Communication does not necessaraly have to be the transfer of
> language/ words.
>
> When you hear a word it produces an idea in your head... you hear
> the word
> "Tree" and if you speak enlglish.. you understand.. you get a
> mental picture
> of a tree in your head.. when you hear the sound tree your brain
> remembers
> it, the file name is the sound "tree" and the data located there
> is an idea..
> However, words can easily be interpreted differently by
> different people.
> The data or "idea" located at that file name "the sound" can be
> different for
> each person based on their life experiences with said idea. Therefore
> language is a flawed form of communication, since different
> people can have
> different impressions of words, the very same sentance can have different
> meanings to different people.
> What if that man drowning didn't speak any language known to you?
> How would
> he commicate to you he needed help? The only way you would know he was in
> distress would be the tone of his voice? Hence inflection/tone of
> voice can
> be seen to be a higher form of communication than language..
> afterall.. if he
> made really distressing sounds.. you'd know he was in some form
> of trouble,
> no matter what language you were spoke. Same with music,.. music.. sound
> alone.. can say an endless amount more than words ever could.
> Music is by far
> a more pure form of language than spoken word could ever hope to be. Does
> that mean when you're drowning you should start whistling the Pop Eye the
> Sailor Man? Yes oh intelligent ass-ed one.
>
> > i find verbal communication easier to understand, personally.
> >
> > <overheard near a pool>
> >
> > "look at this guy, he seems to be drowning!!!"
> >
> > "no way, if he were, he'd be crying for help rather than humming the
> > gilligan tune, don't you think? stop being so silly."
> >
> > "well, you gotta admit i guess he has to be pretty skilled for doing so
> > even after 5 minutes underwater."
> >
> > "i don't understand you, paul."
> >
> > "la la la la la mmmmmmm mmm la la la la"
> >
> > "ohh, that, hrm, yeah, i bet he does, eh."
> >
>
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