(idm) Sigh (kids today)

From Philip Downey
Sent Thu, Jan 22nd 1998, 14:45

>You are putting Kraftwerk as inovative. That's like putting L.V. Bethowen
>(i don't even know how to spell it) as inovative. OK Black Dog is in
>our century so it's allright. (but Kraftw..... come on).
>You are promoting grandparents on the list and young people like
>Simon Pykes who are the next generations of music makers, you
>put them as LATTER category. Woow gee, thanks.
>
>C'mon , swich ON.
>
>
>Rob's bro.
>
As usual, your mountainous ignorance is appalling. I know, I know, you 
only care about new things, different things, and that's fine. I remember 
a similarly ridiculous post last year that was horrifyingly ignorant. And 
I'm not going to bother with yours and my opinion of Freeform--because 
the point of this flame is that you obviously know nothing about the 
history of music. 

How about some context here? Beethoven was an original. Read any book on 
music history. They all say that. 150 years of music historians is a good 
enough consensus for me. Beethoven's early stuff obviously picks up where 
Mozart left off, but then he goes on to invent this period of music (the 
Romantic one) that lasted another fifty or sixty years. Listen to all 
nine symphonies and see the drastic departure that begins with the Third. 
Have you ever been to a movie? The soundtrack is due to Beethoven more 
than 99% of the time.

Kraftwerk then. Innovators. Definitely. Good. Yes. Tour de France is 
still a heart-stopper. Others on this list can comment better on them 
than I could, so I'll leave that to them. But before Kraftwerk, there 
wasn't anything recognizable as 'techno.' There was disco, prog rock, and 
W. Carlos. Came outta nowhere, friend. Not just that, it was also good.

Maybe you're just trying to be flame bait and I've fallen for it. Maybe 
Rob's bro is a split personality, or perhaps you're just young. I'll 
grant that maybe you haven't had time to experience all this music, but 
don't even try commenting on it until you've heard it. (Ad hominem 
attacks, only 99 cents! Cheap and fun!)

Back to your insular world, bro.

Phil Downey

"It's one thing to be open-minded and another to let your brains fall 
out."
Gregory Benford, Matter's End