Re: (idm) Sigh (kids today)

From Ashok Divakaran
Sent Thu, Jan 22nd 1998, 21:18

> And no, it didn't come out of nowhere. This gets mentioned over and over
> again on this list, but Kraftwerk was merely continuing on a path already
> well-trodden by Stockhausen, Satie and other classical pioneers, and was
> part of a large movement which also included Tangerine Dream, Can, Van Der
> Graaf Generator, and a bunch of other wonky stuff you sometimes find in
> used bins in the better hippie stores. It was only in the early 80's that
> Kraftwerk looked around them, and discovered that young black kids in the
> ghetto (horrors!) had become their true offspring, and incorporated these
> kids' bastardizations into their own music. Hence, Tour De France.


Harsh! I don't think TdF is staggeringly different from the other stuff that
KW was doing a few years earlier and I don't really hear the bastardizations
you speak of.

It's been said (forgot where) that KW were the grandaddies of *techno* and
that Klaus Schulze was that of trance. I think the distinction is a bit sticky,
but it's certainly fair to say that there wasn't anything that *sounded* even
remotely like techno before KW came on the scene with their mid-70s records.
The similarities with Stockhausen et al. (which are questionable to start with;
the fact that KW were inspired by Stocky does not really mean that they shared
the same aesthetic) end at best at the conceptual level.

Ashok

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