From nd Sent Sun, Jun 20th 1999, 11:33
From nd Sent Sun, Jun 20th 1999, 11:33
>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:30:00 +0100 >From: Mixmaster Morris <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> >Subject: (idm) Re: idm-digest V2 #722 > >>Milano 2000 is an offshoot of the Ishtar label. > >Italian clubs seem to be characterised by beautiful people and horrid music >things are changing i think cos i played in milan with da ninjas and it was >good You get two kinds of clubs in Italy usually: -"normal" clubs, all legal, with crap house music, latin shit etc. and lotsa posers (only a few BIG clubs actually have good techno and house and guests from abroad, usually in a sunny/ibiza/sea style). -"centri sociali": there is a long tradition of political squatting in Italy, something that is very peculiar to the italian situation, in that these have always been very open to the public and entertainment is one of their major functions. Some of these places can hold up to a thousand people and more, and constitute major crossroads for cultural innovation, political elaboration etc. Centri sociali are usually leftwing, and quite radical at that too. Well, these are the places where you find the best music in Italy. Morris, you must have been there already, I seem to remember. I remember seeing PWOG in the early nineties in Bologna for $2, and realizing it was finally happening in Italy too... Since then, I saw a lot of IDM acts live and djing, always exclusively in centri sociali. Remember the Mutoids are based in Italy since the early nineties, too, because they probably found the best place to stay... Plus there are a handful of legal clubs that do great idm, but very far apart and not that many (and they tend to cost a lot more). >There must be a big loungecore scene somewhere in italy cos loads of >records are coming out It has been developing recently. Irma has made a fortune out of lounge, and defined the genre in Italy also by repressing all sorts of old soundtracks to italian b-movies. It is kind of similar to the french stuff, in a Dimitri >From Paris kind of way. It's been going on for a few years now, and you get djs and stuff specializing in it etc. >apparently there is no word for copyright in the italian language .... oh no, there is... unfortunately. There is not ONE word, but two: "diritti d'autore" (author's rights), and it's a nightmare in Italy. That is also why not much stuff gets published abroad. The italian authors society is a gigantic heap of bureaucracy that can really hassle people who work with music in Italy. Depositing tracks is complicated, importing records by mail order can even become risky for record shops (cause they don't have the society's stamp on it), and laws in general are quite messy. There is a big no-copyright movement in the above cited centri sociali, which even leads to books etc. And there is a long tradition of heavy bootlegging in the mafia, of course... Zenon: >A friend from Torino likes to quote an Italian expression which translates: > >"A law is made, a law is broken." >Also, when driving: > "Red is a dark shade of green." :-) Imagine organizing the music market and authors' rights with such principles... Strange place, but I love it nd the revolution will be remixed. ....................................................... <table homepage - idm and multimedia> http://www.tinet.ch/table <records for sale/trade etc.> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1087/idm.htm .......................................................