RE: (idm) back in my day...

From WARD Giles
Sent Mon, Jun 29th 1998, 09:42

Um.. sorry Jon I was taking the piss a bit.  I don't hate guitars at all.
Some-one recently mentioned people having 'rules' about any new music they
hear.. (guitar... must be crap!),  (vocals... must be crap!).  Maybe they
have heard a lot of crap guitar/vocal stuff but I bet they've also heard a
shit-load of crap electronic stuff.  Personally I love listening to guitar
stuff which uses alternate tunings (Sonic Youth, Polvo etc.)  The textures
they get from dissonance and feedback etc. are often coming from the same
direction as the most experimental electronic things I get to hear.

I wrote:
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> >> I have nothing against the guitar as an instrument.
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> >I do! I hate the buggers!
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And Jon responded:

> May I ask why?
> 
> I have been playing guitar for a while now and true its having a hard time
> fitting within the confines of idm.  I've been experimenting, as have a
> few
> people I know,  and the results range from surf jungle combo to a complete
> ambient mess.  Squarepusher fit's a very Jaco Pastorious sound and style
> into feed me weird things,  so I don't see why the same couldn't be done
> with other instruments.  I firmly believe that within the hands of a
> talented muscian the guitar could be made to fit.  I just heard Pat
> Metheny
> playing over jungle beats.  Although i've never been a fan of Pat,  he's
> coming closer to bridging the gap between guitar and idm or whatever the
> hell you want to call it. 
> 
> I think part of the problem revolves around the fact that weird sounds are
> sometimes seen as being more important than melodies and chord structures.
> Not to say that these are the only important things.  I'm just rambling
> now...
> 
> To surmise... I _hate_ to hear people put down any instrument,  its stupid
> and close minded.  
> 
> <Jon>m
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