Re: (idm) Re:get your mp3s off of geocities asap!!!

From objet
Sent Thu, Jul 1st 1999, 08:57

> It takes a few users and Yahoo buckles like a
> belt.

They didn't buckle at all. Don't mistake a fat businessman loosening his
belt for simple 'buckling'.

All that Yahoo did was adjust the 'language' of the TOS to essentially
'apologize' for not having warned people of the recent change. 
The adjustment -- almost worst than no adjustment at all, since all it
does is add an extra layer of patronizing rhetoric (how many times can
people fall for this kind of shit?) -- is this:

> Yahoo does not own Content you submit, unless we
> specifically tell you otherwise before you submit it.

But immediately thereafter, they do just that -- tell you otherwise. 

For the TOS agreement still reads:

> By submitting Content to any
> Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or warrant that
> the owner of such Content has expressly granted, Yahoo
> the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and
> fully sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce,
> modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works
> from, distribute, perform and display such Content (in
> whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other
> works in any form, media, or technology now known or
> later developed.

So -- the "buckling" difference introduced by such an adjustment in
'language' is this: all uploads to Yahoo/Geocities *from this day forth*
will still remain the perpetual, irrevocable intellectual property of
Yahoo. The only sites conceivably covered by Wednesday's TOS adjustment
are ones that condemn themselves to *never being updated*. 

Yahoo's stock surged today. There's a reason for that. You can be sure
that traders are betting, even if only remotely, on the chance that folx
like us might be the new, totally clueless slave labor class producing
the next generation of internet content (not form, mind you, but
content. To quote an AFX track title, there's a Vaz Deferenz between the
two. There: IDM content.) It's already happening, really: look at, which exclusively relies on AoHell style 'volunteers' (i.e.
suckers) to engineer content -- in exchange for the sole,
psychologically self-aggrandizing reward of being 'noble guides across
the new electronic frontier.' This is a hotly developing trend, one that
could ultimately make all MP3 piracy issues look like squabbles over
chump change.    

I just took down my Geocities pages, only one day after I uploaded an
MP3 of a really neat 14 minute Lamb/Andrea Parker/lasttrackofMask300
mix. It'll all be up elsewhere soon enough, but that's not the point.

I urge anyone else here with webspace at Geocities or Yahoo to do the
same, and also urge you to visit these links: -- a page of grassroots
protest, one that promotes the eating up of Yahoo/Geocities server space
with similar protest sites. -- th URL says
it all.