Re: (idm) Arcon 2 and other reviews

From Martin
Sent Mon, Dec 1st 1997, 20:54




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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:15:16 +0000 ()
From: "Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\]" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: (idm) Arcon 2 and other reviews
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 Degiorgio also applies the cut up technique, taken from dnb,
to his drum loops, so that they sound almost 'live'. I find it interest=
ing
that it seems there is a trend in drum progrmming aesthetic these days
that attempts to mimick live drums, like say Squarepusher, or perhaps t=
he
new 4Hero EP, or maybe Steve Pickton's latest stuff, or Plantary Folklo=
re.
I like it, because just when you have fallen into a groove, the artist
will throw out a burst of snares or cymbals that clearly remind you *th=
is
is being electronically manipulated*.
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i have been listening to this record quite a bit and definately enjoyin=
g
it. this description of the drums sounding live w/ reminders of electro=
nic
manipulation is pretty spot-on. taking it further it is almost as if
degiorgio has attempted to re-construct a mid-late '60's jazz sound w/ =
max
roach (from a quick scan of the sleevenotes there was a definate name-c=
heck
here, tho' i didn't delve into detail or context - sorry don't have it =
to
hand fact-checkers) and pharoah sanders, and give it an ever so slight
modern electronic edge. and here lies the niggle. why? i'm not convince=
d
that what was revolutionary 30 years past can be much more than
entertaining if reproduced today as an original work. and it is,
entertaining that is and very well put together, oozing meticulous skil=
l.
but i can't see it causing an upset on the scale of ancestors like davi=
s,
sanders, coltrane..., or even contempories like squarepusher and the
d*ill'n'b**s hordes. a bit of a puzzler really.

-martin

-btw-
the digest #1369 i recieved consisted of - ??, and i'm quoting it in it=
s
entirety here. did the list server commit suicide as a result of the "w=
hat
is idm" erm, discussion? did artificial intelligence advance to the poi=
nt
where software can now not only feel emotion but react to bleak despair=
?
off list replies welcome.

np squarepusher/burningn'n tree
(now there's clarity and functional design. all the tracks are listed o=
n
both the box and the disc. my cd player even shows them on the display;=
-)
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