Re: (idm) Floating Point, Oval

From Brad Shelton
Sent Thu, Jan 28th 1999, 14:58

>From: Beaumont Dilver <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
>
>> the pan sonic/oval tracks are listed wrong on the 
>> cover of prayer/salvation?
>> where did you here this? is it just a rumour?
>> i want to know too!
>
>don't know where you could have recieved such information but each
>track is obviously from the group as listed. the Oval track is boring
>digital ambience that sounds just like all their other lame-ass
>tracks.

Heh.

> (btw: if you want GOOD digital ambience check out Robert
>Henke's Floating Point on Imbalance). The Panasonic is brilliant pure
>electronics, just as one would expect.

Could someone describe how Floating Point sounds using Monolake and Oval as
comparison points? 



>From: "Vanheumen, Robert" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
>i hear a lot about oval lately; what kind of music do they make (i know
>it's electronics, but is it like autechre, or more like the chain
>reaction guys, or something completely different...)...
>and which of their cd's should i buy?

You've gotten some really good replies already, let me add another 2 cents. 

Some folks seem to think of them as gimmicky (CD skipping). I just don't
understand that.. The sound of a malfunctioning CD is not equivalent to the
textured ambience that Oval creates. IMO it is a creative and musical
process to turn the former into the latter. 

Their ambient (beatless) bits are no different to my mind musically from
the more common forms found on records by Woob, Namlook, whoever. Oval is
never completely arythmic and chaotic- rather their rythmic experiments can
be beautiful. For example, compare Ae's Fold4 Wrap5 to the centerpiece of
94Diskont, do while. For my money Oval's foray into liquid-tempo
electronics is more successful (as well as being 4 years ahead of that
particular curve).
 
The first CD has vocals and is krautrock-like as someone else already
mentioned. This  one (Wohnton) might be a bit offputting even for Oval
completists.

Their second release (Systemisch) is their finest for me. The sound is
really warm, and quite structured in places. (The opening track is dubbier
than anything on Pole's LP1, fer goodness sake!) No vocals, sound
experimentation brought to the foreground.

Third (94diskont) is also very good. Unfortunately I've never heard the
remixes that accompany the vinyl release.

The next (Dok) has a different sound, not as warm. Cooler, bell-type sounds
as others have said. This one hasn't yet grabbed me the way Systemisch and
94diskont have, but I'm sure it will at some point. :)

For more information on these and other Oval-related releases check out
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~vache/.