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Now that we're on the topic, I'd like to ask for any experiences or opinions people might have with the following books dealing with computer music: - Charles Dodge and Thomas A. Jerse: Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance - Composing Music with Computers (Music Technology Series) - Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) I've heard some recommendations for each one, but haven't seen them pop up on this list. I've yet to read any book dealing with computer music, and I was wondering if one of these would be a better starting point than Roads' CMT? Or if CMT is the preferred first read, whether it would still be worthwhile to read some of these for something CMT did not cover... Visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jul 1 01:03:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30958-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77893 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:03:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 77882 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:03:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:03:18 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD08DB16.2328%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/28/04 11:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > micro korg i believe ,it small, sounds good too.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jul 1 00:51:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30957-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72678 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:51:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 72668 invoked from network); Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:51:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:29 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2004 00:51:29.0378 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B8A2C20:01C45F05] Thanks Malte, I have the Computer Music book and it's very good but not enough anymore. I tried buying the csound book over a year ago but amazon (uk) couldn't get it. There seems to be some good priced secondhand ones that would be cheaper to pay postage on fram the states. The DSP primer I hadn't come across and looks very interesting, perhaps I can get this second hand also. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. Best Murray >From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:54:07 +0200 > >maybe my recommended booksite is from interest: > >http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html > >Cheers, > >Malte >-- >Malte Steiner >media art + development >-www.block4.com- > >next event/ lecture: >pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway >new releases: >elektronengehirn >softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? 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Wed Jun 30 22:53:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30956-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36179 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 36169 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:54:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:54:07 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Books on DSP? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe my recommended booksite is from interest: http://block4.com/research/edu/literature.html Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 21:29:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30955-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8936 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 8925 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:29:52 -0700 From: Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i want to thank ALL the people involved to make happen the madrid project! mill gracias paz J21 On Jun 30, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web > team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in > the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-415-706-9629 W-415-750-3517 http://anihilo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 21:16:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30954-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2461 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:16:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 2451 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:16:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:16:11 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for June 23, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/06/23 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Henri Pousseur > First Parabolic Mix > 4 Parabolic Mixes > Sub Rosa > > > > Ig Henneman String Quartet > Cassettone > Piazza Pia > Wig > > > > Vandermark 5 > Outside Ticket > Elements of Style > Atavistic > > > > Carlos Actis Dato > Wake Up > Tomorrow Night Gig > Leo Records > > > > Michael Bates > Intervention/and then there was Luz > Outside Sources > Pommerac Records > > > > Samworth/Dylan Vander Schyff/Tanquay/Falaise > Oh My! > The Unexpected One > Ambieance Magnestiques > > > > Martin Siewert/Martin Brandlmayr > Is This Love > Too Beautiful to Burn > Erstwhile Records > > > > Phillip Jeck > Third Parobolic Mix > 4 Parobolic Mixes > Sub Rosa > > > > Dutton/Minton/Blonk/Moss/Makigami > Six Cobbings > Five Men Singinbg > Victo > > > > Dave Dyment/Lee Renaldo > Fire 3 > New Life After Fire > Art Metropole > > > > Hans Koch > w/Roger Turner > London Duos and Trios > Intakt Records > > > > Carlos Actis Dato Quartet > Ponzo-Ponzi-Po > Bagdad Boogie > Splasc(h) > > > > Koch Shultz Studer w/El Nil Troop > Vice Versa > Heavy Cairo Traffic > Intuition records > > > > Knyaz Miskin > Summer Session 02 #4 > demo > independent > > > > Mike Hansen/Pau Torres > untilted #3 > june 21/04 > independent > > > > PSI > Head First into Flames > Black american Flag > Evolving Ear > > > > Charlotte Hug > Steinfels > Mauerraum Wandraum > Unit Records > > > > David Manson > All Clear now > Beast > Emit Series > > > > Smash and Teeny > Looking Glass > Gathering > Spool > > > > Trio S > Majorca/Coda > Trio S > Zitherine > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 20:12:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30953-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69750 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:12:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 69740 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:12:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:10:47 +0200 From: IMPOSTURAS <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks Kim & all Good job. Congrats. imposturas ----- Mensaje Original ----- De: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Fecha: Miercoles, Junio 30, 2004 5:32 pm Asunto: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web > team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a > project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:59:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30951-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61844 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 61815 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:05:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [REMINDER] modular systems FM cd launch at phoniq july 2 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx friday july 2 2004 phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd < modular systems FM > featuring : pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com zen - live - ms zaandam khanfucius - dj - panospria.com cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent for the small amount of $5.00 $10.00 including cd all proceeds go to ckut for more info visit www.phoniq.net On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7 tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station. the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists: PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet dance friendly realms. NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house. ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica. phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual environment via various projection sources. BIOS/INFO phoniq ------ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and dj talents. ckut 90.3 fm ------------- www.ckut.ca CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or tune in by Real Audio over the Internet. modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second Tuesday at 3pm. pheek ----- www.pheek.com epsilonlab, thinner Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music. His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music. JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s, inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting to people whose ears werent as close to the ground. Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a show that would forever change his perspective on music. After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling careers. The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period that proved a catalyst for JPs later success. The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP played with them since the very first night of their existence and for almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs prestigious ADISQ music awards. Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the following year. Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3 labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase. As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal based label as they will launch a mp3 department. naw --- www.noisefactoryrecords.com aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967) Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted musics. Neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot, Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed extensively along side a variety of national and international artists both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004. zen --- ms zaandam zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz drummer. While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha, swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied styles of electronic music. Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart, his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced his infusion of genres all across the board. jose garcia ----------- fifteen pounds Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl in panavision then transfered to super 8. the walls flap, figures sail down a hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa. a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner. khanfucius / scant intone -------------------------- Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada) Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. cyan ---- www.traktion.com (aka Corina MacDonald) Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an ideal city to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms, influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective, where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly at these events working the wheels of steel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 20:02:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30952-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64812 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 64801 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:02:49 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Books on DSP? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2004 20:02:43.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B2C150:01C45EDD] --Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Wordered if anyone could recomend a book on DSP in a musical setting. I'm only just starting to look at DSP and have found some usefull stuff on the web but whilst looking at various textbooks recently they all seemed a lot more concerned with communications technology, RADAR and SONAR type uses etc. I have no engineering background so learning the math and equations would be a lot easier from a musical perspective. The microsound book looks good "offer[ing] composition theory, historical accounts, technical overviews, acoustical experiments, descriptions of musical works, and aesthetic reflections" but something similar concerned with DSP would be the kind of thing I'm after. Thanks for your help Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) Also a little bit of self promotion. A friend and I have been doing improvised guitar for a while now and are starting to improvised electronic/laptop stuff aswell. Not all of the content is finished yet but chek out (if yr intrested) www.thelowsandthehighs.co.uk www.plexusmusic.co.uk Cheers --Boundary_(ID_axWjWMntYTlelT1NDuURuw)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:08:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30950-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38945 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:09:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 38935 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:09:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:08:57 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Murray; My recommendation is to pick up the Collected Non-Fictions on Penguin. It's a great compendium of his film reviews, general reports, history, et cetera. I did read Brodie's Report as well. I enjoyed it. I actually used a story that he wrote, an apocryphal story of Abel forgiving Cain, as an intellectual exercise in one of my classes. It worked out quite well. Considering how well-read most of the microsound listers are, I figure Borges should be a natural for the folks there. I have a deep love for theology, surrealism and history, as well as music, so Borges seems to be a perfect writer, although I have to admit that he didn't sink in for me until the third reading of some of his works... Best, Rudy murray wrote: >Rudy, > >I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now. >I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting, >particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish. > >I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large, >collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few >others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing >syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way >he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after >2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This >seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and >rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was >clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started >reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of >time rather than will). > >Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be >good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap. > >regards >Murray > > > >>Murray; >> >>Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since >>returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost >>impossible for me to put down. >> >>Best, >> >>Rudy >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:58:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30948-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30500 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:59:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 30490 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:59:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:59:14 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2004 18:59:10.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[53B9F4F0:01C45ED4] Rudy, I must admit that I didn't really know about his non-fictions untill now. I've had a quick look on the web and they sound very interesting, particularly his film criticism. Let me know more if you wish. I got a great book out of my local library which was quite a large, collected chunk of his output in one book. I read the Aleph and quite a few others which I enjoyed. I found I needed a break though. I love his writing syle and, though I don't yet know a lot about the way Borges worked, the way he retold stories is absolutely amazing. The problem I found was that after 2 or 3 books worth it seemed a bit flat, all played out one level. This seems counterintuitive to the mazes and labyrinths, the works are clever and rich, but I think I need to come back to him again after a while. Also I was clocking up fines and my girlfriend wasn't happy that I still hadn't started reading the Sarte books she bought me for my birthday last year (lack of time rather than will). Have you read "Brodies report"? This sounds interesting. It would also be good to see any changes in his development after a 20 year gap. regards Murray > Murray; > > Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since > returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost > impossible for me to put down. > > Best, > > Rudy > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:57:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30947-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29189 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:57:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 29179 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:57:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:57:43 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The designer was extremely tasteful. Good job. Rudy Joakim Lindén wrote: >Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful. > >Good job! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM >Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > > > > >>microsounders, >>- after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we >>finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! >>http://microsound.org/madrid/ >>- obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are >>expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the >>next few weeks... >>major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) >>KIM >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:47:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30945-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20377 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 20364 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:48:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c45ed2$c8113310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Very easily navigated, very nice, very...respectful. Good job! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 19:02:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30949-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34755 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:02:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 34743 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:02:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:31:32 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] microsound TWiki server! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085514.20585%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I started a page on our new TWiki server (thanks John!) where we can post the book lists we've been posting to the email list...check out: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/microsoundBookList you must register FIRST before you can change or edit a page so make sure you go to the registration page to register before attempting to post something have fun...FYI: help files on TWiki are in abundance via this site so RTFM before posting q's to the list! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:15:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30942-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 183 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:15:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 173 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:15:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:20:04 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! In-reply-to: <000e01c45ec1$97917d50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD087C94.65E4%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote: > really nice page. congrats ! > p. I second that. Very nice! omnid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:48:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30946-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21280 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 21266 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:19:36 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel, Kahn & Cascone To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085248.20581%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Steinbrüchel, Kahn & Cascone have a CD of material that was recorded in Ralph's studio in Zurich over the past couple of years...it's a collection of somber reptilian atmospheres evoking the sound of dragging rusty chains against the hulls of sunken ships...ok, maybe this description is a little poetic but it is very glitchy and ambient... if there are any interested labels out in microsound land that want a copy to evaluate please contact me or Jason Kahn <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> off list... thanks! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:18:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30943-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2079 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:18:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 2064 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:18:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:18:39 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003201c45ece$ac77c1e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD087C94.65E4%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes its looking good - i hope to be able to contribute to the next project I had problems accessing the drop box for this one Well done Kim & all David @ www.audiobulb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al C" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > on 6/30/04 12:45 PM, pyo.p at xxx.x@xxxx.xx wrote: > > > really nice page. congrats ! > > p. > > I second that. Very nice! > > omnid > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:09:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30941-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95068 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 95057 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:09:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:09:59 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000901c45ecd$754a80a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sound visualization and all the different patterns (technical and interpretative) in which is divided, forms on one side a sensorial expansion of the acoustic part and from another side an audience entertainment more often required as added value.The amplification process of a track with visual interpretation can avoid to be just a visual background created for the occasion, but characterize itself with a more deep and flexible analysis related to the audience feedback.Gamma Reader <http://www.ds-x.org/_produkts/produkts/GR-v.1.sit> is a mac sofware that use the famous homonymous Kim Cascone track to re-interpret it by a free downloading software, working on double process (interactive or not).The code creates a parametric structure in wich who is working with can create an image controlling a visual loop in its rotation on multiple layers.The layers division of the choosen image and the richness of graphic interrface used create a process with the sound style elaboration, arriving in a not agreed upon association of audiovisual output. cheers gl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine > http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm > anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:57:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30940-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83331 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 83313 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:57:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader In-reply-to: <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From BabelFish (because I often like bad machine translations better than good human ones): "24.06.04 Range Reader, visual of one trace through parametric software. The visualization of the sound and the thousand rivoli interpreted to you and technical in which it has been subdivided, it on one side constitutes a sensory expansion of the acoustic part, and from the other an entertainment of the more and more demanded spectator like added value. The process to widen a trace with a visual interpretation can therefore avoid on purpose of being a foundation for the eyes created, characterizing itself with a more complex and ductile analysis adapting itself to the feedback of the customer. Range Reader is a software for Mac that uses the omonima celebrated trace of Kim Cascone in order to interpret it through a software to himself being (liberations releasable), acting in the twofold interactive modality and not. The code constructs an parametric structure within which who it interacts to you can elaborate an image regulating a loop visual in its spin on multiple plans. The division of the plan of the chosen image and the remarkable taste of the used graphical interface put into effect an assonant process with the style of elaboration of the sound, sfociando in a society not agreed of audiovisional yield." On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Gianluca Foglino wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:22 +0200 > From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader > > i can try.... > gl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM > Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > > >> check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of > mine >> http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm >> anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:51:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30939-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77955 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 77944 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:51:29 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] note about music cognition In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear group interesting thread this on language and music but am i alone in thinking that music (without a libretto/lyrics) is semiotically empty? it is "just notes" and we can't generalise about the individual "threshold of perception" of audience members who may or may not be responding to coded "puns" etc in an "intertextual" way er, just a thought (a bit blurry tho) regards, David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:25:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30938-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60351 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:25:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 60341 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:25:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: brandon schakola <xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] note about music cognition X-Originating-IP: [64.139.88.243] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQFjrwhA4veGAATKvAEAAAAB,85604dd620c203e6e01e7d6e7b8e5556 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain. We understand music as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc. There's a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the mind understands music in a language-like way. i found a summary of some of these points: http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep sense of semantics. Music in this sense is mostly syntax. So we might be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are inherently tied to semantics. Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning" in music. Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind determining the "logical type" of a phrase. Jokes or puns are usually trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say what we mean by "logical types" in music. Unfortunately my brain isn't quite big enough to wrap around that. But it would be interesting to try. The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here. One way to test a theory about literature to music would be to take a text, parse or structure the text in some way (xml, perl...) and asign musical phrases to certain themes in the structure, and see what the outcome is. This could be achieved via max/msp, pd, supercollider or the likes.... just a thought. brandon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:17:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30937-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55055 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:18:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 55044 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:18:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: brandon schakola <xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] point about music cognition and language X-Originating-IP: [64.139.88.243] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xx_x_x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQFjrwhA4vXEAApCOwEAAAAB,bdf15c3906200da519477bf2ffd59fe6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx re: Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. Well, as far as preconceptions about how music should sound, those are fairly deep structures, in terms of the mind-brain. We understand music as syntactical, in a language-like sense: phrases, motives, etc. There's a book called "A Generative Theory of Tonal Music" by Ray Jackendoff and Fred Lerdahl, which presents some interesting notions about how the mind understands music in a language-like way. i found a summary of some of these points: http://odur.let.rug.nl/~schreudr/ppt/imatra2001b/imatra01ax6.pdf So, although we can metaphorically speak about mapping literature to music, there's something lacking in music that's not in language: a deep sense of semantics. Music in this sense is mostly syntax. So we might be able to talk about the turnings and twistings of motives inside a piece of music, we can't really speak about music in the same ways that a symbol in a text, or a theme might be developed, as these are inherently tied to semantics. Its quite difficult to talk about "meaning" in music. Puns in language usually occur when there are issues in the mind determining the "logical type" of a phrase. Jokes or puns are usually trying to access more than one logical type at the same time, or show some sense of "stress" or "leap" between logica types. So, i guess if we want to push this metaphor into music, we would probably need to say what we mean by "logical types" in music. Unfortunately my brain isn't quite big enough to wrap around that. But it would be interesting to try. The "Suprise Symphony" comes to mind here. One way to test a theory about literature to music would be to take a text, parse or structure the text in some way (xml, perl...) and asign musical phrases to certain themes in the structure, and see what the outcome is. This could be achieved via max/msp, pd, supercollider or the likes.... just a thought. brandon. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 17:13:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30936-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50186 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:13:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 50175 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:13:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:22 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c45ec5$9bd03ba0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i can try.... gl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader > check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine > http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm > anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 16:44:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30935-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32502 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:44:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 32492 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:44:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:45:01 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c45ec1$97917d50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx really nice page. congrats ! p. -- - - - - - - - - - - xxx@xxxx.xx - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://pyo.free.fr http://wigs.project.free.fr http://klp.free.fr http://pause.asso.free.fr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! > microsounders, > - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we > finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! > http://microsound.org/madrid/ > - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are > expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the > next few weeks... > major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 15:40:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30934-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91812 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:41:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 91802 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:41:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:33:52 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Gamma Reader To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD082B70.2052D%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx check out a review (in Italian) of MacOS software art using a piece of mine http://www.neural.it/nnews/gammareader.htm anyone up to translating this review into English for the list? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 15:38:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30933-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89677 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:38:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 89667 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:38:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:32:04 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Madrid page is finally up! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD082B04.2052C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsounders, - after a period of finding, training and coordinating our new web team we finally have the Madrid page up...check it out! http://microsound.org/madrid/ - obviously now that the kinks are being worked out new projects are expected to go live much quicker...so I will announce new a project in the next few weeks... major kudos to our new web team!! thanks to all and good work! :) KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 12:36:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30932-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15378 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:36:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 15368 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:36:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:12:02 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote: > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders _dahlgren_, s. delany [didn't finish] _helping_children_cope_with_divorce_, e.teyber _poetry_ magazine _artists_in_times_of_war_, h.zinn _eastern_standard_tribe_, c.doctorow [read on handspring visor] -- \js (@#@[}~ } |"#)}\`&^ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 10:17:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30931-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 06:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83317 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:18:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 83307 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:18:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:00:37 -0700 From: Joshua Maremont <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.boxmanstudies.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <f05111b02bd07f7dfe63d@[63.198.190.226]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 6:20 AM -0700 6/28/04, Kim Cascone wrote: >hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from >microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be >anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson >tip! These delights lately: Miri Yu - Gold Rush Ryu Murakami - In The Miso Soup Jose Saramago - All The Names (recommended for those with Borges and Kafka on their lists) Arundhati Roy - The God Of Small Things Elfriede Jelinek - Lust Linn Ullmann - Stella Descending Don DeLillo - The Body Artist Stanislaw Lem - Solaris Herbert Asbury - The Barbary Coast Victor Pelevin - Homo Zapiens Frida Sigurdardottir - Night Watch np - Tindersticks (1st album demos) -- Joshua Maremont / Thermal - mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Boxman Studies Label - http://www.boxmanstudies.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 04:46:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30930-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11667 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:46:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 11650 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:46:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT} [Fwd: "BIOTERRORISM" DOWNGRADED TO PETTY THEFT IN FBI EMBARRASSMENT] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.x.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Authentication-warning: iceland.freeshell.org: nobody set sender to xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx using -f List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: "BIOTERRORISM" DOWNGRADED TO PETTY THEFT IN FBI EMBARRASSMENT From: "CAE Legal Defense Fund" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Tue, June 29, 2004 9:35 pm To: "philthom-freeshell.org" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 29, 2004 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx "BIOTERROR" CHARGES DOWNGRADED TO "MAIL FRAUD" IN STEALTH INDICTMENT U.S. Attorneys attempt to cast $256 technicality as health and safety issue in "stealth" indictment Professor Steve Kurtz was charged today by a federal grand jury in Buffalo, New York--not with bioterrorism, as listed on the Joint Terrorism Task Force's original search warrant and subpoenas, but with "petty larceny," in the words of Kurtz attorney Paul Cambria. (See http://www.caedefensefund.org/ for background.) Also indicted was Robert Ferrell, head of the Department of Genetics at the University of Pittsburgh's School of Public Health. The charges concern technicalities of how Ferrell helped Kurtz to obtain $256 worth of harmless bacteria for one of Kurtz's art projects. The laws under which the indictments were obtained--Title 18, United States Code, sections 1341 and 1343, covering mail and wire fraud--are normally used against those defrauding others of money or property, as in telemarketing schemes. This is a far cry from the bioterrorism charges originally sought by the District Attorney. To make a "federal case" out of such minor allegations, the District Attorney will have the burden of proving criminal intent. "There was very obviously no criminal intent," said Kurtz attorney Cambria. "The intent was to educate and enlighten." Cambria suggested that the pursuit of such a minor case at the federal level was profoundly absurd. "If the University of Pittsburgh feels that there was a contract breach, then their remedy is to sue Steve for $256 in a civil court." A STEALTH INDICTMENT The U.S. District Attorney attempted to cast the issue as one of public health and safety in a public press conference called without the knowledge of either defendant's lawyers, thus eliminating the chance of rebuttal. During the conference, parts of which were broadcast on local Buffalo news channels, U.S. Attorney William Hochul and U.S. District Attorney Michael Battle repeatedly alluded to "dangerous" and "bio-hazardous material," even though the charges have nothing to do with such issues, and scientists universally regard the materials in question as safe. At one point in the press conference, U.S. Attorney Hochul stated that Serratia marcescens, one of the two bacteria ordered by Ferrell, "is in fact a dangerous material in that it can cause pneumonia." Serratia cannot cause pneumonia, only aggravate it in someone who already has it, and very rarely at that. Furthermore, it would be hard to characterize as a "dangerous material" something that high school students routinely use in biology class experiments. (Easily trackable by its bright red color, S. marcescens is commonly used to demonstrate the many ways microbes can be destroyed--e.g. with household bleach. The other bacterium, Bacillus globigii, is also used in experiments as a stand-in for dangerous microbes--precisely because it is harmless.) Many believe the attempt to cast the $256 technicality as a public health and safety issue is a face-saving measure by the government, which has already expended an enormous amount of time and money in their fruitless pursuit of this case. ONLY THE BEGINNING Although the original bioterrorism charges are now completely off the table, the trial still promises to be financially and psychologically draining for the defendants. The international support of the defendants by artists, scientists and other citizens has been remarkable; it is crucial that this support continue as the government extends this outrageous and wasteful persecution into a grueling trial. To donate to the defense fund, please visit http://caedefensefund.org/donate.html. Updates on the case will be posted at http://www.caedefensefund.org/. To receive more frequent updates by email, please join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAE_Defense/. =========== Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ label: http://www.centibel.org/ =========== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:25:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30929-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76134 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:25:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 76120 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:25:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:25:48 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: PDRiBtKQl6FI7pKCMvc4eg 1088562348 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > The main differences between a PC and a Mac are (from a sound designer's > point of view): > - PC is cheaper than a Mac to buy, but a Mac keeps it's value > - PC's usually come with Windows. Windows demands your attention all the > time. > > In what way do you mean that Windows "demands your attention all the > time"? > I work on both PC and Mac and don't find either one to demand more of my > time than the other. From what I've seen, both operating systems have > thier own particular issues. And all the talk about how Macs are "more > intuitive" are based on subjective opinions rather than objective ones > because when I first started using PCs, I didn't have much problem > getting around on them (without a manual), but when I started working > with Macs, I had to spend too much time searching for certain basic > functions and system settings. But this was just my personal experience > (again, a subjective one). > > And if you're working with sound, Macs and programs made for Macs are > (yes, needlessly) overpriced, and there are still way more sound oriented > programs available that are made for Windows and cost less money or are > available for free on the internet. > And I still think many people in the sound world partially use Macs > because they are viewed as some sort of status symbol ! ;-) I'm sorry > people, but it doesn't make the music any better just because it was made > on a Mac. Mac is no status symbol in my personal environment. But the fact remains that when using a Mac you don't have to think about the OS all the time. Windows continuously pops up needless messages, especially when connected to the internet. It's real hard to work safe on the internet when using Windows. e.g. the latest version of Windows XP connects to the internet in 16 ways even when the internal firewall is supposed to block all traffic. Foolish and naieve users who still use Outlook and Office often don't realize the danger: since Outlook is glue-ed to the other components of Microsoft office with VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) it is hell easy for even teenagers to write viruses. This is because Microsoft wants the system to be open, and they have no need to secure it like e.g. Java is sandboxed to prevent other from breaking into your system. For more info see http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com and click on the link "What's so bad about Microsoft?" In short, Windows comes standard with a lot of problems and stuff you really don't want to think about. Mac doens't have much of such problems. -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:04:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30928-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69635 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:04:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 69615 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:04:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:05:27 +1000 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Melbourne event: Environ @ Loop this Sunday, Future Eater, Steve Law, bP, Jean P00le, Jouni Vaarallisesti ... many others In-reply-to: <BD08583C.7BE9%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD085D07.7BF6%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here's the hype for the next event we're doing at Loop in Melbourne, Australia this Sunday... Anyone in Melb (or touring Melb soon) should let me know if your interested in being involved in the future. It's first Sunday's on of the month... this month a bunch of laptoppers take on some acoustic nutters to challenge the meaning of the 4th of July! cheers bP ________________ ENViRON : SUNDAY JULY 4 : 7PM TIL LATE : $5 LOOP : 23 Meyers Place Melbourne, Australia What do you get when you combine the drummer from Aussie cult band Black Sorrows, the trombone player from progrssive Jazz Dub crew High Pass Filter, 90¹s techno guru Zen Paradox and a stack of cutting edge electronic audio composers, video artists, DJs and experimental film makers? Environ @ LOOP, Melbourne Australia... Through providing a collaborative structure and a platform for artists and musicians form many tangents of the Melbourne scene, environ generates an atmosphere for new aesthetic outcomes and unique interactions to form in from of the eyes and ears of onlookers. Woven within... talula, is an innovative performance concept with pre-determined roles similar to those used in modern jazz impro-games. This idea however, incorporates the modern tools of the DJ, the VJ and the laptop composer, alongside more traditional instruments like the sax, the drum kit or even the glockenspiel... On July 4th, two talula performances will bring together a fresh combination of participants: Talula #3 (8.30pm) Andrew Sargeant (Future Eater, Micromusic) - electronic audio Ian Kitney (Black Sorrows, Tim Rogers side project) - drums & radio scanning Jean P00le (Newcastle Electrofringe, Plug 'n' Play) - AV Brendan Palmer (Clan Analogue, Zonar, Alchemy) - analog vs digital mix Talula #4 (10.30pm) Steve Law (Zen Paradox, Solitary sound) - laptop audio James Wilkinson (High Pass Filter, Bucketrider) - trombone, conch, toys Kirsten Bradley (Cicada, Re_squared, Nextwave) - AV Viktor Markov (Channel Comm Bulgaria, SBS Radio) - dub mixing Also playing are touring Finnish DJ Jouni Vaarallisesti, ex-Adelaide selector Dubwise and Zaibatsu. Analogue projections come courtesy of John Aslanidis and Paul Rodgers. 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Wed Jun 30 01:56:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30926-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66146 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:56:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 66135 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:56:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:56:45 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: GGkxVDEvr9BWZXFoOkwEIQ 1088560605 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. > > It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes. But this > was the case with MaxMSP as well. In fact, when MSP layer was added > it was it that cased the most havoc. People still bought it and were > happy. I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy > software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free... Don't > take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII. I'm not. My guess is that people who use free software are in general more critical than users that 'just buy' software and complain more (in a civilized way) to make developers enhance the software. > On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to > today's MaxMSP. I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it > crash in some life performances....). I've never seen PureData crash. It had a few glitches once but that was due to the fact I was using Windows and had a bunch of shitty programs installed. My bad. > > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > > Ah. That's whole different story. A lot of patches have been > provided by the community over the years. Keep in mind that pd has a > smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long. Some users > have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more > user-friendly for the newcommers: > > frank Barknecht's RRadical project: > http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki > > David McCullum's abstractions: > http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html > > and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel: > http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html > > There are probably others around. But these should get you started. Great resources! Thanks! > On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your > own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good > so that you don't reeinvent the wheel. Me and another student of my school are trying to set up a pd-site facilitating webspace for this kind of stuff. > > Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer > > PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) > > I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-) > > > I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all > > software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also > > remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would > > have saved me days. > > ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details. But it is fairly > complete. You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the > manual and study the examples and help files. The helpfiles are very good indeed. But this incompleteness makes learning PureData more like a challenge. As Edsgar W. Dijkstra once said: programmers get their 'kick' from programming not because they know exactly what they're doing, but because they don't know exactly what they're doing. > > I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden > > are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most > > people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. > > Yeah. The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get > away from the mainstream apps :) I'm sorry but sometimes I assume > that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong. I sympathize :) I used Windows and it's apps since '96 and after eight years I come to the conclusion that I don't want to use Windows EVER AGAIN. Another thing is that when you've seen as many mainstream apps as I have (which you probably will) you would agree that it really doesn't matter which app you use or which keyboard shortcuts you are used to. Tjeerd -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 02:01:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30927-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68373 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:01:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 68352 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:01:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:53:17 -0400 From: stephen hastings-king <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-User-Info: 68.163.23.89 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx am teaching a summer source, so some of this is work-related, but anyway: walter benjamin arcades project louis aragon: paris paysan f. pessoa: book of disquiet lysoff and grey, eds., music an technoculture (only some interesting stuff in this...) l. goehr: the imaginary museum of musical works stephen ----------------------------------------------------- http://eo.yifan.net Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 01:34:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30925-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59307 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:35:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 59297 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:35:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:35:06 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: UQs4qNgd0nsUvAJk4cNshQ 1088559306 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Many users/developers posted examples of software already, but it seems like Loris is just a C++ library, and not a complete program. You can't expect the average sounddesigner codes his own software? It's not that I'm unimpressed with Loris or ungrateful for its free release but Loris seems a bridge to far for most users. On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC), "Phil Thomson" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> said: > > e.g. I don't know any > > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > Once, when browsing the internet, I found this: > > http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/ > > P > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 01:05:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30924-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49115 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 49104 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:05:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:05:32 +0200 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: e70bOSn96fknggDlalwRtw 1088557532 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400, "Michal Seta" <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> said: > "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > > > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that, > > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. > > The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building > blocks and they even have a GUI. If there aren't enough it's only > because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good > of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things. Keep in > mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can > always dig in and adapt to your own needs. > > > This > > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce > > efforts. > > Developers or users? users :) I'm used to look at PureData users as developers, because they are also programming. Although those users normally don't code stuff, they do create algorithms. (2nd part of programming) > > > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want. > > I don't think so. In fact Miller has started an effort of porting > some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature > (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things > like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la > Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing. Some of the > components (if not most) were ready to reuse. Blame IRCAM for not > allowing access to such great resource. OTOH, I doubt David Z., the > cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules. Other > people do that. But then, I don't know jack... i might be wrong. > > The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and > some users started providing some goodies. Stay tuned. So it's up to the users (who are also developers :) to create PD exten- tions. That doesn't sound too bad. I'm already glad Miller Puckette made the PureData 'framework' to create extentions for. -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 00:32:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30923-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40200 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:33:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 40190 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:33:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:29:18 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD0838AF.2B80%xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 07:30 PM, Aaron Hull wrote: > Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often > get the > wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which > affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether > you read > a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. > (will > not go to deep here) > to true, but you have to be able to write to read but you don't have to be able to play music to enjoy it. although I am a little bias to 3 minute diddies =) peace, a --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 23:30:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30922-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16207 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:30:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 16194 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:30:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:30:23 +1000 From: Aaron Hull <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0838AF.2B80%xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-MessageID: 6421393.9681 X-EnvelopeFrom: <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> 6421393.9681 X-EnvelopeTo: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> 6421393.9681 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hmm I tend to disagree with your point about books, people can often get the wrong impression and completely miss a subtle point or undertone which affects the way a theme is perceived by the reader. I think whether you read a book or listen to music there are certain levels of understanding. (will not go to deep here) I am not trying to answer your question about a pun though, just being a knit picker in regards to your point about text and music. Also I believe you have to know something about music to enjoy music. Cause if no one new anything about music then why the hell do people have preconceptions about how music should sound. It'd be easier if we didn't have a bias to say 3 minute diddies. By the way this is my 1st post. So I'd just like to say hi. Have been reading intently so far. ----------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:45:18 -0400 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? Message-Id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> true, but that's a blind experiment. what I'm thinking of here is that you have to be experienced in the basic structures of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music? - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > > My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the=20 > surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in=20= > his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a=20 > line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next=20 > person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. > > I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could=20 > write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the=20= > next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a=20= > hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a=20= > thought. > > P --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:39:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30921-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69266 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:40:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 69256 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:40:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Saturn Sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040628, clamav-milter version 0.73d on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Did I miss anyone posting this already? Sounds of radio frequency bursts -- "rotational modulation of radio emmissions [...] generated by charged particles whose motions are controlled by the planetary magnetic field" -- shifted into the audible frequency range. http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/space-audio/cassini/sat-rotation/ xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:31:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30920-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64001 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:31:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 63991 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:31:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:28:03 +0200 From: kspr <xxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-SmartMax-AuthUser: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm reading (at the moment) the soft machine - William Burroughs almost finished reading it, though and afterwards i'll be reading Abattoir - Erwin Neutzsky-Wulff /kasper --Boundary_(ID_5CxRYw9F6gnMmEc9wfp8/A)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:03:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30919-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51534 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:03:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 51523 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:03:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040628, clamav-milter version 0.73d on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > How do you make a pun in music? > > I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse, > it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others' > work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure I agree, my first thought was that the equivalent in music to a pun is more like a literal (or at least discernible) allusion -- the first thing that popped into mind was some bebop solo that quotes a phrase from "surry with the fringe on top," pauses, and then blasts onwards. It was quick but quite obvious. I know I've heard plenty of other less obvious examples too. The second thing that comes to mind, somewhat embarassingly, is my familiarity with how the Grateful Dead would, while jamming, basically "discuss" the next tune to drop in to ~ fans who were deeply familiar with the repetoire could follow the conversation quite clearly, which was often limited to very subtle or fragmentary tropes or rhythms... Not punning in this case, but, well, conversation through a common musical language! aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 21:01:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30918-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49785 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:01:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 49773 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:01:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:01:41 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx figured I should throw in: _White Nile_, Alan Moorhead _The Khartoum Journals of General Charles E. Gordon_ _Odyssey of an American Composer_, Otto Luening _Boulez-Cage Correspondence_, Jean Jacques Nattiez _The Iron Heel_, Jack London --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 17:09:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30917-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34284 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:09:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 34274 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:09:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:09:30 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06F057.822C%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, I find this rather impressive (sh 32): http://www.audiomidi.com/common/cfm/product.cfm?Product_ID=4109# ..of course you'd need a controller , those aren't hard to find. on 6/28/04 8:27 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! > KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:30:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30916-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16517 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:28:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 16505 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:28:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:28:12 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The last few books I read are: Millennium People - J G Ballard Quicksilver - Neal Stephenson Buddhism: Core Ideas - Hsing Yun Brave New World - Aldous Huxley Microsound - Curtis Roads Fremder - Russell Hoban Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami And I'll probably go through my old Brian Aldiss books during the summer if I get stuck for anything to read :) -- homepage: http://alex.bash.sh music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:12:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30915-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3794 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 3784 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:12:45 +0000 From: benoit deuxant <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music X-Originating-IP: [81.241.205.11] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 16:12:45.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9A901E0:01C45DF3] hi there, i'm not sure you'd call it a "pun" but you could check alfred schnittke's music, which is full of quotes, parodies and decontextualisation of bach, beethoven, di lasso, shostakovitch etc... (found this on http://www.greatwar.org.nz/schnittke.htm : "He began writing music in the Serialist style which was the done thing for any Russian composer of that time who wished to be disassociated from state sanctioned "tunes you can whistle" (Thank you Joe Stalin). Around about 1968 he decided to "alight from an already overcrowded train" and began writing in the style that eventually became known as polystylism. He was influenced at this point by Webern and Ives. His first composition in this style was the 2nd Violin Sonata Quasi una Sonata (spot the knowing Beethoven reference) which he described as "a report of the impossibility of the sonata, made in the form of a sonata". This was followed four years later by the 1st Symphony which eviscerates the traditional form of the symphony. He juxtaposes quotations from the "Great Masters" against blasts of free form orchestral noise, incorporates a jazz band, produces moments of stark terror neatly undercut by gross banality and generally destroys the whole notion of the symphony as a form and a cultural practice - the musicians process on to the stage while playing and are followed by the conductor. He has written many works which use Baroque forms and idioms (the concerti grossi for example) but not in any neo-classical sense. These can range from "joke" pieces such as a version of the old Christmas favourite Stille Nacht (Silent Night) which perfectly skewers the Hell that is the season of goodwill through to the Concerto Grosso no. 6 which has qualities of "the wind blowing through the graveyard". " tschuss, benoit >From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music >Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:53:19 -0400 > >On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > How do you make a pun in music? > > Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious > >You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_ >which takes up the issue of musical puns in Bach and Handel... > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Personnalisez MSN Messenger 6 avec votre propre Weemee http://divertissements.fr.msn.be/weemee/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 15:53:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30913-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86768 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:54:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 86757 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:54:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:54:09 -0400 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i just bought a cracklebox and love it. worth checking out if lush melodic washes are NOT what you're looking for...;-) buchla-ish touch sensors, battery-powered and built-in speaker... and loud. here's the link: http://www.steim.org/steim/cracklebox.php best b On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 06:29 PM, Kassen wrote: > >> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs >> and a >> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like >> the >> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the >> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... >> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time >> I am >> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking >> about...anyone >> recommend something? >> thanks in advance! > > perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes > it > very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy > suited > for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. > affordable > too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live > because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart > from > that it sounds like exactly what you want. > > looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. > link for your convenience; > http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html > > confession time; apart from my own experimental work i´m also in a > disco > project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we´ve taken to using a lot > of > small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them > inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on > stage, > can be modified, don´t crash and they enable us to switch to completely > freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning > amount of > bass too...... > > i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. > > Kas. > > p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty > now. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 16:00:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30914-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92795 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:00:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 92785 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:00:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:53:02 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? 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Tue Jun 29 15:20:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30912-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73316 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 73306 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:16:53 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD070025.15C2%xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a >> built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the >> monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the >> Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... >> as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am >> unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone >> recommend something? >> thanks in advance! > > perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it > very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited > for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable > too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live > because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from > that it sounds like exactly what you want. I'll agree with Kassen suggestion of that model which is actually called a CS01. It was a monophonic analog sold by Yamaha in 1982, for $275 or so and can be found used for less these days. Tip : the later roman numeral II units are supposed to have much improved resonance control. Yamaha's analog swan song. The EDP Wasp (UK 1978) has pretty much the above criteria but it's definitely now if it ever wasnt unroadworthy and goes for a collector premium. Very few units meet the criteria - I'll quickly mention some theories, see for yourself from your recollections of other people on tours these days, lots of knobbed USB controllers out there, nothing much that makes a sound aside from vintage casio SK-1s and the occasional circuit bent unit of some sort. Below are a couple partial criteria meeting choices I can think of- I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not a full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to be a real issue unless you still use Win98 or OS9) OK some contemporary stuff - MFB http://www.mfberlin.de/Produkte/Musikelektronik/musikelektronik.html have several very small analog and semi analog synths. They use push buttons instead of keys a la some of the small Rolands used to. I've use their drum machine mounted as a tie clip at several shows. Novation makes several virtual synths inside small keyboards with controllers, the sonic character to me is very plastic but I'm sure if they are used with that in mind music-wise they can be effective. They used to make the BassStation, which was a very small bass oriented synth keyboard with controls. The microkorg is somewhat popular but is pretty fake sounding and knob limited I think mainstream companies have proven with marketing that the inclusion of a built in speaker tips too many in the huge semi-pro market off that the unit in question isn't professional, then adding knobs instead of pushbutton presets makes the unit much more expensive with the additional consideration that the a knobs or sliders only interface is going to make it rough to sell as the unit in the shop won't necessarily be making cool sounds unless it has memories too, which by that time is going to price completely out of any kind of entry or non-pro market. The second factor is no one manufactures analogue keyboard mechanisms and its' something no one can make in their basement. What larger small companies do is buy MIDI keyboard mechanisms off Fatar in Italy, the only company AFAIK that will sell OEM keyboard mechanisms. About half the big companies buy their keyboards off Fatar too, but for a little guy that's big enough to be able to deal with Fatar you can't just spec anything and get it, the options are limited and of an analog synth the MIDI to CV converter hardware to use it for an analog synth adds over well $50. The couple analog keyboards out today as far as I've discovered all have MIDI keyboards and CV converters inside. It's a much simpler proposition for a synth builder to make the owner supply the keys themselves separately. A couple people I can think of might be developing units that meet some of your criteria now but a lot of these factors of meeting the needs of many users tend to push the pricing up or feature set down enough that they no longer become practical. And of course the allure of software, laptop and a knobbed USB controller probably dwindles the market faster than it grows the market for an alternative. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:52:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30911-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59152 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:53:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 59141 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:53:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:53:19 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pun in music In-reply-to: <BD06C83D.20419%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 6/29/04 at 7:18 AM, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > How do you make a pun in music? > Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious You might want to check out Peter Kivy's book, _Sound and Semblance_ which takes up the issue of musical puns in Bach and Handel... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:32:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30910-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49972 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:33:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 49962 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:33:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:32:58 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] structure To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06CBAA.2041C%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure. > Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place. % agreed...while Schoenberg's 'Three Piano Pieces, Opus 11' might not share a note distribution similar to that of words in text anyone who knows AS's works knows that he was a stickler for compositional structure...this means that his dodecaphonic melodic/harmonic content adhered to classic forms of musical structure... also, dodecaphonic WWII code: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa062998.htm > A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not > the notes themselves. I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of > Steven Pope. % or the writings of Schoenberg...check out 'Style and Idea' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:18:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30909-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41750 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:18:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 41740 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:18:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:18:21 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pun in music To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD06C83D.20419%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > How do you make a pun in music? Sr Coconut might be a good example...albeit sorta obvious --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 14:08:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30908-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34173 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:08:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 34163 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:08:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:08:34 +0100 From: David William Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: synth toys In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Remote_Addr: 213.121.212.121 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think this is a good synth toy http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1291 you even get a 84% replica ms-20 with it :) shinjiro yamaguchi writes: > "casio tone" is good, too. > it's very cheap sounds. > > > best > shinjiro > > >>perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it >>very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited >>for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable >>too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live >>because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from >>that it sounds like exactly what you want. >> >>looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. >>link for your convenience; >>http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html >> >>confession time; apart from my own experimental work i.m also in a disco >>project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we.ve taken to using a lot of >>small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them >>inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, >>can be modified, don.t crash and they enable us to switch to completely >>freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of >>bass too...... >> >>i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. >> >>Kas. >> >>p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:59:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30907-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30586 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:00:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 30571 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:00:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:00:00 +0900 From: shinjiro yamaguchi <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] synth toys In-reply-to: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail-inter7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "casio tone" is good, too. it's very cheap sounds. best shinjiro >perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it >very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited >for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable >too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live >because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from >that it sounds like exactly what you want. > >looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. >link for your convenience; >http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html > >confession time; apart from my own experimental work i(I4(Bm also in a disco >project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we(I4(Bve taken to using a lot of >small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them >inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, >can be modified, don(I4(Bt crash and they enable us to switch to completely >freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of >bass too...... > >i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. > >Kas. > >p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:40:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30906-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20507 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:41:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 20495 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:41:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Santiago Calvo <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 29 Jun 2004 13:06:54 -0000 Issue 1204 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "how do you make a pun in music?" Well, I think there are many examples that come close to that. While the audience in general is not very music-literate, they can be culture-literate, and a variety of musical statements of varied complexity can be understood by the general audience. For example, Señor Coconut's re-appropiations of original composition from many sources as salsa/latin music could probably qualify as a musical "joke" that could be understood by most people. The Portsmouth Simphonia's versions of the popular classics too. Moreover, they can be enjoyed at many different levels. But it's true that in pure sound and musicological senses (stripping away the cultural aspects, to the extent that this is possible) it is a lot harder to make such complicated estatements and be widely understood. Regards, Santiago --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. --Boundary_(ID_9OjSDCEJJvCRlJ0m0hepxg)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:28:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30905-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14869 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:28:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 14859 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:28:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] book review: Fractals in Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BOOK REVIEW "Fractals in Music: Introductory Mathematics for Musical Analysis" by Charles Madden The book's title is misleading: little is mentioned about fractals, geometric structures in which large elements mirror smaller elements, and nothing is specifically mentioned about musical works which use fractal-like structures, like John Cage's proportional rhythmic frameworks in the 1940s, or David Clarke Little's computer music in the 1990s. Most of the book is painfully dull, explaining how to use simple statistics (mean, standard deviation, etc.) to analyze melodies of some disparate examples: Xenakis' "Etona" (based on random organization), Schubert, a Gregorian chant, and melodies derived from white noise, brown noise and pink noise. Over half the book is spent picking through these examples, mathematically determining how "random," each piece is, which is a particularly boring thing to work through, and even more particularly useless. Madden never writes about how this information can be used, how this relates to fractals, or how any of this could be applied to music that is not a single voice of chromatic pitches. And in his examples, he doesnít examine a fractal melody to see how "random" that would be, or how random different fractal melodies would be. A middle chapter of the book goes through examples of composers using the Fibonacci number series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11, etc), whose ratios of successive pairs approach the Greek "Golden Ratio" of 0.618. Much of this is spent counting measures to see if there is a significant musical moment at this point in pieces by Varese, Gershwin, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Stockhausen. Varese's "Hyperprism" is one bar off from having a major development at the Golden Mean point! Ultimately, we learn that this is an extremely dull concept to contemplate. And in a piece that lasts 200 measures, what noticeable difference is there if there is a change at measure 123 or 130? The human mind couldn't notice an audible difference between the two. All this said, the first two chapters are worthwhile reading, providing an overview of Chaos Theory (in which fractals play a useful part) and the natural harmonic and equal-temperament tunings. A more interesting piece on the use of fractals in music is Rolf Wallin's "Fractal Music - Red Herring or Promised Land?" written 10 years earlier. http://www.notam02.no/~rolfwa/Fractalarticle.html -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 30 18:35:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30944-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11657 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:36:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 11644 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:36:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:20:39 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys (NM) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c45ddb$e082b560$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD070025.15C2%xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ndkent; > I'm sure you know the Nord Modular keyboard. No speaker of course and not a > full set of knobs. That's something recently discontinued in favor of a > larger unit (that supports current operating systems, something that until > someone successfully completely reverse engineers the old Nord is going to > be a real issue unless you still use Win98 or OS9) I´m not sure about the Mac side of things, but the nord´s OS *should* run fine under XP. In fact I edit mine from my laptop under XP and often have the editor open during live performances with which I mean to say that it´s stable enough that i´d risk my reputation on in. I accidently happen to know one of the nord modular´s aplha testers and i can tell you he uses his own pair of micro modulars from a XP desktop too. The only side effect of running it under XP that i know off is that it remembers it´s midi port setting better if you set the program to run in this "compatibility mode", apart from that you should be fine. I also know that a p90 with a minimal configuration of win98 can handle the Nord´s editor so a pc emulation might be a option for OS X users that want to edit a Nord? Hope that is of some help to somebody..... Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:19:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30904-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10723 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:19:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 10713 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:19:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:19:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: books In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Free Play - Improvisation in Life & Art by Stephen Nachmanovitch How was this? This has sat on my shelf for the past 5? 6? 7? years unread. I am afraid it will be a waste of time for me. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 13:06:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30903-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5250 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 5239 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:06:51 +0000 From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Onda Sonora in Mp3 X-Originating-IP: [82.223.39.204] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 13:06:52.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[F20E3400:01C45DD9] Hola a todos, os informamos que ya se puede escuchar Onda Sonora a través de la web www.ondasonoraradio.com en la seccion escuchar. La página se actualizará semanalmente incluyendo todos los sonidos, junto a la información habitual sobre los contenidos de la semana. It is finally possible listening to Onda Sonora via mp3 through Ondasonoraradio.com, in section listen. The site will be updated weekly with the new session, in addition to the contents section with all the information on the featured artists Best Regards Onda Sonora _________________________________________________________________ Un amor, una aventura, compañía para un viaje. Regístrate gratis en MSN Amor & Amistad. http://match.msn.es/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 12:17:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30902-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90197 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:17:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 90187 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:17:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:53:01 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.06.29 00:45 -0400 ) andrew jones: > How do you make a pun in music? i guess it depends on the know-ts. -- \js . <-~'>}! +}| <| )[.< --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 12:15:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30901-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89055 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:16:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 89043 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:16:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:51:38 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.06.29 01:13 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > I guess you could do this with computer music too. yes- it would make a great project [glich music is about putting things in a new context, and some people here do music by putting field recordings in a different context]. maybe the rules are like this: - get a list of 'players' - create 10 [or 7] seconds of music - take the last second and put it in a different file - remove this last second from the orinal file and 'submit' it - send the 'last second' to the next person on the list - when all the pieces are done, they can be strung together any takers? > One person could write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper > and pass it to the next person. this could be done too, but what about using computer files to hold the binary data? i'd imagine it'd be much more non-linear than the way i suggest above. this is not saying anything about better or worse. -- \js %'~ "_[+_#' =/) \}/-^ \]( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 11:29:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30899-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78883 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:29:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 78873 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:29:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:29:45 +0100 From: "eric.namour" <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [sans.signal] @ london spitz 15.07 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Score: -99.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (please forward if/when appropriate) Hello || [sans.signal] @ the spitz: thursday july 15 | 7pm - late -- [no.signal] (http://nosignal.slab.org) presents, as a prelude to the 2nd edition of the London Placard (http://state51.org/placard), a 'Nuit Française' of musique électronique et expérimentale from guitar-based processes to lo-fi electronica passing through abstract experimental melodies and sound treatments with: || dDamage [planet_mu] || Discom [deco] || heller [n-rec] | Sebastien Roux [12K / apestaartje] || pez orchestra [aka anne_laforet ] || noun alternate music selection by e-di [heller] & e/n [no.signal] all info/bios, reviews/mp3s/photos @ http://nosignal.slab.org tickets | £7 (in adv. @ http://www.wegottickets.com/gig.asp?3394) (special price for members of the [no.signal] list @ http://nosignal.sonomu.net) ||||| Thanks for your precious attention Best e/n -- [no.signal] http://nosignal.slab.org http://nosignal.sonomu.net --Boundary_(ID_WIlwCpRi51qi1l5ZZv8d/w)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 08:07:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30898-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42121 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 42106 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:07:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:46 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00bb01c45db0$2980ca30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > How do you make a pun in music? I'd say by intertextuality. You know all this talk about art as a discourse, it's pretty common (even more so in classical music) to refer to others' work in a piece of music. Often this is done humorously, though I'm not sure if it still could be called a pun. Obviously the references are misse by the majority of listeners, but not by all. Visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:56:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30897-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13649 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:56:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 13634 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:56:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:56:21 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx murray ward wrote: > currently reading: > > Sync by Steven Strogatz > Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent > > Previously: > > The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs > Fictions by Jorge luis Borges > The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads > > Best > Murray > (dj_spleenbaby) Murray; Have you read the non-fictions yet? I've been hooken on it since returning from Macedonia some months ago. Borges' books are almost impossible for me to put down. Best, Rudy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:41:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30895-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8393 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 8382 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:42:55 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT(yet on topic) FOR SALE: Ego-sys Waveterminal U2A usb sound interface PC/MAC X-Originating-IP: 12.4.215.225 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6WvuPyZyLR9PI+PwGvGyqg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: da01c0b8c04c08e3465474834dc8382a40683398e744b8a4058832e271b1d307ee3c4ec9acd9de52a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6WvuPyZyLR9PI+PwGvGyqg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards.. i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to placing it on ebay. always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone make interesting sounds/music... a nice small portable little unit! perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs richard $90 (including shipping in the USA) perfect condition in box with all manuals and cables.. for PC or MAC Waveterminal U2A - Portable, Multi-functional EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio industry. Once again, EGOSYS is one step ahead , introducing the Waveterminal U2A. This versatile USB interface is not only affordable, it is extremly portable (9X9 cm). Its multiple features make the U2A a studio pocketknife for desktop music production. The U2A offers 3 stereo input options (coaxial, optical, and analog) that you can select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a signal converter between coaxial & optical audio. The Analog I/Os of the U2A are supported with ultra-wide range 24-bit AD/DA converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections. The U2A supports 3 multiple sampling rates(32, 44.1, 48K) with a Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter. The U2A is compatible with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well. Specifications. - 16-bit playback & record resolution - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O - 24-bit, high-quality, stereo A/D, D/A converters : 100dB(A/D), 110dB - (D/A) Dynamic Range - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB - -10dBv UnBalanced 1/4" phone jack - Simultaneous audio output through both analog and S/PDIF for easy- - mix monitoring - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring. - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported - Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to configure - connects externally: no computer surgery - Extreme portability(9 X 9cm). - Includes convenient 2-meter USB cable - Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP MME & DirectSound Driver, ASIO 2.0 support. - Macintosh ASIO driver and Sound Manager drivers available. R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . 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Tue Jun 29 05:41:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30896-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9172 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 9161 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:41:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:42:41 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT(yet on topic) FOR SALE: Ego-sys Waveterminal U2A usb sound interface PC/MAC X-Originating-IP: 12.4.215.225 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: da01c0b8c04c08e3465474834dc8382a40683398e744b8a4058832e271b1d3079cb913db364ce8f093caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, sorry for the cross posting.... but for all the talk about sound cards.. i wanted to offer this to other artists/musicians on the list prior to placing it on ebay. always nicer to have it go to a good home and continue helping someone make interesting sounds/music... a nice small portable little unit! perfect for the studio or traveling , live gigs richard $100 (including shipping in the USA) perfect condition in box with all manuals and cables.. for PC or MAC Waveterminal U2A - Portable, Multi-functional EGO SYS is always on the cutting edge of the professional audio industry. Once again, EGOSYS is one step ahead , introducing the Waveterminal U2A. This versatile USB interface is not only affordable, it is extremly portable (9X9 cm). Its multiple features make the U2A a studio pocketknife for desktop music production. The U2A offers 3 stereo input options (coaxial, optical, and analog) that you can select one at a time while the output signal is available on all 3 output formats at the same time. This feature can make the U2A act as a signal converter between coaxial & optical audio. The Analog I/Os of the U2A are supported with ultra-wide range 24-bit AD/DA converters, and unbalanced 1/4" phone jack connections. The U2A supports 3 multiple sampling rates(32, 44.1, 48K) with a Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter. The U2A is compatible with Microsoft Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and Windows XP WDM Drivers supporting MME and DirectSound. It also includes the ASIO 2.0 Driver. Macintosh Apple Sound Manager and Mac ASIO are supported as well. Specifications. - 16-bit playback & record resolution - Gold-tipped S/PDIF Coaxial & Optical digital I/O - 24-bit, high-quality, stereo A/D, D/A converters : 100dB(A/D), 110dB - (D/A) Dynamic Range - Signal to Noise ratio (D/A) : 110dB - -10dBv UnBalanced 1/4" phone jack - Simultaneous audio output through both analog and S/PDIF for easy- - mix monitoring - Internal Digital Mixer for Input Monitoring. - 32, 44.1 and 48K sampling rates supported - Real-time hardware Sample Rate Converter - installation : no "IRQs" or "DMAs" to set, no I/O addresses to configure - connects externally: no computer surgery - Extreme portability(9 X 9cm). - Includes convenient 2-meter USB cable - Microsoft Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP MME & DirectSound Driver, ASIO 2.0 support. - Macintosh ASIO driver and Sound Manager drivers available. R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . William Basinski + Richard Chartier [ Spekk, Japan ] CDROM . 00:dedaih [ Synchron, Switzerland ] CD . Chessmachine ( with Ivan Pavlov/COH) [ Mutek_rec, Canada] >>> LIVE . Los Angeles Museum of Contemporary Art [ LA ] June 24 LIVE . Recombinant Labs Compound [ SF ] June 25, 26 CD . "retrieval#3" on Placodes [ n160. Japan ] Aug CD . Set or Performance [ LINE, US ] Sept CHARTIER ONLINE STORE: http://www.3particles.com/paypal --Boundary_(ID_6MKJzBuMDmpxYJoJAhyr2g)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 05:35:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30894-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5860 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:35:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 5850 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:35:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:35:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Adverbialsensationalist <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jrJJOMvdekvfP+V0m7P6jQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_jrJJOMvdekvfP+V0m7P6jQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit recommend: 1. the intimate machine close encounters with computers and robots (neil frude) 2. the population bomb (dr. paul ehrlich) 3. the metamorphosis (franz kafka) 4. the book (alan watts) 5. conversations w/ god an uncommon dialogue i, ii, iii (neale donald walsch) and of course still treasuring my microsound book. dom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 29 04:54:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30893-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92024 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 92009 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:54:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The most recent film by him has excerpts from Hildegard Westerkamp and won a Palme d'Or at Cannes. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, scott allison wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48 +0000 > From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? > > ok, not a book... > > but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better yet > "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon and > Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might have > been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks Dominico > for showing this one to me. > > Scott Allison > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_lwIeMV8zsQeMknv9GRQG1A)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 04:47:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30892-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87698 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:48:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 87687 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:48:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:45:18 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx true, but that's a blind experiment. what I'm thinking of here is that you have to be experienced in the basic structures of language (i.e. grammar etc.) to read, but you don't have to know dick to enjoy music. Hence an author can play with words knowing his audience will (hopefully get it) while a musician can cleverly blend all sorts of structures behind music and yet if it doesn't make an aesthetic effect, your average listening won't know. How do you make a pun in music? - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > > My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the > surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in > his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a > line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next > person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. > > I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could > write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the > next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a > hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a > thought. > > P > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 >> From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> >> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? >>> "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes >> >> ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. >> on another note, how do you take the cleverness >> of literary games to music? i mean you have to >> know a language to read it, but you don't have >> to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the >> word play and tricks that mark great literature >> seem to be less translatable to music. >> >> - >> A >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:45:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30891-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69585 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 69575 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [141.156.35.75] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2004 03:45:48.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[90E599A0:01C45D8B] ok, not a book... but a really nice movie that one might think of as "microsound" or better yet "lowercase" called "Jerry" by Gus Van Sant, and yes its got Matt Damon and Ben Afflects little brother, at times this movie feels like it might have been directed by Bernhard Gunter, really an excellent film. Thanks Dominico for showing this one to me. Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:26:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30890-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63339 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:27:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 63329 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:27:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:27:01 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] synth toys To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone recommend something? thanks in advance! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 03:03:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30889-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59042 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:03:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 59032 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:03:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:03:36 -0500 From: erik schoster <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx last 5 articles, most online: -dartmouth symposium on the future of computer music - eric lyon, et al. computer music journal -damaged sound - caleb stuart -recursive audio cutting - nick collins -john cage and recording - yasunao tone (very interesting!) leonardo music journal -the death of the author - roland barthes aspen no. 5+6, item 3 (via ubu.com) mostly been doing research lately, so it's been articles articles articles.... though i'm looking forward to sinking my teeth into "atom" by issac asimov, and "america" by jean baudrillard this summer. -erik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:32:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30888-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33898 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 33888 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:33:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:39:04 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002000bd06761228d1@[209.86.112.66]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here's mine: - "A Canticle For Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr. - "Cy Twombly, A Retrospective" - MOMA catalogue, 1994, by Kirk Varnedoe - "The Auditory Culture Reader" edited by Michael Bull + Les Back - "Supercade: A Visual History of the Videogame Age, 1971-1984" by Van Burnham - "House of Bush, House of Saud" by Craig Unger -- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] [ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ] -- OUT NOW. -- on Grain of Sound > "indeterminate topography" : 6 new digital image compositions in the premiere issue of Sonic Scope Quarterly, a visual arts magazine [ http://www.grainofsound.com/gos_v3/news.htm ] -- on Retinascan > Gelidus : A sonic interpretation of extreme cold in six parts [ http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd35.htm ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:13:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30886-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26782 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 26768 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:13:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My composition teacher told me about the experience of playing the surrealist game of "Exquisite Corpses" with several of his friends in his student days. One would take a sheet of music paper and write a line of music plus a note, fold it over, and pass it to the next person who would proceed from the last note of the person before them. I guess you could do this with computer music too. One person could write a line of zeroes and ones on a sheet of paper and pass it to the next person. The last person could unfold the sheet and type it into a hex editor and put a soundfile header on it and burn it to CD. Just a thought. P On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 > From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? > >> >> "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes >> > > ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. > on another note, how do you take the cleverness > of literary games to music? i mean you have to > know a language to read it, but you don't have > to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the > word play and tricks that mark great literature > seem to be less translatable to music. > > - > A > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_u2m94pCVXCASjkiZfWNGfA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:14:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30887-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27753 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:14:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 27742 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:14:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:12:44 +1200 From: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Subject: [microsound] books In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxxx.xx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100513bd06709ad836@[192.168.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Design Noir - the secret life of electronic objects by Anthony Dunne & Fiona Raby Obey the Giant by Rick Poynor Free Play - Improvisation in Life & Art by Stephen Nachmanovitch Len Lye - biography by Roger Horrocks Silence by Christina Feldman -- "I call architecture frozen music" J.W.Goethe --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 01:06:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30885-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22423 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:06:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 22412 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:06:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:08:32 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] off-topic but inspiring To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.michaelmoore.com/_media/images/mikes_log_photos/94.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 00:11:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30884-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5584 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:12:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 5574 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:12:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:12:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] musical language/science writing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg > has less structure. > Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong > place. i agree in the oddness of saying the schoenberg composition has less structure. it seems almost contradictory considering the earlier statements that "All of the pieces showed a text-like distribution, especially for the higher-ranking notes. But the strength of the relationship varied," and in relation to the schoenberg piece and atonal music "This means that the piece does not have a set vocabulary of commonly used words that keep appearing. Instead, the size of the vocabulary increases at about the same rate as the length of the piece; new "words" are constantly introduced, while earlier ones are seldom repeated." the author seems to overgeneralize or contradict both his and zanette's statements with that sentence. first, saying that the structures vary, and then briefly saying that there is less structure. weird. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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It is obvious that using a simplistic criterion like number of occurrences of each note will certainly create "context": common practice in music has that as a consequence by its own very nature, not as a driving force. A simple counter-argument dismisses such a thesis -- grab each of the pieces mentioned and randomize the notes. I doubt our ears would be able to discern said "context"; nevertheless, it would be there according to the analysis. I can't believe they even say that the schoenberg has less structure. Certainly, they were looking for it in the wrong place. A more accurate analysis would need to measure distance between notes, not the notes themselves. I guess they are oblivious of the extensive work of Steven Pope. //P http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:11 PM > To: microsound_list > Subject: [microsound] musical language > > > http://www.nature.com/nsu/040614/040614-11.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 30-06-04 01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE Track: Septuor Album: Canevas Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Notable formacion canadiense en el que participan hasta 18 componentes que han grabado un disco entre el free jazz y la improvisacion a partir de extractos de un total de 15 conciertos del combo entre 1998 y 2004 02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF Track: Yes, Happy Chew Album: The Unexpected One Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Encuentro entre dos guitarristas y dos percusionistas con gran reputacion dentro de la escena de improvisacion libre canadiense, Bernard Falaise y Ron Samworth entre los primeros, y Dylan Van Der Shyff y Pierre Tanguay entre los segundos. El disco oscila entre lo minimal y lo desatado y se puede encontrar tambien a traves del catalogo del sello Ambiances Magnetiques 03. MÉLANIE AUCLAIR Track: 4'8 Album: Puce À l'oreille Label: Ambiances Magnetiques Album de debut de Mélanie Auclair, compositora, cantante y chelista de formacion clasica pero propuesta experimental que se reunio con varios amigos para componer este emotivo Puce À l'oreille 04. JASCH Track: Phenotype Album: Shimmer Label: Doc Recordings Interesante artista suizo interesado en la improvisacion, el jazz y la música electroacústica cuyo excelente nuevo trabajo presenta nuevos elementos en sus composiciones gracias a la introduccion extensiva del ordenador en el proceso de creación 05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF Track: 3 Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY... Label: Sub Rosa Primera de las tres ciudades superpobladas construidas por el pionero sueco Carl Michael Hausswolf para su nuevo disco en Sub Rosa, aunque normalmente publica en Touch, un disco inspirado en el caos de las metrópolis modernas en la linea de formaciones de la era post industrial como The Hafler Trio, con el que ya colaboró en el pasado 06. LUC FERRARI Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002 Album: Les Anecdotiques Label: Sub Rosa Nuevo trabajo de Luc Ferrari, un parisino de espiritu libre que a sus 75 años y despues de una larga histora de actividad musical que le unio a Pierre Schaeffer en su grupo de musica concreta y tambien al grupo de investigaciones musicales alla por los años 60, ha trabajado en los más variados campos como la radio, la composicion contemporanea o la música para cinta 07. SCHURER Track: Palpitant Album Vexations Label: Domizil Particular homenaje de Bernd Schurer a uno de los instrumentos más influyentes en el desarrollo de la música occidental, el piano. Un total de 28 composiciones tituladas conjuntamente Vexations, como la famosa obra de Erik Satie, aunque Schurer introduce en sus poemas sonoros todo tipo de transformaciones de orden digital 08. ZELLE Track: Nw 1 Album: Rjctd::nw Label: Cubicfabric Segundo trabajo del duo italiano Zelle, dos años despues de su debut en el sello Line. Un disco que parte de la música concreta para aproximarse a las nuevas tecnologías de proceso digital 09. HOLKHAM Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose Album: Komatta Saru Label: Expanding Debut de Simon Keep, un diseñador de sonido britanico que se hace llamar Holkham en Expandig Records, un disco que precede lo que será su primer trabajo en Sub Rosa y del que sonaran dos excelentes cortes 10. LULLATONE Track: My Petit Prelude Album: Little Songs About Raindrops Label: Plop Breve corte que abre Little Songs About Raindrops, el nuevo disco de un norteamericano residente en Japon llamado Lullatone. Este nuevo disco ha sido editado en oriente por Plop y aquí en occidente parece que se hará cargo Audiodregs, que ya publicaba el año pasado su Computer Recital 11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN Track: Bulbous Album: Ataxia Label: Synaesthesia Nos trasladamos a Australia para escuchar la colaboracion entre tres musicos de Melbourne, el pianista Anthony Pateras, el percusionista Sean Baxter y el guitarrista David Brown con un disco titulado Ataxia, haciendo referencia a la perdida de coordinacion muscular 12. [SIC] Track: Moray Firth Album: Gorilla Masking Tape Label: Piehead Regreso de la canadiense Yew Morris, aka [Sic], en este caso con otra serie de composiciones introspectivas para un album de corte minimal en un entorno ambient, un disco que edita desde Toronto Piehead Records, en edicion limitada 13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS Track: Cutting School Album: The Romance Is Over Label: Squirrelgirl Música editada por el sello de la canadiense [SIC], Squirrel Girl, la muchacha ardilla, se trata de música creada por ordenador que combina la magia digital del noruego Lasse Marhaug y los collages del canadiense Zev Ashery, un notable homenaje a las orquestaciones pop en clave exploratoria y experimental tras dos años de intercambio de grabaciones a distancia 14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER Track: Night Broadcast Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs) Label: 12k Esta semana nos despedimos con un aclamado artista aleman que casi no necesita presentacion, Frank Bretsschneider, a quien hace poco pudimos ver en Madrid bajo su seudonimo Komet. Este es su regreso en el sello norteamericano 12k, un disco que continua la senda marcada por sus anteriores trabajos en 12k como Rausch, y fuera de 12k para compañias como Mille Plateaux, Bip-hop o Raster-noton, de la cual es miembro fundador English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 30-06-04 01. ENSEMBLE SUPERMUSIQUE Track: Septuor Album: Canevas Label: Ambiances Magnetiques We open this week's session with L'Ensemble Supermusique, a Canadian formation in which 18 components take part. They have recorded an album titled Canevas with diverse extracts from a total of 5 concerts between 1998 and 2004. New release of Ambiances Magnetiques 02. FALAISE, SAMWORTH, TANGUAY, VAN DER SCHYFF Track: Yes, Happy Chew Album: The Unexpected One Label: Ambiances Magnetiques The meeting between 2 guitarrists and 2 percussionists from the Canadian free improvisation scene: Bernard Falaise and Ron Samworth between the first, and Dylan Van Der Schyff and Pierre Tanguay between the second ones. They have titled their new album in Ambiances Magnetiques The Unexpected One 03. MÉLANIE AUCLAIR Track: 4'8 Album: Puce À l'oreille Label: Ambiances Magnetiques The third new cd from Ambiances Magnetiques, debut album for Melanie Auclair, composer, singer and cellist with a classical formation but experimental aims that joined some friends to create this emotive piece 04. JASCH Track: Phenotype Album: Shimmer Label: Doc Recordings After starting in Canada with Ambiances Magnetiques, we return to Europe with a Swiss artist interested in improvisation in jazz and specially electroacoustic, Jasch, whose new work Shimmer -recently released in the dOc label-, presents some new elements owing to the extensive introduction of the computer in the creative process 05. CM VON HAUSSWOLF Track: 3 Album: THREE OVERPOPULATED CITIES BUILT BY... Label: Sub Rosa The sound of the first of the three overpopulated cities built by the Sweddish pioneer Carl-Michael Von Hausswolf for his new album in the Sub Rosa label -though he usually releases in Touch-, a piece inspired in the chaos of modern metropolis. In the line of post-industrial formations such as The Hafler Trio, with who collaborated in the past 06. LUC FERRARI Track: The Red Shoes. l'estaque, France, July 2002 Album: Les Anecdotiques Label: Sub Rosa Luc Ferrari is a free-minded Parisian in his 70s after a long history of musical activity that brought him to Pierre Schaeffer's Music Groupe de Musique Concrete and later to the Groupe de Investigations Musicals in the 60s and finally to a vast creation in diverse directions with an experimental horizon 07. SCHURER Track: Palpitant Album Vexations Label: Domizil Bernd Schurer's particular homage to an instrument with such a great importance in the development of occidental music, the piano. A total of 28 compositions titled jointly Vexations, as the famous work by Erik Satie, though Schurer introduces digital transformations 08. ZELLE Track: Nw 1 Album: Rjctd::nw Label: Cubicfabric The second work of the Italian duo Z_E_L_L_E, two years after their debut in Line. A record that starts in the concrete point to approach the new technologies in digital processing. Released by the active Japanese label CubicFabric, after the Tape remixes we could enjoy last week 09. HOLKHAM Track: The Conversation / Bose Bose Album: Komatta Saru Label: Expanding Debut of the British sound designer Simon Keep in Expanding Records. This record anticipates his first work for Sub Rosa 10. LULLATONE Track: My Petit Prelude Album: Little Songs About Raindrops Label: Plop Lullatone is a North-America currently residing in Japan; his new album is being handed by both Plop and Audio Dregs labels, the second has already released his Computer Recital 11. PATERAS / BAXTER / BROWN Track: Bulbous Album: Ataxia Label: Synaesthesia A label, Synaesthesia, and three musicians from Melbourne, Australia: Anthony Pateras -prepared piano-, Sean Baxter -percussions- and David Brown -prepared guitar-. Ataxia makes reference to the loss of muscular co-ordination 12. [SIC] Track: Moray Firth Album: Gorilla Masking Tape Label: Piehead The return of the Canadian Jen Morris, [sic], in this case with some introspective compositions for a record with a minimal taste in an ambiental environment. Toronto's Piehead Records limited release 13. THE SLEAZY LISTENERS Track: Cutting School Album: The Romance Is Over Label: Squirrelgirl This album comes from Jen Morris' own label Squirrellgirl. Collaboration between Norwegian Lasse Marhaug and Canadian Zev Asher, a tribute to pop orchestrations after two years mailing sounds 14. FRANK BRETSCHNEIDER Track: Night Broadcast Album: Looping I-VI (And Other Assoted Love Songs) Label: 12k An acclaimed German artist that needs almost no presentation, Frank Bretschneider, whom we could see in Madrid not long time ago under his Komet moniker. 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X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:47:03.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4D22810:01C45D61] sorry about the obvious grammer and spelling mistakes but i've had a lot to drink :) >From: "murray ward" <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? >Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:41:10 +0100 > >Hey > >Some really good bok recomendations, butn if anyone HAD! to chose what >would they rocomend, mine would have to be Don Delilo's White Noise, I >don't know why (I'm sure there are better books out there) but it seems to >effect/affect me every time > >Best >Murray > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Jun 28 22:43:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30879-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75983 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:43:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 75969 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:43:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:41:10 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:41:11.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[0316C010:01C45D61] Hey Some really good bok recomendations, butn if anyone HAD! to chose what would they rocomend, mine would have to be Don Delilo's White Noise, I don't know why (I'm sure there are better books out there) but it seems to effect/affect me every time Best Murray _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Jun 28 22:37:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30878-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73053 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 73042 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:38 -0400 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (microsound) Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AOL-IP: 212.30.6.150 X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Riddley Walker - Russel Hoban Sleep Has His House - Anna Kavan Collected Stories - Vladimir Nabokov Back In No Time - The Brion Gysin Reader Surrealism_Desire Unbound -- In my mind is the sound of rudderless ships.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:30:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30877-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68847 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:30:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 68837 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:30:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:30:39 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [81.155.252.161] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 22:30:40.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AE5AA80:01C45D5F] currently reading: Sync by Steven Strogatz Countdown to mathematics by Lynne Graham & David Sargent Previously: The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs Fictions by Jorge luis Borges The Compuiter Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 29 11:30:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30900-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80743 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:31:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 80732 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:31:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:29:51 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] synth toys To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c45d5f$70905540$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD062F92.203E9%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I'm looking for a small analog synth with a keyboard, lots of knobs and a > built-in speaker...battery and/or AC powered is ok...something like the > monophonic SH-101 but smaller...a kit is ok...something like the > Technosaurus Microcon II but with a keyboard would be perfect... > as I've not been following the synth hardware market for a long time I am > unaware of what strange little synth toys might be lurking about...anyone > recommend something? > thanks in advance! perhaps a yamaha cs-1? it uses sliders instead of knobs but that makes it very small and sturdy. can be batery powered, has a speaker, idealy suited for touring. best of all; it will do both noizes and synth lines. affordable too. in my experience it needs a compressor or a limiter when used live because tweaking the settings can cause huge volume changes but apart from that it sounds like exactly what you want. looks good next to a casio sk-1 too. link for your convenience; http://www.synthmuseum.com/yamaha/yamcs101.html confession time; apart from my own experimental work i´m also in a disco project called "bangkok impact" (*ducks*). we´ve taken to using a lot of small and toy keyboards on stage because you can throw a lot of them inbetween your clothes in your suitcase, they take up little room on stage, can be modified, don´t crash and they enable us to switch to completely freestyle jamming at any moment. some of them produce a frightning amount of bass too...... i wholeheartedly recomend the practice to everybody. Kas. p.s. sorry about mentioning disco on the microsound list, i feel dirty now. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:22:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30876-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65513 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:22:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 65502 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:22:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:38 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes > ahh Flaubert's Parrot. that's a good one. on another note, how do you take the cleverness of literary games to music? i mean you have to know a language to read it, but you don't have to know music to listen to it, hence a lot of the word play and tricks that mark great literature seem to be less translatable to music. - A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 21:54:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30874-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55335 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:54:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 55323 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:54:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Ronsen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: summer book lists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "AO Barnabooth: His Diary" by Valery Larbaud "Fractal Music" by Charles Madden "Flaubert’s Parrot" by Julian Barnes "The Philosopher’s Stone" by Colin Wilson "Pierre Boulez" by Dominiqu Jameux, trans by Susan Bradshaw The Madden book was particularly useless for any practical purposes. I have a review on my other computer if anyone is interested. Maybe I will just post it tomorrow. When I think of fractal music, I usually think of starting out with fractal melodies, i.e. notes. I have not considered starting out from smaller parts. -Josh Ronsen http://home.flash.net/~jronsen in Austin, Texas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 22:08:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30875-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60179 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:09:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 60168 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:09:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:50:34 -0400 From: kerem <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <BLEGIILGBIJNNJGODFMKAEEBDCAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-uakron_edu-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-uakron_edu-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-uakron_edu-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 7) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 1- Dhalgren - Samuel R. Delany 2- Ark - Howard Johnson 3- Illustrated Man - Ray Bradbury 4- On the Road - Jack Kerouac 5- The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman - Angela Carter 6- The Golem - Gustav Meyrink Kerem --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 21:06:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30873-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35894 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:07:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 35884 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:07:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:16:54 +0200 From: Johan Kuypers <xxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Nature To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008e01c45d55$3cf06f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.26.0.3; VDF: 6.26.0.8; host: confetix.sdv.fr) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Artists who link nature with electronics/micro/art/performance, and interested to perform at a picnic on August 29, somewhere in Belgium, please revert back off-list. //Johan --Boundary_(ID_NPV8zeKuJ0TREri1KHVqbw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 20:57:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30872-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31937 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:57:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 31927 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:57:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:57:45 -0400 From: Michael Greenwood <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anger-Bill Landis Sleazoid Express-Bill Landis The Encyclopaedia of Murder-Colin Wilson The Ghastly One-Jimmy McDonough Cronenberg on Cronenberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 20:34:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30871-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20775 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:34:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 20758 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:34:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:33:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Performance/presentation opportunities? X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, I am looking for some opportunities to perform/present my work, particularly abroad (I live in Vancouver, Canada). I make beatless experimental digital audio, lately incorporating soundscape recordings in with purely digital sound. I'm doing my Master's in Fine Arts at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, and I've performed at NWEAMO in Oregon, Vancouver for Vancouver New Music's Dangerous Currents Festival and Signal and Noise. You can hear samples of my work @a< www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/> If anyone here is a curator or knows of a good place to submit such work, please contact me *off-list*, unless you think the info would be useful to others on the list. Thanks in advance for any info. P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 19:02:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30870-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74912 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:03:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 74901 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:03:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:00:34 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-imss-version: 2.5 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:97.29937 C:22 M:2 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:3 C:2 M:2 S:2 R:2 (0.5000 1.0000) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - Prince of Puke - John Waters - Baby Cat Face - Barry Gifford - El Idiota Moral - Norbert Bilbeny - La nueva Carne - Antonio José Navarro - Cynismes Portrait du Philosophe en Chien - Michel Onfray JUANJOSERIVASZUÑIGA [Radical Technology] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 18:28:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30869-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53520 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 53508 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:28:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:10:43 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] musical language To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05AD33.203AE%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.nature.com/nsu/040614/040614-11.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:40:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30868-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28232 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:40:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 28176 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:40:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:37:26 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: FW: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <009f01c45d34$6e2d1f70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that Steve Erickson novel Days Between Stations Woody Allen - Getting Even (one of the better pieces of literature ever actually) Some Giorgio Agamben book I checked out from the library started reading and had to return before I could get even 100 pages in. You'd think they'd have a special rate for philosophy books, less than 2 weeks just doesn't work. The Delueze Guitari essay on Kafka which ironically I still have. - A On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 01:22 PM, Ryan Whitehead wrote: > Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman > Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig > Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton > The Middle East: Bernard Lewis > Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews > The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley > > Ryan Whitehead > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:21 AM > To: microsound_list > Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the > Markson > tip! > > - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio > - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland > - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson > - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy > - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo > - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > _____ > > > k i m _ c a s c o n e > a n e c h o i c > xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx > current location: San Francisco > iPod: assorted medieval music > reading: 'The Golden Ratio' - Mario Livio > watching: -- > weather: sunny, foggy, cool > > US cell: +1 415 215 5975 > > EU mobile: +32 472 505 273 > > 'It was a complex mathematical shape, > turned into some kind of melody. > Waveforms. A slow, quiet pulse along the spectrum.' > - Jeff Noon - 'Falling Out of Cars' > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:23:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30867-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18624 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 18613 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:22:02 -0500 From: Ryan Whitehead <xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: FW: [microsound] summer book lists? To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009f01c45d34$6e2d1f70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Law in America - A Short History: Lawrence Friedman Future of Ideas: Lawrence Lessig Anatomy of Melancholy: Robert Burton The Middle East: Bernard Lewis Catalan Cuisine: Coleman Andrews The Red Queen - Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature: Matt Ridley Ryan Whitehead -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:21 AM To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson tip! - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____ k i m _ c a s c o n e a n e c h o i c xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx current location: San Francisco iPod: assorted medieval music reading: 'The Golden Ratio' - Mario Livio watching: -- weather: sunny, foggy, cool US cell: +1 415 215 5975 EU mobile: +32 472 505 273 'It was a complex mathematical shape, turned into some kind of melody. Waveforms. A slow, quiet pulse along the spectrum.' - Jeff Noon - 'Falling Out of Cars' --Boundary_(ID_dbP24ZW9Lm5O1IwxvoTWmw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 17:15:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30866-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14282 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:15:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 14272 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:15:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: [67.65.9.101] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpA4FI8AAwNMgEAAAAB,ce240c17788d74fd1d68e9537c4c8d65 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - "Philosophy and Freedom: Derrida, Rorty, Habermas, Foucault" by John McCumber - "The Conscious Universe: Part and Whole in Modern Physical Theory" by Menas Kafatos and Robert Nadeau - "Wen Tzu: Understanding The Mysteries" attributed to Lao Tzu, translated by Thomas Cleary - "Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and The Occult" edited by Richard Metzger - "Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, + Mysticism in the age of information" by Erik Davis http://www.soundclick.com/spagirus --- "Burton Thomas" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > Here are mine: The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979 "Construction" John Rajchman "The Deleuze Connections" John Rajchman "Buddhism Without Beliefs" Stephen Batchelor "City of God" E.L. 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Mon Jun 28 16:05:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30865-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84035 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:05:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 84024 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:05:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:05:34 -0500 From: Burton Thomas <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? X-Originating-IP: 139.127.146.36 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.182) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 28 Jun 2004 16:04:18 -0000 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > Here are mine: The Paris Review #75, Spring 1979 "Construction" John Rajchman "The Deleuze Connections" John Rajchman "Buddhism Without Beliefs" Stephen Batchelor "City of God" E.L. 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Mon Jun 28 14:24:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30864-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55523 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 55513 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:24:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeremy Cramption - The Political Mapping of Cyberspace Charlie Gere - Digital Culture Manuel De Landa - War in the Age of Intelligent Machines Geert Lovink, ed. - Uncanny Networks: Conversations with the Virtual Intelligentsia Gary Shapiro - Alcyone ( a book on Nietsche, the gift, noise and women ) On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marco Messina wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:53:45 +0200 > From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> > Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? > > that' s mine... > > -Condominium- J. G. Ballard > -Power Politics- Arundhati Roy > -Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm > -Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling > -The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller > -Trilogy- Agota Kristof > > > marco messina > [] [] [] [] [] [] > http://www.mousikelab.com/ > http://www.novenove.it/ > http://www.folderstudio.com/ > [] [] [] [] [] [] > > > > > >> hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from >> microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be >> anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson >> tip! >> >> - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio >> - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland >> - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson >> - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy >> - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo >> - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_fZcpjwoOR6oeX20zRk26GA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:44:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30863-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46378 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:44:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 46367 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:44:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:53:45 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05EF89.9290%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that' s mine... -Condominium- J. G. Ballard -Power Politics- Arundhati Roy -Primitive Rebels: Studies in Archaic Forms of Social Movement- E. Hobsbawm -Tomorrow Now- B. Sterling -The air-conditioned nigthmare- Henry Miller -Trilogy- Agota Kristof marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from > microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be > anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson > tip! > > - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio > - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland > - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson > - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy > - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo > - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:33:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30862-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43112 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:34:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 43100 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:34:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:33:20 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] summer book lists? In-reply-to: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx can't resist stuff like this. no music books really. funny that. "The Hilbert Challenge" - Jeremy J Gray (OUP, 2000) "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory" - Stephen J. Gould (Harvard, 2002) "Longitude" - Dava Sobel (Harper, 1998) "Non-Places: The Anthroplogy of Supermodernity" - Marc Auge (Verso, 1997) "Media Manifestos" - Regis Debray (Verso, 1996) David (Brighton, UK) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 13:20:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30861-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39867 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:20:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 39856 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:20:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:20:31 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] summer book lists? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD05692F.20386%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, I'm asking once again for a 'last five or so books read' list from microsounders...they don't have to be 'sound art' related and can be anything at all...here's mine to start and thanks to Joshua for the Markson tip! - The Golden Ratio - Mario Livio - Hey, Nostradamus - Douglas Coupland - Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson - Music of the Primes - Marcus du Sautoy - Cosmopolis - Don Delillo - Vernon Little God - DBC Pierre --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Projects is now online! For your viewing and listening pleasure. We're happy! Go and click on that PROJECTS link, now! Zèppelin Festival de Arte Sonoro, CCCB Barrera de Concreto was presented as part of this sound art festival in Barcelona, Spain. Images of the festival available @ NEWS Yituey interview, Loop.cl, Chile Our latest release: CORNUCOPIA "diámetros" CD [plelo002] Come visit! And don't forget to say hi to our punk rocker on our main page! Greets to you all, Paralelo 18 http://www.paralelo18.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Jun 28 09:46:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30858-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98189 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:46:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 98179 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:46:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:46:53 -0400 (EDT) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] gig search: BROKEN SLEEP europe august-october To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BROKEN SLEEP dark ambient/noise glitchcomassault looking for european gigs mid/late-august to mid-october...this will be a laptop-based tour (perhaps w. some external/kinetic input) unlike my effects pedal-based sets that i played in paris, strasbourg, and leipzig last year (as "clone") ("clone" and "monotonaut") mp3 links: http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ...including a couple phillip glass remixes: http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-sulch-01.mp3 http://freewebs.com/brokensleep/brokensleep-fd-03.mp3 contact: monotonaut at yahoo dot ca ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 09:17:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30857-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60285 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:18:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 60275 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:18:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:17:56 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LA sound event - steve roden, j.frede, samon takahashi, bob bellerue and more To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <04ef01c45cf0$cd299f60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (pick of the week for the LA WEEkly) 18th Street Art CENTER HOSTS : freeears A micro festival of today's sounds (curated by Samon Takahashi) Monday, 28th of June, 2004 Concerts at HIGHWAYS PERFORMANCE SPACE http://www.highwaysperformance.org/ 1651 18th Street ( north of Olympic bldv ) Santa Monica, CA 90404 Reservation : 310 315 1459 GEORG NUSSBAUMER [at], BOB BELLERUE [us], PETER KOLOVOS [us] / SAMON TAKAHASHI [fr], JOHN WIESE [us] >From 8.30 pm ticket : 10$ + Sound installations and video at 18th STREET 1629 BLDG 1629 18th Street ( north of Olympic blvd ) Santa Monica, CA 90404 J.FREDE [us], JEFF CAIN [us], STEVE RODEN [us], MIRIAM BAJTALA [at], ERIK VESTVILLE [us] >From 7.00 pm ticket : free Freeears would like to thank the 18th Street Art Center, the Association Française d'Action Artistique (AFAA), the French Consulate in Los Angeles, and the Institut für Kulturförderung des Landes Oberösterreich --Boundary_(ID_cEJz68xINDZFZPcFA6oTJw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 09:16:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30856-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 05:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59315 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:16:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 59305 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:16:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:16:35 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] j.frede/scanner CD out now! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <04dc01c45cf0$9cc0bd40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit on sale now! Artists: j.frede / Scanner Title: "j.frede rewrites scanner's diary" CD Label: current recordings Catalog number: current.002 www.current-recordings.com In 2000 UK based artist Scanner released a cd titled DIARY on Sulpher Records to accompany a tour he was doing directly related to his diaries. Robin Rimbaud (aka.scanner) has keep a diary since 1976, never missing a single day regardless of his location in the world or the hour of day he was able to do so. The tour in 2000 he incorporated some of these very personal entries into public performances. The Diary CD was a collection of live recordings. In 2001 Robin gave me a copy of the Diary cd while i was visiting him in London, and explained the tour and intention of the tour. I was very intrigued by the personal aspect of him sharing passages from his diaries, electronic music is one of the more impersonal forms of music, often seen as cold due to the synthetic sounds and processes used in creating it. In 2003, Robin and myself were discussing working together, and i suggested this project, and since we both share a sense of humor the titled seemed fitting and funny. j.frede began taking apart his live recordings from the CD, taking care to not mix the sources from track to track, out of my own neurotic conceptual nature, and create new tracks or in this instance "pages" from the recordings. The finished piece is a full length album that explores the textures and sounds created by Scanner, arranged in new compositions. all of the sounds and samples on the rewrite cd are taken from the original CD. the packaging is silk-screened digipaks, with full color inserts. limited to 500 copies CD liner notes: May 28 2004 22.48 A diary is a means of recording our history, moments that are lost each and every day, our passions and ideas, our frustrations and inspirations, people we've seen, places we've visited. I have kept a diary since I was twelve years old, never missing a day since 1976. No matter where I am nor at what hour, I still record each day with a fine black fountain pen. In 2000 I released a series of live recordings, 'Diary,' on CD (Sulphur Records) to accompany a UK tour where I incorporated some of these very personal entries into public performances. Much of my work experiments with diverse media in order to search out, find, reveal, process, distort and re-present elements of our environment, to make the ordinary extraordinary. July 23 2004 21:50 I dreamt that the artist J.Frede had rewritten my diary in sound. He had created a delightfully impressive re-interpretation of the original Diary CD, transforming and expanding the music into a sonic reflection of cloudy elegance. When I woke up I wished it were true. Robin Rimbaud Related weblinks: www.current-recordings.com www.jfrede.com www.scannerdot.com Publicist: Lynn Hasty, Green Galactic xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx www.greengalactic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bio.scanner Battersea-based ambient composer Robin Rimbaud, aka Scanner, takes his curious pseudonym from his compositional tool of choice; the cellphone scanner. Although only recording and releasing music since the early '90s, Rimbaud has already earned a reputation as a boundary pushing experimentalist, wedding scanned vocal samples with sparse electronics and other textural elements that underscore the degree of strain and isolation often associated with modern telecommunications technology. Though working increasingly toward other, more musical compositional devices, his first several releases went heavy on the lifted convo, attracting as often the comment of postgrad pocket theorists interested in the critical implications of Rimbaud's work as the music critics. Although admitting to a certain voyeuristic fixation even in his childhood, Rimbaud's began exploring it through music only recently, acquiring a police scanner from the Brixton Hunt and Saboteurs group (a sort of wargames/survivalist collective) at a surprising discount. He's since recorded a number of albums and completed remixes for Oval, Scorn, and others. Thought not as varied or complex in his approach as some of his peers in the European electronic music avant-garde, Rimbaud's probing experimentalism and developing focus has won him high praise among the more cerebral of the emusic set, resulting in a number of commissioned performance and composition opportunities that have brought him in contact with the likes of David Shea, Bill Laswell, Oval's Markus Popp, and Karlheinz Stockhausen (the latter of which Rimbaud counts among his admirers). He also worked on the score for the film The Garden Is Full of Metal, about late film director Derek Jarman. In 2001 Scanner returned with the album Wave of Light by Wave of Light, using the name Scannerfunk.~ Sean Cooper, All Music Guide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- j.frede | biographical information (b.1975) Originating from New Mexico, j.frede works as a composer, sound designer and installation artist. Frede has been residing in Los Angeles since 2002, previously living and working out of Colorado from 1996-2001. Traveling abroad consistently since 1998, his work has been presented throughout Europe as well as here in the United States. In 2003 "Blip: the glitch electronica standard reference" loops for acid CDROM was released by Sonic Foundry / SONY. Blip contains over 700 copyright free sounds for composers to use in their music and is part of the extensive "loops for acid" series. Frede created this library along with C. Archuleta and is scheduled to release a second volume in 2004. When performing live, j.frede utilizes a variety of PC based software to write compositions in real time using found sounds and digital manipulations. His installation work is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is presented with documentation of the project. The Curatorial work of j.frede includes several events at The Boulder Museum of Contemporary Art as well as The Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Frede also founded the Denver Atonal Festival that ran for 5 consecutive years and presented over 50 artists. He also owned and operated the Chernobyl Tone Gallery in Denver, Colorado from 1999-2000 showcasing countless touring acts from the United States, Europe and Japan. Chernobyl was dedicated to sound art and a direct relation between visual art and music. A number of infamous performance art pieces were presented during its existence including the "bomb" performance and "vegetarianism" which was reminiscent of the 1960's actionist movement. In 2000 he curated the audio portion of the Telluride International Experimental Cinema Exposition, which provided a continuous flow of sound and music throughout the festival. The most recent event Frede co-produced, along side Green Galactic & ACF/LA, was the west coast launch party for e|i magazine. It featured live performances by Steve Roden, Akira Rabelias, Kit Clayton, Sue Costabile as well as Frede himself. j.frede | artistic overview As a composer, j.frede collects sonic atmospheres of both organic and manmade origin that are natural occurring in regards to the sound's source. Seeking out sounds that could be mistaken for synthetic or electronically created, frede arranges them into composition form and presents the work in both live performances and in the form of sound installations. In the past, frede has created computer or synthesizer based works but primarily works with field recordings. Live, j.frede utilizes a variety of software to create sound banks with real-time control to create soundscapes that range from quiet and minimal to dense surround sound performances. Frede also works with acoustics from both instruments and objects to create subtle compositions. One example would be the "Quiet series" performance in which an Indian banjo was used in a non-traditional manner to create near silent sounds using the keys of the instrument and the resonating strings. The sound was slowly brought into the laptop and mixed subtlety into the sound system. Another other example is the "glass music" performance j.frede presented at the Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Using various sizes and shapes of water filled wine glasses j.frede and Marleah Tobin performed a drone based work using the resonating sounds of the glasses to create a think sonic environment. The duo was followed by a surround sound piece created by 6 performers and 27 wine glasses. The installation work of j.frede is designed to create subtle listening environments in galleries and performance spaces. Each installation follows a conceptual basis and is achieved using multiple cd players, multiple small speakers, and compositions specific to the installation. The most recent installation, Selected Phonographies, was featured at the Soundvision Gallery in Portland Oregon in May 2003. The installation consisted of 24,1 inch speakers divided into 3 stereo channels. The speakers where hanging from the ceiling of the gallery space at various lengths. The sound for the installation consisted of binaural field recordings from the United States and Europe and was arranged to enhance the binaural properties and to create new spatial properties for the visitors to experience. This piece was sold and is now installed in a private residence in Corvallis, Oregon. Some of the pending projects include a documentation of the American west titled American Gothic. Working with photographer Marleah Tobin, American Gothic will explore the ruins of rural America, taking photographs and recordings of rather insignificant abandoned structures to showcase the beauty of these long since forgotten locations. The other major project that Frede is currently perusing is a process of turning architecture into musical scores or notation. Using a combination of the visual lines and corners and the topographical data of the building itself, Frede will create notation using the vertical, horizontal and depth data. There are plans to present a finished work of this technique by the end of 2004. --Boundary_(ID_ZQ+rLIgg90zlnh2XRB0cZw)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 28 01:04:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30855-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69119 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:05:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 69109 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:05:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:05:50 -0700 From: Joshua Maremont <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.boxmanstudies.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <f05111b05bd051dbdcef4@[63.198.190.202]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 9:07 PM -0700 6/25/04, lim wrote: >before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of >or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the >us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover >any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really >afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. 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Mon Jun 28 00:37:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30854-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64055 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:38:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 64044 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:38:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 01:37:48 +0100 From: ".diogoval=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=rio" <x@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery In-reply-to: <000501c45b75$b44182f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0526EC.852%x@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2004 00:38:01.0080 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A846F80:01C45CA8] --Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ____ ______________________________________________________ [!] About a month ago while using file vault on OS X (10.3.3), witch I hardly suggest not to use, after a system crash I¹ve lost all data on my computer !?. After a restart I only had access to ³user.sparceimage² file with 30 Gb (all data in this user). Once that the file vault encrypts the ³user² folder, including all pref.s and application support folder, etc. The only way to recover the encrypted data was using DataRescueX . In this case worked perfectly...and You can always try the demo for free in order to know if it solves your problem or not... Cheers. ..d ______________________________________________________ On 6/26/04 13:04, "Joakim Lindén" <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Have you tried the software recovery solutions? > > "Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right > now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and > partly overwritten drive... > > To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY > expensive and time consuming. > > > I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lim" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:07 AM > Subject: [microsound] [ot] data recovery > > >> > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows > of >> > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the >> > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover >> > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really >> > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. >> > >> > thanks a bunch for your time, >> > lim;. >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_kqPE3aGdcZPPcm67jtZC7A)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 17:52:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30853-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72373 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72363 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:52:14 +0000 From: "Sin: Ned" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound in Hong Kong? X-Originating-IP: [203.218.185.246] X-Sender: xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2004 17:52:15.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B4485B0:01C45C6F] >Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if >anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or >experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or >venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path >recommendation would be appreciated as well. Monitor Records is the best alternative record shop in HK, with the largest collection of CD ranging from HK independent music, Dark Wave, Electronica, Avant-Garde, Experimental, Post-Rock, Japanese Psych-Rock...etc. Unit 5, G/F, Block A, Fortune Terrace, 4-16 Tak Shing Street, Jordan, Kowloon Tel: 2782 3562 There are no specific venues in HK dedicated for microsound/experimental music performance. When exactly are you coming? I can check and let you know if anything interesting is going to happen during your time of visit. Below are some links you might want to take a look: http://www.zuni.org.hk/ http://www.hkfringe.com.hk/ http://www.para-site.org.hk/ http://www.oneaspace.org.hk/ deN:niS http://www.maitreyana.com _________________________________________________________________ Get 10Mb extra storage for MSN Hotmail. 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Sun Jun 27 16:41:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30852-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58015 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:41:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 58005 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:41:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:41:56 -0400 From: Yatra Galaxy <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005e01c45c65$a89732b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8i26aqKDvzz2cO8/ugzAvQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_8i26aqKDvzz2cO8/ugzAvQ) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great Japanese Psych bands at the Empty Bottle Aug 5 I am making the trip for that ----- Original Message ----- From: jake elliott To: microsound ; xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? fuck, sorry; that was just supposed to go to albert. --- jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey, al; > > how are you? what are you doing in chicago in > august? > if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. > > we should definitely meet up while you're here. > what > are the dates of your visit? > > let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my > friends who host performances around here. > > best; > jake; > > --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > > the month of August? Also, > > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > > galleries that would be nice > > too. And, I'm always available for any > > performances;-) > > > > best, > > omnid > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! 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Sun Jun 27 08:42:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30851-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77649 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:42:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 77639 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:42:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:59:03 +0000 From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? In-reply-to: <BD02FB24.2024A%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:71925b1d09fec6f868aea9cb75dd0fbe X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wow. maybe - if water is short - we could wash our cloths with sound... On 26 Jun 2004 at 10:06, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 07:16:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30850-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62511 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 62498 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:17:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:16:58 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx fuck, sorry; that was just supposed to go to albert. --- jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey, al; > > how are you? what are you doing in chicago in > august? > if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. > > we should definitely meet up while you're here. > what > are the dates of your visit? > > let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my > friends who host performances around here. > > best; > jake; > > --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > > the month of August? Also, > > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > > galleries that would be nice > > too. And, I'm always available for any > > performances;-) > > > > best, > > omnid > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 07:15:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30849-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61553 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:15:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 61542 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:15:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Chicago/August? In-reply-to: <BD039BD6.651B%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey, al; how are you? what are you doing in chicago in august? if you need a place to stay, i'm happy to offer. we should definitely meet up while you're here. what are the dates of your visit? let me know your dates and i'll get in touch with my friends who host performances around here. best; jake; --- Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for > the month of August? Also, > If anyone can recommend any record stores or > galleries that would be nice > too. And, I'm always available for any > performances;-) > > best, > omnid > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 27 05:12:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30848-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41359 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:12:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 41349 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:12:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:12:27 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Simon Hampson wrote: >Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals >failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't >be microsound anymore :) > >Simon. > >Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms >Sunday nights, 12am - 2am >102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au >Melbourne, Australia > >xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] >Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 3:06 AM >To: microsound_list >Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > > >http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > Perhaps we should then release the first mega macrosound record, then ; ) ? 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Sun Jun 27 01:28:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30847-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3539 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:29:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:29:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:28:38 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [test] please ignore To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sure hope this is the last... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:24:55 -0400 From: Kurt Ralske <xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF5DE87.210A3%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy > building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really > prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling > together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I > disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had > one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but > no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I > build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change > on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my > own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons. I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster to finish art. I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel the time + effort would be better spent on art-making. I don't mind the left-brain effort of building a tool if it's transparent enough for me to enjoy it thoroughly in right-brain mode. It should be totally intuitive at playtime. In the words of one of America's greatest poets: "I wanna get up + do my thing, I wanna get into it, man, you know...like a, like a sex machine, man...movin', doin' it, you know. Can I count it off? One two three four" Kurt From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:29:22 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Kurt Ralske wrote: > > I agree, and work in the same way, by programming my own tools. But I do > think the opposite view is totally valid: tools that have a lot of > funtionality out-of-the-box and a good interface, make it easier and faster > to finish art. > > I understand the need for personalized tools. Like many people, I feel that > my ideas are not possible with off-the-shelf tools. But I also sort-of > resent the time + effort required to make these tools, and sometimes feel > the time + effort would be better spent on art-making. Having that in mind and mentioning Kyma as Tjeerd did is a bit odd for me, maybe there is a wrong idea of it flying around... Kyma can be regarded as a PD or Max/MSP in Hardware. All have a lot examples but you have to create a lot on you own too, that is the feature of the 3 systems. And can meanwhile Kyma be patched in realtime while running like PD and Max or does it still need to be compiled first and then listen/tweaked??? Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:20:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. Once, when browsing the internet, I found this: http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/ P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:19:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many >> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any >> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also >> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > - Csound > > does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post? > - Pure-Data Ditto. P ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:49:52 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Phil Thomson wrote: >>> what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many >>> advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any >>> linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also >>> very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. >> >> >> - Csound >> >> does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms > > > How? Do you have some orc's and/or sco's you could post? There are lot of ways to do this in Csound, one would be the usage of phasevocoders and the opcode (module) pvinterp: nchnls = 1 instr 1 ktime1 line 0, p3, 1 ; index A (playposition), change this to reflect the correct lengths ktime2 line 0, p3, 1 ; index B kinterp line 0,p3,1 ; morph index pvbufread ktime1, "A.pvc" apv pvinterp ktime2,1,"B2.pvc",1,1,1,1, kinterp,kinterp ; pvinterp index 2 file, f scale, filename, ; fscale 1 file, fscale 2 file, ; amp scale 1 , amp scale 2 ; freq morph factor, amp morph factor out apv endin don't forget you need to pvoc analyse your input to get the .pvc files and a score file with the right length, which influences p3. Other opcode doing simular but different artefacts: lpinterp for LPC resynthesis. > >> - Pure-Data got less modules, maybe because its decades younger then csound, but the key is fft again, once something is fft'ed you can do a lot with it. For instance convolution, a kind of crosssynthesis, is just done by multiplying fft spectra. So how about crossfade the convolutionspectra between to sounds and multiply it with another fft'ed sound. have fun, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:33:20 -0400 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <x.x.x.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT =================================================== Electromagnetic News & Views -- #118 =================================================== [...] Universe started with hiss, not bang // audio file of the first million years... <http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99995092> 'The variations in the cosmic background radiation expose the relative clumpiness of the early cosmos at a variety of different scales. These density variations began as quantum fluctuations in the moments after the big bang, and then propagated out as sonic waves. The denser regions became the seeds of galaxies and stars, which is why astronomers are so interested in them.' .. 'Translating the observed frequency spectrum directly to sound yields tones far too low for ears to hear - some 50 octaves below middle A - but transpose the score up all those octaves and you can listen to it.' [...] =================================================== * to subscribe to the electronetwork-list, send an e-mail to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx with the following command in the body of the message: subscribe electronetwork-l * to unsubscribe: unsubscribe electronetwork-l * for more info contact human @ electronetwork.org --------------------------------------------------- please forward to your friends and colleagues --------------------------------------------------- the electromagnetic internetwork-list electromagnetism / infrastructure / civilization archives.openflows.org/electronetwork-l http://www.electronetwork.org/list/ From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:06:26 -0400 From: Patrick Norris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT More of a rumble than a hiss (below .0000000003 hz!)....a rumble considerably lower than the "brown noise" (rumored to be approx. 12hz) I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense... pats _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:31:13 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fwd: Universe started with hiss, not bang To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303bcf67a35612d@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >I guess it's still a bang in the max/msp sense... -Probably more of a whimper... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:34:03 -0700 From: cjw <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: microsound in Hong Kong? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path recommendation would be appreciated as well. Thanks - c +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ http://www.acidplanet.com/itHz http://www.acidplanet.com/neem http://www.employees.org/~cjw +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:33:28 +1000 From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound in Hong Kong? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i remember asking the same questions a little while ago. as far as i remember, there is a record store on the kowloon side (i think it's in mong kok) called zoo records, which is in a shopping mall down the bottom in some tiny space... probably the best records i managed to find in hong kong. experimental music and post-rock fare as well... however, not much different to what you'd probably find back home. there's also another store in kowloon, the name of which i can't remember right now... it's pretty great and stocks a bunch of local experimental/interesting releases, as well as having the biggest stocked collection of muslimgauze i'd ever seen in one place. as for bands, they tend to float past very sporadically (mostly expat business jerks putting on very sparse little shows)... i met some great kids who made cool stuff on their computers, but hey, who knows where the rest are? good luck, jon. ii / scissors for sparrow / fibonacci users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw > Hello, I'll be going to Hong Kong this summer and I'm wondering if > anyone has any recommendation on where to have a microsound or > experimental music experience while I'm there. Any record shops or > venues that would be good to check out? Any other off the beaten path > recommendation would be appreciated as well. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:09:58 +0300 From: sarah-michelle geller <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: ezra hoffman To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT does anyone know where i can get more information about ezara hoffman and hoffman's software which is in-between sound and drawing? googling hasn't helped :-( _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:49:24 -0600 From: Charlie Fox <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: The Art of Immersive Soundscapes To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear microsound community, Please note: THE ART OF IMMERSIVE SOUNDSCAPES A Summer Institute at the University of Regina July 5-19, 2004 The Department of Music and the Department of Media Production and Studies, University of Regina, are proud to present The Art of Immersive Soundscapes, an intensive two-week summer institute on the creation of multichannel, spatial audio soundscapes. Interested? Please visit: www.uregina.ca/soundscape Regards, Charles Fox Associate Professor Dept of Media Production and Studies Faculty of Fine Arts University of Regina Regina, Saskatchewan Canada From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:25:16 -0400 From: Patrick Norris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out loud) 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will yeild interesting results. p _________________________________________________________________ Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win a trip to NY http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:42:01 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Norris" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:25 PM Subject: RE: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer. > (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), > > there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out > loud) > > 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. > I was lucky enough to witnes The Modified Toy Orchestra last weekend in Leicester as part of the Sonic Arts Network, Soundcircus event (anyone get to go?). The sounds this guy got out of these toys were fantastic (from glitches and sounscape kind of stuff to full on noise fest and barrage of beats) and the performance of him coaxing and wrenching out those sounds captivated the entire audience. I got the chance for a brief chat with Brian after the show where he explained that basically he traces a wire over the circuitboard causing shorts and if it has an interesting effect he puts a switch in. I found this on a quick search: http://westmidlands.ideasfactory.com/performance/features/feature22.htm it seems similar to the modified speak and spell on the Alien Instruments page graham posted. Also I bought a single on the night called "This Is The Monkey" on Warm Circuit (WWW.WARMCIRCUIT.COM) which isn't as good as the live stuff but still quite good (the other side "Ode To Joy" is better). Best Murray (dj_spleenbaby) From Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:13:34 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer/circuit bending To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT www.alien-devices.com i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and hard techno and all things lullaby-like... g. Patrick Norris wrote: > (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), > > there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out > loud) > > 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. > > 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. > > although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will > yeild interesting results. > > p > > _________________________________________________________________ > Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win > a trip to NY > http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:26:22 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] prepared piano well, actually synthesizer/circuit bending To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF7305E.20E7%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/16/04 11:13 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > www.alien-devices.com > > i have an alesis hr16 done by him and i'm sending off my tr-727 shortly to be > lovingly butchered. awesome sounds. digital detritus at its best (god i love > that word - thanks tobias). great for industrial, drill n' bass, noise and > hard techno and all things lullaby-like... > > g. > > Patrick Norris wrote: > >> (what could be a prepared synthetizer ?), >> >> there are two ways in my opinion to prepare a synth. (just thinking out >> loud) >> >> 1 circuit bending. bridging random pins on the ICs in the synthesizer. >> >> 2 preparing the loudspeakers that the synthesizer will play through. >> >> although neither of these is technically preparing a synthesizer, both will >> yeild interesting results. >> >> p >> interesting, what do you mean by preparing speakers, can you list a few examples? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:49:51 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Sources sonores!!! To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello everybody... 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Cheason designs most of the artwork for the plop label -- www.inpartmaint.com/plop/ FM3 (cn), a Beijing-based collective of computer and classical musicians, fm3 focuses on digitally distilling ancient Chinese folk tradition into an organic, meditative, minimalist soundscape -- www.fm3.com.cn GHISLAIN POIRIER (ca), Montreal native Poirier released two critically-acclaimed full-lengths on experimental labels 12K and Intr_version. Recently his work appeared on Chocolate Industries. JANEK SCHAEFER [uk] Janek trained as an architect at the Royal College of Art, emerged as a sound artist and composer, and lives and works in London. He has releases on FatCat, Hot Air, Staalplaat, Sirr, Sub Rosa and runs AudiOh! -- www.audiOh.com BiP_HOp Generation [v.6] [bleep 19] SCANNER (uk) Since 1992, Robin Rimbaud has composed albums, soundtracks for films, performances, radio, and site-specific intermedia installations. www.scannerdot.com ILPO VAISANEN (Fi) 1/2 of renowned duo Pan Sonic, Ilpo goes solo once in a while. Check his records on Mego and Raster:Noton... ANGEL (De/Fi) the collaborative project of Schneider TM and Ilpo Väisänen. First album out on BiP_HOp. BATTERY OPERATED (Ca) trio living in Montreal, and Paris. www.batteryoperated.net ALEJANDRA & AERON (US/Es) Founders of the Lucky Kitchen label and recently prized at Ars Electronica. www.luckykitchen.com BITTONIC (De) improvised glitch-tech performances based around electronically manipulated and digitally warped voice sounds. Iris is co-organiser of London based Sprawl and Field 61. www.dfuse.com/BitTonic BiP_HOp Generation [v.5] [bleep 13] ACCELERA DECK (USA) Active in obscurity for many years he has crossed paths with Neo Ouija, Pitchcadet, Morr, 555 recordings... ANDREW DUKE (Ca) has been recording and performing his own music, producing and remixing others, and hosting his weekly radio show since 1987. Upcoming records on BiP_HOp, Staalplaat, Phtalo... MIKAEL STAVOSTRAND (Se) a key figure in the Swedish experimental music scene releasing on Mille Plateaux TONNE (UK) The last three years have seen Paul Farrington develop and produce controlled systems for sound and image interaction. He has worked with Scanner, Håkan Lidbo and Monolake. RECHENZENTRUM (De) creators of Maladjusted Electronica, who sample sound and image from every possible source - the potential of the raw material, irritation, and questioning the forms of reception are guiding lights... D'IBERVILLE (Fr) A music made of rhythm layers, digital artifacts and more organic sounds : process more than result ! Julien Berthier is the graphic designer of the BiP_HOp website and "generation series" artwork. + enhanced CD "BiP_HOp's soundtoy" created by Tonne. Interactive sound interfaces allow music to be visually produced, samples and tones are triggered by the activity of the graphics. BiP-HOp Generation v. 4 [bleep 08] MIRA CALIX (UK) south african born italian currently working on her second solo album, for Warp. SI-(CUT).DB (UK) is half of Tennis & running the Sprawl Imprint. DATACH'I (USA) comes from New-York, 3 albums on Caipirinha. TWINE (USA) releases on Komplott, Hefty. Vs_PRICE (France) is one of the best French acts, working on a 12" to appear on Adenoide. CRAY (Aus) released recordings with projects such as Eden, Amnesia, 56k and This Digital Ocean. Minimal meets sonic creations, glitch beats, ambient, abstract soundscapes, noise and melody, digital dreams and technology. BiP-HOp Generation v. 3 [bleep 05] NEOTROPIC (UK) aka Riz Maslen records for Ninja Tune BOVINE LIFE (UK) aka Chris Dooks is digital artist, broadcast tv director and musician who has collaborated w/ Third Eye Foundation, Komet, Kohn... First album upcoming on BiP_HOp. PIMMON (Australia) aka Paul Gough who seems to be everywhere... KraaK, Falt, Staalplaat, Meme... ZONK'T (France) aka Laurent Perrier who used to be in Nox and used to run Odd Size, Cape Fear and is now recording under this pseudonym. ATAU TANAKA (Japan) who records for Caipirinha, Fals.ch and does Sensorband. NOVEL 23 (Russia) aka Roman Belousov who has an album on Pitchcadet. BiP_HOp Generation v.2 [bleep 02] BERNARD FLEISCHMANN (Austria) who has records on Morr Music, Charhizma... AROVANE (Germany) has records on Din, Morr, City Centre Offices, Vertical Form WARMDESK (USA) has done records for Fällt, and Static Caravan + a split w. PImmon on A Posterori KÖHN (Belgium) has two albums on (Kraak)3. WANG INC. (Italy) has done a 12" on Sonig. LAURENT PERNICE (France) did 4 albums on PDCD and 2 new one are upcoming on Moloko+ and Organic. BiP_HOp Generation v.1 [bleep 01] : SCHNEIDER TM (Germany) records for City Slang. PHONEM (UK) has records with Morr Music, Jetlag... GOEM (the Netherlands) have done albums with Mego, Staalplaat, Noise MuseuM... MARUMARI (new-york) Latest albums on Carpark. ULTRA MILKMAIDS (France) Albums on Ant Zen, Noise MuseuM, Staalplaat ... MASSIMO (Italy) Albums on Microwave, Fals.ch/Mego and Staalplaat. http://www.bip-hop.com From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:50:51 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Symbiosis Playlist - 13/6/04 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIGEBHCMAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w)" --Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MessageSymbiosis "Sound Textures" Headphones recommended 12am - 2am Sunday nights (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hey there, It's been a while since the last Symbiosis email but things have been traveling nicely.. Last week Terre Thaemlitz had a chat to me about his first visit Australia, the 'Lovebomb' multimedia performance and the usual mix of great thought that always infuses his output. For those in Melbourne, the show details are: Friday 18 June, 7pm. Kaleide RMIT Union Theatre 360 Swanston Street, Melbourne The after party is at Safe and Sound.. totally free and best of all it's a birthday celebration! (1 to be exact) Come down and celebrate @ Bourgie, 397 Lt Lonsdale St. b/w Elizabeth & Queen St. This week's show will be pretty chilled - no guests at this stage... Coming Soon: Antiopic Records/Allegorical Power Series feature, Exclusive Sub Rosa mix and feature, all new website with streaming audio/archives! cheers, Simon. np: Vladislav Delay - "demo(n) tracks" / Leaf Sampler - "Delivery Room" Film: 'Supersize Me' Terre Thaemlitz: http://comatonse.com/thaemlitz/ -------------------------------------------- Show From Date: 13/06/04 Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label Terre Thaemlitz :: genrecide ('I wish Tricky'd Die Any Way I Hope') :: Modulation & Transformation 4 :: Mille Plateaux Wolfgang Voigt :: 1 :: 20 to 2000 :: Raster-Noton Vladislav Delay :: kainuu :: Demo(n) Tracks :: Huume - Terre Thaemlitz Interview including: chng yourlove from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) welcome (time has left us) from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) DT from 'Institutional Collaborative' (with Jane Dowe) (Mille Plateaux) SDII from 'Lovebomb' (Mille Plateaux) (I focused on Lovebomb for this interview but I highly recommend Terre's many past releases - check out www.comatonse.com) Quiet American :: donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal :: Phonography.org 4 :: www.phonography.org Lawrence English :: (excerpt) :: Ghost Towns :: Room40 Stalker :: #1 :: Empire :: Geometrik Scanner :: remix mouse on mars :: Utopian Diaries: Double Articulation :: Sub Rosa Murcof :: una :: Delivery Room :: Leaf Tu'M :: 12:46am :: domenica :: ERS Johan Skugge :: varmland voodoo :: Who Is Your Superhero? (OFFF 03) :: Red Qua :: stranger comforts have slipped by :: Motion :: Preservation ----------------------- To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --Boundary_(ID_R4Rlu0FeyrdpTM2c8tnd5w)-- From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:18:24 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <002201c4547f$30fa3420$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, current.array . current.array was created to bring you prints from composers working in the field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the less promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for the series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers. each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each print will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces. printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes (men's) small - medium - large summer.2004 brings us steve roden http://inbetweennoise.com (trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k) janek schaefer http://www.audiOh.com (sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!) john hudak http://www.johnhudak.net (alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar) on sale June 23rd, 2004 you can reserve your shirt/s now on the website to see the new line of shirts visit... www.current-recordings.com also available June 23rd, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can be heard on the site. From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:19:39 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees... g. "j.frede" wrote: > current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, > current.array . From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:25:33 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden, Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF74C4D.20F8%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > great idea - does anyone know of any other microsound/glitch inspired clothing > lines out there? i am in dire new of some new tees... > > g. > > "j.frede" wrote: > >> current recordings is proud to announce the launch of the new t-shirt line, >> current.array . > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:40:32 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT all i get is the front page... how does one get in? precursor wrote: > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT the little sidebar/contact button says its being launched 5.1.04 v' --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > precursor wrote: > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:53:04 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007f01c454ce$9db3d0e0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long passed... Lars www.waldchengarten.dk www.noisejihad.dk ----- Original Message ----- From: "vadim sprikut" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > launched 5.1.04 > > v' > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:56:17 -0400 From: Al Ka <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thank you for your inquiries. We apologize for the delay; we are currently finalizing the script for the website. In the meantime, if you are interested, we can email our collection in digital form (off-list). As soon as the website is complete, the list will certainly be informed. -- Dotee beings > >yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long >passed... >Lars > > > > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > > launched 5.1.04 > > > > v' > > > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:36:51 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c45539$51993b30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The mother of t-shirts sites, which happens to be doing a contest: http://www.threadless.com/ I like: http://www.threadless.com/product/48.html http://www.threadless.com/product/114.html http://www.threadless.com/product/109.html http://www.threadless.com/product/100.html etc, etc... cheers, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > -----Original Message----- > From: Noisejihad [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:53 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve > Roden,Janek Schaefer and John Hudak > > > yeah, but however you read it (5th jan or 1st may) this date has long > passed... > Lars > www.waldchengarten.dk > www.noisejihad.dk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vadim sprikut" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:48 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] current.array t-shirts by Steve Roden,Janek > Schaefer and John Hudak > > > > the little sidebar/contact button says its being > > launched 5.1.04 > > > > v' > > > > --- graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > all i get is the front page... how does one get in? > > > > > > precursor wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/17/04 12:19 PM, graham miller at > > > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > > > > > > > > you should definitely check out www.Dotee.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:26:48 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: force inc? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT what happened to the website? the company? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:40:50 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to have gone down the drain due to the EFA crash (big German "Indie" distributor) > what happened to the website? the company? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:59:24 +0200 From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-xxxxxx.xx (Christopher Kreiss) Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <163d01c4548c$71bf8cf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Didn't Achim Szepanski himself announce the forthcoming release of "Clicks 'n' Cuts 4" and some stuff by Thomas Köner, some weeks ago on this list? As I heard, the situation of the company became more and more chaotic, recently... > > what happened to the website? the company? From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: eight fm <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT things have changed....but they will be resurfacing soon.....clicks and cuts 4 among other things should be out round august....I think achim posted some upcoming releases here a while back.... --- The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Force Inc / Mille Plateaux / Ritornell etc. seems to > have gone down the > drain due to the EFA crash (big German "Indie" > distributor) > > > > what happened to the website? the company? > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ===== www.eight-frozen-modules.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:04:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT force inc = efa bancruptcy earlier this year... On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, graham miller wrote: > what happened to the website? the company? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:37:34 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ)" --Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i think i might have contracted 'bancruptcy' while abroad. no worries though - i've notified the CDC. i'll be placed in isolation with nothing but a circuit bent speak and spell to nurse me back to health. g. Neil Wiernik wrote: > force inc = efa bancruptcy earlier this year... > > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, graham miller wrote: > > > what happened to the website? the company? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_2zmPpmXDZEpD55lncVyVJQ)-- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:26:52 +0200 From: Micard <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada Offspring. It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's wait and see. JF From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:46:54 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be the new german distros. - a On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. > > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's > wait and see. > > JF > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:10:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Brozek <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Micard wrote: > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. Are these releases available to buy somewhere on-line? daniel From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:51:49 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF879C5.8F1D%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT mdm.de http://www.mutualism.de/ marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be > the new german distros. > > - > a > > > On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > >> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >> "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >> Offspring. >> >> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >> wait and see. >> >> JF >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:22:28 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003301c45515$c862aa40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT JF; > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > Offspring. Wow! dvd material by köner? that sounds quite interesting. Can I ask what´s on the dvd? Is Nuuk a straight rerelease of the Nuuk cd that was in the "Driftworks" box that was released by Bigcat in ´97 or are there some extras? While I´m at it; does anybody know wether there are some video recordings of Köner´s experiments with Jürgen Reble where they treated film loops with chemicals? I own the "Kaamos" cd but it seems incomplete without the images. Yours, Kas. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left behind but I really dont know... On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be > the new german distros. > > - > a > > > On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: > > > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with > > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada > > Offspring. > > > > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's > > wait and see. > > > > JF > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:14:38 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF8A94E.8F4B%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT our label, mousikelab, is going to be distribuited by mdm..... marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > > I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake > and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... > I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left > behind but I really dont know... > > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be >> the new german distros. >> >> - >> a >> >> >> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: >> >>> I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >>> "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >>> Offspring. >>> >>> It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >>> wait and see. >>> >>> JF >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> Andrew Jones >> 912 Euclid Ave. >> Birmingham, AL, 35213 >> 407-927-7607 >> aim: liminal18 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:09:14 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF73A2D.811E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi , you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the output ( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be especially good. i have two questions for the list at large. has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions? (that's a two part question actually) is there any single bitstream dsp happening? ---- bill on 6/13/04 4:37 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:35:54 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I haven't heard SACD, but the following comments from Dominique Bassal's paper on mastering in electroacoustic music might be of interest (published on the CEC webpage, in the original French: cec.concordia.ca/ftp/La_pratique_du_Mastering.pdf and in English translation: cec.concordia.ca/ftp/The_Practice_of_Mastering.pdf): "[SACD] consists of an extension of the oversampling technique called DSD, capable of offering, due to a sampling rate of 2.8224 mHz at 1 bit, a frequency response ranging from direct current to 100 kHz and a dynamic range of 120 dB. This said, the lack of timeliness of Super Audio CD is dismaying: -it is based on a technology completely at odds with LPCM, used in all digital systems to this day. No current recording system, program, plug-in, etc can be adapted to it, and the specific sound recording and treatment tools are very rare and exorbitantly expensive; - even if largely considered, from the point of view of sound quality, as equal to or marginally superior to LPCM 24 bit/96 kHz and 24 bit/192 kHz, SACD, like CD-Audio before it- but unlike its high-density LPCM competitors- is a closed format, offering few possibilities of integration with eventual improvements; - unlike DVD-Audio readers, for which a FireWire digital output is foreseen, offering at least the possibility of a D/A conversion by a specialized external device, all SACD readers, with one exception, are equipped only with analog outputs. An aberrant contradiction with the audiophile vocation of the format; - and of course, it is out of the question for an SACD reader to read DVD-A, and vice-versa. As for the possibility of reading an SACD on a CD-Audio player, it is illusory: for a much higher price than CD, we get a performance exactly the same, since all that’s happening is that an entirely separate layer is being read from the SACD, at the Red Book standard! " best, Ian _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:44:47 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio formats To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003901c454a3$947c19e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT funny you should mention SACD, i was just reading about this format on the where i get my CDs made,,, it sounds really amazing! anyone that has not heard of this format can read in brief about it here http://www.cdman.com/store/sacd.html it explains the process and such... its too bad that you have to have a SACD player to experience the surround sound aspects,,we can only hope that all future cd players become equipped with this technology. i havent heard any work in this format you, but from what i have heard about it, im sure the next release i do on my label will be in SACD format... j.frede current location: los angeles | www.jfrede.com | www.lomohomes.com/j.frede out.june.23rd | j.frede/scanner | "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" | CD Digipak | www.current-recordings.com installations | june.28th | surface sculpture | highways artspace | Santa Monica, CA | july.24th | undertow installation | sounds from below | LACMA | Los Angeles, CA | august.21st | undertow installation | "siren song for parthenope" | Soundwalk 2004 | Long Beach, CA > > hi , > > you were commenting on the limitations(?) of CD audio and i had a few > thoughts. from what i have gathered , most of the problems are in the output > ( digital to analogue) conversion . if you have a good converter , almost > everything sounds better. i find some of the 1-bit converters to be > especially good. > > i have two questions for the list at large. > > has anyone listed much to SACD? what are the impressions? > > (that's a two part question actually) > > is there any single bitstream dsp happening? > > > > ---- > > bill > > > > > > on 6/13/04 4:37 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > > > http://www.anandtech.com/audio/showdoc.html?i=2079 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:21:53 -0500 From: chris bryan <xx__xx__@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: usb audio devices??? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey, I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. Thanks, chris _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:27:28 +1200 From: Niklas Werner <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <200406181227.28649.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:21, chris bryan wrote: > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in > grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these > things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my > laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. I run this blue baby quite happily: http://www.emagic.de/products/hw/A26/index.php?lang=EN I think it was €350, back when I bought it... pristine sound, easy handling. AND -- most important -- it runs under Linux O:-) Cheers, Niklas -- Computer Music PhD-student University of Waikato Hamilton New Zealand From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCF80E1D.8F08%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Ciao, I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for the price (400€) marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves > magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. Does > anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that has a > good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. > Thanks, > chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http: > //hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:48:13 +0200 From: xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT hello ut's possible to pay less than 400 $ (in italy cost 415 euro...) but you can check at these adresses http://floridamusicco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Firewire410 http://shop.pcconnection.com btw ----------> great tool for home recording... cheers gianluca >-- Messaggio originale -- >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:12:29 +0200 >From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> >To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? > > >Ciao, >I'm using an m-audio 410 (firewire) with my laptop and sounds good for the >price (400¤) > >marco messina >[] [] [] [] [] [] >http://www.mousikelab.com/ >http://www.novenove.it/ >http://www.folderstudio.com/ >[] [] [] [] [] [] > > >> Hey, >> I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in grooves >> magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these things. >Does >> anyone have any recommendations? I need something for my laptop, that >has a >> good in/out on it without spending to much $$$$$. >> Thanks, >> chris >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* >> http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http: >> //hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:59:13 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] usb audio devices??? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT German dealer THOMANN (http://www.thomann.de) is offering an interesting bundle incl. MAYA USB (4 in, 4 out, 16 Bit), CUBASE SE and MIDIMAN OXYGEN keyboard (incl. REASON adapted), crossplatform (MAC/WIN), at the total price of 222 Euro plus shipping. > Hey, > I was looking at the "M-Audio MobilePre USB" that was reviewed in > grooves magazine. It looks good, but I have no experience with these > things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I need something for > my laptop, that has a good in/out on it without spending to much > $$$$$. > Thanks, > chris > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ > prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ > enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge Blank <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: re: prepared piano To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT the best prepared piano playing/music I ever heard was Aurie Hsu from San Francisco. 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Juni 2004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Weitere Informationen / further information: www.podewil.de +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Programm /program Zusatzveranstaltung: 18.06., 20.30 Uhr Klub transmediale.salon in Kooperation mit club transmediale Ultra-Red meets Kanak Attak - work in progress [THE TRANSISTORS TOUR] - Sound Art Activism and Migrant Resistance Soundperformances und Präsentationen von: 1. MANUELA BOJADZIJEV (Kanak Attak) "Trans-It! Migrations" 2. ELLIOT PERKINS (fka Phonem) "Eurodac Express" 3. DONT RHINE (Ultra-red) "Jack Tactic" 19.06., 20.00 GONE WEST Lou Simard, Marie-France Goulet, Ingo Ahmels (Konzeption), Lou Simard (Performance) Mit freundlicher Unterstützung der Botschaft von Kanada Berlin. 21. 06. + 22.06., jeweils 20.00 gmb-H (KAOSS v KAOSS) Deutschlandpremiere Graham Lewis (Wire)(GB), Bruce Gilbert (Wire)(GB), Carl Michael von Hausswolff (S), Rikard Sporrong (Elektronik, Video) (S) Gmb-H wird unterstützt durch den Schwedischen Audio/Visual-Techniker Rikard Sporrong. Eintritt 19./21./22.6. 11/8 Euro tansmediale.salon 5 Euro Programm/program: Elke Moltrecht PODEWIL, Klosterstr. 68-70, 10179-Berlin www.podewil.de Infos: 24749-732, Karten 24749-777 (Mo-Fr, 14-19 Uhr) From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:09:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] EFA et.c (was: force inc?) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hausmusik also picked up a couple of labels formerly distributed by EFA. At least Disko B. - Karri O. > I was woundering is MDM the result of efa or was it set up for monolake > and imbalance records alone? Im a bit confused by it all... > I was under the impression that kompakt took over most of what efa left > behind but I really dont know... > > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, andrew jones wrote: > >> yeah that and what is it MDM or MGM seem to be >> the new german distros. >> >> - >> a >> >> >> On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Micard wrote: >> >> > I just received some new products from the Mille Plateaux galaxy, with >> > "Nuuk" by Thomas Köner, as a CD+DVD, and Bizz Circuits play Intifada >> > Offspring. >> > >> > It seems though that MP switch from EFA to Neuton for distro... Let's >> > wait and see. >> > >> > JF >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> > >> Andrew Jones >> 912 Euclid Ave. >> Birmingham, AL, 35213 >> 407-927-7607 >> aim: liminal18 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:24:29 -0500 From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Arctic Rangers To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Everyone.. I have a copy of Pan Sonic's Rare boxset Artic Rangers "Self-Assembly Soundscape Set" that I am looking to sell. The condition is really good and all the pieces and decals are still in tack. Also it is signed by the boys. I originally paid 90 Dem for it and it is very wanted. I am looking for American Dollars. Make me an offer. thanks Arden p.s., I also have 12k1008 still for sale. co-editor, Juice Journal http://scholar.uwinnipeg.ca/journals/juice/JUICE.htm s. arden hill | duul_drv http://members.shaw.ca/duul_drv/ | xxxx_xxx@xxxx.xx Voted 1 of 15 DODGY group names in the WIRE - APRIL 2003. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:26:30 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Koner/MP/Ritonel? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That is great news to hear that a new koner release is out. Regarding the visual work of koner, I remember seeing a project on his web site that involved footage taken from security cameras of snow covered roads, seemed wonderful, maybe that will make it's way to DVD?. Was it not so that MP was/is slated to release a book concerning sound art? Are they going to scrap this plan??? Also does anyone know if Ritonel will continue to exist? Thanks Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:46:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated. sean From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:54:44 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610050dbcf8ce90deb5@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w)" --Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 12:46 PM -0400 6/18/04, sean donovan wrote: >has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any >thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would >be greatly appreciated. See my review at audioMIDI.com: http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/zvonar_cube.cfm -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --Boundary_(ID_5dYhqQTtJ/cIoFtRSMdp/w)-- From Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:10:19 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] additive synth question To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, sean donovan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002d01c45631$10579ce0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT www.kvr-vst.com is a great place to get information on issues like this. Search the forums & read users' reviews. In addition to Virsyn Cube, I'd suggest investigating into Whitenoise Additive, Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 and DiscoDSP Vertigo. Visa ----- Original Message ----- > has anyone used the virsyn cube additive softsynth? any thoughts/opinions regarding it or another additive softsynth would be greatly appreciated. > > sean > From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:57:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: phoniq hosts <FM> CD launch July 2 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT PRESS RELEASE ---------------------------------------------------- friday july 2 2004 phoniq hosts a launch for the ckut benefit cd < modular systems FM > featuring : pheek - live - www.epsilonlab.com naw - live - www.noisefactoryrecords.com zen - live - ms zaandam khanfucius - dj - panospria.com cyan - dj - modular systems ckut fm jose garcia - visuals - fifteen pounds all happening at casa del popolo, 4873 st-laurent montreal, canada for the small amount of $5.00 $10.00 including cd all proceeds go to ckut for more info visit www.phoniq.net On July 2nd 2004, the phoniq collective hosts the launch of the <modular systems FM> compilation. <FM> is a benefit cd for ckut-fm, featuring 7 tracks donated by montreal electronic music artists. All proceeds from the sales of this cd goes towards the operating budget for the radio station. the event will showcase 3 of the <FM> artists: PHEEK, whose second release on epsilonlab records, "les autres promeneurs", broadens his journey in music making into innovative yet dance friendly realms. NAW, noise factory recording artist and phoniq resident, will immerse you in experimental and deep dub influnced techno and house. ZEN, recently embarked from the MS Zaandam, melds together unexpected elements of dub, experimental sounds and electronica. phoniq residents khanfucius and cyan will open and close the night with dj sets, and local projection artist jose garcia will construct a visual environment via various projection sources. BIOS/INFO phoniq ------ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal. We aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, record labels and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. The concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio (modular systems), event coordinating and dj talents. ckut 90.3 fm ------------- www.ckut.ca CKUT 90.3 FM McGill Radio Inc. is a non-profit campus community radio station that provides alternative music, news and spoken word programming to the city of Montreal and surrounding areas. We broadcast 24 hours a day, every day. Hear us at 90.3 MHz on your FM dial, or 91.7 by cable, or tune in by Real Audio over the Internet. modular systems is an electronic music magazine show featuring new music and interviews with local and international artists. tune in every second Tuesday at 3pm. pheek ----- www.pheek.com epsilonlab, thinner Born in 1972, Jean-Patrice Rmillard was immediately attracted to music. His parents recall the day when he discovered how to use a turntable and from there on out, he would listen to old rock records endlessly. Perhaps the most important discovery for JP was when his babysitter gave him a Bee-Gees record for his birthday and he was introduced to dance music. JP became interested in acid house in the late 80s and raves in early 90s, inspiring him to DJ his own radio shows in Sherbrooke, Qubec. From his college years to university, he played techno, house and anything exciting to people whose ears werent as close to the ground. Upon moving to Montreal in 1997 to study computer science, JP met Mateo Murphy and found they shared similar musical interests. After performing a show with Gez Varley, Mateo and JP decided to work on a live concept of their own, based on improvising beats on the fly and mixing in other synthesized sonic textures. It was at this point that JP adopted the name of Pheek after a Richie Hawtin/Plastikman performance at Medialounge, a show that would forever change his perspective on music. After further honing their live show together, Pheek and Mateo opened for Chain Reaction at the FCMM in 1999. They were spotted by Hautec and offered to release a 12 inch marking a turning point in their fledgling careers. The few years that followed saw proposed releases on Hybrid Structure and collaborations with Mitchell Akiyama on various projects a creative period that proved a catalyst for JPs later success. The next pivotal point in Pheeks career was meeting Eloi Brunelle and subsequently being invited to join to the Epsilonlab media collective. JP played with them since the very first night of their existence and for almost every show to follow. His first release for Epsilonlab, 2002s Paysages Matriciels, was a critical success and was nominated for Quebecs prestigious ADISQ music awards. Later that year, Pheek and Eloi toured Europe together, playing shows in Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Cologne and London. This trip opened up new possibilities for the duo and they completed a second European tour the following year. Recently, JP teamed up with Thinner, one of the more recognized MP3 labels. As well as contributing tracks to Thinners compilations and releasing Tabisuru Kokoro in late 2003, he has coordinated many of their live events, including a Thinner vs. Epsilonlab showcase. As a veteran of the Epsilonlab team, Pheek has released his second album with the label. This will mark the beginning of a new era in the Montreal based label as they will launch a mp3 department. naw --- www.noisefactoryrecords.com aka Neil Wiernik (b.1967) Montreal native Neil Wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. Known to push the boundaries of his musical form from designing new or manipulating existing sound making devices and software to creative uses of production environments and sound sources, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental musics and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. He combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop orineted musics. Neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including releases on Noise Factory, Worthy, Complot, Piehead, A/S Systems, Wabi and Future Rhetoric. As naw, Neil has performed extensively along side a variety of national and international artists both in and outside of Canada. August 2004 naw will release his follow up noise factory records full length record called: "green nights orange days", this record finds Neil at his deepest and dubbiest yet, the release of this record will co inside with a series of North American and European tour dates through out the late summer and fall of 2004. zen --- ms zaandam zen nakamura currently finished a contract aboard a cruise boat as a jazz drummer. While he played all styles of music from the mambo, the cha-cha, swing and other typical ballroom and lounge music, he was composing varied styles of electronic music. Though a dub-reggae/drum'nbass head at heart, his studies in electroacoustics and love of most types of music influenced his infusion of genres all across the board. jose garcia ----------- fifteen pounds Life on the train, or walking in the park or watching the news.....Lying in the grass...that sort of stuff, vultures feeding too. Geronimo's dusty desert brawl in panavision then transfered to super 8. the walls flap, figures sail down a hall with brief cases. It all started in front of the Chateau Laurier, Ottawa. a few years later and something keeps me looking around the corner. khanfucius / scant intone -------------------------- Constantine Katsiris (b. 1980 - Saskatoon, Canada) Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. cyan ---- www.traktion.com (aka Corina MacDonald) Montreal based DJ, radio host and budding techno producer cyan was born and raised in the western provinces of Canada. In 1994 while living in Scotland she she was introduced to the dj culture associated with electronic dance music and was inspired to begin exploring the art of djing. When she returned to Canada, she decided that Montreal would be an ideal city to set her roots down and start exploring this approach to music. DJ culture was not a foreign concept to her and it was a logical extension of her ongoing work in community radio, which began in 1990 in Calgary and continued in Montreal from 1996 on. She now co-hosts CKUT FM^s Modular Systems: an electronic music magazine program. Her sound can best be described as layered raw & funky, dense & deep techno rhythms, influenced by the techno and house sounds of Detroit. cyan can be found regularly playing at various venues in and around Montreal, and has played alongside such artists as naw, noah pred, grannyark and lynne t. She has recently released her 6th independently produced DJ mix called The Gravity Protocol, which has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. She is hard at work in the studio concocting her own variation on electronic dance music. cyan is involved in the phoniq collective, where she co-curates and organizes independent electronic music events featuring local producers and visual artists, and can be seen regularly at these events working the wheels of steel. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:04:02 +0200 From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] force inc? // Koner/MP/Ritonel? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-9 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Here's the mail Szepanski had sent to the list in the midst of the first wave of discussion/rumors about the state of Force Inc. On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:16:37 +0100, Achim Szepanski <xx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> wrote: > hi > > new releases in may/ june > > BIZZ CIRCUITS-play-INTIFADA-OFFSPRING > > CD + DVD + DLP > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > THOMAS KÖNER NUUK > > CD + DVD > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > THOMAS KÖNER BANLIEUE DU VIDE > > CD + DVD > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > CLICKS & CUTS 4 > > CD& DLP > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > soon > > > SOUNDCULTURES > > book (english translation) m. From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:12:43 -0400 From: john hudak <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: rocks role | hudak remixes | download To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <p06020408bcf8b66d677c@[192.168.0.100]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg)" --Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello folks! two remixes by john hudak, http://homepage.mac.com/johnhudak/FileSharing1.html from Rock's Remix, 15 June 2004, 6-8pm, a program with participating artists of Rock's Role (After Ryoanji) performing their own re-mixes of this unique sound exhibition. The show closes 26 June 2004: http://www.artingeneral.org/aig/exhibitions/main_gallery.html best future, john -- john hudak xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://www.johnhudak.net --Boundary_(ID_4EW3iozTquN1wnWhmnYCAg)-- From Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:30:52 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [test] ignore, please To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ignore me. 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SamForce first album, La Société de l'Esprit is free download on http://www.angstprod.com - 13 electro expriment tracks. - 2 formats available : Ogg (80 Mo) and CD Audio image (550 Mo). http://www.angstprod.com/Label SamForce - La Société de l'Esprit HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |*\/*| USE TRANSLATOR FOR THE FORUM _________________________________________________________________ Bloquez les fenêtres pop-up, c'est gratuit ! http://toolbar.msn.fr From Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:37:31 +0000 From: xx cccc <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA To: xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx, xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hi ! 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From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:00:53 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004 http://www.umatic.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- Weblabel Release ----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html] ---------------------------------------------- WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA ----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL] ----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL], ----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR] The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of improvised music originated from umatic‘s first event in march 2004. The event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh collaborations between umatic members and invited artists. http://umatic.nl/label.html ---------------------------------------------- Other Current Umatic Activities [1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.] ----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July [2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July [3] Garage Festival ----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug ----Feedback Performance: 5 August ---------------------------------------------- [1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE ----18 June - 4 July, 2004 ----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron & Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result. ----Performance "Psychonavigators"---- Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps, Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition, 18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here: http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb] ----Installation "Urban[ism]"---- As people travel through space, points between destination are often neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between. http://www.impakt.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- [2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA ----3 - 4 July, 2004 ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL ----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka 'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter' Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP. Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details. Fee: € 65 ---------------------------------------------- [3] GARAGE FESTIVAL ----23 July - 12 August, 2004 ----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004 ----Strahlsund, DE Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress, Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM], which will be presented in the beginning of August. http://www.garage-g.de/ http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html ---------------------------------------------- Umatic.nl are: Bas van Koolwijk Christian Toonk Derek Holzer Ryan Parteka Sara Kolster http://www.umatic.nl/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 181: "What would your closest friend do?" From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:04:55 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: umatic.nl weblabel release + news .........[apologies if duplicate!] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT UMATIC.NL UPDATE ------ June 21 2004 http://www.umatic.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- Weblabel Release ----UMA01_MOIRA [http://umatic.nl/label.html] ---------------------------------------------- WEBLABEL RELEASE: UMA01_MOIRA ----Live-recordings from ImprovSession [March 5 2004, Moira, NL] ----Featuring: 87Central [US/NL], Bas van Koolwijk [NL], ----Christian Toonk [NL] & Yannick Dauby [FR] The first release from the umatic label are two live performances of improvised music originated from umatic‘s first event in march 2004. The event consisted of several audio-visual performances based on fresh collaborations between umatic members and invited artists. http://umatic.nl/label.html ---------------------------------------------- Other Current Umatic Activities [1] Impakt Event [w/ Lucky Kitchen a.o.] ----BAK, Utrecht, NL - 18 June - 4 July [2] Max/MSP/Jitter Video Workshop ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL - 3 - 4 July [3] Garage Festival ----Strahlsund, DE - 23 July - 12 Aug ----Feedback Performance: 5 August ---------------------------------------------- [1] IMPAKT EVENT INSTALLATION + PERFORMANCE ----18 June - 4 July, 2004 ----BAK, basis voor actuele kunst, Lange Nieuwstraat 4, Utrecht, NL Umatic were invited by the Impakt Festival to collaborate with Aeron & Alejandra/Lucky Kitchen for an exhibition in the BAK Gallery in Utrecht on the theme of urbanism. An installation and a performance were the result. ----Performance "Psychonavigators"---- Working with field recordings, instrumental fragments and found maps, Derek Holzer, Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk created a lush audiovisual environment for the opening of the exhibition, 18 June 2004. Samples from this performance can be heard here: http://umatic.nl/mp3/umatic-psychonavigators.mp3 [23min42sec, 27.9Mb] ----Installation "Urban[ism]"---- As people travel through space, points between destination are often neglected. In their multi-channel audio and video installation, Umatic members Ryan Parteka, Bas van Koolwijk and Christian Toonk have transferred this in-between volume of the urban space to the gallery space. Two projectors and a four channel sound system capture and represent urban space for one to consider what lies in-between. http://www.impakt.nl/ ---------------------------------------------- [2] MAX/MSP/JITTER VIDEO WORKSHOP - BAS VAN KOOLWIJK AND RYAN PARTEKA ----3 - 4 July, 2004 ----Umatic studio, Utrecht, NL ----Instructors: Bas van Koolwijk, Ryan Parteka 'An introduction to real time video applications with Max/MSP/Jitter' Bring your own laptop w/ Mac OS 9/X or Windows XP. Contact: xxx@xxxxxx.xx for more details. Fee: € 65 ---------------------------------------------- [3] GARAGE FESTIVAL ----23 July - 12 August, 2004 ----Feedback Performances 5 August, 2004 ----Strahlsund, DE Umatic has been invited to take part in the Garage Festival 2004 'White box - Black Cube'. On the 5th of August, Umatic artists Christian Toonk and Bas van Koolwijk will give live performances based on acoustic and electronic feedback systems. Also during the Garage Festival, Derek Holzer and Sara Kolster will work on the two works in progress, Soundscape_FM [w/ Yannick Dauby] and PANDev [w/ support from STEIM], which will be presented in the beginning of August. http://www.garage-g.de/ http://www.umatic.nl/projects.html ---------------------------------------------- Umatic.nl are: Bas van Koolwijk Christian Toonk Derek Holzer Ryan Parteka Sara Kolster http://www.umatic.nl/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 181: "What would your closest friend do?" From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 05:38:28 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: New release at AUX-IN : john kannenberg To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <p06002000bcfc68d20af9@[209.86.113.221]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Stasisfield announces the latest addition to our live performance sublabel AUX-IN: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/ ] ------------------------------------------ SFA-005: Greatest Hits Live: Live on the Streets of Neon Tour / The Tank, NYC / July 17, 1983 john kannenberg ------------------------------------------ Stasisfield founder john kannenberg digs deep into the vaults to present this collection of his so-called "greatest hits", featuring live interpretations of tracks from three recent releases on the Stasisfield, Topscore and Retinascan labels. This set of solo laptop electronics with manipulated shortwave signals was performed at The Tank in New York City's Hell's Kitchen during the Placard Festival 2003 NYC edition. Enjoy the music, as well as the latest in an increasingly absurd series of live album packaging, at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/aux-in/sfa-005.html ] ------------------------------------------ Also, check out new additions and the 2-for-1 sale in the Stasisfield shop - now until July 15: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/cds/ ] ------------------------------------------ As always, thanks for listening. >> john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] [ http://www.whistlingpariah.com ] -- OUT NOW. -- on Grain of Sound > "indeterminate topography" : 6 new digital image compositions in the premiere issue of Sonic Scope Quarterly, a visual arts magazine [ http://www.grainofsound.com/gos_v3/news.htm ] -- on Retinascan > Gelidus : A sonic interpretation of extreme cold in six parts [ http://www.retinascan.de/compactdiscs/fcd35.htm ] From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:35:38 +0200 From: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Subject: [ot] otolab> audiovisual projects 2001-2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFCB0CA.533D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT otolab audiovisual projects edited by Lucrezia Cippitelli On July 1st, 2004, the Otolab exhibition will open at the MLAC, Laboratory/Museum for Contemporary Art of the "La Sapienza" University in Rome, with Lucrezia Cippitelli as curatrix. In the halls of the Museum/Laboratory, an itinerary which illustrates the A/V projects realized by Otolab over the period 2001-2004 will be on display. Interactive exhibits, made up of tools for the production of sounds and images developed by the Otolab collective and used in the course of its live performances, will host the Millepiani, P.U.L.P. (shown at Contacteurope Milan) and Quartetto.swf; the latter was the winner of the Italian Live Media Contest 2002 as well as Netmage 03. An immersive space will allow visitors to experience recordings of the following live media projects: Duetto.swf, (previously shown at Peam in Pescara, Cartoombria in Perugia, ImproVisual at the Prague Biennial, Carthusia in Siena), Polystatic (Netmage 04), Stare Mesto (ImproVisual, Prague Biennial) and Ten (reelaboration of work presented at the Festival des arts électroniques, Bruxelles) The third section of the exhibition will host the screening of a selection of multimedia clips, some unreleased and others which were previously shown at a number of festivals (Videominuto 2003 in Prato, Batofar in Paris, 2003 Prague Biennial, Moov03 Media Art Festival in New York, Merciless Film Series in New York). Visitors of this section will also be able to see Transizionilente, the audiovisual opus developed for Tantratheta: the installation has been designed for being experienced inside Pathfinder, a sensory deprivation tank commonly used as a complement to relaxation techniques. Finally, the last section will display the most significant graphic exhibits produced by Otolab. For the opening night of the exhibition, Otolab will present a live set of its most recent audiovisual performance Syn3_Africa, which will take place at 7:30 pm in the MLAC area. The exhibition is part of MLAC's Laboratory program, and has been partly financed by Regione Lazio for researching "Application of novel multimedial technologies in contemporary art", as part of the experimental Stage/Master courses in Critical Curating and Museum Installation, promoted by the Museum Director Simonetta Lux and produced by the MLAC curator Domenico Scudero. Opening July 1st 2004, 7:30 pm live media performance: Syn_africa MLAC, Museo Laboratorio di Arte Contemporanea. Università di Roma "La Sapienza" Piazzale Aldo Moro 5, Roma. from July 1st to July 31st, 2004 Mon-Fri 10:00 am - 6:30 pm http://www.luxflux.net/museolab/press.htm Press: Tatiana Giovannetti http://www.otolab.net http://www.otolab.net/tunez/html From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:12:19 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for June 9, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/06/09 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Steve Lacy > solo performance > Guelph Jazz festival > roughidea > > > > Atomic/School Days > Dogdays > Nuclear Assembly Hall > Okka Disc > > > > Trio Derome/Guibeault/Tanguay > Verone > 10 compostions de Jean Derome > Ambience Magnestiques > > > > Steve Dalchinsky/Frederico Ughi > We Play Just LikeDominos > I Thought It Was The End ... > 577 Records > > > > Hasp > Gossip and Rumour > Mix Your Languages > Ramboy > > > > Steve Lacy > Ducks > Trio Live > New Tone > > > > Arnt Jurgensen/Guy Le Blanc > Slide > live at New Works Studio > independent > > > > Ernesto Rodrigues > E UR > Cesura > Creative Sources > > > > Ig Henneman String Quartet > Vivo Son > Piazza Pia > Wig > > > > Wolfgang Mitterer > Radio Fractual/Beat Music pt 3 > Radio Fractual/Beat Music > Hat hut > > > > Mike Hansen > Waltz For Debbie(solo) > The Bill Evans Project > independent > > > > Jason Kuhn > Miramar part 2 > Miramar > Sirrecords > > > > Frode Gjerstad/Lasse Marhaug > Improvisation no.5 > Tou > FMR Records > > > > Jeck/Lang/Lacy > dw 1.2 remix 7.4 > Trio 3 New Jazz Meeting > Hathut > > > > Les Poules > Les Glaneuses > Prairie Orange > Ambiance Magnetiques > > > > Nick fraser/Justin Haynes > Eating Disorders in Action > Are Faking It > independent > > > > Nick Fraser/Justin Haynes > This Statement is False/Beachball Volleyball > Are Faking It > independent > > > > Mats Gustafsson > Retreat > Windows > Blue Chopsticks > > > > Thelonious Monk > Evidence > Big Band and Quartet > CBS > > > > Dalachinsky/Ughi > It's Been Nothing Since ... > I Thought It Was The End Of The > 577 Records > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:39 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: test To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000301c457c9$de55bb60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw)" --Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ok --Boundary_(ID_CyhDMYg+FSIoz2gLUCtesw)-- From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:01:01 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: ::radicaltechgnology:: To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c457ca$7db6d180$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw)" --Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT RADICALTECHNOLOGY Is an experimental project that it looks for develop an investigation about electronic means and their mechanisms of representation. taking electronic remainders and the errors produced in the Digital System Processing. Click here: http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/ Juanjose Rivas Zúñiga Radical technology video || noise || xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx RADICALTECHNOLOGY Es un proyecto experimental que busca desarrollar una investigación dentro de los medios electrónicos y sus mecanismos de representación tomando como materia prima los residuos electrónicos y los errores producidos dentro del sistema de procesamiento digital. Haz clic aquí: http://mx.geocities.com/justburnagain/ Juanjose Rivas Zúñiga Radical technology video || noise || xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx --Boundary_(ID_2F1exukJy23NLMgZiE6XLw)-- From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 03:27:29 +0000 From: twonky yup <xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: wobbly To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT From: Boniato <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Boniato-004: Wobbly, Blevin Blectum, Sutekh and People Like Us From Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:05:28 -0400 Wobbly "Multiple Peady" [Boniato-004] 12-inch EP (45 RPM) Release From Date: June 21, 2004 (USA) A1. "General Peady" (Wobbly) A2. "Chicken Jiggler Peady" (Blevin Blectum) B1. "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" (Sutekh) B2. "Tremble Peady" (People Like Us) "Multiple Peady", a set of four remixes of two tracks from Wobbly's "Playlist" EP, resulting in a bizarre, but coherent suite of music for the uh dance floor. Wobbly's own "General Peady" is actually the Original Peady, a strict-tempo hop, stitching tunes from angry pieces. Blevin Blectum's "Chicken Jiggler Peady" atomizes the Peady into a writhing, mysterious mass, less Chicken than Snake. Sutekh's "Clawing Your Eyes Out Down To Your Peady" is blazing, full-throttle, swing-time, 12-inch specific, while People Like Us' "Tremble Peady" peels the sound-set away to reveal a bafflingly lovely arrangement of the original, country/gospel tune. The "Multiple Peady" EP is pressed on green vinyl in an edition of 440 and packaged in a generic, bodega-style, center-die-cut, chipboard cover and sealed in a durable, poly-bag. Please refer to your stylus manufacturer's specifications in order to extract the full dynamic range from the grooves. Wobbly is San Francisco resident Lon Leidecker. Wobbly releases include "Wild Why" for Tigerbeat6, "Live 99>00" for Phthalo, "Regards" for Alku, and "Playlist" for Illegal Art. Ongoing studio and live projects involve collaborations with Matmos, People Like Us, Thomas Dimuzio, and, as keyboardist for the audio/video band SAGAN, with fellow members J Lesser, Blevin Blectum, and Ryan Junell. http://boniato.net http://forcedexposure.com/labels/boniato.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:43:12 -0500 From: Juanjose <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: test= Ignore me. To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c4581b$cf861a10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg)" --Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sorry I have some problems with my mail --Boundary_(ID_+KyjTFQbZyIyIBFz1LbmZg)-- From Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:51:24 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? WELCOME TO THE ELECTRONS LIBRES AND FUTURE (re)<MIX NEWSLETTER -----------------------------------ELECTRONS----------------- ---------------LIBRES------------------------------------ --------------------POWERPLAY ----------------------------------- No Emission!!! See ya In July for the "Summer Complexity party time" :-) -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------FUTURE (re)MIX------------------ +++++++++-----13h/16h---------------21/06/04******-----+-+-+++- ------------------------------------------- Check it the june playlist very soon @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1....Is Back In time...It's THE BRAIN #28 All playlist : http://lautre.thebrain.net Part2: MISS KITTIN ON THE WAY 1-Detroit Grand Pubahs feat Miss Kittin: Cash Without working (Jive) -Album "Funk all y'all" 2-Antonelli Electr with Miss Kittin: The Vogue (Italic, La Baleine) -V/A "Dancer" 3-Golden Boy with Miss Kittin: Rippin Kittin [Elle Allien remix] (Ladomat, Labels) -Rippin Kittin ep 4-Miss Kittin & The Hacker: You & Us (Gigolo) -Album "1st album" 5-Miss Kittin: Professional Distorsion [Modelselektor remix] (Nobody'z bizness, Labels) -Professional distorsion ep 6-Max de Warderer: Luster (Accidental, Discograph) -Album "Where I am Today" 7-Rhthm Maker: Cityciticism (Level records 01) -Quartett ep (with Andy Vaz...) http://www.level-records.com 8-Rene Breitbarth:Zaq (Treibstoff records) -Album "Solar" http://www.treibstoff.org 9-Luomo: Vocalcity 1 market (Force Tracks) -Vocalcity 1 market ep 10-Aqua Bassino: Baby C'mon (F.com, Pias) -Beats'n'bobs ep 11-Luke Vibert: Let's dance and freak (Rephlex, La Baleine) -Ep "let's dance and freak" 12-Citizens feat. Girlzklub: Get the fuck out [wegner remix] (Lebensfreude 03) -Get the fuck out & remixes ep http://www.lebensfreude-berlin.de 13-Tomas Andersson: 2002-05-07 (Bpitch control) -Minimal Mama ep 14-Seek & Destroy:Socializing (Lebensfreude records) -V/A "Lebensfreude" 15-Mr Oizo:1$44 (F.com) -Stunt ep 16-Umod [Aka Domu] : Tromboline (Sonar Kollectiv, Discograph) -Album "Enter the Umod" http://www.dom-uniqueproductions.co.uk 17-Marcos Valle:Valeu [4hero remix] (Fabric, Pias) -V/A "FabricLive 15" 18-Marcos Valle: Parabens + Quarteto Em Cy: Tudo que Voce podia ser (Ether records) -V/A "Gilles Peterson In Brazil-Classico & Da hora" 19-Theo Parrish: Sawala Sayala (Sound Signature) -Ep "I can't take it" 20-Throbbing Gristle: hot on the heels of love [Ratcliffe remix] (Novamute, Labels) -Album remix "Mutant TG" 21-Aux 88: Bytes (430 west records) -ep "Bytes" Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres 17h-18h /The Brain13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 02:39:57 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: TWiki site To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFC517E.10D24%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT does anyone have server space where we can set up a TWiki server for the microsound list? please contact me offline... danke! KIM PS greetings from Mons.BE! From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:44:32 +0000 From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Contents Onda Sonora 23-06-04 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT www.ondasonoraradio.com Radio Círculo De Bellas Artes. Miércoles. 15:00-16:00. 100.4 Fm www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autònoma. Martes-Jueves-Sabado. 18:00-19:00 www.uam.es/radio Radio Enlace. Martes. 19:00-20:00. 107.5 Fm. Madrid Contenidos Onda Sonora (Radio Sesiones Experimentales) 23-06-04 01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop Corte incluido en el excelente doble cd, editado por Staubgold, que acompaña al ultimo libro de David Toop y proveniente de la tercera colaboracion en disco entre ambos compositores britanicos que acaba de publicar Bip-hop 02. COTI Track: Pluckp Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra Nos trasladamos a las oficinas del sello griego Poeta Negra en Salonica con el cuarto disco del productor y compositor griego Coti. Lo que va a sonar es un corte de la primera parte de este doble cd, más aislacionista e inquietante 03. COTI Track: Neige P. Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra Uno de los cortes del excelente segundo cd de Coti, Lato, más melódico y compacto que su parte complementaria, Lido 04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS Track: Night Pulses Album: Sonicity Label: Sonicity Otro doble disco, documenta la actividad de los estudios de la City Universtity de Londres en los ultimos dos años. El corte que va a sonar corresponde al griego Apostolos Loufopoulos, ganador de varios premios en el campo de la composición electroacustica 05. AMBROSE SEDDON Track: Tambo Album: Sonicity Label: Expanding De el griego Apostolus Loufopoulos al britanico Ambrose Seddon que empezo trabajando en proyectos de rock y electronica y más tarde empezo a dedicarse a la composicon acusmática. Esto es un estudio de la Tamburina incluido tambien en el doble cd Sonicity, editado por la City University de Londres 06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN Track: Mouvement Aerion Album: Mouvements Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post Ultimo trabajo de este interesante artista que reside y trabaja en Paris. Esto es Mouvement, una obra que publica el sello aleman Raster-noton 07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN Track: Standard Klickmusik Album: Standard Klickmusik Label: Mitek Notable colaboracion entre 4 artistas de la ciudad de Hasslehölml, al sur de Suecia, el ya reputado Andreas Tilliander, el más desconocido pero igual de interesante Stefan Tho, aka Folie, y dos miembros de Pfeffenbauer 08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: Exterior Beaten Album: Rooting For The Microbes Label: Load Excelente ultimo trabajo de los americanos Nautical Almanac, en el cual se han rodeado de colaboradores y en el que no han utilizado electiricidad ni ordenadores, trabajando con instrumentos caseros creados por ellos mismos 09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: It`s Better tell Secrets Album: Six Residua Label: Heresee Anterior trabajo de Nautical Almanac, un proyecto que comenzo en Michigan, pero que tuvo que trasladarse a Chicago por problemas con la justicia, y de ahí a Baltimore, donde los componentes de Nautical Almanac han establecido su nueva base que utilizan como sala para sus conciertos y como base para su propio sello Heresee, en donde publicaron Cisum 10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA Track: Come to Debbie Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin Label: Murkow Relecturas de 9 temas clásicos de Aphex Twin que este britanico de 22 años ha editado a traves de su propia plataforma Murkow. Su música, poco definible, tiene influencias de artistas como Pascal Comelade o Los Residents entre otros. El tema que va a sonar es una version del Come To Daddy de Aphex Twin, en este caso Come To Debbie 11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin Album: Porn Sword Tobacco Label: City Centre Offices Esta semana nos despedimos desde el sello aleman City Centre Ofices con uno de los mejores trabajos que han editado hasta la fecha, se trata de Porn Sword Tobacco, proyecto proveniente de Suecia con temas preciosos y con influencias de Harold Budd, Erik Satie o Brian Eno, entre otros English Version Contents Onda Sonora (Experimental Radio Sessions) 23-06-04 01. MAX EASTLEY / DAVID TOOP Track: Eyelash Turned Inwards Album: Haunted Weather / Doll Creature Label: Staubgold / Bip-hop Track from the double cd enclosed in David Toop’s last book “Haunted Weather”. It comes from the recent third collaboration between both British composers, “Doll Creatures” 02. COTI Track: Pluckp Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra From Poeta Negra label offices in Thessalonika, the fourth album of Greek composer and music productor Coti. A double cd with two complementary parts: “Lido...” 03. COTI Track: Neige P. Album: Lido / Lato Label: Poeta Negra .... and “Lato”. The first more abstract and this one going deeper into melodies 04. APOSTOLOS LOUFOPOULOS Track: Night Pulses Album: Sonicity Label: Sonicity Sonicity” is another double disc, documenting the activities of the City University studios in London. Apostolos Loufopoulos is a Greek composer awarded in the field of electroacoustic composition 05. AMBROSE SEDDON Track: Tambo Album: Sonicity Label: Expanding From Apostolos Loufopoulos to Ambrose Sedon, who began working with rock and electronica and has become one of the leading promises of acousmatic composition in the United Kingdom, along with Canadian Ian Stewart 06. HERVE BOGHOSSIAN Track: Mouvement Aerion Album: Mouvements Label: Raster-noton / Raster Post Last work by Herve Boghossian, an artist who lives and works from Paris. Guitar composed tracks later re-worked by computer-based effects 07. MINIMALISTIC SWEDEN Track: Standard Klickmusik Album: Standard Klickmusik Label: Mitek Last edition of Swedish Mitek label. A collaboration between four Hasslehölm artists: Andreas Tilliander, Stefan Thor, aka Folie, and the two members of Pfeffenbauer -the Sweddish minimalistic activists 08. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: Exterior Beaten Album: Rooting For The Microbes Label: Load Last work by Nautical Almanac in the Load label, surrounded by some collaborators and played without electricity or computers, working with homemade instruments created by themselves speially for the occasion 09. NAUTICAL ALMANAC Track: It`s Better tell Secrets Album: Six Residua Label: Heresee This is Nautical Almanac's previous work, a project that was born in Michigan, moved to Chicago for legal problems and then to Baltimore, Maryland, where they have established themselves, using their attic as a concert room for their live shows and creating their own Heresee label 10. ERGO PHIZMIZ AND HIS ORCHESTRA Track: Come to Debbie Album: ergo phizmiz and his orchestra plays aphex twin Label: Murkow One of the re-workings between the nine classic Aphex Twin tracks that this young British (22), Ergo Phizmiz, has edited through his platform Murkow 11. PORN SWORD TOBACCO Track: Riot Control / Charlie Chaplin Album: Porn Sword Tobacco Label: City Centre Offices Between the best works released in City Centre Offices, the album by this Sweddish project called Porn Sword Tobacco Nota: Este correo no ha sido solicitado, pero hemos considerado que te podría interesar. 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THE MARKETPLACE http://sonomu.net/shops/ Buy directly from our label members! Label members include Hungry Hill, Benbecula, Lo Recordings, Uncharted Audio, Pickled Egg, Radiotone, Peter I'm Flying, Moof, Trace Recordings and loads more (plus more to come). The sonomu marketplace enables small labels to manage their own shops via our secure credit card platform. Go buy! http://sonomu.net/shops/ And if you're a label and interested in joining the sonomu.net network please mail xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx or use the feedback form found on the site. thanks susanna From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:02:18 +0200 From: cjitter <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: KLANGMASCHINE - conexi=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=n Chile @ Morpheus To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFE088A.C632%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT KLANGMASCHINE - conexión Chile @ Morpheus Club Morpheus Sábado 26 de Junio 2004 - de 22:00 a 3:00 h c / La Palma, 31 (Madrid) - Metro Tribunal Sala The Missión Cleind (Planta de abajo) Entrada 4 € sin consumición Organiza: Asociación CRC y F_ON (p) Colabora: Rotor y Morpheus +ifno: http://www.ccapitalia.net/crc  Uran (Audio Session)  Uran, natural de barcelona actualmente afincada en Madrid, es una apasionada coleccionista de música electrónica desde hace muchos años, y eso se refleja en la fina selección de temas de sus sesiones, un cocktail muy personal y original de "indietrónica", IDM, y las nuevas tendencias vanguardistas de la música digital. Entre sus apariciones como dj cabe destacar sus sesiones en After-Arco 2003, en Oui, Less y en Experimentaclub03.  Receptor (Live)  Jorge Cortés viene de Santiago de Chile, desde donde dirige el sello de música electrónica Ojo de Apolo. Desde 1997 hasta el 2002 trabajó como Cáncer, desarrollando un cruce entre la intimación y sonidos pulsantes, acompañado de paisajes granulares. Destacar su ultimo trabajo, CD compartido con Ok Suitcase, editado en el sello portugués Crónica Electrónica, asà como sus actuaciones en el Goethe Institut (Chile), Hoerbar (Hamburgo) y el Museo de Ciencias Naturales de Buenos Aires.   Daoun | Producciones Nebula - Morpheus (Dj set)  Sus comienzos se remontan en esto de la música a mediados de los 80 cuando se ve influenciado por la electrónica mas pop.... Entre una cosa y otra empezó a maquinar con una MC 505 y un SP 808 [experimentar y componer músicas que sean propias era su objetivo], se reúne con un amigo y músico, Juan Alberto Navazo y llevan a cabo un proyecto llamado Fromm... Hoy dÃa sigue activo con trabajos en los que la mezcla de electro atmosférico con graves atronadores... En el 02-03 llevan a cabo Morpheus y lo enfocan al minimal-minimalhouse y electro... Actualmente Daoun forma parte de Producciones Nebula junto a Javier Olmos, siendo residente viernes y sábados noche en Morpheus [club con entrada gratuita de primera hora en Mission Cleimd].      From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:34:19 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [ot promotional] upcoming shows northeast usa To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: "will s." <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005501c45866$0181aa80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A)" --Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ????: ????? ???? 2oo4 upcoming shows will soderberg 26 june 2oo4 saturday nom d'artiste, boston, ma -w/kites, prurient, nmperign, white cocaine 27 june 2oo4 sunday strange maine, portland, me -w/idm theft able 28 june 2oo4 monday as220, providence, ri -w/comorevi butterfly, chaos character, mr. slugg and the legion of doom 29 june 2oo4 tuesday flywheel, easthampton, ma -w/univark, massacre of the dead, king darves 3o june 2oo4 wednesday lucky cat, brooklyn, ny -w/astro-cusion, jeff arnal/daniel carter duo, this spy surfs 1-2 july 2oo4 friday-saturday nyc? [i am open for suggestions] 3 july 2oo4 saturday the red room at normals books and records, baltimore, md -w/(3 drummers) dan breen, bob wagner, and a mystery guest 4 july 2oo4 sunday garfield artworks, pittsburgh, pa -w/x-13, 8cylinder http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml (shows) http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ (mp3s) http://white-rose.net/sounds.html (catalog) "an eclectic individual, will soderberg, is part of an ever evolving collective of musicians and sound makers. playing under various guises and making lots of racket, he has been exploring the outer limits of sound and music for over a decade. on this night he will be using a laptop, guitar and various electronics to conjure up bone rattling sounds of ghosts in the rafters." "gnarly, crude-analog-electro, michigan style -- with occasional guitar/laptop entering the fold." the animal snatches the whip from its master and whips itself so as to become master, and does not know that all this is only a fantasy caused by a new knot in the master's whiplash ~kafka --Boundary_(ID_6thN5e2LZgVPrV65oZEh0A)-- From Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at the bottom of this message -- aaron ----------[ Quiet American presents at 964 Natoma ]-------------------- Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two Friday, June 25th ~ doors 8pm 964 Natoma, San Francisco, CA (USA) $6-10 requested sliding donation, no one turned away for lack of funds. ----> Event Description <---------------------------------------------- The Field Effects series showcase the use of found sound, found materials, and field recordings in media art, presented in a uniquely comfortable environment. For this show, we will listen to contemporary prepared compositions (otherwise known as 'tape music') from four American sound artists and composers. Three of the artists will be on hand to present and discuss their work in person. Field Effects 19 features work from composers: maggi payne http://www.mills.edu/music/mus_maggi.html phillip bimstein http://www.bimstein.com ellen band http://www.ellenband.com jen boyd Seating mostly on futons and our new flock of beanbags, to encourage comfortable deep listening. Drinks will be available on a donation- based honor system. With luck, someone will bake cookies. ----> Additional Info <----------------------------------------------- A full description of the artists and the work they will present: http://www.quietamerican.org/fe19.html About the series: http://www.fieldeffects.org This message is not for print distribution or advertising. This is a private event for friends, family and our community. Questions? Write xxxxx@xxxx.xxx From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:19:46 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [EVENT][Fri June 25] Field Effects 19: Tape Take Two To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFF4202.1F1B%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 6/22/04 11:16 PM, Aaron Ximm at xxxxx@xxxx.xxx wrote: > Hey folks. Per a suggestion on this list, for this announcement, I'm > trying a new strategy: the details of the performance can be found at > the event's page; I'm not quoting the full release here; The URL is at > the bottom of this message -- aaron congrats Aaron. We need more and more of these kind of intimate events! best regards Thanos From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:23:18 +0200 From: philippe-petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some guitar, minimal atmospheres... To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, idm - moderated <xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT in case some of you live in bruxelles and want to listen to some guitar, minimal atmospheres... 27. 06. 04 BiP_HOp Generation # 65 Bruxelles- RecyclArt ::: 18:00 to 22:00 Opak -1 + Foern + dj/xx@xxx-xxx.xxx would be nice to meet... all the best philippe http://www.bip-hop.com From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:53:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Abflug <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [review] Karri O. - Kids Used to Dream of... To: xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx_xx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Chilean magazine Loop (www.loop.cl) has published its review of Karri O.'s 'Kids Used to Dream of Becoming Astronauts' online. Check out the full review in Spanish and a quick English translation at http://www.loop.cl/comentarios.asp?cod=79321051141149775. Karri O., 'Kids Used to Dream of Becoming Astronauts', Abflug 2004 "Karri Ojanen is the label manager of the Finnnish Abflug imprint which was founded in 2003. His music exposes genres such as electronica, techno and minimal house. His electronic facet drinks of waters of Autechre and the Warp sound which is exemplified in his first cut 'Before'; with its timbres through keyboard notes and fractured rhythm. 'One Finger, Two Feet' shows his minimal house face with a hypnotic groove. 'Subconscious dub' has powerful bassdrums whose rhythmical techno takes us to a trance mood. The final cut 'No more Mondays' has got a gorgeous melody line with its bells like keyboard notes." - Guillermo Escudero / Loop Abflug www.abflugrec.com electronic music and video arts ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:59:35 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008d01c458f8$09874450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their global car site :::: The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from microsound field to be heard :::: http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) & Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com David Newman Audiobulb Records www.audiobulb.com From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:51:30 +0200 From: The Expert <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT great – now it's about time to forget all those worries about global players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't be as sad as it seems ... .... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones. please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door. brave new world. the expert (worried) > Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their > global > car site :::: > > The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music > genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from > microsound field to be heard :::: > > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape > > The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) > & > Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com > > David Newman > Audiobulb Records > www.audiobulb.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:02:23 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001601c45919$f2d24ee0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT I was'nt aware that Mercedes Benz had a poor record in terms of people, environment and culture. Do you have any significant examples... or are you dealing in a generalisation? ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Expert" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape great – now it's about time to forget all those worries about global players like Mercedes Benz: how they treat people, environment, and culture! as long as they put your track on a mix tape, the world can't be as sad as it seems ... .... what a laugh. and don't fool yourself with "reaching a different audience": as soon as MB gets feedback, future mixed tapes will be cleared of anything that doesn't appeal to those yuppies in their MB and SMART cars (incl. your own highly interesting releases). do you really think anyone chose those tracks because of their musical quality? it's because they're free (of charge), and that makes them a very cheap marketing tool to blind even the enlightened ones. please alter the creative commons-license a.s.a.p. to exclude those moneymoneymoneyheads from an evergrowing culture. shut the door. brave new world. the expert (worried) > Mercedes Benz have released a free to download mp3 mix tape on their > global > car site :::: > > The tape includes tracks poerating across a number of electronic music > genres - mostly idm & techno but there are elements & influences from > microsound field to be heard :::: > > http://www.mercedes-benz.com/mixedtape > > The current selection includes a track from He Can Jog (Erik Schoster) > & > Terry Ubrien from www.audiobulb.com > > David Newman > Audiobulb Records > www.audiobulb.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:42:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there was only a short description and a link that said "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:47:56 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <003d01c45931$12600a10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT do u have a popup blocker? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sijis.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spank-moose/canada day july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london > where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there > was only a short description and a link that said > "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:03:01 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <003001c45933$2efa8270$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes pop-up blocker needs to be switched off :::: ----- Original Message ----- From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Mercedes Benz mp3 Mix Tape > do u have a popup blocker? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.sijis.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > spank-moose/canada day > july 1st 2004 @ the foundry london > > > > > > where is the music/mp3 itself? when i looked, there > > was only a short description and a link that said > > "start special." when i clicked on it, the page just reloaded. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: ottawa venues/contacts? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT a shot in the dark from pino the frog... i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 and would love to play out there if i get the chance. so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. thanks, p ===== Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... :( On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: > a shot in the dark from pino the frog... > > i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 > and would love to play out there if i get the chance. > so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue > contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). > > sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. > > thanks, > > p > > > ===== > Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© > Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 > À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— > þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:44:03 -0400 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000301c45962$d22406e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... mike_north //*-----Original Message----- //*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] //*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM //*To: microsound //*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? //* //* //*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have //*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 //*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... //*:( //* //* //* //* //*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: //* //*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... //*> //*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 //*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. //*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue //*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). //*> //*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. //*> //*> thanks, //*> //*> p //*> //*> //*> ===== //*> Øä //* //*PnîÂáÃ`ÃŒgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=Ϩ_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )â€Ã¬Â¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© //*> Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#ÂÕ×k·#Ã6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 //*> À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWñïÚU¤IéѼž¹Ñmà Ãs //*è+ý5ÂE“)Ià ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºÂžët(‹qÙÄ Â¯–mÂè0%—ÃDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— //*> þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾 C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ //*> //*> ______________________________________________________________________ //*> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca //*> //*> --------------------------------------------------------------------- //*> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> website: http://www.microsound.org //*> //*> //* //*-------------------------------------- //*[neil adam wiernik aka naw] //* xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx //*[music available on] //* http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com //* http://www.pieheadrecords.com //* http://www.worthyrecords.com //* http://www.complot.ca //*[artist features] //* http://www.clevermusic.net //* http://www.newmusiccanada.com //* http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com //*-------------------------------------- //* //*--------------------------------------------------------------------- //*To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT that would be super cool michael... Im in montreal so small venues are always nice to me... neil.. On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote: > Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/still selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of...there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... > > mike_north > > //*-----Original Message----- > //*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] > //*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM > //*To: microsound > //*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? > //* > //* > //*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I have > //*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living only 2 > //*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... > //*:( > //* > //* > //* > //* > //*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: > //* > //*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... > //*> > //*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 > //*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. > //*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue > //*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). > //*> > //*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. > //*> > //*> thanks, > //*> > //*> p > //*> > //*> > //*> ===== > //*> Øä > //* > //*PnîÂáÃ`ÃŒgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=Ϩ_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )â€Ã¬Â¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© > //*> Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#ÂÕ×k·#Ã6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 > //*> À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWñïÚU¤IéѼž¹Ñmà Ãs > //*è+ý5ÂE“)Ià ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºÂžët(‹qÙÄ Â¯–mÂè0%—ÃDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— > //*> þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾 > C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ > //*> > //*> ______________________________________________________________________ > //*> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > //*> > //*> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > //*> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*> website: http://www.microsound.org > //*> > //*> > //* > //*-------------------------------------- > //*[neil adam wiernik aka naw] > //* xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx > //*[music available on] > //* http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > //* http://www.pieheadrecords.com > //* http://www.worthyrecords.com > //* http://www.complot.ca > //*[artist features] > //* http://www.clevermusic.net > //* http://www.newmusiccanada.com > //* http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > //*-------------------------------------- > //* > //*--------------------------------------------------------------------- > //*To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > //*website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -------------------------------------- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com -------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:32:55 -0500 From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT When I played in Ottawa it was at the SAW Gallery. Small venue but sounded pretty good. The people were amazing and had a nice turn out. I have heard that other people have played there as well. It might be worth a shot contacting them xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx good luck, Arden From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> that would be super cool michael... Im in montreal so small venues are always nice to me... neil.. On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Michael North wrote: >Hello I'm in/outside Ottawa and had been looking at setting up some gigs = here/there but got sidetracked selling my abode...still sorta sidetracked/s= till selling the house...anyway I'll forward some addresses that I know of.= =2E.there are some places to play here...mostly smaller venues.... > >mike_north > >//*-----Original Message----- >//*From: Neil Wiernik [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx] >//*Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:01 PM >//*To: microsound >//*Subject: Re: [microsound] ottawa venues/contacts? >//* >//* >//*if you can pass along the info once you got it that would be cool I ha= ve >//*been tring to find out the same info for some time my self (living onl= y 2 >//*hrs away I often would like to play ottawa...) but to no luck... >//*:( >//* >//* >//* >//* >//*On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Patrick Valiquet wrote: >//* >//*> a shot in the dark from pino the frog... >//*> >//*> i'm going to be in ottawa, on (canada) july 28-august4 >//*> and would love to play out there if i get the chance. >//*> so i'm looking for performance opportunities/venue >//*> contacts in ottawa (or possibly montreal). >//*> >//*> sorry if i've annoyed anyone. please reply off list. >//*> >//*> thanks, >//*> >//*> p _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades]" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that, > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building blocks and they even have a GUI. If there aren't enough it's only because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things. Keep in mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can always dig in and adapt to your own needs. > This > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce > efforts. Developers or users? > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want. I don't think so. In fact Miller has started an effort of porting some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing. Some of the components (if not most) were ready to reuse. Blame IRCAM for not allowing access to such great resource. OTOH, I doubt David Z., the cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules. Other people do that. But then, I don't know jack... i might be wrong. The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and some users started providing some goodies. Stay tuned. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] sound programming" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:10:52 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sound programming To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> writes: > alexey [eggnot] grishenko wrote: > > im interesting in such kind of environment, or maybe program > > language, there posible to operate with sound like usual > > programming. where samples and effects can be used like a functions. > > Look at SuperCollider [linux,mac], CSound [linux,mac,pc], Pure Data > [linux,mac,pc] or MAX/MSP [mac,pc]. SuperCollider and CSound will most > resemble a "traditional" programming environment, as they are > text-only and commandline-operated at the core. Pure Data, MAX/MSP and > the various GUIs written for SuperCollider [mac only] and CSound give > a more graphical approach to programming and use. Also, worth checking out: Common Lisp Music, snd (sound editor which can be scripted with scheme or ruby and and then the user has all CLM power at his disposal) and Nyquist. They're all multiplatform to some extent. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Visiting Vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:40:09 -0700 From: Biagio Azzarelli <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Visiting Vancouver To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <000201c4597b$6da8e050$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello listites, I'm out in Vancouver from June 30th - July 7th and hoping to catch some live music. Haven't visited before and want to see what the city has to offer. Anyone know of any shows or experimental music spaces? Any thing else of interest would be great to know about as well (eg. museums, bldgs, bridges). thanks, Biagio Azzarelli xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="MOTHER2 online now!" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:55:16 +0200 From: "ma_hovina : : :" <xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: MOTHER2 online now! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFFE504.353%xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg)" --Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'm soooooo proud to announce: MOTHER2 (macos adios!) is online now! it took quite long to release it, with some small and some bigger problems, but it's here now ready for you to download and enjoy! i asked atom one year ago to contribute the 2nd mother-list compilation again, this time totaly different from the 1st MOTHER. the story goes like this: atom sent me his track, based on several samples only, and he sent me these samples too. the mother-list members got the samples only and made their own track out of them, without listening to the atom's track before. and the deal was to use only these samples and nothing else. well, what came out is amazing! it's so great to listen to the different styles made of very few and very thiny samples, some of mother-members didn't make anything because it was too thiny for them (miguel ruiz, i'm sorry you didn't try it!) but the ones who did it, did a really great job. thank you guys!! you can find MOTHER @ http://atom-heart.com/mother i have updated the 1st compilation too, so please if you have linked it on your site change that! use the address above, this is the only one that will not change. and one more thing: until 1st of july you'll find zip files of the hi quality versions of both of compilations. 192kbps AAC files inside (which sounds something like 224kbps mp3 compression) (you'll need iTunes or QuickTime to listen to it.) tracklisting MOTHER2 01 PERNOW vorspann 5:35 02 ATOM align alyn 2:50 03 THE SCHMIDTS bahnweg 1.0 4:06 04 PHONAUT atomaticomposition #2 3:17 05 HELEMANU get out destroy 1:37 06 CONCAV:MBB wechselwirkungen subatomarer teilchen 3:25 07 JET JAGUAR creta 3:53 08 DEVNULL "ab"* 3:35 09 JIM PASCOE tone garden 2:16 10 PELAX [12]bit plot 4:35 11 BAD LAND FARMERS mor mi 3:25 12 MA_HOVINA ma_dre 1:40 13 HELEMANU don helemanu 4:00 14 SF engine.cxt 5:18 15 JON McMILLION demo2 5:18 tracklisting MOTHER1 01 CODEC echoface 5:21 02 ECM coward 5:51 03 [AMB] monofluor (version pharmacoustique) 4:03 04 CONCAV:MBB das baukastenprinzip 5:35 05 SF reduktase 2:47 06 ~CTENE atomdoorstop 3:17 07 MIGUEL A. RUIZ corporal ticket 4:24 08 PHONAUT spacemaker (beatbox edit) 3:58 09 JON McMILLION true blue 3:21 10 MA_HOVINA g. s. u p. materinu 0:58 11 ATOMdigital listening (edit 2001) 4:06 12 FINGERPRINCE + BHANG krassimir's digital breakfast 4:30 13 CRE-8unanswered prayers 3:55 14 NE9LECT du sable sur ta peau 3:40 : : : enjoy but safely =: : : : http://atom-heart.com --Boundary_(ID_3YNke8qaeBOjeWDoeeTztg)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="dalai lama / vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: dalai lama / vancouver To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xx.x.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xx.x.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, A while ago a message was sent to this list concerning a sound installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to Vancouver. I'm wondering if anyone knows if this installation actually came together-- I sent in some material to be used for it, but I emailed the address to inquire about it and got no response. Thanks, Mike Hallenbeck http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] dalai lama / vancouver" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Hannesson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] dalai lama / vancouver To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I was at the show/installation (helped out as well). It went great, awesome venue, cool sounds. There were a few who braved the cold and rainy weather, but all seemed to enjoy the experience. I will pass your email on to the organizer. Mark Hannesson --- xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > Hi all, > > A while ago a message was sent to this list > concerning a sound > installation honoring the Dalai Lama's visit to > Vancouver. I'm wondering > if anyone knows if this installation actually came > together-- I sent in > some material to be used for it, but I emailed the > address to inquire > about it and got no response. > > Thanks, > Mike Hallenbeck > http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Taking electronic remainders and the errors produced in DSP Click here: http://mx.geocites.com/justburagain JUANJOSERIVASZUÑIGA [Radical Technology] <mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> < --Boundary_(ID_xd6hvr4vVZejH7dWirMq/A)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="spycasts and wilco" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:09:28 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: spycasts and wilco To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BCFFBE28.10FAD%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7 --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] spycasts and wilco" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: m mouth <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] spycasts and wilco To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KJwn4/rJW0Owf/PufgUTtA)" --Boundary_(ID_KJwn4/rJW0Owf/PufgUTtA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit talking of which..... http://www.sijis.com http://www.sijis.com/radioarchive.php Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63952,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_7 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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To: xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <011501c459bd$5555bdb0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw)" --Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is a notice to all that are interested, you can now purchase the currentarray t-shirt line on the current recordings website. www.current-recordings.com (on the catalog page) anyone that purchases the entire line (one of each design) will receive the new j.frede/scanner CD free of charge. for anyone that didnt catch the last post about the line,, heres the details. currentarray was created to bring you prints from composers working in the field of computer, microsound and lowercase music. many of the composers for the series you will be familiar with, some are lesser know, but none the less promising acts working in sound and design. when choosing the artists for the series we considered just that, composers whom also work as designers. each season will bring three new prints, from three different artists. each print will only be available for a short time in a very limited run of 50 pieces. printed on the highest quality t-shirts. each design will be sold in sizes (men's) small - medium - large summer.2004 brings us steve roden http://inbetweennoise.com (trente oiseaux, sirr, line/12k) janek schaefer http://www.audiOh.com (sub rosa, fat cat records, audiOh!) john hudak http://www.johnhudak.net (alluvial Recordings, intransitive recordings, and-oar) www.current-recordings.com also available June 30th, the new j.frede/scanner cd titled "j.frede rewrites scanners diary" out on current recordings, preview audio clips can be heard on the site. --Boundary_(ID_Y5uabdqeT1oSIair75LEcw)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Algorithmic sound" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:34:27 -0400 From: marc lafia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Algorithmic sound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0050A3.9B1%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.r4nd.org/info.html I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list. I have been listening for several hours. A brief description below. I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up soon. ml June 23, 2004 Movin' with rand()% Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore, whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player. Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time; in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Generative Sounds" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:44:15 -0400 From: marc lafia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Generative Sounds To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD0052EF.9B7%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.r4nd.org/info.html I would be curious to hear thoughts about this work on the list. I have been listening for several hours. A brief description below. I have been working on something similar for image and hope to get it up soon. ml June 23, 2004 Movin' with rand()% Every night, I dream of a vast machine. It eternally shuffles quantum states; it churns all the integers of a complex equilibrium. It's sound that is at the same time landscape; pure extension and span. This condition has persisted for weeks, and I blame it on artists Tom Betts and Joe Gilmore, whose rand()% project seems to have commandeered my RealOne Player. Commissioned by Huddersfield England's Media Centre Network, this internet radio station devotes itself entirely to generative and algorithmically mediated music. Every program rand()% plays is composed afresh in real time; in essence, it's a soundbot. With talents like Itialian digital artist Lia and late German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen in the mix, I'm finding it very hard to sleep. - Lewis LaCook --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:56:16 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDICEHCCMAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g)" --Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageSymbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Headphones recommended 12am - 2am Sunday nights (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I hope this week's email finds you all well... things are finally coming together again after a busy start to the year. This Sunday 27th I will be joined by: - Michael Graeve (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/adlib/stories/s855925.htm) to chat about his performance piece at Australian Culture Now (http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/whatson/whatson_eventlist.jsp?locationID=3&eventI D=206). - Brendan Palmer to chat about Environ, held monthly on the first Sunday at Loop (http://www.environline.net/) (second one coming up on 4th). Coming Soon: 4th July: J.Frede joins me on the phone from Los Angeles to talk about his new collaboration with Scanner, j.frede rewrites scanner's diary (see: www.current-recordings.com and www.jfrede.com) In the pipeline: Monthly label features, exclusive Sub Rosa mix, Liquid Architecture 5 features Until next week... Simon. -------------------------------------------- Show From Date: 20/6/04 Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label Loscil :: argonaut :: Submers :: Kranky Vs_Price :: dither :: <calin>minette_ :: Expanding Records B. Fleischmann :: chad f :: Pop Loops For Breakfast :: Morr Music Ultra-Red :: N30 :: Below Code :: Comatonse Ga-Ne-Tli-Yv-S-Di :: solar diazinon (drone mix) :: I-Celestial-Insect :: Doctsect Mika Vainio :: motel :: In The Land Of The Blind One-Eyed Is King :: Touch Gabrielle Proy :: lagom :: Hearing Place :: Move Christopher Willits :: stomata :: Pollen :: Fallt Full Swing :: autopoieses. c[ ] edit :: edits :: Orthlorng Musork C.Rosenau / J.Schoenecker / J.Warchol :: history erased :: Allegorical Power Dec 03 :: Antiopic Kid606 :: powerbookfiend :: Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You :: Ipecac Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out for no. 1 :: 60 Sound Artists Protest The War :: Atak Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab Anthony Pateras :: transmutations iv :: Mutant Theatre :: Tsadik Super_Collider :: bug trackin :: Raw Digits :: Rise Robots Rise F.Duck :: dither :: CDR from artist Joel Stern :: saltwort :: Overland :: Naturestrip Mugen :: 25 october live @ fabrica Pt. 1 :: Term 10 :: 12k Oval :: store check :: 94diskont :: Thrill Jockey Takagi Masakatsu :: re pia 1 :: Opus Pia :: Carpark The Phonographers Union :: 7 :: Live On Sonarchy Radio :: Accretions ----------------------- To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --Boundary_(ID_PdBFsMd+0pArp4biVA/R7g)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="german headphone festival update" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:42:27 +0200 From: triPhaze <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: german headphone festival update To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <002101c45a1b$010d9260$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA)" --Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PRIVATELEKTRO Headphone Festival II - 2004 JULY 23rd + 24th to keep anyone informed about the forthcoming event of the year - privatelektro´s two day headphone streaming festival in july - we launched a special website: ***************** http://www.headphone-festival.de ******************** there will be a lot of new stuff in the next weeks (technical description so you can easily receive the stream, news about the schedule etc), so check for updates regularly to keep informed. besides all facts about this year´s concert and all technical aspects we included a VERY HUGE AMOUNT OF DOWNLOADS as a documentation of what happened last year at the same place.: THE DOWNLOADS: VIDEO "headphone festival 2003 - the movie" a 25 minute documentation film by ALIAS (www.1-sein.de), featuring excerpts from the live concerts, impressions from the receiving spot at GFZK Leipzig and lots of behind the scenes - footage (chatting, drinking beer and playing with knobs. you´ll love it!). download .wma (low-res): http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_wmv_001.wmv download .avi (divX, hi-res): http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_video/03_headphone_avi_001.avi THE DOWNLOADS: MUSIC http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set02_deadfishaudio.mp3 ARTIST: Dead Fish Audio TITEL: Electro Dub FILE-SIZE: 75.407 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set03_parachute.mp3 ARTIST: Parachute TITEL: Drone Cliczzz Ambient FILE-SIZE: 70.762 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set08_triphaze.mp3 ARTIST: triPhaze TITEL: Kleines Glück im Grünen FILE-SIZE: 89.563 KB ---------------------- http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set11_tichy.mp3 ARTIST: Tichy TITEL: Licht FILE-SIZE: 47.350 KB ------------------ http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_set12_elektroschmidt.mp3 ARTIST: Elektroschmidt TITEL: The Great Elektronic Review FILE-SIZE: 131.718 KB ---------------- http://www.headphone-festival.de/download/03_mp3/03_headphone_setbonus_elektroschmidt_alias_c_drive.mp3 ARTIST: Elektroschmidt vs Alias vs C:\ TITEL: N.A. FILE-SIZE: 17.855 KB +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OTHER INFO: * triPhaze is doing well on his big tour through Europe (making music for animals). There will be first pics @ www.privatelektro.de soon. * Still hot: our brand new compilation cd "a monumental struggle of good vs. evil". Get your copy @ www.dust-dbugger.de. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ greetz from germany and elsewhere! stay strong and love! cabels and sounds.. ............................................................................................................................................................... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::cd compilation: pe_cd 06::: out ::NOW::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: .......::::::::::::::::::::::....... a monumental struggle of good vs. evil .......................................................... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.::::: http://www.privatelektro.de :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ................................................................................................................................................................ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::together:::::we::::are:::::strong!:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: --Boundary_(ID_1srgnkyXXz1fEtg1JvQ8uA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="4 JUILLET 2004 \"POUR LES OISEAUX \"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:01:37 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: 4 JUILLET 2004 "POUR LES OISEAUX " To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <021d01c45a1d$ad6e3990$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA)" --Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit - www.postair.net - english version below -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS DIMANCHE 4 JUILLET 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE LILLE - FRANCE DE 15H00 A 22H00 ENTREE GRATUITE LIVE : POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN] SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES] PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE] JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE] BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE] TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE] POSTAIR vous invite à la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille pour un parcours des sens avec 6 concerts de musique électronique ambiante et une installation architecturale imaginée par STEL. La MISE EN SON est garantie de très haute définition grâce à un dispositif d'enceintes acoustiques modulaires. En métro : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. En voiture : suivre direction « Lille centre », Parking sous-terrain Place de la République. Personnes à mobilité réduite : accès par le boulevard de la Liberté En cas de mauvaises conditions météorologiques, les concerts se dérouleront à l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts de Lille (Auditorium). L'accès à la terrasse s'effectue par l'intérieur du Palais des Beaux-Arts. Ce jour là, la visite du musée est gratuite pour tous. + d'infos sur : www.postair.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RENDEZ VOUS RENDEZ VOUS SUNDAY, 4th JULY 2004 POUR LES OISEAUX PALAIS DES BEAUX ARTS - TERRASSE (OPEN AIR) LILLE - FRANCE from 3PM to 10PM FREE ENTRANCE LIVE : POLE [SCAPE (All.) - BERLIN] SI-CUT.DB [BIP-HOP (F.) - LONDRES] PHILIPPE CAM [TRAUM (All.) - LE HAVRE] JONAS BERING [KOMPAKT (All.) - LILLE] BERN [TRAUM (All.) - LILLE] TEZ [POSTAIR (F.) - LILLE] POSTAIR invites you to la terrasse du Palais des Beaux-Arts in Lille for a sensitive summer afternoon with 6 electronic ambient gigs and a special architectural structure concepted by STEL. Very high quality of sound is guaranted by an advanced modular acoustic system. Subway : ligne 1 - station République/Beaux-Arts. By car : follow « Lille centre ». Underground parking : Place de la République. Handicapped people : accessibility at Boulevard de la Liberté entrance In case of bad weather, gigs will happen inside the museum at the auditorium. Access to the venue is through the main entrance of the museum. This day, entrance is free also for visiting the museum. more infos : www.postair.net --Boundary_(ID_p1CUjuR/Muofa0IcW2P9dA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="just testing" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:07:35 +0100 From: murray <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: just testing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT please ignore, this just a test 'cause my mail keeps bouncing. best murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Hampson" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: "Microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis Playlist - 20/6/04 > MessageSymbiosis > > Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms > Headphones recommended > > 12am - 2am Sunday nights > (1pm - 3pm Sunday afternoon GMT) > > > Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm > (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) > > 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia > Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au > > Symbiosis > c/o Triple R > PO Box 304 > Fitzroy, VIC 3068 > Australia > > xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > > presented by Simon Hampson > > -------------------------------------------- > > Hi everyone, > > I hope this week's email finds you all well... things are finally coming > together again after a busy start to the year. > > This Sunday 27th I will be joined by: > - Michael Graeve (http://www.abc.net.au/arts/adlib/stories/s855925.htm) to > chat about his performance piece at Australian Culture Now > (http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/whatson/whatson_eventlist.jsp?locationID=3&eventI > D=206). > > - Brendan Palmer to chat about Environ, held monthly on the first Sunday at > Loop (http://www.environline.net/) (second one coming up on 4th). > > Coming Soon: > > 4th July: J.Frede joins me on the phone from Los Angeles to talk about his > new collaboration with Scanner, j.frede rewrites scanner's diary (see: > www.current-recordings.com and www.jfrede.com) > > In the pipeline: Monthly label features, exclusive Sub Rosa mix, Liquid > Architecture 5 features > > Until next week... > > Simon. > -------------------------------------------- > > Show From Date: 20/6/04 > > Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label > > > Loscil :: argonaut :: Submers :: Kranky > > Vs_Price :: dither :: <calin>minette_ :: Expanding Records > > B. Fleischmann :: chad f :: Pop Loops For Breakfast :: Morr Music > > Ultra-Red :: N30 :: Below Code :: Comatonse > > Ga-Ne-Tli-Yv-S-Di :: solar diazinon (drone mix) :: I-Celestial-Insect :: > Doctsect > > Mika Vainio :: motel :: In The Land Of The Blind One-Eyed Is King :: Touch > > Gabrielle Proy :: lagom :: Hearing Place :: Move > > Christopher Willits :: stomata :: Pollen :: Fallt > > Full Swing :: autopoieses. c[ ] edit :: edits :: Orthlorng Musork > > C.Rosenau / J.Schoenecker / J.Warchol :: history erased :: Allegorical Power > Dec 03 :: Antiopic > > Kid606 :: powerbookfiend :: Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You :: Ipecac > > Aoki Takamasa :: who's next? mr. bill will come and kill you to look out for > no. 1 :: 60 Sound Artists Protest The War :: Atak > > Kenneth Kirschner :: june 18 2002 :: January 2, 1999 et al :: Conv Net.Lab > > Anthony Pateras :: transmutations iv :: Mutant Theatre :: Tsadik > > Super_Collider :: bug trackin :: Raw Digits :: Rise Robots Rise > > F.Duck :: dither :: CDR from artist > > Joel Stern :: saltwort :: Overland :: Naturestrip > > Mugen :: 25 october live @ fabrica Pt. 1 :: Term 10 :: 12k > > Oval :: store check :: 94diskont :: Thrill Jockey > > Takagi Masakatsu :: re pia 1 :: Opus Pia :: Carpark > > The Phonographers Union :: 7 :: Live On Sonarchy Radio :: Accretions > > ----------------------- > To Unsubscribe from future Symbiosis mailings please email: > xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx > ----------------------- > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[test] ignore this msg..." Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:29:54 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [test] ignore this msg... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT sorry for the interference. --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="WDET Mutek Satellite program www.wdetfm.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:35:38 -0400 From: sr_ thinkbox <xx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: WDET Mutek Satellite program www.wdetfm.org To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: xx@xxxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT THINKBOX ON WDET We are proud to be participating in radio presenter/DJ Liz Copeland's Mutek Satellite program. Mutek Satellite is an exclusive, weekly dose of on-the-spot interviews with Liz Copeland and Montreal's Mutek festival performers Thinkbox, Isolée, Andrew Weatherall, Aeroc and Matthew Herbert. Interviews take place every Thursday night/Friday morning in the 0100 hour EST for the duration of the five-week mini-series, as follows: Thursday night/Friday morning, June 25th: Thinkbox (Canada/USA) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 2nd: Isolée (Germany) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 9th: Andrew Weatherall (Sabres of Paradise/Two Lone Swordsmen) (UK) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 16th: Aeroc (AKA Geoff White) (USA/Spain) Thursday night/Friday morning, July 23rd: Matthew Herbert (UK) You can listen to the program streaming live on the web at WDET's web site www.wdetfm.org. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000 From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i was wondering if anyone can help: - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? thank you so much. reqards. by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne, australia.. please blip me off-list. same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist replied. users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:37:56 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c45aa8$dc29d0b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You might find this useful: http://snipurl.com/7btr Visa ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon" <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement > i was wondering if anyone can help: > > - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? > - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) > amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? > > thank you so much. > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:53:55 +0100 From: Owen Green <x.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT jon wrote: > i was wondering if anyone can help: > > - what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? That's a huge question :) Broadly (assuming a stereo setup): - Your listening position should form an equilateral triangle with your monitors, with 1-2m between you and them. - Your montiors should be aiming straight at your ears, preferably on the same plane, but you can angle them from above. - The monitors should be some distance from the wall behind them (>1m), or completely flush with it. - Small (i.e. most) rooms will have problems with standing waves at some low frequencies, creating peaks and troughs in the frequency response. This can be helped with some absorption on the walls behind the montiors and behind you (a sofa behind you is quite good at absorbsing LF). Stereo imaging can be helped with absorption on the side walls. YMMV, natch. There's a bundle of stuff on the web :) > - is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) > amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? Quite possibly, try it and see. It's also quite possible, depending on what bits of the amp jut out where, that you will experience reflections from the amp that will affect your listening experince (mastering engineer Bob Katz argues against the common practice of placing nearfilds on the top of the console for this reason, reccomending instead that, if needed, one sets the speakers up at right angles to the console and puts up with indignity of turning round to listen / tweak in return for letting the monitors do their job). hth Owen --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:57:27 +0200 From: xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx Subject: RE: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello i suggest easi near 5 studio monitor field referrenced - low budget perfect for home recording.... cheers gianluca >-- Messaggio originale -- >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> > From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:47:27 +1000 >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: [microsound] [ot/tech] monitor placement > > >i was wondering if anyone can help: > >- what's the best placement for nearfield monitor speakers? >- is there any issue with placing a speaker right on top of a (hi-fi) >amp? will it cause problems? does this depend on shielding? > >thank you so much. > >reqards. > >by the way, if anyone knows of an available studio space in melbourne, >australia.. please blip me off-list. >same for anyone who thinks the above topic deserves to be offlist >replied. > > >users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="mainstream microsounders/samplers?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Adverbialsensationalist <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: mainstream microsounders/samplers? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA)" --Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA) Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all, i am rather new to list, and found microsound just a short yr ago approximately, but love every aspect of it completely. i guess once you are consumed by a passion such as sound, all else in life begins to suffer somewhat, as i have found myself constantly yearning to experiment in any way i possibly can. anyway, i appreciate the conversations that come from this list. i may be a little off asking this but i am just curious of what you all think concerning artists such as geoff white (edit, perlon ?, force inc), or dino felipe (schematics) for instance? now these artists to my understanding produce a more commercialised form of microsound/sampling if i may state my opinion. i guess what i am really trying to ask is, if these artists are considered microsounders due to the production methods they use and the result they get, by this list rather than just by the media? or are the methods they utilise and the result achieved, not acceptable by microsounders? and if so or if not, explain your opinion please. and if you have better things to do than waste time asnwering my petty question, i understand completely, just ignore this post then please. thanks... dom --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! --Boundary_(ID_MsRCU5imk4p2IFnLGgx3DA)-- --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="[ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:07:52 -0700 From: lim <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [ot] data recovery To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. thanks a bunch for your time, lim;. --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:04:15 +0200 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000501c45b75$b44182f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Have you tried the software recovery solutions? "Easy Recovery" is one and there is another one which I can't remember right now, but I used it to get back approx. 100Gb of files from a formatted and partly overwritten drive... To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY expensive and time consuming. I must say good luck anyway, hope it works out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lim" <xxx_xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: [microsound] [ot] data recovery > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. > > thanks a bunch for your time, > lim;. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:38:12 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Joakim Lindén wrote: > To ask a company to extract the data physically would probably be VERY VERY > expensive and time consuming. If the drive still works, you might be able to use some commercial recovery software, some kind of forensics program, or even to mount the drive READONLY with a Linux live CD and recover data that way. Look for a Unix utility called "dd" and read the docs. If the drive is kaput, then most of these companies start over a grand and work up from there, depending on how much data. Is your data worth a grand? I called one of these places up here in Holland once, and after choking when I heard the price tag, asked for some advice. The guy told me that what they usually do is simply get an identical model of harddrive and transplant the drive controller chip from the new one to the broken one. 90% of the time, that will get the drive running so that the data can be extracted. Requires some skill in soldering, of course, as well as a throw-away drive, and doesn't deal with any physical damage to the disk clusters themselves you might have, but it's how the pros do it. good luck, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 168: "Use fewer notes" --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:29:31 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] data recovery To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD039B3B.920E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT A friend of mine has paid 1000€ for recovering an hard disk, if you want I can check the name of the company to prevent this situation I suggest you to have an external hard disk where you can make daily back up > before i go digging around on my own i just wanted to ask if anyone knows of > or could recommend (off-list) any reliable data recovery companies in the > us...my laptop.s hard-drive failed yesterday, and i was unable to recover > any of my work before i think it went entirely...right now i.m just really > afraid of losing three months of work since my last full backup. > > thanks a bunch for your time, > lim;. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 10:06:28 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: microsound refrigerators? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD02FB24.2024A%xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:55:41 -0700 From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <032c01c45baf$311969d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. j.frede ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:07:52 -0700 From: "Rudolph A. Carrera" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT j.frede wrote: >i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. > >j.frede > > > > > >>http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html >> >> >> >> > > > If they can actually get this thing marketed, I've a feeling it'll be a success. I'd be delighted to buy one of those! Best, Rudy --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:10:32 +0200 From: heribert friedl <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c45bb1$416fee10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, just nice fridge tracks http://www.mego.at/mego001.html lg, heri ----------------------------------- HERIBERT FRIEDL LANGACKERGASSE 37 A-1190 WIEN www.nonvisualobjects.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.frede" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > i just read this article this morning as well,, so crazy. > > j.frede > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:06 AM > Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? > > > > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="RE: [microsound] microsound refrigerators?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:53:43 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Wow - that's a nice concept but it got me wondering.. what if the seals failed?? I mean the amount of noise that would escape.. certainly wouldn't be microsound anymore :) Simon. Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Sunday nights, 12am - 2am 102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au Melbourne, Australia xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 3:06 AM To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] microsound refrigerators? http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,642991,00.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="prayer field recordings" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:14:13 -0700 From: kathy kennedy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: prayer field recordings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I've been on this list for quite a while. And finally I'm posting with a request. I'm looking for 60 sec. max mp3 or aiff format audio recordings of people of any faith praying, but only in whispers. I realize the philosophical implications of using this kind of field recording are deep and complex. I'm using it for a composition made entirely of unvocalized utterances. Feel free to contact me off list about it. thanks, Kathy http://www.kathykennedy.ca --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ) Content-Type: message/rfc822; Name="Chicago/August?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:32:06 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Chicago/August? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <BD039BD6.651B%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, Does anyone know of any happenings in Chicago for the month of August? Also, If anyone can recommend any record stores or galleries that would be nice too. And, I'm always available for any performances;-) best, omnid --Boundary_(ID_91P4dEZUnQh8JBmE0UdlcQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 13:07:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30705-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61569 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:07:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 61559 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:07:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:03:44 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 94 References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx "Tjeerd Sietsma" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> writes: > Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. > PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. No it's not a finished product. And Miller Puckette insists that it's 'experimental sofwtare'. That also means that many things may change in the design... for better or for worse... > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. It is true that some externs can cause crashes and headakes. But this was the case with MaxMSP as well. In fact, when MSP layer was added it was it that cased the most havoc. People still bought it and were happy. I don't understand why most people are happy with buggy software if they pay for it while they whine when it's free... Don't take it personally, I'm just generalizing and thinking out ASCII. On the other hand I'm not even sure if what I'm saying applies to today's MaxMSP. I haven't used it in years (but I did have seen it crash in some life performances....). > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. Ah. That's whole different story. A lot of patches have been provided by the community over the years. Keep in mind that pd has a smaller user community and hasn't been around for so long. Some users have started making some abstractions to make the whole thing more user-friendly for the newcommers: frank Barknecht's RRadical project: http://puredata.info/community/projects/rradical/RRADicalWiki David McCullum's abstractions: http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html and here you will find pdjimmies (jimmies port) by Zack Settel: http://tot.sat.qc.ca/fra/nslam.html There are probably others around. But these should get you started. On the other hand, I think that the point of using pd is to roll your own, but I do agree that having a collection of patches around is good so that you don't reeinvent the wheel. > > > BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? > Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally > you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take > longer. as I said above... but i don't think that lack of patches = incomplete functionnality. PD is fully functionnal and its function is to allow you to program your own patches and offer you the tools and fexibility to do it. There maybe some flaws with some solutions but it is a very capable system. > Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer > PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) I, too I'm waiting for the port :).... GPL'd :-) > I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all > software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also > remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would > have saved me days. ok, well, the documentation lacks certain details. But it is fairly complete. You can learn a lot about programming with pd if you read the manual and study the examples and help files. this is, btw, the way one learns MaxMSP (if one does not want to simply dive into ready-made solutions provided with the package). > I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden > are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most > people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. Yeah. The thing is that I started using Linux because I wanted to get away from the mainstream apps :) I'm sorry but sometimes I assume that everyone else wants to do just that, although I know I'm wrong. cheers -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:43:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30704-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57057 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:43:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 57047 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:43:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:43:55 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: >>>Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. >> >>What is a professional audio tool? Are you talking about sound >>quality? Or eye candy? Or the aboundance of ready made solutions? > > what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many > advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. - Csound does this for me since ages on virtually all platforms - Pure-Data - SMS There was once this package but it seems to be morphed into a library called Clam, got to dig it myself. The lack of instrument editors are obvious but on the other hand and according to the sales of the instrumentmanufacturer I like to ask, if they still needed. People starting now from the ground prefer using software and should get themself decent controling hardware. The only point I dislike frankly in Linux is the lack of many drivers but as said before its not the Linux comunity to be blamed, its the manifacturers with their close-source-no-documentation-paranoia mentality. Just to add some aspects and thoughts, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next event/ lecture: pure-data workshop 24.-25. july BEK, Bergen, Norway new releases: elektronengehirn softwareart on cdr magazine tinah#2: http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:38:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30702-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53829 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 53816 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:41:17 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. > PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. > It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those > sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. > Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, > because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > > >>BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? > > Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally > you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take > longer. People like Frank Barknecht and myself [from time to time] are busy building end-user "applications" in PD as educatinal tools, but I really prefer building things from low-level objects rather than cobbling together all the ready-made "blackboxes" in Max/MSP. It was a reason I disliked Reaktor so much: when I wanted to use a granulator, they had one or two "granulator objects" which you could send parameters to, but no way of getting inside the object to chnage its basic function. So I build my own in PD, and know exactly how they work and what I can change on the most basic levels. This way, I feel that the sound I make is my own creation, and not that I'm just twiddling someone else's buttons. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:38:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30703-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54695 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 54685 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:38:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:38:28 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[nord modular + roland] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: om1645dGZlCGG7NQ8DO0Cg 1087389508 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > As someone who is switching to Linux, I > am sure you'll appreciate it as well... You too are right :) I guess I wasn't informed well enough. Looks like microsound is actually paying me off ;) > > Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage. I'll sure give it a try. If anything else fails I can always use Windows on a worn-out P2, but this solution will be even better. Now I have to find a way to get everyting working with USB. Last time I tried for two weeks and didn't get the RME Multiface to work properly, but that has changed too. (some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and free/open source editor. >sdasdasd > http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/ That sounds cool but on the other hand (playing the devils advocate now) they already have a finished editor for windows and mac that works fine. But I'm encouraging this initiative for everybody switches to Linux someday, if governments like the European one don't do nasty things with software patents. > > Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules. > > http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi Nice, but most modern PC notebooks exchanged a serial port for USB ports.. perhaps someone should buy the developers a pizza and a beer. > The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source > developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software This company already did everything they could to serve their target area. They just didn't include the Linux community. Nor did they include BeOS or SGI users. If you want it, you have to make it yourself. And that is just what people do, because they can and for love for a product. The only thing you can hope for is that there will be enough volunteers to continue a project. But commercial companies also bring riscs. It's a matter of taste eventually. > for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting > development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware > market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye > and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or > software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance. Let me adjust my statement.. not _all_ professional hardware can be used under Linux. Hm... it's getting kinda lame with your text before mine.. So when will there be a Linux variant of Kyma for the Capybara? :) Greets, Tjeerd Sietsma electronic music student @ HKU Utrecht School of Arts, the Netherlands -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:26:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30701-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49736 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:26:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 49726 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:26:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:28:53 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[spectral morphing] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many > advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any > linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also > very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. FREQTWEAK FreqTweak is a tool for FFT-based realtime audio spectral manipulation and display. It provides several algorithms for processing audio data in the frequency domain and a highly interactive GUI to manipulate the associated filters for each. It also provides high-resolution spectral displays in the form of scrolling-raster spectrograms and energy vs frequency plots displaying both pre- and post-processed spectra. [Think: NI SPectral Delay!!!] http://freqtweak.sourceforge.net/ CERES3 Ceres3 is a cut-and-paste spectral editor with musically enhanced graphic control over spectral activity of a sound file. http://www.music.columbia.edu/~stanko/About_Ceres3.html SND Snd is a sound editor modelled loosely after Emacs and an old, sorely-missed PDP-10 sound editor named Dpysnd. It can accommodate any number of sounds each with any number of channels, and can be customized and extended using either Guile or Ruby. [Snd has some basic FFT operations that could be customized into user-defined spectral operations.] http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html and there are others.... d. ps...Tjeerd, I have written to several instructors at the HKU about doing an open source audio workshop there, all without reply. I live in Utrecht, just right around the corner so to speak. Why doesn't anybody @ HKU answer my emails, if there are students like you interested in Linux audio? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 202: "Back up a few steps. What else could you have done?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 12:09:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30700-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45884 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:09:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 45874 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:09:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:09:23 +0100 From: Tjeerd Sietsma <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Sasl-Enc: 4Kk8iOtIe8cpUqsAtx6F/w 1087387763 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx-x-xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Too bad there is no professional audio tool for linux yet, afaik. > What is a professional audio tool? Are you talking about sound > quality? Or eye candy? Or the aboundance of ready made solutions? what I meant was that basic functions are well supported, but many advanced functions are absent in programs. e.g. I don't know any linux-tool with which you can morph spectra. This of course could also very well mean that I'm not that good in browsing the internet. > > Rezound looks > > pretty neat, just like Audacity, but it just doesn't provide the needs > > of pro's. > > About 10 years ago I started using Sound Designer. It was caonsidered > a professional level sample editor. I think the 2 above mentioned > apps provide more functionnality. I don't think, however, that the > notion of professionalism changed radically in the past 10 years. Within a year or so I'll step into thesame profession as you do. Naturally the basic principles of our profession don't change, bus as technology evolves it gets extended all the time. > > E.g. you don't want to use it in a studio. > I have been in studios running Windoes. You don't want to you use it > in the studio. I could never understand how people were able to keep > PCs with windoes in the studio for other purposes than running > WordPerfect. I know only one Windows user who claims to have a stable > system and is able to manage an audio latency at around 10ms. > However, he lives much to far for me to actually go and check it out > because I find it hard to believe. My own experience with windows (I > tried the free version of ProTools and cakewalk 9.1, I believe) was > very disappointing. You're right when you say that win98 with crappy protools free doens't work well in a studio. Perhaps that's why digidesign quit with it. Today, Windows 2000 is stable enough for studio-use. Combined with an RME Hammerfall audio system I achieved a latency of 2x 1.5 ms (hardware) + 2ms latency (PureData) = 5 msec. latency from microphone to speaker. I've used this settings several times live. And in such a case it surely helps that you do not use your configuration for any other purpose than audio. > > Just like lovable PD it can > > do a lot > > but it isn't ready yet, PD's documentation is incomplete just like it's > > functio- > > nality. Developers spend most of the time getting it just to work. > Please, get in touch with reality. The developers are constantly > working on improving it. Yes, pd has flaws. So does commercial > software. The only difference is that if you find a bug or a flaw in > an open source software there is a very strong chance that there will > be a fix within days. In case of commercial sofwtare you usually have > to wait to the next update or upgrade and sometimes you have to pay > extra just to have a vital bug squished (or a few plus a new feature > thrown in to soap your eyes). But there are herds of musicians/artists > using pd in > production. Oops.. with developers I meant people developing patches with PureData. PureData itself is already in beta stage, if not a finished product. It's the 'recommended' Windows installer that installs all those sometimes pre-alpha libraries that can make your system instable. Compared to Max/MSP you do spend more time patching your patches, because Max/MSP contains many prefabricated objects. > BTW, what do you mean by incomplete functionnality in PD? Lack of prefabricated objects that allow faster development. Naturally you can make them yourself with PureData and/or C++, but that'll take longer. > > > In > > contrast > > to commercial applications like Max/MSP. > > I started usig Max/MSP in the MacOS8.x days. But the time of MacOS9 > but well before MacOSX I found MaxMSP rather unstable for live > performance. Everyone at my school was using it and everyone was > struggling to make the thing survive a performance. Everyone had the > unpleasant experience of MaxMSP hanging the whole system during a > performance. Perhaps that is what you think is related to > professionalism but I quickly found that I could run an audio patch on > my linux box with pd for _days_ without shutting off the audio and I'd > have no crash, no glitch. For me, the choice was obvious. You're right of course, stability is _the_ #1 requirement for live performance. In this case PureData is a winner. Today even under Windows. I'm not very familiar with the overall stability of Max/MSP these days, I hear it crashes a bit too often under Windows.. I assume it runs stable under MacOSX. > I am not saying that pd is perfect. It in fact needs a major overhaul > of some code but none of the developers claims it to be a professional > grade sofwtare, either. It's still in alpha, experimental release. > But it costs you nothing. Costs are irrelevant. I like the b/w interface though, and prefer PureData instead of Max/MSP. Also Max/MSP doesn't run on Linux *yet* :) > > This is why serious musicians > > and audio- > > philes still use Windows and/or MacOS. > Because those have been around for a long time and spend a lot of > money for marketing campaigns. And one of those comes pre-installed > when you buy a computer at your favorite store. And you are not given > a choice! If you want linux, you have to install it yourself or ask > specifically for linux at the retail store (and not all of them > provide linux systems). True. When you buy a laptop like I did.. well.. I still had to pay for Windows, couldn't get the device without it. Some harddisk manufacturers sell harddisks with Linspire (Commercial Linux distro) pre-installed. Another example is my previous motherboard from abit, it came with a linux distro with all the modules already in the kernel. So when you search the market a bit I'm sure alternatives can be found. > It is true that serious sofwtare > companies provide well packaged products with aboundant > documentation. They have the cash for it. Those musicians who just > want to plug and p[l][r]ay will naturally choose the mainstream OS > with mainstream applications. But that does not make them any more > serious than those who want to venture into the OS and apps that give > them freedom and a DIY environment for setting up their virtual gear > the way they want. I agree, but opensource software is often well documented as all software should be. I didn't know the toggle in PureData could also remember numbers, if I only knew many of such details earlier it would have saved me days. > > Another reason is that most hardware manufacturers provide drivers for > > Windows > > and Macintosh only. > > This means that with only linux you can't program > > e.g. your > > Roland synth or Nord Modular. > derek covered that in his post. Thanks for the tip, I'll search for his posts. I still have to get my XV, Midisport and Modular working under Linux. Finally I'm giving it another try :-) > > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > > alternatives. > Not linux. Linux is in fact a very stable and efficient OS. Some > audio applications are behind. Rosegarden is what Cubase was about 5-6 > years > ago. Ardour has a feature-set more attractive than Nuendo (minus the > MIDI sequencing) and soon it will be stable enough to actually use it > in production. Lilypond beats the socks off any notation package > currently available if you can stand the text based input (although > Rosegarden and NoteEdit are good frontends). And is well documented, > too. There are many other examples. When you say that this or that > sofwtare is so&so many years behind the commercial alternative keep in > mind that usually it's only a handful of developers working on it who > don't have the budget. I think this is impressive and merits some > kind of user support. I totally agree. But as you've said yourself, programs like Rosegarden are years behind, and this was exactly my point, the reason why most people choose to use Windows and/or MacOS instead. > > I myself am thinking of switching from Windows to linux permanently now > Good luck! Currently installing Gentoo Linux.. compiling KDE 3.2.2 for P4.. I just *love* it! Greetings, Tjeerd Sietsma electronic music student @ HKU Utrecht School of Arts, the Netherlands -- Tjeerd Sietsma xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 11:42:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30699-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41622 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:42:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 41611 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:42:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:45:38 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[nord modular + roland] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tjeerd, I'm not picking on you, I promise! ;-) It's just there was a lot of uninformed opinion in your post, and I'd like to set the record straight. As someone who is switching to Linux, I am sure you'll appreciate it as well... Tjeerd Sietsma wrote: > This means that with only linux you can't program > e.g. your > Roland synth or Nord Modular. > In this perspecive linux is like a decennium behind commercial > alternatives. Think again: > Welcome to nmEdit. This project attempts to create a open/free editor for the Clavia Nord Modular and Micro Modular synthesizers. Please note that this site and the whole project is still in developing stage. > > On 2 December Clavia announced the following: > Despite earlier information, Clavia has today decided to stop the work of the software upgrade for the Nord Modular system. Instead, Clavia will focus its development resources on new projects. > > And thus we (some people from the nord modular mailing list) decided to create and free/open source editor. > http://nmedit.sourceforge.net/ Coming soon to a Nord near you. Or what about this: > nordqt is a open source editor for Clavia Nord Modular synthesizers. The development language is C++ and chosen UI toolkit is Qt. nordqt is being developed under Linux with Qt/X11 free. The license is GPL. > http://www.iti.fi/kate/nordqt.php Or this? > Notemidi is a device driver for MIDI output via the RS-232 serial port on notebook/laptop computers. Notemidi can be used with the MIDIator MS-124W interface, Roland Sound Canvas sound modules, or Yamaha MU-x series sound modules. > http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notemidi The Nord example is interesting because it is a team of open source developers *taking over* when a company decides not to develop software for its products anymore. I see this as an extremely interesting development/intervention into the commercial music software & hardware market. But the bottom line is that you really can't look us in the eye and tell us that it is not possible to use "professional" gear or software under Linux. That is simply a myth born of ignorance. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 182: "What wouldn't you do?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 11:21:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-30698-vze26m98=mail.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36970 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:21:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 36946 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:21:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:21:41 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] PD / Microcontroller Workshop at BEK To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 19-23, 2004 Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner at BEK, Bergen, Norway, July 24-25 * * * * * Physical Computing Workshop with Eva Sjuve The workshop is aimed at artists and musicians who are interested in physical interaction with the computer, a way to interact, by not using the keyboard and the mouse. In the workshop we use a microcontroller, BasicX-24, programming it using Basic language, and use it as a tool for interaction with various kinds of sensors. The workshop is basic, no programming or knowledge in electronics is necessary, but preferred. To attend the workshop is free, the participant has to pay for their own travel and lodging to Bergen, Norway. The participants will be able to keep their project from the workshop. To participate or for more info send an email to: xxx@xxx.xx And include a motivation to participate in the workshop. The workshop is limited to 7 participants. Eva Sjuve has been working with computer-based projects since the 80's, and is building and performing with physical interfaces. She has been exhibiting in Europe, US, South America, Asia and Australia, since mid –80's. Eva Sjuve studied microcontrollers at The Physics Department at Lund University, Sweden, and later at The Interactive Telecommunications Program at New York University. She holds a MA in Art Theory and Master's studies in Drama/Theatre/Film, Lund University, Sweden and a MPS at ITP, New York University. She also studied at The School of Visual Arts in New York, and at Centre de Creation Musicale Iannis Xenakis (CCMIX), Paris, France For more info: http://www.bek.no/~eva http://moomonkey.com * * * * * Pure Data Workshop with Malte Steiner Pure Data (PD) is a real-time graphical programming environment for audio, video, and graphical processing, originally developed by Miller Puckette. This workshop is aimed at beginners and will include installation of PD/GEM, serial control from a microcontroller, building of a basic sound patch and introduction to GEM (an OpenGL and video extension for Pd) Pure Data is a free software and can be used on Mac OSX, Linux, Windows 32 http://pure-data.iem.at/about/ http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html Malte Steiner (Hamburg), media artist, programmer and developer. He has been developing interactive art installations using PD, MAX/MSP as well as projects for theater, web and mobile phones in Europe and in Asia. Steiner is also an electronic musician with performances in South America and Europe with his Elektronengehirn project. He has been holding workshops and lectures in Germany, US and in the UK. http://block4.com/ more info: xxx@xxx.xx * * * * * Bergen Center for Electronic Arts C.Sundtgt.55 5004 Bergen, Norway phone: +47-55233080 http://www.bek.no The workshops are supported by PNEK, (Production Network for Electronic Arts, Norway) http://pnek.no/ * * * * * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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