Re: (idm) little balls of poo

From Che
Sent Sun, Mar 7th 1999, 03:25

At 09:22 AM 3/5/99 -0800, eric hill wrote:

>who are these people who have been able to completely detach themselves
>from all they've experienced, from everything that they'd draw upon when
>making music? all musicians participate in the history of music, though
>whether their path through it is recognizable or not seems to be the issue
>here - to idolize artists who are better at hiding their influences. 

Yes, the recognizability is the issue.  There's a difference between seeing
the influence of Japanese art on the Impressionists and a paint-by-numbers
copy of "Blue Boy".  Likewise, there's a difference between hearing the
influence of Dub on The Clash and that execrable paint-by-numbers cover of
"Heroes" on the Godzilla soundtrack.

Personally, I find overtly recognizable influences to be very, VERY
distracting.  For instance, with the Pixies I found myself trying to
identify which Wire song they're ripping off, instead of listening to the
music.  One of the main reasons I completely bailed on Rock for Electronic
music is that Rockers have become completely unable to not wear their
influences on their sleeves.  The Smiths were the last Rock band I heard
that sounded completely fresh, in that I couldn't identify their influences
thru their music.  Grunge - what a 70's flashblack nightmare!

Newbuild & Utd.State 90 completely blew the top of my head off in terms of
originality (ok, I hadn't heard any Phuture prior to Newbuild, but Newbuild
is still in a league of its own).  Then I heard Detroit.  Wow.  Then I
started hearing people like Black Dog, Aphex, Beau Hannant, The Orb,
Orbital, Reload, Autechre - they all had (and still have) their own
ever-mutating sound, and I couldn't hear their influences in the music.

So now I'm buying Skam 12"s and asking myself - uh, which one is the Gescom
track?  I hear Boards Of Canada and ask - what kind of retro shit is this?
(I know BOC is one of the current darlings of this list, but what little
I've heard has been far too derivative for my tastes)  I can't tell you the
last time I heard a Techno artist that sounded fresh & original, which is
why I started buying stuff like Squarepusher, TPower, Photek, & Amon Tobin
- they've all distanced themselves from their genre(s) in a very IDM way.
Yeah, I'm still following my old Techno faves, but the IDM end of the genre
is distinctly lacking in new blood, at least to my ears.

The recognizability factor has passed my threshold of tolerance.  Your
threshold might be higher - great for you, because I'm afraid it's going to
take an increasingly higher tolerance for derivative music to enjoy the
Techno side of IDM.  It may be time to start working on the obituary...

Che

There's nothing that'll make me reach for the MUTE button faster than a
Philips commercial...except Alannis Morrisette.