From Sham Beam Sent Thu, Sep 3rd 2015, 02:39
From Sham Beam Sent Thu, Sep 3rd 2015, 02:39
no way! bogdan's early stuff was fun. On 9/3/2015 12:26 PM, Mauro wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Chris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> >> That Tycho stuff needs to GTFO > > Hi, I'll step aside from the shadows for a moment to second this. > Also, when I first read this mail though "yeah man, fuck bogdan > raczynski" but these last days I've been hearing his newer stuff and > my opinion went to "bogdan, your old stuff sucks. sincerely a random > guy from teh interweb". > > > > >> >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write >> terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares! >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in music. >>> Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to explore and going all >>> the way in without worrying about how it's going to be received or how well >>> it fits standard formats. An example is the way Riccardo Villalobos makes >>> 20 minute tracks. They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike >>> anything else. >>> >>> Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you aren't a >>> good singer and you write terrible lyrics. I can't think of an IDM example, >>> and even then that's subjective. >>> >>> It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone else >>> will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence if you follow >>> your muse, and the result sucks. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being self-indulgent a >>>> bad thing? >>>> also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO like are >>>> NOT self indulgent? >>>> (name some i bet they all are) >>>> >>>> anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like him more >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is Rotted..' did >>>>> had some low points ("self indulgent" though I guess he's an artist with the >>>>> right to make what he wants and I can opt not to buy... or just listen to >>>>> individual tracks). >>>>> >>>>> Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as he was... >>>>> even for the stuff that was more classified as pop. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> go back >>>>>> tom >>>>>> do it again >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff >>>>>> <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex toy then? one should >>>>>>> not try to fit a square peg in a round hole! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the steely dan of techno >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams >>>>>>>> <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also like that the kind of stuff by Squarepusher I like (like >>>>>>>>> "Music Is Rotted One Note") is cited as something someone else on the list >>>>>>>>> hates. "Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the >>>>>>>>> self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff." Thanks Mark! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We do also need to start a soundcloud free account in the name >>>>>>>>> "SQUARPUSHER" and start posting wierd shit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this is funny because in theory doesnt squarepusher .. 'push' a lot >>>>>>>>>> of albums? i mean i get the impression that second to afx he is one of >>>>>>>>>> warp's bigger electronic acts but yet every other person i talk to HATES his >>>>>>>>>> music, not just dislikes but people say stuff just like what you guys are >>>>>>>>>> sort of saying, like that his style is actually offensively 'self indulgent' >>>>>>>>>> to people heh >>>>>>>>>> i guess i kind of see this but at the same time it really doesnt >>>>>>>>>> affect me listening to the music or maybe i even enjoy that aspect of it...i >>>>>>>>>> loved big loada, hard normal daddy, damogen furies, i thought ufabulum was >>>>>>>>>> eh, but then he came out with the kcrw sessions which basically 'fixed' the >>>>>>>>>> issues i had with ufabulum... >>>>>>>>>> i dunno my one best friend says vehemently "there is NOTHING >>>>>>>>>> original or interesting about ANYTHING he's done" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Schieldrop >>>>>>>>>> <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the >>>>>>>>>>> self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And obligatory: Moby. Though, heâs arguably not IDM. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Laurent Knauth [mailto:xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:39 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Faraz Masroor >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Idm List >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IDM you don't like >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Problem with this topic is that the list is endless... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hell is the limit ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Faraz Masroor >>>>>>>>>>> <xxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have a lot of discussion here about history of IDM, podcasts, >>>>>>>>>>> new releases were interested in, etc. Basically stuff we like, but how about >>>>>>>>>>> a thread for stuff you don't like? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin very interesting because his >>>>>>>>>>> new songs are unfocused and too similar to each other, kinda boring. I >>>>>>>>>>> haven't listened to SAW yet but I imagine I'll like it better. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Faraz >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -- Sham Beam