From Darren Keast Sent Thu, Jul 1st 1999, 06:39
Interesting how fast Yahoo has backed down: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20518.html they've just changed the contract after an outcry from users. darren xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > I thought I would pass this along to all of you if by chance you have any of > the following on geocities/yahoo > In a message dated 7/1/99 3:28:44 AM, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx writes: > > <<someone sent me the following info, > > ultra bad news regarding copyrights and content on > geocities. bassically anything up there, like mp3s for > example, become copyrighted property of geocities/yahoo. > > take down your mp3s on geocities asap!!! > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:20:50 -0700 Subject: Have you seen > this? Status: U > > I went to yahoo and confirm this, it's hard to swallow. It > specificaly deals with Yahoo/Geocities's new contract. Take > a look at Yahoo's "terms > > and services" link. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ One > more thing to worry about if you haved anykind of > intellectual property on yahoo, and rest assured the rest of > them will follow suit. > > Begins Here: > > 8. CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO > By submitting Content to > any Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or > > warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly > granted, Yahoo the > royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, > non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to > use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create > derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such > Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate > it in other works in any form, media, or technology now > known or later developed. You acknowledge > > that Yahoo does not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo and > its designees > > shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole > discretion to refuse, edit, move or remove any Content that > is publicly available via the Service. Without limiting the > foregoing, Yahoo and its designees shall have the right to > remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise > objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear > all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including > any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of > such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may > not rely on any Content created by Yahoo or > > submitted to Yahoo, including without limitation information > in Yahoo! > Message Boards, Yahoo! Clubs, and in all other > parts of the Service. > > (This is a direct quote from the Terms of Service page which > you can find at: Yahoo! Terms of Service) > > In short, any content you have on GeoCities or any other of > Yahoo's > properties is theirs to use, ROYALTY-FREE, > forever. Any images that you've > made, any of your own > copyrighted material you've made available, any > pictures > you've published, etc. belongs to them and they can do > whatever > > they want with it, forever, in any medium "or technology now > known or later developed." > > I bet you weren't aware that any work you've produced and > shown to others via your GeoCities site now "belongs" to you > AND Yahoo. Further, if you read closely you see that they > also gave themselves the "fully sublicensable right and > license to use" so they can take your property, sell it to > others(giving you nothing), or even license it to your > competitor AND NOT PAY YOU A DIME! > > What's worse, you can't even take your content off of > GeoCities WITHOUT AGREEING TO THESE TERMS! If you're there > already, they've got your material now, lock, stock and > barrel! It is time to show these corporate clowns that there > is a large, diverse > > internet outside of their "properties" and they can shove > their various services into whichever oriface they may fit, > now or in the future! Stop using Yahoo. Boycott them, and > all of their properties. This includes Yahoo.com, > GeoCities.com and Broadcast.com. Don't buy products from > merchants at shopping.Yahoo.com and let them know why! > > Let Yahoo know that you won't tolerate this! Email > xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx and demand that they let you remove > your content AND demand that they remove it from their > databases AND demand that they won't use it without > > your express consent. > > Move your site to one of GeoCities' competitors (see list at > left). > > Link to this page from your site (your new site, if you're > moving from > GeoCities) and let your visitors know that > this issue is important to you as a webmaster, even if you > don't use GeoCities yourself! > > If you're a user and you use a site which is located at > GeoCities, let the > owner of that site know that he or > she has just signed over his or her entire work to these > goons and they should leave the service at once! > > If you are a graphics professional, design logos which don't > infringe on > > Yahoo's copyrights but will give viewers the message that > they are under > > boycott (think of the ribbon campaign to defeat the CDA last > year).> > > If you are a reporter, or know one, or know how to get in > touch with one, grab their ear and let them know this is > going on.>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: (DARKSTEP) get your mp3s off of geocities asap!!! (fwd) > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:39:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: S K I N N E R <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > To: Gabber List <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > CC: DarkStep Mailing List <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > someone sent me the following info, > > ultra bad news regarding copyrights and content on > geocities. bassically anything up there, like mp3s for > example, become copyrighted property of geocities/yahoo. > > take down your mp3s on geocities asap!!! > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:20:50 -0700 Subject: Have you seen > this? Status: U > > I went to yahoo and confirm this, it's hard to swallow. It > specificaly deals with Yahoo/Geocities's new contract. Take > a look at Yahoo's "terms > > and services" link. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ One > more thing to worry about if you haved anykind of > intellectual property on yahoo, and rest assured the rest of > them will follow suit. > > Begins Here: > > 8. CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO<BR> By submitting Content to > any Yahoo property, you automatically grant, or > > warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly > granted, Yahoo the<BR> royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, > non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to > use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create > derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such > Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate > it in other works in any form, media, or technology now > known or later developed. You acknowledge > > that Yahoo does not pre-screen Content, but that Yahoo and > its designees > > shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole > discretion to refuse, edit, move or remove any Content that > is publicly available via the Service. Without limiting the > foregoing, Yahoo and its designees shall have the right to > remove any Content that violates the TOS or is otherwise > objectionable. You agree that you must evaluate, and bear > all risks associated with, the use of any Content, including > any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of > such Content. In this regard, you acknowledge that you may > not rely on any Content created by Yahoo or<BR> > > submitted to Yahoo, including without limitation information > in Yahoo!<BR> Message Boards, Yahoo! Clubs, and in all other > parts of the Service.<BR> > > (This is a direct quote from the Terms of Service page which > you can find at: Yahoo! Terms of Service) > > In short, any content you have on GeoCities or any other of > Yahoo's<BR> properties is theirs to use, ROYALTY-FREE, > forever. Any images that you've<BR> made, any of your own > copyrighted material you've made available, any<BR> pictures > you've published, etc. belongs to them and they can do > whatever > > they want with it, forever, in any medium "or technology now > known or later developed." > > I bet you weren't aware that any work you've produced and > shown to others via your GeoCities site now "belongs" to you > AND Yahoo. Further, if you read closely you see that they > also gave themselves the "fully sublicensable right and > license to use" so they can take your property, sell it to > others(giving you nothing), or even license it to your > competitor AND NOT PAY YOU A DIME! > > What's worse, you can't even take your content off of > GeoCities WITHOUT AGREEING TO THESE TERMS! If you're there > already, they've got your material now, lock, stock and > barrel! It is time to show these corporate clowns that there > is a large, diverse > > internet outside of their "properties" and they can shove > their various services into whichever oriface they may fit, > now or in the future! Stop using Yahoo. Boycott them, and > all of their properties. This includes Yahoo.com, > GeoCities.com and Broadcast.com. Don't buy products from > merchants at shopping.Yahoo.com and let them know why! > > Let Yahoo know that you won't tolerate this! Email > xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx and demand that they let you remove > your content AND demand that they remove it from their > databases AND demand that they won't use it without > > your express consent. > > Move your site to one of GeoCities' competitors (see list at > left). > > Link to this page from your site (your new site, if you're > moving from<BR> GeoCities) and let your visitors know that > this issue is important to you as a webmaster, even if you > don't use GeoCities yourself!<BR> > > If you're a user and you use a site which is located at > GeoCities, let the<BR> owner of that site know that he or > she has just signed over his or her entire work to these > goons and they should leave the service at once! > > If you are a graphics professional, design logos which don't > infringe on > > Yahoo's copyrights but will give viewers the message that > they are under > > boycott (think of the ribbon campaign to defeat the CDA last > year).> > > If you are a reporter, or know one, or know how to get in > touch with one, grab their ear and let them know this is > going on. -- ::::: Darren Keast ::::: Editor ::::: Skinny Intertainment Network ::::: http://www.skinny.com/