From Greg Earle Sent Fri, Dec 26th 1997, 04:38
>>> Parting shot: >>> No-U-Turn is "dark" music for people who have no idea what "dark" music >>> actually sounds like. > > Well, I haven't heard all of it, but I've heard quite a bit (Torque + some > random 12"s) and all of it's been pretty terrible. The same style > distorted, badly produced bass sound, the same 2-step badly produced "Badly produced"! Spare me ... Compared to, say Download, most everything discussed on this list is "badly produced" ... > However, it probably wouldn't bug me half as much if No-U-Turn didn't get > all the credit for "dark drum and bass" while numerous people are out > there producing stuff 10x as good (Panacea, Godflesh, PCM, Downpour, ROTFL!!! Panacea, the guy who FUCKING SAMPLES NO-U-TURN RECORDS SHAMELESSLY? Hey, I love his stuff too, but let's get real here! Go back a couple of days and read my review of the Position Chrome 19 CD please! Wherein a live jam between Panacea and a few others on Chrome leaves the No-U-Turn samples in intact! As for Downpour, well, I have the David Kristian/Downpour split CD on Dropbeat and I'd file Downpour under "Art Wank Drum N' Bass", sorry dude but I'd rather listen to "Torque" any day of the week. So I have a soft spot for "badly produced" Hoover bass. Bite me. > to name some), 10x as original/interesting, and no one listens, because of > the hype (For the record, I regard "hype" as just as much an evil as MTV. > The only difference is the audience - MTV gets "the masses" (who only > exist in the minds of the "hip") while hype (The Wire, the IDM list, the > Voice, Simon Reynolds, DJs, art students, etc) gets "the hip." They're > both right about 10% of the time. Maybe MTV is a little better. > Both ignore anything that doesn't fit their image or their > marketing agenda until 5 years later when it's been dumbed down or > "artified," [...] Wait, you listed "The IDM list" in the hype/"the hip" list? So you're telling me that, as a member of the IDM list, I'm ignoring anything that doesn't fit my image or my marketing agenda? I OWN PANACEA, NO-U-TURN *AND* DOWNPOUR CD'S HELLLLLLO. (Disclaimer: I read "The Wire" and the IDM list. I could give two shits about Village Voice, Simon Reynolds, what DJs like or "art students".) Besides, someone from Princeton talking about pretentiousness? It is to laugh. np: Luke Slater "Freek Funk" Bah humbug, - Greg