From Mauro Sent Mon, Mar 26th 2018, 00:59
From Mauro Sent Mon, Mar 26th 2018, 00:59
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM, 22tape <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Yeah, they=E2=80=99re both victims of sexual assault... so no safe privil= ege here. > hi. instead of dismissing what nat is saying. we could take a step outside of this thread and think about it for a moment. on one hand (with hanlon's razor in hand) we can't directly attribute that beatwife is spreading hate-speech. on the other hand, we can't either give the benefit of the doubt to naming things like this (not just beatwife, but goat whore, stage 4 cancer, prostitute disfigurement also. to name a few). nat: i'd like to point out that "real men do x" is a bit silly, because you're forcing men to act in a certain way (ie: real men don't cry.) to avoid seeing them as less-than-a-man (i'll leave the blank space to be filled in). and i'll just stop typing here to avoid being seen as a sjw. either way, i'm really happy that this kind of discussion are taking place (it means that something a revision because it got out-dated). also, no godwin's law so far ! > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 6:27 PM nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> And they are correct in that regards!!! You are right. But, I do think >> women need protecting because currently in our world they are not protec= ted >> and they are being disproportionately hurt. >> >> >> Something to consider: sometimes it is from (no assumptions of your >> family) a place of safe privilege where we can make such statements. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: 22tape <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:17 PM >> >> To: nat hawks >> Cc: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; psycosyin >> Subject: Re: beatwife podcast >> I=E2=80=99m actually sitting here with my mom and sister (who are both f= eminists) >> having a cup of coffee talking about fisting. They are not offended. The= y >> actually think this whole thread is hilarious. Idealogues are hilarious! >> They think that your heart is in the right place, but they also think th= at >> men who view women as monolithic creatures who need protecting are sorel= y >> mislead. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 6:08 PM nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> 22tape, imagine what a female would feel reading your last post. >> >> >> A female who is trying to learn more about a male-dominated genre of mus= ic >> she loves? Making idm herself. >> >> She would be rightfully disgusted. "fist" (while an accepted consensual >> act) connotes violence without context. >> >> sexual violence. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: 22tape <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:04 PM >> To: nat hawks >> Cc: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; psycosyin >> Subject: Re: beatwife podcast >> >> What if it=E2=80=99s a female fisting another female? >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:52 PM nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> 1. Beatwife=3Dbeat wife. Period. >> 2. Skinny Puppy isn't a great example, but I hear you. Someone mentione= d >> Goat Whore. Personally, I think that is a vile band name that perpetuat= es >> the abuse of women. >> 3. Fisted Sister=3Dperpetuates abuse against women. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 6:41 PM, psycosyin <xxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx> wrote: >> > >> > He isn't saying anything literally about beating one's wife, it's just= a >> > word with no context attached, as far as I know. There is a band nam= ed >> > Skinny Puppy, they aren't saying "you should starve your baby dog". >> > >> > I guess my dream of starting a hair metal cover band named Fisted Sist= er >> > wouldn't go over well around here. >> > >> > >> > <RAW> >> >> -- >> 22tape/jared dunne >> listen >> >> -- >> 22tape/jared dunne >> listen > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen