From dino bose Sent Thu, Sep 2nd 1999, 01:51
From dino bose Sent Thu, Sep 2nd 1999, 01:51
hey all... --this subject intrigued me... --I am a guitarist from the rock tradition...hendrix, zeppelin, pink floyd, jane's addiction, and the cure, mbv, etc. --for almost a year now, i have been working with a dj on an ambient/idm thing... --and i still work on my psychedelic rock stuff.... --we both grew up on 60's, 70's rock, but over the last 7-8 years, we've been way into elec. stuff...more as observers... --then, last nov/dec. we got going with our project...we found that the stuff was closest to how we wanted to do it was ambient/idm as opposed to hardcore, house, techno, etc. --we discovered Gas, Pole, Autechre, Plaid, etc etc...and we've gotten much more into the complexities....Fax label stuff...aphex, dj krush, etc... --basically, I'm trying to say that there should be no limits to what an artist wants to experiment with or do....i love it all...with exceptions of course, but the deal is that i have one foot in the rock tradition and one foot in the experimental electronica... --i am loyal to both...to me both are all about freedom of expression...and that is the main point of all art...isn't it...?? --the true pioneers of rock were major rule-breakers and such...jimi hendrix had Roger Mayer of the British Admiralty(navy to us US people) building custom effects for him....and others followed...isn't this like dj's getting all sorts of cool fx from Roland made specifically with the electronic artist in mind...like Dr. Groove....or Dr. Sample...you know what i mean?? --and then there was jimmy page using the violin bow on the guitar and using organs, synths, moogs, mellotrons, and all sorts of special effects.... --to me these were the most brave, envelope-pushing of rock musicians...the idealism of these people to me is the same as the idealism of electronica artists...all are people concerned with art and not with the barriers that exist to confine these things to categories... --i read something about one of the chem. bros.--he plays good guitar...but thinks it lame to play one on stage.... --this dissapointed me...if he's a so-called experimental artist breaking the boundaries of how music should be, then shouldn't he not give a shit as to how he's perceived on stage.... --I saw Goldie when he opened for the Jane's relapse tour... --he had full on guitarists/bassists there...to me that was exciting...seeing how the two worlds meshed... --I am going to be doing gigs with my dj and doing ambient/idm stuff and i'll play the fucking guitar wherever i want....i don't put limits on myself other than what I WANT to do... --maybe i guess that's what tom from chem bros. was talking about...if he personally doesn't want to go around with a guitar, that's one thing...if he doesn't want to do it because it would look lame to the audience, then that's somewhat of a limited point of view...if i meet him, i'll ask him and let all know.... --well, i'm sure most nodded off after my first few lines....but for those of you who read up to this point, i would really love to hear some thoughts on this...thanks...the (forever free) liquid professor... >From: "John Bush" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: "xxx@xxxxxxxxx. Org" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Aaron S Michelson" ><asm2+@andrew.cmu.edu> >Subject: RE: (idm) IDM vs Rock bands >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:54:29 -0400 > > > > The Flaming Lips are using more and more electronic > > > instruments and talk about afx and uZiq in interviews > > > > That's like citing grunge as an influence > > by mentioning Pearl Jam and Nirvana. > >I think Wayne Coyne's a bit too busy making his *own* music to worry about >tracking down the "roots" of electronica so he'll have cool artists to >namecheck during his interviews. He's a mad genius and he's got his own >thing... Has anyone seen the recent Flaming Lips shows? They're >incredible; music synched up to wild visuals with Wayne himself doing his >very own "Gong Show" impressions. Plus, there's lots of silly string and >fake blood! > >.John. > > >.John. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com