From Michael Wright Sent Fri, Apr 1st 2005, 01:36
From Michael Wright Sent Fri, Apr 1st 2005, 01:36
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1448147,00.html Please, will someone make creative use of this before U2?!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Achrid mp3's available at www.achrid.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Apr 1 00:34:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35066-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42829 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:34:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 42818 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:34:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:30:57 +0200 From: michael hohendorf <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Phthalocyanine in Germany !!! To: "'xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx'" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.x-xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:566c5579726788d5ea2b36f30760e8af X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Last minute tour announcement! PHTHALOCYANINE (los angeles) -planet mu, phthalo, a-musik... & GAUMEN (bremen) -esel records 01.04. Cologne - Kulturbunker Muehlheim 02.04. Berlin - Zentrale Randlage 03.04. 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Fri Apr 1 00:26:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35065-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37007 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 36997 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:26:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:26:32 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.37.198 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys Info At http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=G6Wm1d1ppiTfNgh8y+ME4kGnyf20a9KCmO3DuvnNCNWrYDOk1gA1HMsh03I80B+f; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c2609c47fad5623c58af411a59ce6600e25952601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mar 31, 2005, at 3:58 PM, Nick S wrote: > its my understanding they all do synthesis, from what ive gathered so > far > the main difference is the cpu and os. > > sorry if this is OT here...i thought it was on-topic...i wouldve > posted to > AH, but its definately OT there. -might be considered o.t. since this isn't really a gear forum. i don't consider it o.t. since we're dealing with micro architecture making large sounds. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Jarboe" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 > > >> On Mar 31, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Nick S wrote: >> >>> hi all...new to the list...anyways, quick question for the emu heads >>> here....what are the main differences between the e64 and e6400 >>> samplers? >>> >>> ive been looking to get an emu for awhile, and now, it seems the >>> price >>> is finally right for me. >> >> >> i'm not absolutely sure , though i've thought of using the e6400 >> myself. in the e6400 one is able to delve into synthesis , even to the >> point of recreating an approximation of the old emu modular systems . >> remember animotion's 'obsession' ? propoganda's 'machinery'? >> >> >> -hope this is a bit of help, o.t. as it might be >> >> >> Bill >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Apr 1 00:15:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35064-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23320 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:15:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 23308 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:15:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Badio talk, NYC - simultaneous live webcast In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=HItgbQ2wbprNeC5uCkuCL6KMbJbX5FbdU7KoIp+NfDZGikGJvL8AgY4ybppkG6RZjRA7wCauKmmCO1jZdWYtmoLg9Acq2hQ1bxvRpHyXc3z/jCUegZ1vUHJBFhVlpCkTjqRoGgilTvdhHXi4eXeXk1TiuCvXfbbCaeBiTjWtQQs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all, (I just now sent attempted to send this to the microsound annoucements list but got a failure to deliver bounce back) FYI: The August Sound Coalition will be broadcasting on the web, live: Alain Badiou's talk at Deitch Projects, Friday April 1, 7PM EST. Info on where on the web to listen-in will be sent out to you tomorrow afternoon. -A ************* August Sound Coalition http://radio.socialtechnology.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Apr 1 00:00:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35063-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15930 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:00:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 15919 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:00:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:58:24 -0500 From: Nick S <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 X-Originating-IP: [64.4.56.210] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2005 00:00:10.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5545FF0:01C5364D] its my understanding they all do synthesis, from what ive gathered so far the main difference is the cpu and os. sorry if this is OT here...i thought it was on-topic...i wouldve posted to AH, but its definately OT there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Jarboe" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 > On Mar 31, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Nick S wrote: > > > hi all...new to the list...anyways, quick question for the emu heads > > here....what are the main differences between the e64 and e6400 > > samplers? > > > > ive been looking to get an emu for awhile, and now, it seems the price > > is finally right for me. > > > i'm not absolutely sure , though i've thought of using the e6400 > myself. in the e6400 one is able to delve into synthesis , even to the > point of recreating an approximation of the old emu modular systems . > remember animotion's 'obsession' ? propoganda's 'machinery'? > > > -hope this is a bit of help, o.t. as it might be > > > Bill > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 22:59:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35062-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84809 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 84799 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:59:34 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.105.162 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys Info At http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=JCKBSX5FPpSlPbTe4jA6op7O4iqpDWheQA9+21esmqVGWjOgx2GLQaVk7ApGKkW8; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26091623b07bddc902c1a297a899a7349064666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mar 31, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Nick S wrote: > hi all...new to the list...anyways, quick question for the emu heads > here....what are the main differences between the e64 and e6400 > samplers? > > ive been looking to get an emu for awhile, and now, it seems the price > is finally right for me. i'm not absolutely sure , though i've thought of using the e6400 myself. in the e6400 one is able to delve into synthesis , even to the point of recreating an approximation of the old emu modular systems . remember animotion's 'obsession' ? propoganda's 'machinery'? -hope this is a bit of help, o.t. as it might be Bill > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 22:35:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35061-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74172 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:35:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 74160 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:35:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:33:40 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RADIO TAXI works X-Sender: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06110445be722b36ce1f@[81.151.99.247]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Fwded: dont reply to me! thanks ;-) use email contact below... douglas benford RADIO TAXI Kirsten Lavers, cris cheek, (TNWK) and Simon Keep invite sound artists(including writers, poets, visual artists, musicians working with sound) tosubmit work for a short range FM and internet radio event in late May and early June 2005.BACKGROUND RADIO TAXI is a Taxi Gallery narrowcast and webcast initiative. Taxi Gallery is literally a black cab situated in a council estate on the outskirts of Cambridge,England. Since Sept 2001, over 25 different artists have made new works inresponse to the specific context offered by the gallery and its location. TaxiGallery is a project that reaches for an extended conversation with local, nationaland international audiences (via its website) in response to a broad range of challenging contemporary artworks, approaches and ideas.For more info on Taxi Gallery - please visit www.taxigallery.org.uk The translocal or "glocal" philosophy of Taxi Gallery is reflected in the forthcoming RADIO TAXI project which will integrate a 3 mile radius analogueFM broadcast with a worldwide digital transmission via a server capable ofhandling multiple streams.RADIO TAXI will be a live(ly) mix of locally originated programmes and interventions (significant community involvement by neighbourhood residents ofall ages will be developed, including several major projects with ColeridgeSecondary School and an evolving radio club), a curated programme of invitedsound works and a schedule of sonic art from all over the world. The Radio Taxi webcast will be technically supported by Liam Wells (NorwichSchool of Art and Design) of n0media. Transmission dates: 6pm 27 May - 6am 31 May (GMT)& 6pm 3 June - Midnight 5 June (selected highlights) The selected highlights will remain archived on the Taxi Gallery website for theforeseeable future. An audio CD selection will also be included in a forthcomingfull colour Taxi Gallery publication. SUBMISSION DETAILSTHERE ARE THREE WAYS TO TAKE PART IN RADIO TAXI: 1. A 1hour (unedited, raw) field sound recording made at night (anytimebetween dusk and dawn) from a specific location anywhere in the world.Please include exact details of the location, date and time of the recording. 2. A recording made for the duration of a taxi journey (see Jan Cain's 'Ride'in the Taxi Gallery web archive). Please include details of the journeyincluding departure and arrival destinations and reasons for the journey.These recordings will be played during the overnight programme during the broadcast period - a programme inspired by Jim Jarmusch's film 'Night OnEarth'. All submitted recordings will be fully credited on the website. 3. Contribute to the curated programme by submitting new or existing soundworks that in some way address at least one or more of the followingthemes: NeighbourhoodThe CommonsEverydayLocation Transition Conversation Collection Transmission No other limits and we're also happy to receive proposals/ideas for works to becarried out on site or via live - streaming. Submissions should be sent (preferably in audio CD format - please get in touch if this is a problem) withdetails, credit info and weblinks to: 38 Stanesfield Rd, Cambridge, CB5 8NH England. 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Thu Mar 31 21:01:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35060-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34971 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:01:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 34960 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:01:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:59:40 -0500 From: Nick S <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] emu e64 vs e6400 X-Originating-IP: [64.4.56.210] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ig11B3nExeW2gU6G9BCTrg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2005 21:01:24.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC8AE0A0:01C53634] --Boundary_(ID_Ig11B3nExeW2gU6G9BCTrg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all...new to the list...anyways, quick question for the emu heads here....what are the main differences between the e64 and e6400 samplers? ive been looking to get an emu for awhile, and now, it seems the price is finally right for me. --Boundary_(ID_Ig11B3nExeW2gU6G9BCTrg)-- From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 13:33:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35059-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29287 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:33:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 29267 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:33:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:33:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 30/03/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NvjTDYUl3+PNRbIjg8VjSw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NvjTDYUl3+PNRbIjg8VjSw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) ·Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM Miércoles/Wednesday 15h -www.circulobellasartes.com ·Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h -www.uam.es/ra ·Listen live real time -www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 30/03/05 01. HAIR POLICE Track: The Hills Have Eyes Album: Hair Police & Dead Machines - Split LP Label: Gods of Tundra & American Tapes Trabajo compartido por dos bandas de noise del entorno de Michigan, Hair Police y Dead Machines, grabado con motivo de la última gira conjunta de ambas. "The Hills Have Eyes" es la cara de Hair Police, combo formado por Robert Beatty, Trevor Tremaine y Mike Connelly Split work by two noise bands from the Michigan area, Hair Police and Dead Machines, recorded for their last combined tour. "The Hills Have Eyes" is Hair Police's side, a combo formed by Robert Beatty, Trevor Tremaine and Mike Connelly 02. ERIC BOLLMAN Track: 3 Album: Untitled Label: Fat Cat Eric Bollman es músico, artista visual y diseñador residente en Nueva York, cuya obra parte de grabaciones de campo, sobre las que trabaja composiciones ambientales como esta, incluída en un disco sin título, y que recientemente ha editado el sello británico Fat Cat en la sección dedicada a demos recibidas en su página web Eric Bollman is a musician, visual artist and designer residing in New York, whose work departs from field recordings, over which he works environmental compositions like this, included in an untitled album, that has recently been published on the British label Fat Cat in its demo section. 03. MINAMO Track: We Were Album: Shining Label: 12k El cuarteto japonés Minamo, con su quinto trabajo hasta la fecha, repleto como siempre de atmósferas vagas y evasivas, en esta ocasión con un acercamiento mucho más agresivo entre el post-rock, la improvisación y la electrónica digital Este es su debut en el sello norteamericano 12K dirigido por Taylor Deupree The Japanese quartet Minamo, with their fifth work so far, replete as always of evasive atmospheres, in this occasion with a much more aggressive approach between post-rock, improvisation and digital electronics. This is their debut on the North American label 12K, directed by Taylor Deupree 04. KOJI ASANO Track: Sanctuary On Reclaimed Land Album: Sanctuary On Reclaimed Land Label: Solstice Koji Asano es un joven artista japonés que ha residido en ciudades como Londres, Tokyo y Barcelona, hasta hace poco. Se trata de un imaginativo y prolífico compositor electroacústico con más de 30 referencias en sólo una década de producción, sobre todo para cd pero también para teatro, cine, u ocasiones como ésta, la muestra Sound Art Lab, celebrada en Osaka en Junio del año pasado, utilizando ordenador portátil y una variada gama de instrumentos que se transforman constantemente en algo nuevo Koji Asano is a young japanese artist that has resided in cities like London, Tokyo and Barcelona (til recently). He is an imaginative and fruitful electroacoustic composer with more than 30 references in only a decade of production, mainly for cd but also for theater, cinema, or, like this, for the Sound Art Lab exhibition, held in Osaka in June 2004, using laptop and a varied range of instruments that are constantly transforming into something new 05. CAMPING Track: 3 Republica Album: Dancing Days Label: Astro Corte que cierra "Dancing Days", el nuevo disco del quinteto catalán Camping tras su debut del año pasado "Photo Finish", caminando hacia terrenos cada vez más experimentales investigando en el ambiente. Un trabajo para el sello Astro que cuenta con la colaboración, entre otros, del afamado productor norteamericano Scott Herren, Prefuse 73 Last track of "Dancing Days", the new record by the Catalan quintet Camping, after their last year's debut "Photo Finish", walking towards more experimental lands, investigating in the atmospheres. A work for the Astro label that counts with the collaboration, among others, of the famous North American producer Scott Herren, Prefuse 73 _____ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado “borrame” y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not your case, then reply us with this subject for the message: “delete me”, and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you --------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_NvjTDYUl3+PNRbIjg8VjSw)-- From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 10:09:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35058-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82919 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:09:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 82909 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:09:14 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:07:46 -0800 From: xxxxx@xxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Unintentional bounce To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <20050331.020746.3280.8.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fuGZIsQnzPDkjQP1xy1e4g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-UNTD-OriginStamp: ymnrZTwhqAK9vTzSuWCxvSgO9lrKHp+cXRqHN2BzN25gXaP/z2oiCA== X-ContentStamp: 3:4:4105889965 X-MAIL-INFO: 2c397c854d2885d1c5a818bcc9b91811acdc11485561c9d8e5dd958838b571689c486dc1098989e9b55d680c8c68ec496ce99c3921ed31993535bccd11f5317c5c9d9db1d52d7901294c816da9bdb84949b9c9b5988888f1c84de8b5911568181c5d4dc5c50d1525555d8cccacac X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_fuGZIsQnzPDkjQP1xy1e4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I just tried sending a test on the "micro announce" list and my e-mail bounced... No wonder some people are still posting announcements here. ;o) Best, Dale Dale Lloyd: http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html and/OAR: http://www.and-oar.org/ NEW: Turba / Lateral Minor (Stasisfield.com) NEW: Volatile And Fixed Principles (leerraum) --Boundary_(ID_fuGZIsQnzPDkjQP1xy1e4g)-- From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 05:35:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35057-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1805 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:35:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 1795 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:35:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:34:59 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PeDaRO5NXVvIXWgT5w1UFBFmPnEIzB+2STW9W3BiXaskTdNNJVfvFGnAIdi0wzEENee1O1fHNfz+s5PeVOPGNzZ5VwWewMPT1hwmVWu5uqTu5ccQUoTyGNvkJBvYv98jF7zn3ueXk+E5ofSVuIf+qc0pKOIuoTLp7cJtMvznN/A= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I like the idea of improvising with Market St. on backup. I'm curious about your approach. andrew --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > Fwiw I find "unintentional" is a distinction > that only meaningfully > > > adheres to human-produced sound; that it's a > category error > > > (irrelevant) to call weather-sound (say) > intentional or un-. > > > > i was at a Phil Dadson concert (legendary NZ > improviser/artist) last > > night, and at one point he was making music that > merged with noises the > > air conditioning in the room was making, made you > /aware/ of the sound > > of it even. at what point does the unintentional > become the intentional? > > For me that's an easy one -- the A/C was of course > unintentional at a > casual level of description, but Dadson was > intentionally integrating it > (based on your description) into the "authorized" > soundscape... I'm pretty > sure I remember perceiving Richard Chartier doing > that with the rattle of > the HVAC at CEAIT a couple years ago, but it could > have been "active > perception" on my part. :) > > I may have said before on the list ~ for me the > moments I have most valued > as a performer are *exactly* those moments when I > can encourage things > like this -- a breakdown between the categories of > desired and undesired > sound -- between those phenomena we award our > attention to and attend to, > and those we reject as... "noise." > > Harmonizing with the 60 cycle hum in the house PA, > always nice. Live > miking the audience or live processing local > environmental sound is > something people have done numerous times at the > Field Effets shows I've > hosted. The Infrasound collaboration between Scott > Arford and Randy Yau > was memorable for the way they intentionally used > very low frequency sound > (not true infrasound incidentally) to "reify" the > architecture of our > building -- by making different loose window panes > etc rattle and > rustle at their various resonant frequenciees. > > For me some of my best moments have happened > presenting work at the > Luggage Store here in SF, which is perched above a > noisy section of > "sketchy" Market Street -- the whistles, > above-ground rail, subway, crazy > people, pimps, sirens, etc. inevitably integrate > into whatever I'm doing > and several times I've been able to blend the > boundaries enough to provoke > people to talk with me about afterwards. > > If someone momentarily forgets what they're > "supposed" to be listening to > and hears everything in their environment naively... > I consider my work > done. :) > > best, > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > | quod omne animal post | > | cogitum est triste... | > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Benson www.cloud-machine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Thu Mar 31 02:02:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35056-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36113 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:02:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 36096 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:02:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: Damian Stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Fwiw I find "unintentional" is a distinction that only meaningfully > > adheres to human-produced sound; that it's a category error > > (irrelevant) to call weather-sound (say) intentional or un-. > > i was at a Phil Dadson concert (legendary NZ improviser/artist) last > night, and at one point he was making music that merged with noises the > air conditioning in the room was making, made you /aware/ of the sound > of it even. at what point does the unintentional become the intentional? For me that's an easy one -- the A/C was of course unintentional at a casual level of description, but Dadson was intentionally integrating it (based on your description) into the "authorized" soundscape... I'm pretty sure I remember perceiving Richard Chartier doing that with the rattle of the HVAC at CEAIT a couple years ago, but it could have been "active perception" on my part. :) I may have said before on the list ~ for me the moments I have most valued as a performer are *exactly* those moments when I can encourage things like this -- a breakdown between the categories of desired and undesired sound -- between those phenomena we award our attention to and attend to, and those we reject as... "noise." Harmonizing with the 60 cycle hum in the house PA, always nice. Live miking the audience or live processing local environmental sound is something people have done numerous times at the Field Effets shows I've hosted. The Infrasound collaboration between Scott Arford and Randy Yau was memorable for the way they intentionally used very low frequency sound (not true infrasound incidentally) to "reify" the architecture of our building -- by making different loose window panes etc rattle and rustle at their various resonant frequenciees. For me some of my best moments have happened presenting work at the Luggage Store here in SF, which is perched above a noisy section of "sketchy" Market Street -- the whistles, above-ground rail, subway, crazy people, pimps, sirens, etc. inevitably integrate into whatever I'm doing and several times I've been able to blend the boundaries enough to provoke people to talk with me about afterwards. If someone momentarily forgets what they're "supposed" to be listening to and hears everything in their environment naively... I consider my work done. :) best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 31 01:24:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35055-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1684 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:24:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 1674 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:24:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:24:17 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [REMINDER] NAW AND FRIENDS LIVE APRIL 1ST 2005 mtl To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx APRIL 1st 2005 Noise Factory Records will be holding another one of its artist showcase series at the Casa Del Popolo. This time around Noise Factory presents label artist NAW performing live along side 2 of his favorite local Montreal electronic music making collectives; Le-son666's very own INTERCOM and Panospria's ARGON FLOOZY. The night will be a FREE no frills but all thrills type of evening and promisses to feature all new material by these 3 local montreal electronic music talents. so make sure to come out and get your chin scratching, head bobbing, body moving, feet shuffeling thing on FRIDAY APRIL 1 2005 at the Casa Del Popolo 4873 St-Laurent, show time is 9pm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FRIDAY APRIL 1st 2005 Noise Factory Records brings you another night of free live music featuring live performances by: NAW - gearing up for yet another new release this time on the newly founded quebec city label pertin_nce, as well as an up comming appearence at this years SONAR festival in barcelona spain, NAW will once again showcase his own personal take on post electronic dance music featureing all new never heard befor material, so get ready to have your dancing feet on and your head ready for some bobbing as you never really know what to expect from a live set by this artist. also appearing on this special night will be 2 of naws personal favorite local artists: INTERCOM - le-son666's very onw electronic trio will showcase new digital beats and crunchy noises, dancing or trying-to-dance is recommended. ARGON FLOOZY - panospria's newset sextet project will construct and manipulate a sonic whirlpool of moody music and dense soundscapes with their unusual instruments and strange techniques. and rounding out the nigths entertainment will be last minute special guest mp3 dj selector DJ NAWPOD NAWPOD will be helping to keep the party going before, after and in between the live musical acts for the evening with various selections from canadian indie mp3 netlabels. when: FRIDAY APRIL 1 2005 where: CASA DEL POPOLO, 4873 St-Laurent time: 9pm how much: FREE for more info visit: http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com contact xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx or xxx@xxxxxx.xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BIOS/INFO NOISE FACTORY RECORDS http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com Taken from various interviews with Joe English, Noise Factory Records the man behind the label: "All roads lead back to Joy Division. They were the most influential band during my teen years. From that point, everything else fell into place. At one point I was so into electronic industrial music that I began adopting the anti-guitar philosophy of Test Department. That didnt last long. The next major influence came with David Sylvians Secrets of the Beehive. I suppose these two musical styles represent the scope of what would become Noise Factory Records. As for the Noise Factory, it began as a college radio show on CHRY during the early 90s. The show played mainly industrial, electronic and ambient music. We had a couple of parties under the Noise Factory moniker, but once we graduated university it all kind of ended. Life began to play its cruel little game. I got a job at IBM and hated every day. So I started the label in 1996. I knew nothing about running a label, and I had no contacts but I had a good friend that was in a band, and wanted to put out an album. It made sense at the time and it still makes sense." "The Noise Factory is not made up of musicians or former record executives. The Noise Factory came into existence out of a need and desire for something new. We truly believe the music we represent is some of the most wonderful and beautiful music currently being made. Unlike many indie labels we offer a different viewpoint, one of the music lover and consumer." NAW www.noisefactoryrecords.com montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clevermusic, pertin_nce, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. naw has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada. to co-enside with his recent releases on noise factory and clevermusic and plans to return to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. naw is currently preparing a new release titled terrain vague for the pertin_nce label out of quebec city due for release in early April 2005. INTERCOM http://www.le-son666.com/intercom The electronic trio intercom will showcase new digital beats and crunchy noises (some of it could appear on their upcoming full-lenght) along with radical reworkings of their first self-titled cd. Dancing/trying-to-dance is recommended. And be warned: any boring chin-strokers will be shot on sight. Okay? Argon Floozy http://www.panospria.com/ A local sextet mostly comprised of members from the Panospria collective, Argon Floozy is their latest group project since Kokoro No Jojishi in 2003. On this evening they will construct and manipulate a sonic whirlpool of moody music and dense soundscapes with their unusual instruments and strange techniques. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 21:43:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35054-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19042 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:43:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 19032 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:43:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:43:17 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I think maybe the word unintentional is an improper choice in this > context. He seems to be intentionally recording a sound that is a sonic > feature of a given location. Granted, he is not staging the sound, or > manipulating the drain, etc. But to call any sound that is recorded > with such care and precision unintentional is misleading. Perhaps a > word like "field recording" or "non-instrumental" or "incidental" might > be more appropriate. To clarify: in the original context I was refering to "unintentional sounds" as the *subject* of my phonography ("aesthetically motivated field recording" is how I usually gloss phonography, not my coinage of course; "philosophically" or "conceptually" or "politically" etc might work as well). Not the result (recording). I.e. it's not my *recording* which is unintentional (just as you say). Though my wife might say it's become reflexive and unconsidered (on a bad day) ;). I was offering this recording as an example which documents the kinds of sounds I find are the focus of my field recording practice: compelling but unintentional ones (or: conjunctions and serendipities and soundscapes). Unintentional on the part of any agent in the sound's creation. Unintentional in the brute lay sense of conscious/design decision. The fact that this is a distinctive "feature" (soundmark) of the space/time it's located in is precisely why I find it interesting and why I recorded it. :) Fwiw I find "unintentional" is a distinction that only meaningfully adheres to human-produced sound; that it's a category error (irrelevant) to call weather-sound (say) intentional or un-. On the other hand there's something interesting when you extend this distinction to the sounds of life, especially along the boundary conditions -- e.g. the yeast cells which vibrate in the human-audible frequency range -- but that's just becase we have complicated ideas about non-human (living) agency. Do frogs intend to attract mates or mark their territory? But then again... do I? :) best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 20:32:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35053-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91339 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:32:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 91329 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:32:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:30:23 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] collaborate? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx xxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > High, > > I am looking for collaborators in the vacinity of Hamburg, Germany. I > am a bass player interested in recording/performing with musicians who > code and improvise with software (like Super Collider, Max/MSP and > Reaktor). For those of you not familiar with me or my work, i am > primarily an improvisor with electric upright bass (as opposed to a > laptop) as my instrument. I explore drone based structures. For a more > concrete idea of what i do, check out my latest release "Exquisite > Noise" here: http://cdbaby.com/jairrohmpw. I am in Hamurg an average of > four days a month and would like to use the opportunity to make new > music with new people. > > Thanks, > > Jair-Rohm Parker Wells > Hello, I am mediartist, programmer and musician from Hamburg, contact me on or offlist to get more info about local possibilities like Heiner Metzgers Impro Group, the Hörbar venue and myself... Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.disorder-records.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 20:17:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35052-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84116 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:17:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 84106 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:17:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:17:19 -0600 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <003301c53563$ec4163f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=d69b1UvlhCk96CNZE04pny6Ue9DKyy1GulDXtxP8TmR3rvHpnE6qJdf9DcgDLlRP9mQnlIbATdA/Fq+ele7nOWYzazos1caw3GoE9gTQPMZ9hRFsqKSI4R/oO2/DBV810gn5xYi+2FrZWDd80kk0MjzqUAvzOVhW4SJPG2p9qtw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <003301c53563$ec4163f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > the one that springs to mind is an audible fart in a public place causing > embarrassment/shame to the originator Hah! Oh man, I must be an unintentional noise artist then. ~Kyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 20:17:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35051-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83107 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:16:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 83097 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:16:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <003301c53563$ec4163f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Y+ymNlvmpnBpASaPcXDLJk1p53MijZwcalB5NI9moUFN7PlOjTi9MPcfMAmhCttlSWsxc865mCX9S0cqof9viJGPqZdcsmFa+8mzcmmli6UluVU6uTGxWBlx4i+tuxv0zhwkxERgFh6UbtPTk463IwdOT4V+Fx9BvEFCvsjJe+U= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think maybe the word unintentional is an improper choice in this context. He seems to be intentionally recording a sound that is a sonic feature of a given location. Granted, he is not staging the sound, or manipulating the drain, etc. But to call any sound that is recorded with such care and precision unintentional is misleading. Perhaps a word like "field recording" or "non-instrumental" or "incidental" might be more appropriate. just my two cents, andrew --- "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > it should be a sound that is made but is not > intended > > 'intended' implies a subjective decision that no > sound should be emitted by > design > > so an unintended sound would be a sound that has > leaked out due to a > fault/oversight of a designed system or system which > retained in a state of > control by a 'thinking' entity.... > > the one that springs to mind is an audible fart in a > public place causing > embarrassment/shame to the originator > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "andrew benson" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound > > > > Sounds pretty intentional to me. Am I missing > > something? > > > > andrew > > --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> Earlier this month I wrote: > >> > >> > A logical conclusion from the premise of > >> phonography ("unintentional > >> > sound is worth listening to") is that the goal > is > >> not so much to share > >> > specific recordings, but to cultivate and > >> inculcate a particular kind of > >> > intentional listening (ie attention) both as a > >> practioner and in the > >> > "audience." > >> > >> Kim asked me what I meant by "unintentional > sound"; > >> this weekend I > >> happened to record what I consider to be a > perfect > >> example; I just > >> put up an excerpt on my site here: > >> > >> > >> > > > http://www.quietamerican.org/download/dropbox/Harbin/ > >> > >> The sound in question was the continual chaotic > (in > >> both a technical and > >> visceral sense) burbling of a swimming pool drain > at > >> some developed > >> hotsprings near Calistoga. > >> > >> The two recordings "Harbin Hotsprings Pool..." > are > >> the drain. It was at > >> water level and was making variations on this > >> variously musical and static > >> burble for the three days we were there. I > recorded > >> it for about an hour > >> total and was interrupted by security only twice. > :) > >> > >> As labeled, one was recorded with my head-mounted > >> Sonic Studios DSM-6S/EH > >> mics, and the other was my first try with a new > >> Aquarian H2 hydrophone > >> (not simultaneous recordings sadly). > >> > >> The generator off to stage left also provides the > >> resonant hum in the > >> hydrophone recording I believe. A good argument > for > >> a directional mic! > >> > >> Btw the other two files in that directory were > frogs > >> recorded a quarter > >> mile away -- one (as labeled) that I took a 30 > >> second stab at "cleaing up" > >> to remove the gray noise of a stream a few > hundred > >> feet away and some mic > >> hiss... > >> > >> best, > >> aaron > >> > >> xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > >> http://www.quietamerican.org > >> > >> | quod omne animal post | > >> | cogitum est triste... | > >> > >> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > >> > > > > Andrew Benson > > www.cloud-machine.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Wed Mar 30 20:06:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35050-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77374 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:06:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 77358 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:06:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:06:11 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003301c53563$ec4163f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx it should be a sound that is made but is not intended 'intended' implies a subjective decision that no sound should be emitted by design so an unintended sound would be a sound that has leaked out due to a fault/oversight of a designed system or system which retained in a state of control by a 'thinking' entity.... the one that springs to mind is an audible fart in a public place causing embarrassment/shame to the originator ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrew benson" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound > Sounds pretty intentional to me. Am I missing > something? > > andrew > --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Earlier this month I wrote: >> >> > A logical conclusion from the premise of >> phonography ("unintentional >> > sound is worth listening to") is that the goal is >> not so much to share >> > specific recordings, but to cultivate and >> inculcate a particular kind of >> > intentional listening (ie attention) both as a >> practioner and in the >> > "audience." >> >> Kim asked me what I meant by "unintentional sound"; >> this weekend I >> happened to record what I consider to be a perfect >> example; I just >> put up an excerpt on my site here: >> >> >> > http://www.quietamerican.org/download/dropbox/Harbin/ >> >> The sound in question was the continual chaotic (in >> both a technical and >> visceral sense) burbling of a swimming pool drain at >> some developed >> hotsprings near Calistoga. >> >> The two recordings "Harbin Hotsprings Pool..." are >> the drain. It was at >> water level and was making variations on this >> variously musical and static >> burble for the three days we were there. I recorded >> it for about an hour >> total and was interrupted by security only twice. :) >> >> As labeled, one was recorded with my head-mounted >> Sonic Studios DSM-6S/EH >> mics, and the other was my first try with a new >> Aquarian H2 hydrophone >> (not simultaneous recordings sadly). >> >> The generator off to stage left also provides the >> resonant hum in the >> hydrophone recording I believe. A good argument for >> a directional mic! >> >> Btw the other two files in that directory were frogs >> recorded a quarter >> mile away -- one (as labeled) that I took a 30 >> second stab at "cleaing up" >> to remove the gray noise of a stream a few hundred >> feet away and some mic >> hiss... >> >> best, >> aaron >> >> xxxxx@xxxx.xxx >> http://www.quietamerican.org >> >> | quod omne animal post | >> | cogitum est triste... | >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > Andrew Benson > www.cloud-machine.com > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. > http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 20:00:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35049-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73035 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:00:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 73025 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:00:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=2KqWvy4hWuBN4KZXti55jo7e+9450z100jT5Xu0Z6Jcodck1vXWA47JhQp119F64+KJsEexKBDUdFPFi/0hDNMWDH92kq0aK2ycbGtWE9Y0tWFgRmRVu4tV2RFbiF/4+M/MsmJe9+fDaC1Udt5FnhZo0O6Ja0q9GxcM1eapc9Wo= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sounds pretty intentional to me. Am I missing something? andrew --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > Earlier this month I wrote: > > > A logical conclusion from the premise of > phonography ("unintentional > > sound is worth listening to") is that the goal is > not so much to share > > specific recordings, but to cultivate and > inculcate a particular kind of > > intentional listening (ie attention) both as a > practioner and in the > > "audience." > > Kim asked me what I meant by "unintentional sound"; > this weekend I > happened to record what I consider to be a perfect > example; I just > put up an excerpt on my site here: > > > http://www.quietamerican.org/download/dropbox/Harbin/ > > The sound in question was the continual chaotic (in > both a technical and > visceral sense) burbling of a swimming pool drain at > some developed > hotsprings near Calistoga. > > The two recordings "Harbin Hotsprings Pool..." are > the drain. It was at > water level and was making variations on this > variously musical and static > burble for the three days we were there. I recorded > it for about an hour > total and was interrupted by security only twice. :) > > As labeled, one was recorded with my head-mounted > Sonic Studios DSM-6S/EH > mics, and the other was my first try with a new > Aquarian H2 hydrophone > (not simultaneous recordings sadly). > > The generator off to stage left also provides the > resonant hum in the > hydrophone recording I believe. A good argument for > a directional mic! > > Btw the other two files in that directory were frogs > recorded a quarter > mile away -- one (as labeled) that I took a 30 > second stab at "cleaing up" > to remove the gray noise of a stream a few hundred > feet away and some mic > hiss... > > best, > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > | quod omne animal post | > | cogitum est triste... | > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Benson www.cloud-machine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Wed Mar 30 11:50:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35048-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88730 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:50:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 88718 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:50:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 03:48:56 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Unintentional sound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Earlier this month I wrote: > A logical conclusion from the premise of phonography ("unintentional > sound is worth listening to") is that the goal is not so much to share > specific recordings, but to cultivate and inculcate a particular kind of > intentional listening (ie attention) both as a practioner and in the > "audience." Kim asked me what I meant by "unintentional sound"; this weekend I happened to record what I consider to be a perfect example; I just put up an excerpt on my site here: http://www.quietamerican.org/download/dropbox/Harbin/ The sound in question was the continual chaotic (in both a technical and visceral sense) burbling of a swimming pool drain at some developed hotsprings near Calistoga. The two recordings "Harbin Hotsprings Pool..." are the drain. It was at water level and was making variations on this variously musical and static burble for the three days we were there. I recorded it for about an hour total and was interrupted by security only twice. :) As labeled, one was recorded with my head-mounted Sonic Studios DSM-6S/EH mics, and the other was my first try with a new Aquarian H2 hydrophone (not simultaneous recordings sadly). The generator off to stage left also provides the resonant hum in the hydrophone recording I believe. A good argument for a directional mic! Btw the other two files in that directory were frogs recorded a quarter mile away -- one (as labeled) that I took a 30 second stab at "cleaing up" to remove the gray noise of a stream a few hundred feet away and some mic hiss... best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 30 10:17:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35047-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 05:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66546 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 66536 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:17:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:17:18 +0200 From: xxx@xxxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] collaborate? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx High, I am looking for collaborators in the vacinity of Hamburg, Germany. I am a bass player interested in recording/performing with musicians who code and improvise with software (like Super Collider, Max/MSP and Reaktor). For those of you not familiar with me or my work, i am primarily an improvisor with electric upright bass (as opposed to a laptop) as my instrument. I explore drone based structures. For a more concrete idea of what i do, check out my latest release "Exquisite Noise" here: http://cdbaby.com/jairrohmpw. I am in Hamurg an average of four days a month and would like to use the opportunity to make new music with new people. Thanks, Jair-Rohm Parker Wells "Dedicated to the pursuit of excellence" Glass Thought Communications Tel. +46 768 700976 http://members.chello.se/gtc/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Mar 30 00:13:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35045-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85529 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:13:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 85508 invoked from network); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:13:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:12:29 +1000 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FW: (Melbourne) two events ... In-reply-to: <BE702BAB.11117%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE702C0D.11152%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Two Melbourne events to take note of this week THURSDAY 31st of March Curse ov dialect Liones Barrage DJ Bacon Dubwise & bP play First floor doors open 9pm until v.late $6 ____________________ SUNDAY 3rd of April Steve Law vs Stephen Richards Ai Yamamoto Paul Abad (Bris) vs Jean P00le John Aslanidis EZ Flux & bP play Loop doors open 7pm until 1am 23 Meyers Place Melb CBD $5 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 20:46:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35044-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7379 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:46:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 7367 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:46:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:45:59 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [playlist] framework - 25.03.05 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <03f701c534a0$502411c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_r+5EWCG0z8BKXAkpd+kSJA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_r+5EWCG0z8BKXAkpd+kSJA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +++++ hi folks - this will be the last framework playlist posted to the microsound discussion list. if you'd like to keep receiving them, please either subscribe to the new microsound-announce list (http://microsound.nexthop.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce), or write to me directly to be added to my private mailing list. thanks for your time! patrick +++++ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework broadcasts live every friday (except the first one of each month) on resonance104.4fm in london (uk) or worldwide on http://www.resonancefm.com between 8:30 and 9:30pm gmt, and is repeated the following wednesday between 11:00am and 12:00 noon gmt next live broadcast: 08.04.05 ~ time zone converter: http://www.thesaturnv.com/converter.html RESONANCE FM'S PROGRAMMING IS PRODUCED ENTIRELY BY VOLUNTEERS; PLEASE HELP US TO CONTINUE BY MAKING A DONATION. 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley an extensive look at the new touch records release by jacob kirkegaard this week, which is a collection of 'geothermal recordings of vibrations in the ground around the area of krisuvik, geysir and myvatin in iceland.' kirkegaard goes on to explain that 'the recordings have been carried out using accelerometers inserted in to the earth at various places around the geysers, mapping the volcanic aspects of volcanic activity at the surface of the earth.' a fascinating listen... we also heard new works by mnortham, cria cuervos, xabier erkizia, hitoshi kojo, and a documentation of pauline oliveros' nyc ringout demonstration (consisting of a score for mass public bell-ringing), as recorded by ben owen. and congrats to john exby, of littleton, colorado, usa, who won the copy of the split mnortham/tbc/brume cd that we gave away in our last regular show. we're building up a little stack of giveaways, so tune in if you'd like to snag one. and if your sending material in, consider sending 2 copies if you'd like to host a giveaway - as obviously it'll be so good that if you only send one i'll have to keep it! ; ) again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11.03.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 30.03.05, at 11:00am gmt (artist / title / album / label) felicity ford / framework intro a watery intro, featuring some washing, some whistling and even some whirring... http://www.littlesongbox.co.uk jacob kirkegaard / ala / eldfjall / touch early rumbles make way for a shifting elemental rattle http://www.fonik.dk, http://www.touchmusic.ork.uk mnortham / track 2, track 3 / oreads / - self-released cdr of reworkings of sounds created for 'belle confusion 0247' with francisco lopez http://preg.org/~mnortham ben owen / edit 1 / ringout observance nyc 082704 / - documentation of pauline oliveros ringout demo - see the website below for more info ringout: http://www.ringout.org, ben owen: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx jacob kirkegaard / gaea / eldfjall / touch quiet distant knocking, wisping flows, eventual almost animal swarming http://www.fonik.dk, http://www.touchmusic.ork.uk xabier erkizia / entresol III / entresol / antifrost overlapping series of background statics, pure low level environmental recording http://www.ertza.net, http://www.antifrost.gr cria cuervos / track 1 / leitfossilien / mystery sea minimal whispers, organic cries, caught in the rain http://www.criacuervos.4t.com, http://www.mysterysea.net jacob kirkegaard / nerthus / eldfjall / touch vicious windy beating - like being on the wing of an airplane http://www.fonik.dk, http://www.touchmusic.ork.uk hitoshi kojo / hiruko / ezo / optia grating metal, creaking hinges, an icy hollow rattling xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx jacob kirkegaard / coatlicue / eldfjall / touch deeper, engine-like rumbling; stay alert - eruptions? http://www.fonik.dk, http://www.touchmusic.ork.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_r+5EWCG0z8BKXAkpd+kSJA)-- From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 20:35:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35043-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1835 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:35:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 1744 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:35:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:20 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new interfacer group In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=oxWGAr/umtLQjlR+Zg/UMoIq5ICFg8AhbWnxn14RnsuMQK8DjE9EGyfUcZoabNNc+AEK/VA5efykSvtr0Zw3JtMCpSHnDJrmLr8smFKa7aB2XrFDiox5K1kub5dvSfo4lytO+YyaVWX/k3gwPTb3JYnUmWCACare198C6ySDFwU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have created a new yahoo group for people interested in custom control interfaces, i.e. modified joysticks, input devices, etc. to join: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Andrew Benson www.cloud-machine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 19:43:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35042-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79256 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:43:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 79245 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:43:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:43:32 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Announce List Behavior... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-D5A7575CA08A11D99614000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx john saylor wrote on 3/29/05: >mailman [the list software] can be configured to have several >different kinds of behavior. the settings are pretty much defaults >now. the 'reply' preferences usually end up going into a rat hole >[endless discussion of opinions masquerading as bald truth], but if >the over all community would prefer a config change, i'm quite willing >to implement it. Not trying to make more work for you, John, but I'd think that both lists ought to function in the same way. I think it would keep confusion to a minimum. >threads are often based on the subject line. what header were you >looking for? Again, I don't know much about this stuff, but I think the "In-reply-to:", "Message-id:", and "References:" fields would be important. But maybe some of these are added by the client mailer and not the list server, however... >Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:25:48 +0100 >From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** >In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Message-id: <l03130309be6a6a38ff6c@[213.84.105.55]> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Precedence: bulk >Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm >X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner >X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N >References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >X-No-Archive: yes >Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 17:02:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35041-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9786 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:02:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 9773 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:02:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:43 -0500 From: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Announce List Behavior... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> To: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, anechoic <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ryEIy8cdlgQ9ln0j7+5SShmvcYx9m3YVc6qn84h1QvWgpMIT2IW8qTTz4XRuSnuvuxahWFT8Y4kPgCzX9xDwNau2HmrOALmusxwPhZvZlJDNiy16hJVZwAt801vXoGKtl0y+FUpUIcu/89rJRJIJzrqve37HHmvQfJ7BZStT3h0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:30 -0500, vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > If you reply, you're replied personally to the sender and not to the > list. mailman [the list software] can be configured to have several different kinds of behavior. the settings are pretty much defaults now. the 'reply' preferences usually end up going into a rat hole [endless discussion of opinions masquerading as bald truth], but if the over all community would prefer a config change, i'm quite willing to implement it. > Also, I'm no mail list guru, but looking at the headers, it appears that > there isn't any support for threads. threads are often based on the subject line. what header were you looking for? -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 17:02:47 2005 Return-path: <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1828185rng for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.31 with SMTP id t31mr1548360rna; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.9.60 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:02:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:43 -0500 From: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: Announce List Behavior... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> To: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, anechoic <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ryEIy8cdlgQ9ln0j7+5SShmvcYx9m3YVc6qn84h1QvWgpMIT2IW8qTTz4XRuSnuvuxahWFT8Y4kPgCzX9xDwNau2HmrOALmusxwPhZvZlJDNiy16hJVZwAt801vXoGKtl0y+FUpUIcu/89rJRJIJzrqve37HHmvQfJ7BZStT3h0= References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:30 -0500, vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > If you reply, you're replied personally to the sender and not to the > list. mailman [the list software] can be configured to have several different kinds of behavior. the settings are pretty much defaults now. the 'reply' preferences usually end up going into a rat hole [endless discussion of opinions masquerading as bald truth], but if the over all community would prefer a config change, i'm quite willing to implement it. > Also, I'm no mail list guru, but looking at the headers, it appears that > there isn't any support for threads. threads are often based on the subject line. what header were you looking for? -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 16:39:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35040-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4025 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:39:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 4013 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:39:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:39:51 -0500 From: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BFUB2tij5G8WpOTnefx9svfUduLJEiq4g1UGk2p/GugRkUdWAdqSvTBppwe3dTJYOiI3U+WrYhie3n+c1VbtSfwl/Vgb7ZH+2PR0GD6RdyrcOngRjmEuZbiH17WUshVfCHgV0CX4kjZFU9sA5fgRwweXBvgtDRZb+l2FvLw+g4U= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi > Matt Davignon wrote on 3/27/05: > >I did try to sign up for the annoucements list. It > >sent me an email to confirm, but when I replied to > >that email, it bounced. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:16:51 -0500, vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I'm getting a similar response: sorry- i'm fixing that now. if you have problems with the microsound-announce list, please send them my way. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 05:06:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35039-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51135 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:06:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 51119 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:06:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:06:32 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Skypager pulls the feeding tube In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? 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Tue Mar 29 04:37:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35038-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44322 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:37:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 44312 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:37:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:37:17 +0800 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] [news] headphone festival... In-reply-to: <r02010500-1038-B569C3189FD211D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010500-1038-B569C3189FD211D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4389057.stm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 29 03:38:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35037-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30141 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:38:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 30129 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:38:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:37:36 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ignore my test, please In-reply-to: <r02010500-1038-B569C3189FD211D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-E52F4A80A00311D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx vze26m98 wrote on 3/28/05: <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 21:45:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35036-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20032 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:45:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 20022 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:45:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:30 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Announce List Behavior... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: anechoic <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, john saylor <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-B569C3189FD211D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx No, not an etiquette missive- Thanks to Gregory Elliot, the following seems to be going on with the announce-list: If you reply, you're replied personally to the sender and not to the list. You have to "reply all" to add the list to the cc: heading. I know lists all have their personalities, but I tend to prefer the ones that reply to the list primarily and only include the sender in a "reply all." Also, I'm no mail list guru, but looking at the headers, it appears that there isn't any support for threads. It might be nice to have this for those who read with mailers that support threading, like Mutt on Linux, etc... Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 18:01:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35035-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49690 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:01:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 49680 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:01:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:57:41 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] have an old PC collecting dust? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2005/03/23/ linuxmusic.html tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/6fck2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 17:09:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35034-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33642 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:09:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 33630 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:09:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:09:15 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] Phillips Toucam? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-1D6F15D89FAC11D9A54F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey- Anybody know where to get the Phillips toucam for cheap in the US? 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Mon Mar 28 14:34:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35030-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87788 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:34:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 87777 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:34:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:34:21 +0200 From: Filip Gheysen <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FW: glasvocht / nosordo compilation X-Originating-IP: [81.83.69.12] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2005 14:34:21.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B6E5720:01C533A3] >From: Filip Gheysen <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: glasvocht / nosordo compilation >Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:32:35 -0800 (PST) > >"We're for the Unknown, Unbought & Unbossed" >Glasvocht / Nosordo compilation cd > >all info about artists: >http://users.telenet.be/sub-ported/gvcd04/glasvocht-nosordo.htm > >info & order: >xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! 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Mon Mar 28 12:18:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35029-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50088 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:18:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 50078 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:18:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:16:51 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-44A677C09F8311D9A0C9000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Matt Davignon wrote on 3/27/05: >I did try to sign up for the annoucements list. It >sent me an email to confirm, but when I replied to >that email, it bounced. I'm getting a similar response: >>Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: >> >> Recipient address: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx Reason: Remote >> SMTP server has rejected address Diagnostic code: smtp;550 >> <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>: Recipient >> address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table Remote system: >> dns;www.nexthop.net (TCP|167.206.4.202|26098|209.6.82.6|25) >> (mail.or8.net ESMTP Postfix) Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 11:41:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35028-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43080 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:41:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 43069 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:41:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:41:00 +0200 From: dimitri <xxxxxxx@x-x-x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OTO ONKYO playlist To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x-x-x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bGvbwGlMX8CSuedueT7jvw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_bGvbwGlMX8CSuedueT7jvw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List, This is OTO ONKYO, radio show broadcasted in Bordeaux (France) on Radio Sauvagine (94.9FM) every friday at 20h30 This is the last playlist >>>> Akihiro Kubota _ 020331 live Weltecho _ #4 (disc 2) Weltecho _ #5 (disc 2) Eric Leonardson _ Live at sing sweet software Heller _ ETE2.2 _ .09..03. _ n_rec Greg Davis + Keith Fullertonwithman _ Williamsburg, va _ clip Stephan Mathieu _ d as in dub (live) Section Amour _ EVENT 20_14 (live) Michael Gendreau _ Pas de ligne au No 3 The Remote Viewer _ be honest _ the noise & the city (v/a) -_-_-_unknow_-_-_- Curtis Roads _ Half Life part 1_ Or some computer music (2) (v/a) Phonecia _ non specific accoustic simulation _ Or some computer music (2) (v/a) http://oto-onkyo.blogspot.com Thanks to everyone who send me sounds, i will diffuse them soon. cheers, Dimitri --Boundary_(ID_bGvbwGlMX8CSuedueT7jvw)-- From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 07:03:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35027-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 43318 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:03:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 43308 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:03:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:03:08 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I did try to sign up for the annoucements list. It sent me an email to confirm, but when I replied to that email, it bounced. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 28 06:55:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35026-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40161 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:52:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 40151 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 06:52:37 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:52:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I still do not understand why we have to >segregate the content and the discussion >of the content. or am I being obtuse?? From my experience with different music discussion mailing lists, I think this is a good idea. If a discussion list gets to a point where there's 3 times as many announcements as discussion, people tend to stop looking to that list for discussion. On the other hand, one of the local lists here (SF bay area new music discussion) also followed the path of seperating the discussion from announcements. The result of that is the announcement list has many more subscribers - lots of people who want to keep up on shows, but don't have time or mailbox space to read through all the dialog. I actually run a list now that has no discussion and no gig announcements. 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Mon Mar 28 01:05:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35024-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57900 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:05:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 57890 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:05:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:05:45 -0800 (PST) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=eVicJXZ7P+7dhTsrPQ3lqqWvVm0+6qBmqVC+UutQUr1PIaLqIN2B2xk8J32mj0lfJ+7c5kXrXdVhsWj+X2ohxu2AJZyLUVs8yJSxlEmd1W6m1OoPIiPJzkmmkL5mpSyh1dHSm7u6078+i6Z3xcAZPTUmAxe4C9PGP2eDhI6OdBk= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think this is great. should make both discussion and annoucements more effective and focused. thanks john and kim! -andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sun Mar 27 21:27:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35023-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5976 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:27:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 5955 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:26:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:26:50 -0400 From: microbio <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Suramerica Electronica To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Matched-Lists: [] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.81, clamav-milter version 0.81b on rs26s12.datacenter.cha.cantv.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.suramericaelectronica.org/ During the month of April Suramericelectronica, the internet community of latin american digital and electronic musicians, will be live-streaming his first Muestra en Linea de Música Electrónica y Digital from Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela and Mexico. The shows will be broadcasted every friday and saturday This is a great opportunity to get a good idea of what is going on in a continent that is integrating very fast and in which artists were used to have more contact with Europe and the USA than with their geographical neighbors. In the last last two years, interaction among Latin American musicians have increased substantially in part due to the internet, but also because of the recent electronic music festivals thrown in Peru, Colombia and Chile. With this sample, you will be able to get a taste of the well defined style of our scene characterized by the very spirit of our culture: diversity and openness: from Inka noise to minimal Gaucho and Mapuche IDM passing through Yanomami techno. We have put online some live-sets from past shows so that you have a reference of what is coming. Asteroide (Discos Invisibles) Tijuana, Mexico. setlive.mp3 | 22.23min | 40.9m <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/muestra_htm/asteroide.htm>> Cardopusher (-) Caracas, Venezuela.buenosgliches.mp3 | 22:26min | 41mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/buenos_glitches-cardo%201.mp3>> Cooptrol (Monteaudio) Montevideo, Uruguay. setsura.mp3 | 10:48min | 19.7mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/setsura-cooptrol%201.mp3>> Dilo (Zensible Rec) Buenos Aires , Argentina.liveset1.mp3 | 20:52min | 38.2mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/live_set1-dilo%201.mp3>> El Lazo Invisible (Discos Invisibles) Tijuana, Mexico.vaparati.mp3 | 21:29min | 39.3mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/vaparati_1-lazoinvisible%201.mp3>> Gurtz (Zensible Rec) Buenos Aires , Argentina. liveset.mp3 | 48:14min | 66.1mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/live_set-gurtz.mp3>> I/O (Discos invisibles) Tijuana, Mexico. sur.mp3 | 11:51min | 21.6mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/sur-io%201.mp3>> Protov (Series - Microbio) Medellin, Colombia.en_vivo.mp3 | 28:52min | 52.8mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/en_vivo-protov%201.mp3>> Rafael L. Garnica (LAE - Microbio) Merida, Venezuela. valecillos.mp3 | 26:33min | 46.6mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/valecillos%201.mp3>> Yopoman (Microbio) Merida, Venezuela. novela.mp3 | 38:12min | 69.9mb <<http://sur.microbiorecords.net/mp3/novela.mp3>> --------------------------------------- www.microbiorecords.net www.biodata.microbiorecords.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 27 13:56:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35022-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3413 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:56:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 3403 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:56:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:57:28 -0500 From: Chantale Laplante <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] munich To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi everyone, I am a composer - improviser based in Montreal and I have been invited to play at the Music Unlimited Festival in Wells (Austria) next Fall - ---- since this is not next door I am trying to connect with possible other performances---- I am curious about Munich.... Would anybody have information about the music scene of this Bavarian city------ Thank you Chantale Laplante http://www.electrocd.com/bio.e/laplante_ch.html to hear Brilliant Days - For 4 Ears - http://www.electrocd.com/bio.e/laplante_ch.cat.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 27 09:53:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35021-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 04:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 04:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49949 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:53:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 49939 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:53:17 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:53:13 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] micrsound edition :: root of sine To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c532b2$cd880c60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <002801c5320f$150933b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx root of sine :: microsound edition is available at audiobulb records under the 'project' page :::: www.audiobulb.com this edition (complete with artwork) comprises of tracks developed from a single second of 440 hz sinewave tone. the artists include regular contributers to the microsound mailing list. tracknumber : artist : track name 00 btb - wrong sine 01 mdb - wood 02 future remix - nothing is pure (clean) 03 staplerfahrer - the very same thing 04 miulew - three users 05 gintas l - snn 06 rafael flores - cansine 07 atonal01 - 440 armonicos 08 pino the frog - iowa altar 09 john hanes - sinesong 10 j dippold - sinewich 11 norma block - landing artwork by zevan rosser http://www.shapevent.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 22:11:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35020-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82972 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:11:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 82962 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:11:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:11:44 -0800 From: Trevor <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <002801c5320f$150933b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> X-Originating-IP: 24.80.170.176 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <002801c5320f$150933b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have no problem with the 'great divide.' I appreciate both streams of content, and actually like the idea of separation from a simply organizational p.o.v. Less time sorting email is more time makinf music. Works for me. Quoting Joakim Lindén <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx>: > I thought that with "Announcements" he meant "advertising of > events/products" and that such things could be made in another list... > > For us who are on this list to read and discuss music, sounds and other such > > things this will not bother us - it'll probably even be better. For those of > > you who are involved in these scenes across the globe and like to be updated > > about that, the new list will provide you with that... > > Am I right, or did I misunderstand? > > Joakim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cory" <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:42 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** > > > >I still do not understand why we have to segregate the content > > and the discussion of the content. or am I being obtuse?? > > > > ------------------------------------- > > audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 19:18:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35018-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23816 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:17:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 23806 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:17:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:17:50 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <063301c531cf$72680c60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010500-1038-BF50D65C9E2B11D9832E000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.5 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I heard that Jeb Bush has called an emergency session of the Florida legislature to see if they can make the microsound list a ward of the state... <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 20:02:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35019-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41283 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:02:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 41271 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:02:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:21:15 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002801c5320f$150933b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I thought that with "Announcements" he meant "advertising of events/products" and that such things could be made in another list... For us who are on this list to read and discuss music, sounds and other such things this will not bother us - it'll probably even be better. For those of you who are involved in these scenes across the globe and like to be updated about that, the new list will provide you with that... Am I right, or did I misunderstand? Joakim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory" <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** >I still do not understand why we have to segregate the content > and the discussion of the content. or am I being obtuse?? > > ------------------------------------- > audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 06:46:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35017-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60967 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:46:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 60957 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:46:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:44:52 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <063301c531cf$72680c60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i hope everyone ignores the other list and posts their announcements here robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory" <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** >I still do not understand why we have to segregate the content > and the discussion of the content. or am I being obtuse?? > > ------------------------------------- > audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 04:41:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35015-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35352 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:41:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 35339 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:41:31 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:43:00 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'd like to propose another list: "micro-managed-sound" on this list only those that intend to micro-manage their interactions with musical genres via conceptual and or philosophic discussions may post announcements of said intentions. once those intentions have been thoroughly scrutinized, by the micro-micro-manager-managers, a committee will be formed, so that discussions can be had "off-line" and "tasks" assigned, which i think will lead to a much more efficient level of communication surrounding the management of all things micro. can i get a show of hands? what about a couple of shadow puppets and some sign language? at least maybe someone could flip me off. On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 06:16 PM, graham miller wrote: > democracy reduced to redundancy. brilliant. > > Kim Cascone wrote: > >> John Saylor has generously donated both his server space and time >> setting up a new list for members who want to promote content...it is >> called the microsound-announce list and can be found here: >> http://microsound.nexthop.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce >> ########################################### >> - this is where the microsound community should post announcements >> promoting their music, label, radio show, upcoming concert, or >> whatever... >> ########################################### >> - here is how the process of switching over is going to work: >> - all people who normally post announcements to the microsound list >> will have two weeks (Friday April 8) to update their address books and >> switch to the announce list for posting future microsound related >> announcements >> - after Friday April 8 members still posting announcements to the >> regular microsound list will be contacted by email and politely asked >> to redirect their posts to the microsound-announce list >> - if after a couple of polite requests the poster continues to post >> announcements to the regular list their microsound account will be >> terminated >> - the process should be pretty simple but if there are problems >> unsub'ing or sub'ing please contact: >> Andy Thomas <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> - for the microsound list >> or >> John Saylor <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> - for the microsound-announce list >> and let them know about the problem you are having... > >> >> thanks! >> KIM >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > David Fodel 720-280-3179 805 East Chester St. Lafayette, Colorado 80026 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 04:42:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35016-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36453 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:42:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 36443 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:42:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:42:44 -0500 From: Cory <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_UNAnPttHOQZZgkcMK/ti0Q)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tbxPA+lFPPUIajanTqi7ZFmcXGT98SwSkEuO7QOHM6OHeyipRO3t1+Ouk90nmfdc8EYdWy4tbXONWa6nqZla1U5utSokMdRTZt5hRli4JUV8aNPX6rkShKq7kgTDktbfekloGDH269xL9vrusv+mc+I13DuctDqs5cSHKWeWiuQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_UNAnPttHOQZZgkcMK/ti0Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still do not understand why we have to segregate the content and the discussion of the content. or am I being obtuse?? ------------------------------------- audio @ http://www.myspace.com/myo --Boundary_(ID_UNAnPttHOQZZgkcMK/ti0Q)-- From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 01:25:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35014-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88032 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:25:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 88019 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:25:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:25:48 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130309be6a6a38ff6c@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >democracy reduced to redundancy. brilliant. -??? ...uhh? 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Sat Mar 26 01:16:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35013-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84263 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:16:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 84243 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:16:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:16:13 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx democracy reduced to redundancy. brilliant. Kim Cascone wrote: > John Saylor has generously donated both his server space and time > setting up a new list for members who want to promote content...it is > called the microsound-announce list and can be found here: > http://microsound.nexthop.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce > ########################################### > - this is where the microsound community should post announcements > promoting their music, label, radio show, upcoming concert, or > whatever... > ########################################### > - here is how the process of switching over is going to work: > - all people who normally post announcements to the microsound list > will have two weeks (Friday April 8) to update their address books and > switch to the announce list for posting future microsound related > announcements > - after Friday April 8 members still posting announcements to the > regular microsound list will be contacted by email and politely asked > to redirect their posts to the microsound-announce list > - if after a couple of polite requests the poster continues to post > announcements to the regular list their microsound account will be > terminated > - the process should be pretty simple but if there are problems > unsub'ing or sub'ing please contact: > Andy Thomas <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> - for the microsound list > or > John Saylor <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> - for the microsound-announce list > and let them know about the problem you are having... > > thanks! > KIM > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 00:40:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35012-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73121 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:40:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 73110 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:40:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:05 -0500 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE6A19D1.8827%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 3/25/05 7:22 PM, Kim Cascone at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > John Saylor has generously donated both his server space and time > setting up a new list for members who want to promote content... Thanks for putting the time/work into this John! omnid -- OUT NOW:Authorised Version "Wrong Number" OUT NOW:Retinascan "Fragile Balance" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 26 00:22:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35011-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65983 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:22:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 65966 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:22:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:12 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ***IMPORTANT - microsound-announce*** To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Thomas Andy <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, John Saylor <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Saylor has generously donated both his server space and time setting up a new list for members who want to promote content...it is called the microsound-announce list and can be found here: http://microsound.nexthop.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce ########################################### - this is where the microsound community should post announcements promoting their music, label, radio show, upcoming concert, or whatever... ########################################### - here is how the process of switching over is going to work: - all people who normally post announcements to the microsound list will have two weeks (Friday April 8) to update their address books and switch to the announce list for posting future microsound related announcements - after Friday April 8 members still posting announcements to the regular microsound list will be contacted by email and politely asked to redirect their posts to the microsound-announce list - if after a couple of polite requests the poster continues to post announcements to the regular list their microsound account will be terminated - the process should be pretty simple but if there are problems unsub'ing or sub'ing please contact: Andy Thomas <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> - for the microsound list or John Saylor <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> - for the microsound-announce list and let them know about the problem you are having... thanks! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 21:07:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35010-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86569 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:07:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 86537 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:07:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:06:56 -0800 (PST) From: Curtis Cousins <xxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Two new DANADAX EPs released. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxx_xxxxxx_xxx@xxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fnqu1yBCFrsOWuUZx55J5g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MIO9M+b7XcvYIt3gZ3/U5n2X7dMXBuejREsxXGNyGFjaJXQ5yIihmGplSTef6ViqZjgf4srZ/CxkR1Fsjtt1dvucSRbWBskJXRgtrB2wM+EDHJ+BB5zU5VV9NNhowCYkoVXqFfohgP3GRjCulJr3vafjdkbES+OPYOKqkd0mL3I= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_fnqu1yBCFrsOWuUZx55J5g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2 DANADAX EPs have been released by Intelligentmachinery.net, a netlabel that specializes in Dark Ambient, Noise, and abstract music. The First EP is called "Trips Into Places Unknown," which can be found here: http://www.intelligentmachinery.net/releases/trips.php. It is described as "deep, dark drone and dark ambient of a unique experimental disposition that can only be described as "soft noise". The perfect accompaniment for any subliminal odyssey in its balance of harsh sound and lush textural delivery." The Second EP is called "Consciousness in Shifts of Decay," found here: http://www.intelligentmachinery.net/releases/shifts.php. It has been described as "A myriad of shifting layers of soft noise creating aural textures of a dark and mystic nature. The experimental duo of DANADAX deliver this discourse on decaying consciousness in a brief, but beautiful, collection of their own brand of dark ambient." Downloads are available as lo-fi MP3s, and hi-fi MP3 downloads are just 20 cents each. If you buy both EP's, you get a free EP from Likwid Twizter, a side project belonging to one of the members of DANADAX. All artwork for the EPs are available at the website, and they print in high resolution. DANADAX calls their music "soft noise" because they try to make noise and other strange sounds into atmospheres. It's best if you listen to it to get a better feeling for the term. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! --Boundary_(ID_fnqu1yBCFrsOWuUZx55J5g)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 20:04:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35009-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60613 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:04:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 60603 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:04:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:03:53 -0500 From: earphone <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] earphone music update To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello, we want to thank everyone who has submitted works for, earphone 01. we received so much good work that we will be releasing a series of compilations. this means that there will be, earphone 01, earphone 02, and, earphone 03, so far. a short list of artists that will be on, earphone 01 is: alexis perepelycia waldlust rarebit gintas k austistici a complete list will be available soon. cheers, m -- --> http://www.earphonemusic.com --> xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 09:29:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35007-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64787 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:29:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 64777 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:29:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:58 +0000 From: bobby whn <xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.207] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 09:28:58.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[12A36D40:01C5311D] hello, there's also an external max object by Yon Visell called _hmmm_ which uses a hidden markov model to generate patterns , and there's an article in Organised Sound Vol9 No_2 which fully explains its background and possible implementation. You can download the object from: http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~yon/soft.html i hope this is useful -bobby whelan >From: Georg Bosch <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound >Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:29:04 +0100 > >>I'm starting to develop a set of AI algorithms to assist in live >>performance, which will (roughly speaking) analyze control messages >>that I send and, after a certain point, be able to generate their >>own control messages based on the patterns I used. Eventually I'd >>like to design an algorithm to analyze a continuously changing >>audio texture on multiple levels and be able to reproduce similar, >>non-repeating textures. I've started by giving my PD patch some >>various recordings of birdsong (of the eastern Wood Thrush) for >>analysis, hoping to tune it to be able to generate its own >>non-repeating woodthrush-like song. > >Hi David, hi list, > >I'm not using PD myself, but i used Orm Finnendahls old 68k-only >Markov object (recently ported to PD) for a max patch controlling 2 >dot matrix printers. Not exactly microsound, but still pretty >noisy;) The markov object would parse an existing dialog on a letter >by letter (i.e. ascii-)level, 4th or 5th order IIRC, and generate >ever changing new text. I have no idea of the math going on inside >(I'm very grateful for those black boxes), but once I understood how >to work with it I found it relatively intuitive to use: you 'teach' >it with a stream of data, and then it outputs something similar, but >not quite the same and never repeating. Not sure if this counts as >AI though. I never really used it to produce sound, but feeding it >with note data / midi files gave some interesting auto-variation >melodies. > >>There was an interesting interview with Brian Eno back in the >>1980's (with The Wire mag, I believe) where he expressed a desire >>for a musical "black box" that could produce music in a given >>style, a Beethoven black box, a Beatles black box, an Eno black >>box... > >There's a markov object for pre-OSX Max by Nao Tokui that uses Bachs >"Jesu, Joy of Men's Desires" in the help file;) > >best, g. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. 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Fri Mar 25 18:58:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35008-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29019 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:58:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 29008 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:57:59 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:47:05 -0500 From: andre goncalves <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Upcoming NY event To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE693A39.B246%xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dMwtNx/8Xw6ADUHUUsOOxg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633133343733.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:Kp X-Powered-By: AuthSMTP - http://www.authsmtp.com - Authenticated SMTP Mail Relay X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dMwtNx/8Xw6ADUHUUsOOxg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, upcoming: - Sunday 27 - André Gonçalves Bolsa Ernesto de Sousa, a memorial fellowship named for the Portuguese Intermedia Artist, sponsored by the Luso-Americana Foundation and the Fundacao Calouste Gulbenkian. presents an intermedia performance: "Resonant Objects" aims at bringing together sound and space through a physical phenomenon, where sound is used as a medium to excite space to be heard, sound generating more sound through space; so the sound we hear is strictly related to the object's spatial characteristics, its shape, dimensions and material, but also its relationship with the site-specific architecture and again the spatial characteristics of the precise space that hosts all the objects. with special guest Kenneth Kirschner Experimental Intermedia 224 Center St. at Grand NY 21:00h $5 all the best Andre http://www.ctrl.tk --Boundary_(ID_dMwtNx/8Xw6ADUHUUsOOxg)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 03:28:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35006-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67535 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:28:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 67391 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:28:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:25:50 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [reminder] phoniq event - beta_lab - march 26th mtl To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx PHONIQ PRESENTS the second installment of BETA_LAB when: saturday march 26th 2005 where: cafe esperanza [in the back room] 5490 st-laurent, montreal, canada time: 9pm-2am how much: FREE BETA-LAB is a monthly night of electronic music collaberation and experimentation featuring phoniq resident artists: naw, cyan, scant intone, various, anton along side a variey of monthly guests. This month BETA-LAB will feature: aidan baker - live - [aidanbaker.org] - toronto des cailloux et du carbone - live - [natacha recodings] - montreal naw - live - [phoniq.net/noisefactoryrecords.com] - montreal djzeit - dj - [angle-rec.net] - montreal johnny ranger - vj - [mindroots.com] - montreal for more info visit: www.phoniq.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- PRESS RELEASE ABOUT BETA_LAB The PHONIQ collective brings you another twist on another year of electronic music showcases. This time around PHONIQ is happy to present BETA-LAB a monthly showcase of electronic music collaberation and experimentation. BETA-LAB will focus on teaming up resident PHONIQ artists with other members of the canadian electronic music community. BETA-LAB is a space for experimentation to try out new ideas, for artists to try out new ideas, projects, collaberations. a testing ground for laptop artists, hardware musicians, djs and video artists a like. every month a different project or projects will be presented. each of these events are designed to act as an exploration into the different intersections between technology and music/art making. BETA-LAB is not designed to feature one artist in particular but to act more as an equal testing ground for all, for both the performer and the audience member. the BETA-LAB series is about an ever changing creative process, each months event details will be announced at www.phoniq.net ABOUT PHONIQ: Phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic music by Canadians, with an emphasis on exposing talent that has not yet been exposed inside or outside of Canada. The concept for Phoniq has grown over the past year from the initial ideas of how to create a viable promotional vehicle for Canadian artists in electronic music into an active community mailing list, a net-label and resource tools. All of these aspects are in place in order to help the community to network and grow. In general, Phoniq has created a portal that should prove useful for anyone working in electronic music in Canada. THIS MONTHS ARTISTS: Aidan Baker (ARC, Nadja) TORONTO www.aidanbaker.org www.phoniq.net www.transientfrequency.com Aidan Baker is a musician & writer currently based in Toronto, Canada. He has released numerous cds on independent labels from around the world & is the author of 2 books of poetry, 2 poetry chapbooks, & has published poetry, fiction, & criticism in various international & scholarly journals. As a solo artist, Baker explores the deconstructive sonic possibilities of the electric guitar as a primary sound source, creating music that ranges from experimental/ambient to post-rock to contemporary classical. des Cailloux et du Carbone - (Natacha's Recordings) MONTREAL ingredients: marcello, laptop, household field recordings such as vibes and/or chopsticks, digital processing, errors, random sequences, may contain traces of house music. des cailloux et du carbone is marcello marandola; half of data-folk duo cian ethrie (lucky kitchen, natacha's recordings). also part of natacha's recording sound system and rivers and mountains. NAW - (Noise Factory Records, Phoniq) MONTREAL www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.phoniq.net montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clever-music, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. he has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada. to co-enside with his recent releases on these labels and plans to return to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. naw is currently preparing a new release for pertin_nce label (quebec city) due for release in early April 2005. DJZeit - (.Angle.Records) MONTREAL www.angle-rec.net One of the original founders of .Angle.Records in Montreal, With ..Angle.Records, Zeit's intent was and still is to promote artists and music from Montreal and Canada and beyond, not caring too much about prevailing trends, and with an affinity for obscure sounds, be they atmospheric or noisy, or in between. Evocative or challenging music made electronically or with any instrument actually. This gave an eclectic agenda so far. From technoid post industrial (Vromb from Montreal) to old-school weird analogue (Nos Royaumes from Montreal) to guitar-based drone bliss (Aidan Baker from Toronto) to glitchy and crushing dark-ambient (Monstrare and Wilt from the U.S.)^While the next release of .Angle.Rec. leans towards the more abrasive and harsh rhythmic side of things (Montreal^s emerging rhythmic noise artist LCEDP), DJZeit has a known (or not so known!) heavy fondness for, amongst others, immersive ambient, idm, and contemplative droney atmospheres ^with the occasional drift towards more experimental ventures. Well, this is exactly what he has in store for March 26th^ ^and those who, at some point, in 2002-2004, listened to DJZeit^s ^Dans L^Oeil De La Comete^ radio show on UQAM Web Radio and then on 102.3 Radio Centre-Ville, late at night, especially the last longer part, will be pleased! Johnny Ranger - (mindroots) MONTREAL www.mindroots.com The artistic projects of Johnny Ranger include VJING, Interdisciplinary Shows, Performances and Web art. He is the founder of Mindroots a sensuous poetic laboratory of non linear creation. He has been a regular at the SAT, he presented works at the Biennale d^art contemporain, the New Museum of Contemporary art in New York, EspaceTangente and at the Lachapelle theater amongs other. He is currently working on a new live performance of open ended audio-visual narratives entitled: The Dynamic Constellations which includes footages he has shot in Brazil, India, Indonesia and Canada. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 02:05:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35005-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37065 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:05:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 37011 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:05:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:08:21 +1100 From: ii <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [syd/aus gig] : ii tour april 1-2 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NGKKEi4yZi4gejee3aAbWQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NGKKEi4yZi4gejee3aAbWQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for those in sydney, australia... next weekend, ii (a melbourne instrumental duo) will be heading your way. traipsing between ambient electrics, tempered noise, icy plink-outs, and strummed bliss with guitars, drums, keys, and computer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- friday april 1 - 7:30pm - $6 - all ages yvonne ruve : 104a/342 elizabeth st, surry hills 'no puppets no dice'/'beofre' castings/ii split 7" pre-launch ii + castings + seaworthy thanks to castings + soundnosound _____________________________________________ saturday april 2 - $? - not sure what time, but you know.. bowlers club of nsw : 95 york st, sydney sbs whatever sessions 2 sydney cd launch sparrow hill + the emergency + ii + barrage + ill bravados thanks to feral media ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- more info: ii site : http://www.users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw/ii-files.html castings : http://www.geocities.com/castings_music seaworthy / steadycam : http://www.steadycamrecords.com.au/ soundnosound : http://members.optusnet.com.au/soundnosound/ feral media : http://www.feralmedia.com.au/ sbs whatever site : http://www.sbs.com.au/whatever sparrow hill : http;//www.sparrowhill.com/ barrage : http://www.barragemusic.com/ the emergency : http://www.the-emergency.net/ --Boundary_(ID_NGKKEi4yZi4gejee3aAbWQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 25 00:08:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35004-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5686 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:08:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 5674 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:08:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:08:36 -0800 (PST) From: zach layton <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] (ot) 3.30 Darmstadt "Classics of the Avant Garde" - w. Luke Dubois and Dafna Naftali To: nymax yahoogroup <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=yIFm6tgDcVRf9oLyfGytdZNBEBZb24a0BwMuz7Nhxgc//dSIes7hFURsl4DMUrPqr7/6xifz8LedL8QwgU/AMCLeAcgJwRS/MZ0PhxFQfPG27lp3BKZX/oSkQWH8qQBeF7V5FaEsaqwV+RQhUUHDE5q7LFhTgbjaxtiDqQFmhoE= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx March 30th at 10pm, Darmstadt "Classics of the Avant Garde" returns to Galapagos featuring a rare and fantastic collaboration between live laptop virtuosos Luke Dubois (http://music.columbia.edu/~luke/) and Dafna Naftali(http://dafna.info/). There is a rumor that they might build a max patch in real time from scratch. It will be an extremely exciting performance...max users and laptop afficionados should not miss it. And, providing prelude, interlude and postlude material for this performance, I will be joined on the turntables playing late romantic and 20th century avant-garde hits with Nick Hallett (plantains/maison du chic) and Brock Monroe (Mighty Robot AV Squad)... R. Luke DuBois is a composer, programmer, and video artist living in New York City. He holds a doctorate in music composition from Columbia University, and teaches interactive sound and video performance at Columbia's Computer Music Center, New York University, and the School of Visual Arts. He has done interactive programming and music production work for many artists, most recently Toni Dove, Chris Mann, Elliott Sharp, and Michael Gordon, and was a staff programming consultant for Engine27 for the 2003 season. He is a co-author of Jitter, a software suite developed by Cycling'74 for real-time manipulation of matrix data. His music with his band, the Freight Elevator Quartet, is available on Caipirinha/Sire and Cycling'74 music. A singer, sound artist/improviser and composer, coming from a genuinely eclectic background of music-making as singer/guitarist/electronic musician, Dafna Naphtali performs and composes using her own custom Max/MSP programs for sound processing of voice and other instruments. This she does in improvised projects and with the digital chamber punk ensemble, What is it Like to be a Bat?, that she co-leads with Kitty Brazelton (see www.whatbat.org link). She's received commissions and awards from NY Foundation for the Arts, NY State Council on the Arts, Meet the Composer, a commission from American Composers Forum (for pianist Kathleen Supové) and a residency at STEIM (Holland). And gives workshops/teaches at universities including New York University, where she earned degrees in voice and Music Technology (BM, MM), at Bard College and the School of Visual Arts. She also teaches, programs and consults about Max/MSP at Harvestworks since 1996, and was a programmer for two years for many artists and her own projects at Engine 27 (a multi-channel sound gallery). She has done sound design and/or programming work for the projects of Jin Hi Kim, Shelley Hirsch, Pamela Z, Fred Frith, Jim Staley, Henry Threadgill, Steve Coleman and Chico Freeman. Dafna can be heard with Mechanique(s) on a forthcoming release on In-situ ('05) and as featured vocalist on José Halac’s CD ‘Dance of 1000 Heads’ (Tellus), as well as on her acclaimed release with What is it Like to be a Bat? on Tzadik/Oracles. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 30, 10PM, FREE GALAPAGOS, 70 NORTH 6TH STREET, BETWEEN KENT AND WHYTHE www.zachlaytonindustries.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 22:49:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35003-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81566 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:49:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 81555 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:49:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:49:51 +0000 (GMT) From: michael fish <xxxxxxx_xxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --- Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > It's a little strange sometimes hearing location > recordings as if there is > nobody there. i find this statement a little strange in itself. is it not more like "as if _you_ were there"? if you see what i mean... michael_ffish . . . 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MY CAT IS AN ALIEN Track: Brilliance In The Outer Space Album: From The Earth To The Spheres Vol.1 Label: Opax Records / Very Friendly Dúo formado en Turín por Maurizio y Roberto Opalio, al norte de Italia. Desde 1997, los hermanos Opalio han venido desarrollando un proyecto al que llamaron My Cat Is An Alien, de cuya primera grabación enviaron copia a Sonic Youth a NYC y desde entonces se ha fraguado una amistad que ha llevado a los norteamericanos a invitar a MCIAA a tocar en repetidas ocasiones durante las giras europeas de Sonic Youth, mientras que Thurston Moore editaba a través de su sello Ecstatic Peace el debut internacional de los italianos, “Landscapes of an electric city/Hypnotic Spaces”. Este no era el primer trabajo de MCIAA, que han venido publicando desde su creación diferentes ediciones caseras de sus trabajos en formato cd-r a través de la plataforma Opax Records. Vamos a escuchar los 4 volúmenes de la serie "From The Earth To The Spheres", colección de vinilos de edición limitada que los italianos comparten con diversos artistas norteamericanos. Como no podía ser de otra manera, abre las series un vinilo compartido con una cara para Thurston Moore y la otra protagonizada por los sonidos nebulosos de los propios MCIAA Duet formed in Torino by Maurizio and Roberto Opalio, in Northern Italy. From 1997, the Opalio brothers have been developing a project called My Cat Is An Alien, whose first recording was sent to Sonic Youth in NYC forging a friendship that has made the Americans invite MCIAA to play in repeated occasions during Sonic Youth European tours, while Thurston Moore released through his own Ecstatic Peace label the international debut of the Italians, “Landscapes of an Electric City/Hypnotic Spaces”. This was not the first MCIAA work, since they have published different homemade editions of their works in cd-r format through their platform Opax Records. We will listen the 4 volumes of the series "From The Earth To The Spheres", a collection of limited edition vinyls that the Italians share with diverse North American artists. The series are open with a vinyl shared by Thurston Moore on one side and the hazy sounds of MCIAA themselves 02. THUJA Track: The Magma Is The Brother Of The Stone Album: From The Earth To The Spheres Vol.2 Label: Opax Records / Very Friendly El segundo volúmen de la serie "From The Earth To The Spheres" está protagonizado por los propios My Cat Is An Alien junto a Thuja, una de las formaciones en que toma forma uno de los colectivos musicales más activos de San Francisco, Jewelled Antler. Cerca de su línea habitual, Thuja utiliza texturas minimalistas para la composición de una obra hipnótica titulada "el magma es hermano de la piedra" The second volume of the "From The Earth To The Spheres" series is started by My Cat Is An Alien together with Thuja, one of the formations in which takes form one of San Francisco's more active musical communities, Jewelled Antler. In their habitual line, Thuja uses minimalist textures for the composition of a hypnotic work entitled "The Magma is the Brother of the Stone" 03. JACKIE O'MOTHERFUCKER Track: Breaking Album: From The Earth To The Spheres Vol.3 Label: Opax Records / Very Friendly Tercer volúmen de la serie "From The Earth To The Spheres", editado por el sello de los italianos My Cat Is An Alien Opax Records, y distribuido para todo el mundo por Very Friendly desde el Reino Unido. Los protagonistas de este tercer vinilo compartido son los propios MCIAA, los artistas audiovisuales Maurizio y Roberto Opalio, con otra exploración improvisada e instantánea de sonidos minimales y drones. En esta ocasión, junto a Jackie-O Motherfucker, una banda formada en Portland, Oregon, hace alrededor de una década, que basa su música en las raíces más primitivas del blues americano, el free jazz improvisado e importantes dosis de folk-rock psicodélico Third volume of the "From The Earth To The Spheres" series, released by the Italians My Cat Is An Alien on their Opax Records label, and distributed for the whole world by Very Friendly from the United Kingdom. The protagonists of this third shared vinyl are MCIAA (audiovisual artists Maurizio and Roberto Opalio), with another improvised and instantaneous exploration of minimal sounds and drones. In this occasion, together with Jackie-or Motherfucker, a band formed in Portland, Oregon, almost one decade ago, that base their music in the most primitive roots of the American blues, free improvised jazz and important doses of psychedelic folk-rock 04. MY CAT IS AN ALIEN Track: Winter Will Burn Out Yr Wings Album: From The Earth To The Spheres Vol.4 Label: Opax Records / Very Friendly Cuarto volúmen de la serie "From The Earth To The Spheres", protagonizado por MCIAA, con un corte místico y desolado, “Winter will burn out yr wings”, que en esta ocasión comparte soporte con una pieza inédita a cargo de Jim O'Rourke. Llegados a este punto nos despedimos, aunque la serie "From The Earth To The Spheres" continuará en los próximos meses con la publicación de más vinilos compartidos por My Cat Is An Alien, junto a artistas de la talla de Christina Carter, Double Leopards, Glands of External Secretion o Christian Marclay Fourth volume in the series "From The Earth To The Spheres" by MCIAA, with a mystic and desolated track, “Winter will burn out yr wings”, that in this occasion shared with an unreleased piece of Jim O'Rourke. "From The Earth To The Spheres" series will continue in next months with the release of more split vinyls by My Cat Is An Alien, together with artists such as Christina Carter, Double Leopards, Glands of External Secretion or Christian Marclay ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado “borrame” y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. 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Thu Mar 24 18:37:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-35000-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73677 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 73667 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:37:04 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] EU this spring To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx due to a scheduling snafu I now have some time now open between [April 28 --> May 8] while I am in Europe...so I am looking for workshop/lecture/performance opportunities for that period...if you know of anything in the EU please contact me off list and I will send you more information... thanks in advance! 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Thu Mar 24 16:26:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34999-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92159 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:26:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 92146 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:26:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:29:04 +0100 From: Georg Bosch <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:17fe7890f5b888605c20dd92a26ba15c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I'm starting to develop a set of AI algorithms to assist in live > performance, which will (roughly speaking) analyze control messages > that I send and, after a certain point, be able to generate their own > control messages based on the patterns I used. Eventually I'd like to > design an algorithm to analyze a continuously changing audio texture > on multiple levels and be able to reproduce similar, non-repeating > textures. I've started by giving my PD patch some various recordings > of birdsong (of the eastern Wood Thrush) for analysis, hoping to tune > it to be able to generate its own non-repeating woodthrush-like song. Hi David, hi list, I'm not using PD myself, but i used Orm Finnendahls old 68k-only Markov object (recently ported to PD) for a max patch controlling 2 dot matrix printers. Not exactly microsound, but still pretty noisy;) The markov object would parse an existing dialog on a letter by letter (i.e. ascii-)level, 4th or 5th order IIRC, and generate ever changing new text. I have no idea of the math going on inside (I'm very grateful for those black boxes), but once I understood how to work with it I found it relatively intuitive to use: you 'teach' it with a stream of data, and then it outputs something similar, but not quite the same and never repeating. Not sure if this counts as AI though. I never really used it to produce sound, but feeding it with note data / midi files gave some interesting auto-variation melodies. > There was an interesting interview with Brian Eno back in the 1980's > (with The Wire mag, I believe) where he expressed a desire for a > musical "black box" that could produce music in a given style, a > Beethoven black box, a Beatles black box, an Eno black box... There's a markov object for pre-OSX Max by Nao Tokui that uses Bachs "Jesu, Joy of Men's Desires" in the help file;) best, g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 11:25:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34998-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23792 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:25:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 23752 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:25:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:24:52 +0000 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptron In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 11:25:30.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FE29B10:01C53064] I quite like Boom Bip, and I enjoyed reading the interview with him on The Milk Factory: http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/interviews/boombipiw.htm I find it interesting that he says "... the album is 98% live instruments", and Village Voice seems to think he's sitting in his bedroom with a computer. Perhaps his bedroom is a studio full of musicians, in which case it must get very hot in the summer ;) On 22 Mar 2005, at 19:59, Kim Cascone wrote: > the birth of yet another non-genre: > http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,tzou,62094,22.html -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org/ music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 11:08:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34997-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13755 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:08:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 13740 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:08:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:07:51 +0100 From: herv=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= boghossian <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Plateformes : Boghossian/rives/saladin @ Les Voutes, Paris (fr)... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE685E16.94E1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, if you're in paris this week-end ! 26.03.05 Les Voutes > Paris (fr) :: live : Plateformes : Herve Boghossian/Stephane Rives/Matthieu Saladin http://www.lesvoutes.org Plateformes : Herve Boghossian : guitare -electric- (List, Raster-Noton) Stephane Rives : saxophone soprano -acoustic- (Potlatch) Matthieu Saladin : clarinette basse -amplified- (List) http://www.list-en.com http://www.raster-noton.de http://www.potlatch.fr http://www.stephanerives.net Les Voutes 19 rue des Frigos 75013 Paris (ex: 91 Quai Panhard & Levassor, ex : 91 Quai de la gare) Lignes Metro : 14 Meteor - 6 Quai de la Gare Lignes Bus : 89 - 62 and still : 18.03.05 / 03.04.05 Glassbox* , Paris (fr) :: exhibition : Steinbruchel "Opaque" - 2003 (+ exhibition of Dominique Blais "Deaf Room"- 2005) http://www.glassbox.be * ligne 3 m° Parmentier (rue oberkampf next to the "Nouveau Casino" venue) . all the best rv --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 10:02:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34996-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95099 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:02:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 95089 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:02:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:02:18 +0100 From: pachinkostudio <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [/end] - release promo To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006201c53058$912a7020$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [/END] [/ini] [/dex] [/oto] [/nil] [/ddd] [/rem] [/ins] [/dub] [/umi] [/esp] [/end] 99.9% sinewaves and white noise >> reviews Mugen is a project by Alessandro Canova, who also runs his own Pachinkostudio label. To date he has six releases on offer, of which '[/end]' is the latest. He works with a limited set of soundsources: sine waves and white noise. That may sound a bit too much like Ryoji Ikeda, and yes, Mugen seems especially inspired by the 'Matrix' release of Ikeda but luckily he finds enough ways of his own to create something that may indeed not be top-new and innovative, nevertheless he has a couple of interesting pieces to offer. Maybe eleven is a bit too much, even when the tracks are rather concise, but sometimes the pieces are a bit ambient, hoovering in various frequencies available in his sine-waves, moreover there are also pieces of rhythm, and here Mugen seems to expand his ears to the world of minimal techno, such as in '[/dub]', which seems to be a pastiche of Pan Sonic rhythms and Ikeda's sine waves. Mugen's sound might be a bit too late, but a couple of years ago it would have fitted nicely along the microwave tag, which nobody uses anymore, so that might be a bit of a dead-end. However, he presents enough variation in his pieces to make '[/end]' a very nice CDR indeed. Frans de Waard on Vital Weekly Se l'estetica della confezione può essere indicativa di affinità elettive, e credo lo sia, allora di fronte a questo CD non è dato pensare che alla Raster Noton, e a quel mondo di microsuoni, onde sinusoidali e minimal techno che ha fatto la fortuna dell'etichetta tedesca. L'ascolto, e le vicende passate di Alessandro Canova (in arte Mugen), confermano questo dato di fatto. "[/end]" giunge dopo un periodo di intensa attività, e ricco di soddisfazioni, con le esibizioni a Londra per "The New Italian Futurists" e a Parigi per "Batofar cherche l'Italie", entrambe nel 2002, e dopo la lunga permanenza in Giappone dell'anno seguente. L'esperienza giapponese dev'essere stata quanto mai stimolante, vista l'importanza che l'arcipelago del `sol levante' riveste per l'artista - importanza individuabile in ogni sua espressione: nel nome che si è imposto come in quello scelto per designare il suo sito web. Caratterizzato da titoli a volte intelligibili e altre ben chiari, il CD rappresenta un viaggio volto a riproporre il mood minimale del musicista, fatto di sibili, ronzii e sottili tessiture ritmiche, garantito in una sua purezza quasi priva di scorie (99,9% sinewaves + white noise). Le undici tracce del CD - o installazioni audio/sonorizzazioni, secondo la definizione dello stesso Canova - rappresentano altrettante variazioni sul medesimo tema, a dimostrazione di come le permutazioni, pur all'interno di un approccio estremamente minimale, possano essere infinite. Va anche notato l'emergere di un certo savoir-faire, certamente estraneo alle precedenti produzioni, che denota un ulteriore passo avanti verso la maturità definitiva (al lettore dare al termine la valenza che preferisce: positiva o negativa). Direi che il Mugen tornato dal `pellegrinaggio' in Oriente è più determinato e più rifinito, in definitiva più attento sia ai particolari sia al risultato complessivo, e vedo "[/end]" come un traguardo importante, lo stesso Canova ne parla come della `fine di un periodo', ma anche come un inizio volto al raggiungimento di nuovi obiettivi. D'altronde basta invertire la programmazione dei brani e il gioco è fatto. Etero Genio on Sands Zine More infos: http://www.pachinkostudio.com/ Orders: http://www.microsuoni.com/labels/pachinkostudio.html Booking and contacts: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx (please put Mugen in the subject line) Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 04:32:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34995-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17387 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:32:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 17376 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:32:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NAW AND FRIENDS LIVE APRIL 1ST 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx PRESS RELEASE: APRIL 1st 2005 Noise Factory Records will be holding another one of its artist showcase series at the Casa Del Popolo. This time around Noise Factory presents label artist NAW performing live along side 2 of his favorite local Montreal electronic music making collectives; Le-son666's very own INTERCOM and Panospria's ARGON FLOOZY. The night will be a FREE no frills but all thrills type of evening and promisses to feature all new material by these 3 local montreal electronic music talents. so make sure to come out and get your chin scratching, head bobbing, body moving, feet shuffeling thing on FRIDAY APRIL 1 2005 at the Casa Del Popolo 4873 St-Laurent, show time is 9pm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FRIDAY APRIL 1st 2005 Noise Factory Records brings you another night of free live music featuring live performances by: NAW - gearing up for yet another new release this time on the newly founded quebec city label pertin_nce, as well as an up comming appearence at this years SONAR festival in barcelona spain, NAW will once again showcase his own personal take on post electronic dance music featureing all new never heard befor material, so get ready to have your dancing feet on and your head ready for some bobbing as you never really know what to expect from a live set by this artist. also appearing on this special night will be 2 of naws personal favorite local artists: INTERCOM - le-son666's very onw electronic trio will showcase new digital beats and crunchy noises, dancing or trying-to-dance is recommended. ARGON FLOOZY - panospria's newset sextet project will construct and manipulate a sonic whirlpool of moody music and dense soundscapes with their unusual instruments and strange techniques. and rounding out the nigths entertainment will be last minute special guest mp3 dj selector DJ NAWPOD NAWPOD will be helping to keep the party going before, after and in between the live musical acts for the evening with various selections from canadian indie mp3 netlabels. when: FRIDAY APRIL 1 2005 where: CASA DEL POPOLO, 4873 St-Laurent time: 9pm how much: FREE for more info visit: http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com contact xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx or xxx@xxxxxx.xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BIOS/INFO NOISE FACTORY RECORDS http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com Taken from various interviews with Joe English, Noise Factory Records the man behind the label: "All roads lead back to Joy Division. They were the most influential band during my teen years. From that point, everything else fell into place. At one point I was so into electronic industrial music that I began adopting the anti-guitar philosophy of Test Department. That didnt last long. The next major influence came with David Sylvians Secrets of the Beehive. I suppose these two musical styles represent the scope of what would become Noise Factory Records. As for the Noise Factory, it began as a college radio show on CHRY during the early 90s. The show played mainly industrial, electronic and ambient music. We had a couple of parties under the Noise Factory moniker, but once we graduated university it all kind of ended. Life began to play its cruel little game. I got a job at IBM and hated every day. So I started the label in 1996. I knew nothing about running a label, and I had no contacts but I had a good friend that was in a band, and wanted to put out an album. It made sense at the time and it still makes sense." "The Noise Factory is not made up of musicians or former record executives. The Noise Factory came into existence out of a need and desire for something new. We truly believe the music we represent is some of the most wonderful and beautiful music currently being made. Unlike many indie labels we offer a different viewpoint, one of the music lover and consumer." NAW www.noisefactoryrecords.com montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clevermusic, pertin_nce, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. naw has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada. to co-enside with his recent releases on noise factory and clevermusic and plans to return to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. naw is currently preparing a new release titled terrain vague for the pertin_nce label out of quebec city due for release in early April 2005. INTERCOM http://www.le-son666.com/intercom The electronic trio intercom will showcase new digital beats and crunchy noises (some of it could appear on their upcoming full-lenght) along with radical reworkings of their first self-titled cd. Dancing/trying-to-dance is recommended. And be warned: any boring chin-strokers will be shot on sight. Okay? Argon Floozy http://www.panospria.com/ A local sextet mostly comprised of members from the Panospria collective, Argon Floozy is their latest group project since Kokoro No Jojishi in 2003. On this evening they will construct and manipulate a sonic whirlpool of moody music and dense soundscapes with their unusual instruments and strange techniques. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 24 00:56:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34994-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45040 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:56:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 45026 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:56:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:56:46 +0100 From: pachinkostudio <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Usb-midi controller info To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <018e01c5300c$5b9a3220$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE6748CE.82CD%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ciao Marco, if you are on a budget check out the Behringer BCF2000 http://www.behringer.com/BCF2000/index.cfm?lang=ENG ale*** --- http://www.pachinkostudio.com/ http://www.12k.com/term/term10.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Messina" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: [microsound] Usb-midi controller info Hello all, I¹ m looking for a usb-midi controller with motorized fader and knobs, have you got any suggestion? Thanks in advance marco messina --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 22:31:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34993-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90181 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:31:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 90171 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:31:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:31:46 +0100 From: punck <xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ctrlaltcanc records new mp3 release To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003701c52ff8$19307c50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <0ef101c52e74$e5399f50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all a new mp3 release from : CtrlAltCanc Records http://www.ctrlaltcanc.tk ctrl21: Andrea Marutti: Seven to Go For Your Ears Only #1 // Hai Paura? // Wall of Sound // For Your Ears Only #2 // My Froggy Friend // Am I a Field Recordist? // Calling for Help All music performed and recorded by Andrea Marutti in March 2005 at Lips Vago Digital Studio and at Pergola Mindcafe, Milan, Italy. Voice on Hai Paura? courtesy of Patrizia Oliva. Free to download here: http://www.ctrlaltcanc.tk Thanx a lot for your time Have a nice day Ctrl+Alt+Ciao Adriano feedback necessary --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 19:02:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34992-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92491 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:02:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 92479 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:02:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:12:01 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] disco mourn? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_l8+xUm0N8pvosrrXkq4HFg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_l8+xUm0N8pvosrrXkq4HFg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.nypl.org/press/disco.cfm On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > microsound anagram: disco mourn > wow...now there's a fnord subliminal! ;) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --Boundary_(ID_l8+xUm0N8pvosrrXkq4HFg)-- From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 19:01:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34991-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90770 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:01:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 90760 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:01:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:00:58 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] disco mourn? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i can relate to "indoor scum" b On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > microsound anagram: disco mourn > wow...now there's a fnord subliminal! ;) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsound anagram: disco mourn wow...now there's a fnord subliminal! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 18:05:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34988-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57683 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 57673 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:04:45 -0500 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <p06200703be6742ca66a1@[192.168.0.2]> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcUvxgCZ29RLtOo+REaSD3BuKAzXrwADCCMg Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elise.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > From: Richard Zvonar > Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. > > After a little informal investigation it appears that > Fibonacci converges a little more quickly than other series, > but by the 10th term or so they're all pretty close. > > Do you have any pertinent references? Not really. I got that from experimenting with Mathematica. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 17:52:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34987-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50522 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 50505 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:52:30 -0800 From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE66ECDE.6757%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Probably not - although, depending on the kind of field being recorded, there could be a kind of 'simstim' being in someone else's shoes aspect to it... It's a little strange sometimes hearing location recordings as if there is nobody there. Though perhaps no stranger than seeing documentary footage without thinking about the fact that there is a cameraman there, you can imagine that the potential sense of unease is highly context dependent. It strikes me that there is a great potential for creative exploration around this issue, and related issues of surveillance, narrative & documentary / fiction... And of course, there are many ways to listen. On 23/3/05 7:24 am, "{ brad brace }" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > interesting thread... while the field-recording listeners > may wish to temporarily/partially locate themselves in the > recording/place/time/duration, it's unlikely that they > simultaneously also imagine/wish themselves making the > recording (or frequently acknowledging the audio > machinations)... isn't it? > > > http://63.170.215.11:8000 > http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/undisclosed.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 16:33:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34986-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17578 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 17566 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:25:24 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200703be6742ca66a1@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 10:41 PM -0500 3/22/05, Paulo Mouat wrote: >The division of two consecutive terms of a sequence with any two natural >numbers as starting points and where terms are determined through addition >of the two previous terms will eventually tend to the golden section. This >is not intrinsic to the Fibonacci series and is probably the reason why the >golden section is widely found in nature. Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. After a little informal investigation it appears that Fibonacci converges a little more quickly than other series, but by the 10th term or so they're all pretty close. Do you have any pertinent references? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 18:07:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34989-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59356 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:07:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 59346 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:07:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:08:48 -0500 (EST) From: frederic yarm <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> > > Fair enough! Perhaps I read the opening statement 'Somewhere in the > spectrum between Musique Concrete and Phonography' as 'Somewhere in the > field beyond Musique Concrete and Phonography'. I fully understand the > logic of the passive location recording in phonography, and the benefit > of avoiding preconceived ideas of music. But I think it may be worth > unfolding my comment a little. This conversation ended up drifting onto the phonography yahoogroups list and I posted my response there. It all boiled down to semantics of what is active and what is passive as well as what is non-interfering, etc. My explanation was that the call for submissions was being sent out to a variety of music boards where some people might not understand what phonography or a field recording is and it was a general guidance for the naive. Phonography artists take great time and thought energy to the process such as microphone placement, movement of the microphone(s), etc. but I was trying to differentiate this from someone making interesting sounds for the purpose of the recording or adding composed music to the recordings. Thank you for the commentary and critique of my wording. And sorry to have misinterpretted your brief post before. Cheers, Frederic --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 15:50:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34985-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90781 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:50:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 90771 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:50:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:49:47 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] MILLE PLATEAUX - FORCE INC - RITORNELL In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE66FA4B.4DEF%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 3/23/05 8:08 AM, swen emmerling at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > those labels seem to be gone foreever. they are selling all the remainig > CDs at ebay.de . 50000 CDs for 50000 EUR > > get them here: > http://tinyurl.com/58s3r > > Swen actually not, the labels are under new management from what i hear and organizing to release new material.. just curious if the artists are to receive anything from this auction ? sad if not. good deal for the buyer however. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 15:25:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34984-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79755 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:24:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 79744 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:24:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:24:46 +0100 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Usb-midi controller info To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE6748CE.82CD%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mzkL53hA+HE49SEeXnZ/VA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_mzkL53hA+HE49SEeXnZ/VA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, I¹ m looking for a usb-midi controller with motorized fader and knobs, have you got any suggestion? 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Wed Mar 23 15:24:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34983-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78761 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:24:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 78751 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:24:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: { brad brace } <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions In-reply-to: <BE65B566.66A6%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE65B566.66A6%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx interesting thread... while the field-recording listeners may wish to temporarily/partially locate themselves in the recording/place/time/duration, it's unlikely that they simultaneously also imagine/wish themselves making the recording (or frequently acknowledging the audio machinations)... isn't it? http://63.170.215.11:8000 http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/undisclosed.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 13:07:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34982-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30724 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 30713 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:07:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:08:28 +0100 From: swen emmerling <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] MILLE PLATEAUX - FORCE INC - RITORNELL To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:cb9fa313eda13666c16338d3b31f7547 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx those labels seem to be gone foreever. they are selling all the remainig CDs at ebay.de . 50000 CDs for 50000 EUR get them here: http://tinyurl.com/58s3r Swen -- http://swen.antville.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 12:40:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34981-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19981 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:40:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 19971 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:40:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:38:56 +0100 From: Tobias Schmitt <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] the curmbox will open its doors shortly. To: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx_xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, Ambientxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx_xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx-xx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx curmbox - a venue dedicated to electronic, experimental, improvised music and noise will open its doors shortly in frankfurt (germany): http://curmbox.de -> artists interested in performing can get in touch - please reply to the sender, not the list. thank you for your attention ts .....: suspicion breeds confidence - acrylnimbus .....: http://acrylnimbus.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Mar 23 03:41:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34980-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92443 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:41:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 92431 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:40:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:41:03 -0500 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <p06200718be64b25c0057@[192.168.0.2]> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcUuPRf4iVCdukl6RNqkA/IEerzHZQANuF+g Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elise.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > From: Richard Zvonar > P.S. The Fibonacci series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21...) is > formed by adding two consecutive terms to derive the next > term in the series (therefore 13 + 21 gives the next term > 34). The Golden Mean (or Golden Proportion or Ratio) may be > approximated by dividing consecutive Fibonacci numbers (13/21 > = 0.61905..., 21/13 = 1.61538...). The division of two consecutive terms of a sequence with any two natural numbers as starting points and where terms are determined through addition of the two previous terms will eventually tend to the golden section. This is not intrinsic to the Fibonacci series and is probably the reason why the golden section is widely found in nature. > The higher up the series the closer the approximation to the > proportion, which is commonly represented as "phi" and equals > 1.6180339887499... or -0.61803398874989... For more details > and an explanation of why phi has two values, see: > > http://www.vashti.net/mceinc/golden.htm A more complete description may be found at http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoldenRatio.html //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 23:41:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34979-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 144 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:41:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 132 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:41:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:41:55 -0600 From: grain of sound <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] draftank | my fun_Out now on Ristretto To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v8.05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here´s the latest from the Grain of Sound´s sister-label: Ristretto is happy to announce 2 brand new releases. draftank - "orange book" rist02/ 2005 5" cdr > "Orange Book" is the first full-lenght from Draftank. Following two tracks on compilation releases by french label Effervescence and on our portuguese sister-label Grain of Sound, Draftank goes for the long-playing. Using one digital turntable and one minidisc this is Nuno Moita´s solo effort on experimental electronica. A cdr release with enhanced content so you will also find one video in the quicktime format: 8 minutes of super8 found-footage digitally transfered to black & white and edited by Nuno Moita. Check all the info about Draftank and hear one complete track taken from "Orange Book" at: http://www.grainofsound.com/ristretto http://www.grainofsound.com/nunomoita my fun - "sunday best" rist03/ 2005 3" cdr > My Fun (aka Justin Hardison) in his own words: "I'm a sound artist/musician currently living with my lovely wife in London (the cat's on the way!). I've released work for a number of years under different names except Justin Hardison and more recently I've been exploring the use of field recordings and electronic processing of more acoustic sounds in my work. With the aid of a couple of small microphones, sampling, and assorted software sound generation, My Fun aims to create narrative work without being dependent on a particular musical genre determining the sound of the final output. In addition, I was the electronic music editor of 'levelheadedmusic.com' and 'thelandof' internet zine before making the decision to focus on my own work. 'Sunday Best', which will most likely be my last beat structured material for a long while, features tracks constructed of field recordings, electronics, samples and a few beats and hints at the direction that i'm headed for new material". A complete mp3 track taken from "Sunday Best" is ready for free download at the Ristretto website. >>> + info: http://www.thelandof.org http://www.grainofsound.com/ristretto enjoy. thank you for reading. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 22:54:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34978-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76991 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:54:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 76965 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:54:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:56:25 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptron To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, but it missed the best one of all - McSound (tm)! ;) ~David David Powers Secretary DePaul University, School of Education Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services 773-325-4806 >>> xxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx 03/22/05 04:38PM >>> According to the results from the Andy's anagram solver there could be many new genres... Daniel Dugas http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html Anagram Solution Your query was microsound, with a word limit of 2, a and I included. Here are some phrases that can be made from that query: cion dorsum coin dorsum coir mounds coir osmund coirs mound comous rind coni dorsum conium dors conium rods conium sord coniums dor coniums rod conoid rums conoids rum coon murids coons murid cor dominus cords onium corium dons corium nods cormoid nus cormoid sun cormoid uns cormous din corn odiums corn sodium corns duomi corns odium cornu misdo cornus modi cousin dorm crimson duo crimson oud crimson udo crud simoon cruds nomoi crus domino crus monoid cud morions cuds morion cum indoors cum sordino cumin doors cumin odors cumin ordos cumin roods cumins door cumins odor cumins ordo cumins rood cur dominos curd simoon curds nomoi curs domino curs monoid din cormous disc unmoor disco mourn domino crus domino curs dominos cur dominus cor dominus orc dominus roc donor music dons corium doom incurs dooms incur dooms runic door cumins door mucins doors cumin doors mucin dor coniums dorm cousin dors conium dors muonic dorsum cion dorsum coin dorsum coni dorsum icon doum orcins doums orcin duci morons duo crimson duo microns duomi corns duomi scorn duos micron duros monic icon dorsum incur dooms incur moods incur sodom incurs doom incurs modo incurs mood indoor scum indoors cum micro nodus micro sound micron duos micron ouds micron udos microns duo microns oud microns udo micros undo minor scudo misdo cornu modi cornus modo incurs modus orcin mondos uric monic duros monic sudor monoid crus monoid curs mood incurs moods incur moods runic morion cuds morion scud morions cud moron scudi morons duci mound coirs mounds coir mourn disco mourn sodic mourns odic mucin doors mucin odors mucin ordos mucin roods mucins door mucins odor mucins ordo mucins rood mucoid sorn mucoids nor mucors nodi muonic dors muonic rods muonic sord murid coons murids coon music donor music rondo nodi mucors nods corium nodus micro nomoi cruds nomoi curds nor mucoids nordic sumo nus cormoid odic mourns odium corns odium scorn odiums corn odor cumins odor mucins odors cumin odors mucin onium cords onium scrod orc dominus orcin doums orcin modus orcins doum ordo cumins ordo mucins ordos cumin ordos mucin osmic round osmund coir oud crimson oud microns ouds micron rind comous roc dominus rod coniums rods conium rods muonic rondo music rood cumins rood mucins roods cumin roods mucin round osmic rum conoids rums conoid runic dooms runic moods runic sodom scorn duomi scorn odium scrod onium scud morion scudi moron scudo minor scum indoor simoon crud simoon curd sodic mourn sodium corn sodom incur sodom runic sord conium sord muonic sordino cum sorn mucoid sound micro sudor monic sumo nordic sun cormoid udo crimson udo microns udos micron undo micros unmoor disc uns cormoid uric mondos> On Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > maybe if people added or subtracted syllables from the > word microsound, that could be another genre, too. > > > --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > the birth of yet another non-genre: > > > http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,tzou,62094,22.html > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Tue Mar 22 22:39:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34977-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68824 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:39:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 68814 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:39:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:38:57 -0800 From: xxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] laptron In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx-xxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx According to the results from the Andy's anagram solver there could be many new genres... Daniel Dugas http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html Anagram Solution Your query was microsound, with a word limit of 2, a and I included. Here are some phrases that can be made from that query: cion dorsum coin dorsum coir mounds coir osmund coirs mound comous rind coni dorsum conium dors conium rods conium sord coniums dor coniums rod conoid rums conoids rum coon murids coons murid cor dominus cords onium corium dons corium nods cormoid nus cormoid sun cormoid uns cormous din corn odiums corn sodium corns duomi corns odium cornu misdo cornus modi cousin dorm crimson duo crimson oud crimson udo crud simoon cruds nomoi crus domino crus monoid cud morions cuds morion cum indoors cum sordino cumin doors cumin odors cumin ordos cumin roods cumins door cumins odor cumins ordo cumins rood cur dominos curd simoon curds nomoi curs domino curs monoid din cormous disc unmoor disco mourn domino crus domino curs dominos cur dominus cor dominus orc dominus roc donor music dons corium doom incurs dooms incur dooms runic door cumins door mucins doors cumin doors mucin dor coniums dorm cousin dors conium dors muonic dorsum cion dorsum coin dorsum coni dorsum icon doum orcins doums orcin duci morons duo crimson duo microns duomi corns duomi scorn duos micron duros monic icon dorsum incur dooms incur moods incur sodom incurs doom incurs modo incurs mood indoor scum indoors cum micro nodus micro sound micron duos micron ouds micron udos microns duo microns oud microns udo micros undo minor scudo misdo cornu modi cornus modo incurs modus orcin mondos uric monic duros monic sudor monoid crus monoid curs mood incurs moods incur moods runic morion cuds morion scud morions cud moron scudi morons duci mound coirs mounds coir mourn disco mourn sodic mourns odic mucin doors mucin odors mucin ordos mucin roods mucins door mucins odor mucins ordo mucins rood mucoid sorn mucoids nor mucors nodi muonic dors muonic rods muonic sord murid coons murids coon music donor music rondo nodi mucors nods corium nodus micro nomoi cruds nomoi curds nor mucoids nordic sumo nus cormoid odic mourns odium corns odium scorn odiums corn odor cumins odor mucins odors cumin odors mucin onium cords onium scrod orc dominus orcin doums orcin modus orcins doum ordo cumins ordo mucins ordos cumin ordos mucin osmic round osmund coir oud crimson oud microns ouds micron rind comous roc dominus rod coniums rods conium rods muonic rondo music rood cumins rood mucins roods cumin roods mucin round osmic rum conoids rums conoid runic dooms runic moods runic sodom scorn duomi scorn odium scrod onium scud morion scudi moron scudo minor scum indoor simoon crud simoon curd sodic mourn sodium corn sodom incur sodom runic sord conium sord muonic sordino cum sorn mucoid sound micro sudor monic sumo nordic sun cormoid udo crimson udo microns udos micron undo micros unmoor disc uns cormoid uric mondos> On Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > maybe if people added or subtracted syllables from the > word microsound, that could be another genre, too. > > > --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > the birth of yet another non-genre: > > > http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,tzou,62094,22.html > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Tue Mar 22 22:19:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34976-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58945 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 58934 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:19:18 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptron In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=07TMZNjYRHh0exbdgD3XRsL5rO+Jh6jOmpeFPasUReg+m5owoG2DeTp3AiplmBX+0mfWLBS6h2hVBCIyiyqXX5y3KVXE2Iu9vIGdlIJnnRHXESYcANRXTg96xtb8GaHWYhctNd6WUmplEGxVIWcjtk7/MFD+6JCIG+7XRGIn+wU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe if people added or subtracted syllables from the word microsound, that could be another genre, too. --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > the birth of yet another non-genre: > http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,tzou,62094,22.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 19:59:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34975-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90656 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:59:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 90646 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:59:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:59:20 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] laptron To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the birth of yet another non-genre: http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,tzou,62094,22.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 19:43:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34974-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81923 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:43:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 81907 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:43:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:43:34 -0800 From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE65B566.66A6%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, Fair enough! Perhaps I read the opening statement 'Somewhere in the spectrum between Musique Concrete and Phonography' as 'Somewhere in the field beyond Musique Concrete and Phonography'. I fully understand the logic of the passive location recording in phonography, and the benefit of avoiding preconceived ideas of music. But I think it may be worth unfolding my comment a little. I also understand that the field recordist has an activity in location choice, capture time choice, microphone choice (including peripherals), microphone placement, and in some cases microphone movement and in-the-field editing. While this is already more than just passive, I wondered how interesting it might be to increase this activity somewhat, whether through extended physical movement, though interaction with the environment etc, and these need not be necessarily orchestrated. There can be a sense of something being missing in many passive field recordings, particularly in small group social environments; whilst on the other hand I have heard several field recordings in which the recordists were sonically present that had a powerful and intriguing impact. An example off the top of my head is Katharine Norman's conversation with Hildegard Westerkamp whilst trampling through woods near to Vancouver, on the CD accompanying Norman's Sounding Art. I don't believe this kind of work really fits into what people understand by Phonography/Soundscape/Acoustic Ecology etc nor Musique Concrete. Best of luck for your compilation, Graham On 21/3/05 3:50 pm, "frederic yarm" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> >> I don't understand the necessary logic of point 3. My preference would >> be to explore the medium exactly in that area. >> >>> #3 One point about the field recording aspect of it is stressing that >>> the person recording is not part of the recording in orchestrating or >>> making the sounds, only a passive observer and documenter (obviously, >>> just being there has an effect albeit hopefully minor). > > The point as written follows the traditional phonography definition of > what a field recording is. > > The logic behind stipulating this is to avoid the composer's preconceived > ideas of music if there is someone orchestrating or making the noises > intentionally for the recording. The composer's job is to record the > sounds (passive) and then transform them into his or her own work > (active). This process sets it apart from other types of sound art. > > The initial concept of this compilation stemmed from a conversation > between the label owner and myself in regards to a compilation I had just > participated in and felt was a good academic learning experience since it > was rather removed from what I had ever done whereas for others, it was > commonplace. > > Feel free to accept the challenge as the rules of the compilation describe > it and participate. Otherwise, there are plenty of good compilations out > there with calls for submissions that fall out of this category and these > rules. > > Cheers, > Frederic > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 11:12:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34973-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84911 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:11:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 84890 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:11:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:11:49 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Intricate Maximals Reviews To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003a01c52ecf$f2bae610$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Intricate Maximals :: label compilation :: www.audiobulb.com THE MILK FACTORY (UK): ".... it is this very vision that shapes this collection, crafting every particular angle of each track. Intricate Maximals is no short of impressive and continues to show Audiobulb as an imprint to rely on. 4.5 / 5" BOOMKAT (UK): "Featuring something to please all electronic cognoscente's palates, 'Intricate Maximals' showcases minimal style clicks and fizz with Autistici's 'Nurture Nature', chopped vocals and drifting digital proclivity on Diagram of Suburban Chaos' 'So Gone (Ventramix)' and the lint-like, half captured crackle of Jan Jelinek through Robin Judge's 'Fall'. Elsewhere Taavi Tulev comes across like a less breaks obsessed Keith Tenniswood with the penetrating beats and giddy percussion of 'Tuhikli'. Check. " IGLOO MAGAZINE (USA): "Containing eighteen tracks in all, Intricate Maximals compresses several dozen hours worth of musical motifs and ideas into eighty minutes of electronic expression. What keeps Audiobulb's latest compilation interesting is the diversity of approaches and sonic creativity. There's a lot of ideas here and most of them are executed with complex aplomb. Excellent." DE:BUG (Germany): " Every track has a real body with tons of ideas and crazy grooves - torn apart but with a swinging attitude and most importantly the whole thing holds together very well." EM411 (USA): "Conclusions? Awesome production all round, and some real instantly memorable gems. The rest take more work and persistence but reward with some beautiful mood-enhancing music. Good work Audiobulb." Cut Up Media (Holland): " Music moves, scours, caresses and agitates. After every turn we discover new sounds, new emotions also. It is particularly stimulating and pleasant as the artists stretch the listener with their work. Intricate maximum can measure themselves with the best of more established electronic labels such as Warp, Rephlex or Planet Mu." Intricate Maximals features the sublimely dubbed-out and glitched-in 'Latticel Work' by Calika as featured in the online mp3 section of The Wire. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 10:34:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34972-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75339 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:34:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 75329 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:34:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:34:15 +0100 From: Jair-Rohm Parker Wells <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Exquisite Noise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VRzCkpmUKLPYP89V4FiqWg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_VRzCkpmUKLPYP89V4FiqWg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit High all! Exquisite noise has been restocked on cdBaby (http://cdbaby.com/cd/jairrohmpw). So those of you who have been waiting to get a copy now's the time. For those of you who are interested in drones, noise and textual (rather than harmonic) organisation, check it out here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/jairrohmpw . JPW Hear and buy "Exquisite Noise" at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/jairrohmpw --Boundary_(ID_VRzCkpmUKLPYP89V4FiqWg)-- From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 09:43:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34971-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60421 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:16:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 60410 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:16:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:16:37 +0100 From: Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AMS In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mail-followup-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo, andrew benson hat gesagt: // andrew benson wrote: > There has been a lot of talk about this on the Max/MSP > list as well. I imagine we'll be seeing some flying > laptops in the near future. And later long-haired male fans in the audience will play invisible air laptops to your a(ms)bstract tunes. Personally I'd rather use motion sensors in a Gameboy than in a laptop - less is more. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ _ __latest track: "scans" _ http://footils.org/cms/show/41 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 10:41:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34970-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27320 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:28:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 27308 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:28:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:28:53 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Jackson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: AI in microsound To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=YeyCKhOUb2+GAZzaluA8P9Grt4JH0B+DMm4t8ZxBpys1beAcx7/DIFixDRAJ29m+Q+zw6D+57Mv8CZZJ4ZkWGgESb/p6/MBt5fEvOiIWNOCzXtBaBAiEPvdqBpXedPoHjcR7xqYfzXG8SPKVw6IiyucWRDqeaybkBzJFMG6G3iM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >... > How many of you microsounders are using AI algorithms, > and what have your experiences been? Ever used neural > networks/second- and third-order Markov chains/genetic > algorithms/generative grammars/other? Hi David, The GA has been my almost exclusive tool since 1998. I use a custom softsynth which allows me to breed new timbres, thus freeing me up to act more as "gardener" more "engineer". I love it, but I admit that I don't really see this as an "AI" approach. A true AI approch would be automation of the fitness function via training of neural networks, etc. When I have more time ;) As a shameless plug, I utilized the GA approach heavily for the more abstract tracks on "do" (Fallt, invalidObjects), and the much more recent "Songs of the Watchmaker" (Scarcelight). -Wayne, aka "Later Days" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 05:18:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34969-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11804 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:18:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 11794 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:18:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AMS In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=w6a7dYraxAiQ6rTob5BRNCsGEovl+lc4T6p9crivzp6+H1g4za7teE2mNz3dHSBrCvvGWCquuD66ZffJ2hHGUVlavWDn2PLqWDdMg4OYbvmt0TJdAdEg1dxZGKkZZEB8xedZOnimzETxgCylo7FWSZS1p1lrlG7UE+Dc49Sc0eQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There has been a lot of talk about this on the Max/MSP list as well. I imagine we'll be seeing some flying laptops in the near future. andrew --- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > this might be a way to become more 'performative' > with a laptop: > http://kernelthread.com/software/ams2hid/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Benson www.cloud-machine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 00:20:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34967-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29706 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:20:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 29683 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:20:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:19:58 +0000 From: slow sound system <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] april show : john chantler, function live at the foundry To: Ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Dorkbot London <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, DorkbotLondon-Blabber <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, lowercase sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, foundry news <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Wire Announcements <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <0ef101c52e74$e5399f50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2005 00:20:46.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE006550:01C52E74] SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED ------- THE FOUNDRY : 17 APRIL 2005 : 3-8PM ------- 'Quality avant chillage' BBCi 'Unadulterated bliss .' RESONANCE FM ------- The slow sound system explores ambient listening, new electronica and pixel manipulation. This month we showcase new sounds from the Southern hemisphere. John Chantler's delicate electro-acoustic avant-guitar and laptop excursions reach us from Brisbane, via rural Japan and Tulse Hill. Fellow Oz expat Function aka Matt Nicholson lays down mesmerizing psych-pop, microsonics and deep, sleepy drones. Resident djs iMax and Albert back up with digitals and soundscaping, plus we have digital artworks and flash workouts from Janek Ropinsky. Full details follow. ------ ARTIST BIOS John Chantler (Fat Cat / Room40 / Piehead / Hello Square) (aus/uk) : non-place guitar, drums + laptop excursions John Chantler is an exciting talent. Resident of Brisbane, rural Japan and now South London, John has developed his sound from organic electronics to his current interests in exploratory electro-acoustics, messy guitars and a loose spin on rhythm. John's acclaimed first album, Monoke was released on Lawrence English's Room40 label in 2002. He's kept busy since then, with a limited edition album on Piehead, Locked in Hands, curating a series of 10" vinyl for Room40, an online release for Fat Cat (recorded with Japanese artists Saya, Takashi Ueno and Koji Shibuya) and the beyond-underground 'Swedish Folksong Project'. John's performed alongside Mum, Janek Schaefer, DJ Olive, Ami Yoshida and Taku Sugimoto. Just back from another Japanese trip, he also spins a mix of psych-pop, electronica and krautrock at Waiting for the Picture Bus, a bi-weekly session at Escape in Herne Hill. 'Melody on hammered strings . robust and driven' THE WIRE 'Monoke is the first in a series of essential recordings' THE MILK FACTORY 'Intelligent and subtle . maybe think Tortoise jamming with the Black Dog?' SMALLFISH 'Nice slice of post-millennial electronica' PITCHFORKMEDIA 'Utterly absorbing and resonant work' FIRST PAST THE POST ------ Function / Matt Nicholson (Fat Cat / Hello Square / Wonderground / Love & Mercy) (aus / uk) : mutant pop, microsonics + sleepy drone Function is Matt Nicholson and an ever-shifting set of collaborators in London, Melbourne and spaces in between. Function's sound is equally hard to pin down, taking in ecstatic pop, microscopic soundwork, slices of orchestral instrumentation and deep Eastern drones. Key reference points include The Books, Ekkehard Ehlers, Fennesz, Pluramon, Philip Jeck, Sufjan Stevens, Susumu Yokota, Rafael Toral or Town & Country. Another busy artist - expect an online release for FatCat very shortly - Matt has assembled 10 hours of soundtracks for the sacred art suites of Advaitayana Buddhist Master Adi Da . for us he will be performing new material solo, including manipulated improvisation of various acoustic sources and field recordings culled from all over the globe. Expect mesmerising, heartfelt, subtly orchestrated electro-acoustic collage. 'One of this year's most intriguing releases . an ambition to make something entirely new out of a very tired form' THE DEEP END, ABC 'The finest album to emerge from Australia this year. .this is magical music, hot shit, serious, suffocating and sparse, and aesthetically exquisite.' ADEQUACY.NET 'A stunning masterwork of intriguing musical delights' MONO.NET 'A subtle eclectic expansive epic' SCENE ------ RESIDENTS iMax, Albert (Grain Of Sound, 8Bitrecs, KabukiKore) (uk/fr) : decks + FX Janek Ropinsky (Hardman Bros, Pop-Up Recs) (d) : flashwerks, digital sublime ------ DETAILS Sunday 17 April, 3-8pm, free admission The Foundry, 84-86 Great Eastern St, London, ec2 : 0207 739 6900 : xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx : www.foundry.tv xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ------ CHECK http://www.inventingzero.net http://www.functionensemble.com http://www.room40.org http://www.kabukikore.net http://www.8bitrecs.com http://www.hardmanbros.com http://www.jayropinsky.kliklak.net Ends slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- ----- new! live sets archive w/motion, recon, crucial felix/timeblind, sebastien roux, adam butler/vert and more http://www.slowsound.net 'small pieces', every friday on Resonance 101.4fm, midnight-1am GMT http://www.resonancefm.com 'there is no hidden meaning', out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net ----- ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://no-signal.net highpointlowlife : bitmpapped indie goodness since 98 http://www.highpointlowlife.com sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.sprawl.org.uk frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 22 01:47:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34968-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59633 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:47:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 59623 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:47:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:50:12 -0500 (EST) From: frederic yarm <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Call for Submissions To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> > I don't understand the necessary logic of point 3. My preference would > be to explore the medium exactly in that area. > > > #3 One point about the field recording aspect of it is stressing that > > the person recording is not part of the recording in orchestrating or > > making the sounds, only a passive observer and documenter (obviously, > > just being there has an effect albeit hopefully minor). The point as written follows the traditional phonography definition of what a field recording is. The logic behind stipulating this is to avoid the composer's preconceived ideas of music if there is someone orchestrating or making the noises intentionally for the recording. The composer's job is to record the sounds (passive) and then transform them into his or her own work (active). This process sets it apart from other types of sound art. The initial concept of this compilation stemmed from a conversation between the label owner and myself in regards to a compilation I had just participated in and felt was a good academic learning experience since it was rather removed from what I had ever done whereas for others, it was commonplace. Feel free to accept the challenge as the rules of the compilation describe it and participate. Otherwise, there are plenty of good compilations out there with calls for submissions that fall out of this category and these rules. Cheers, Frederic --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 22:59:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34966-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1074 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 1044 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:59:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:59:01 +0100 From: Davide Morelli <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R: [microsound] AI in microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <KKEHKBKMENKGANGNKPPICELCDCAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You should read Who is Listening? By Gregory M. Rippin he try to build an intelligent agent in PureData for musical improvvisation with partial success you can download it here http://homepages.nyu.edu/~gmr222/interactiveMusic.html Please keep me posted, because I planned to try do something similar one of these days! > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: david golightly [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] > Inviato: lunedì 21 marzo 2005 15.11 > A: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Oggetto: [microsound] AI in microsound > > > I'm starting to develop a set of AI algorithms to assist in live > performance, which will (roughly speaking) analyze control > messages that I > send and, after a certain point, be able to generate their own control > messages based on the patterns I used. Eventually I'd like to design an > algorithm to analyze a continuously changing audio texture on multiple > levels and be able to reproduce similar, non-repeating textures. I've > started by giving my PD patch some various recordings of birdsong (of the > eastern Wood Thrush) for analysis, hoping to tune it to be able > to generate > its own non-repeating woodthrush-like song. > > For discussion: What AI algorithms are the most useful in microsound > performance - in practice, not only in theory? How many of you > microsounders are using AI algorithms, and what have your > experiences been? > Ever used neural networks/second- and third-order Markov chains/genetic > algorithms/generative grammars/other? On what time scale > (piece-structure, > moment, sound-event, or microsound generation)? There was an interesting > interview with Brian Eno back in the 1980's (with The Wire mag, I > believe) > where he expressed a desire for a musical "black box" that could produce > music in a given style, a Beethoven black box, a Beatles black > box, an Eno > black box... Beyond whatever proprietary concerns are involved, is this > even achievable? There's been a lot of talk of letting your > laptop play a > wave file vs. performing the music yourself, but does anyone have any > experience teaching your computer to make desicions for you? > > Cf.: > David Cope, Experiments in Musical Intelligence > Eduardo Reck Miranda (though I find his experiments with cellular > automata > contrived and unconvincing) > among others > > thanks, > david > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 21:30:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34965-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52457 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:30:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 52447 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:30:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:30:16 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AMS To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this might be a way to become more 'performative' with a laptop: http://kernelthread.com/software/ams2hid/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 21:25:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34964-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47839 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:24:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 47806 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:24:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:24:16 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] install fest in Latin America To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Spanish: http://installfest.info/ English: http://installfest.info/default.en looks interesting...please send/post this to other lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 19:31:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34963-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97168 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:30:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 97157 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:30:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:33:30 -0500 From: doug van nort <xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 17 Mar 2005 23:26:18 -0000 Issue 1374 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx heya kathy tis true i have been thinking about/doing network music for a little while now and particularly (recently) in the context of the specific projects you are mentioning here.... i'd love to include the microsound list on such a project - especially since i too am predominantly a lurker here and want to be a good lil community member. the thing is how to include this large group of people in a project that is intended to be (for example) point to point transmission of 8 channels of audio (where is the intended audience and where is the space of interaction, etc.) i've got some ideas and maybe one of them will even turn out to be good and feasible and i will invite the list and all that...if people have done similar projects (large distributed network of participants who perform only in virtual space interacting with a few participants in different physical spaces connecting their audio via broadband connection.....or something of the sort....) and can point me to their work please email me off list and we'll discuss. ---doug On Mar 17, 2005, at 9:50 PM, kathy kennedy wrote: >> re: Microsound Performance Project? > On Mar 17, 2005, at 3:26 PM, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > wrote: > > This sounds like it was meant to happen. > I think I know how this should get done. > > Pauline Oliveros has worked at this very kind of project of connecting > performers via digital networking for decades now. She was just in > Mtl. at the SAT, exploring the successful performances of 8 channel > broadband diffusion. We have been doing it through McGill here for a > while now. Pauline has also used this format at RPI (Troy, NY) I > believe. > > I, having lurked for some time now, know that Tobias Van der Veen > should get right on it and make this happen. Doug Van der Nort, you > should help make it happen too! > > I'm done but would simply like to be remembered for having brought it > up first:-) > xx > kk > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > _________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 17:50:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34962-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53699 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:50:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 53689 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:50:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:50:35 -0500 From: david golightly <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <p06200718be64b25c0057@[192.168.0.2]> X-Originating-IP: [65.54.175.210] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 17:50:35.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C508930:01C52E3E] Yes, I suppose the "classic" example, where just absolutely everything's governed by Fibonacci/Golden Section is Bartok's "Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta", especially the 1st movement, which was just covered to death in 20th century analysis classes at my music school. It's true that artists, especially, for instance, renaissance-era painters as well as composers like Palestrina and classical architects (i.e. the Parthenon) all used the Golden Section, because of its "natural" proportion. In fact, it's probably one of the best-known proportions out there. I find, though, too often composers pick this tool up too quickly, and automatically cause their work to conform to these proportions, where others might in fact be better for a given piece. It's almost *too* perfect - too easy to just apply these proportions whenever you're at a loss for form. Which is not to say that they can't still be used - just that not every piece, not every aesthetic experience is best organized in this way. A more interesting approach would be, taking the natural inclination to experience things in accordance with the Golden Section, to play off that by skewing proportions so key events don't come when expected. It's a little boring to be able to expect, for a 10 minute piece, that the climax will come at 6 minutes and change, and find this again and again in piece after piece. >From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:32:12 -0800 > >At 11:06 AM -0600 3/21/05, David Powers wrote: >>Well, I don't know if you can "wear out" something that may not be >>directly accessible to the listener... Composers often find inspiration >>from engaging in rather arbitrary mathematical games (fibonacci, but also >>serialism, fugue, canon, etc.). I think the real question is whether such >>techniques are useful springboards for the composer's imagination. > >The Fibonacci series is also a natural phenomenon that gives shape to many >living things and that forms the basis for the Golden Proportion. Humans >seem to find this proportion universally pleasing and therefore the use of >Fibonacci proportions is a natural and easy way to create structures that >"work" aesthetically. > > >P.S. The Fibonacci series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21...) is formed by adding >two consecutive terms to derive the next term in the series (therefore 13 + >21 gives the next term 34). The Golden Mean (or Golden Proportion or Ratio) >may be approximated by dividing consecutive Fibonacci numbers (13/21 = >0.61905..., 21/13 = 1.61538...). > >The higher up the series the closer the approximation to the proportion, >which is commonly represented as "phi" and equals 1.6180339887499... or >-0.61803398874989... For more details and an explanation of why phi has >two values, see: > >http://www.vashti.net/mceinc/golden.htm >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://salamandersongs.com >http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 17:40:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34961-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48831 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:40:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 48820 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:40:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:32:12 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200718be64b25c0057@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GUpo8Wq3JJL4iG5yVGwKTA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_GUpo8Wq3JJL4iG5yVGwKTA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 11:06 AM -0600 3/21/05, David Powers wrote: >Well, I don't know if you can "wear out" something that may not be >directly accessible to the listener... Composers often find >inspiration from engaging in rather arbitrary mathematical games >(fibonacci, but also serialism, fugue, canon, etc.). I think the >real question is whether such techniques are useful springboards for >the composer's imagination. The Fibonacci series is also a natural phenomenon that gives shape to many living things and that forms the basis for the Golden Proportion. Humans seem to find this proportion universally pleasing and therefore the use of Fibonacci proportions is a natural and easy way to create structures that "work" aesthetically. P.S. The Fibonacci series (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21...) is formed by adding two consecutive terms to derive the next term in the series (therefore 13 + 21 gives the next term 34). The Golden Mean (or Golden Proportion or Ratio) may be approximated by dividing consecutive Fibonacci numbers (13/21 = 0.61905..., 21/13 = 1.61538...). The higher up the series the closer the approximation to the proportion, which is commonly represented as "phi" and equals 1.6180339887499... or -0.61803398874989... For more details and an explanation of why phi has two values, see: http://www.vashti.net/mceinc/golden.htm -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --Boundary_(ID_GUpo8Wq3JJL4iG5yVGwKTA)-- From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 17:04:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34960-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33182 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 33171 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:06:52 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, I don't know if you can "wear out" something that may not be directly accessible to the listener... Composers often find inspiration from engaging in rather arbitrary mathematical games (fibonacci, but also serialism, fugue, canon, etc.). I think the real question is whether such techniques are useful springboards for the composer's imagination. Such games do seem to provide helpful limitations, since (unless you believe in some myth of "dialectical" progress) the thought of all available musical choices in the postmodern era can be rather overwhelming. ~David David Powers Secretary DePaul University, School of Education Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services 773-325-4806 >>> xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx 03/21/05 08:20AM >>> No joke, I understand the rock band Tool uses the fibonacci series in one of their songs (hence the genre name "math rock"). ;-) Might be an interesting reference if this is for a paper... It seems that direct use of mathematical proportions is becoming quite common nowadays, especially when composers for the last 60-70 years have been so driven on using math and math-like processes to drive their compositions. I've seen literally dozens of compositions that have an evident use of the fibonacci series or its relative, the golden section, and I've used it myself. Not that I can blame them - it's quite an appealing proportion - but it might be starting to wear out from overuse. >From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: [microsound] Fibonacci in music >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:33:39 -0600 (CST) > >Hi microsounders. > >Please, if somebody have information, info, examples or music proyect >produced around of the Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I appreciate >very much. > >PD: Very insteresting the laptop perfomance discussion! > >Best regards, Mika Martini. > > > > >------------------------------------------- >[M!M] [SCL] >[www.mikamartini.scd.cl] > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del >Mundo. >Visíta Yahoo! 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Mon Mar 21 16:44:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34959-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24192 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:44:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 24180 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:44:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:46:57 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hamster MIDI controller To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hmmm, the hamster part is fine, but it seems like there could have been much more interesting timbral, harmonic, and rhythm choices made for the hamsters to trigger. I don't understand why people do something "crazy" in one area, and then make these really timid compositional choices that doom the work to aesthetic failure. If the timbres are going to be Casio presets of flute and xylophone, at least use some more exotic harmonic and rhythmic material! ~David David Powers Secretary DePaul University, School of Education Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services 773-325-4806 >>> xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx 03/20/05 02:35PM >>> the future of music is here. apparently these little guys are headlining mutek this year. http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/eceprojectsland/STUDENTPROJ/2002to2003/lil2/ g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 15:42:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34958-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 99493 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:42:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 99483 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:42:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:50:54 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi David, sounds interesting. PD has quite a collection of random objects, but the cellular automata/neural network stuff isn't so immediately usable as the high-level objects I've seen in Max/MSP, but that's true in general about the differences between the two (PD = more DIY, no "black boxes", more low-level functions used vs. Max/MSP = more commercial, many high-level "black boxes" used instead of low-level objects). I used some basic stochastic generators for an electromagnetic installation called OZONE a year or two ago. Actually, I wish I had spent more time developing the algorithms, because once I started looking at all the stuff on generative art out there. I did find a few links to some interesting stuff already: http://www.r4nd.org/ http://www.r4nd.org/help2.html http://www.generativeart.com/ [many papers from several years of conferences] http://www.generativeart.com/2000/PHILIP_GALANTER.HTM http://www.pawfal.org/nebogeo/ http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-camusic/?Open&ca=daw-ja-news#resources [OR http://tinyurl.com/6wkxd] http://dataisnature.com/ [nice blog, BTW!] For the Soundscape-FM.net project, we'll be developing some kind of "intelligent" system to make mixes of the sounds based on transit between two points (i.e. play me a linear mix of all sounds in the database occurring if one were to travel between Amsterdam and Tokyo), but that is still under development and will go on-line in April. I'd be interested as well to hear about other projects out there. best, derek -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 57: "Do the words need changing?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 14:44:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34957-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78213 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:44:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 78203 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:44:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:44:23 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Laptop, etc as Performance device In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05200f05be648d9f6750@[64.63.223.137]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >a laptop can only not be considered a performance object if the level >>of understanding in observers of the performance holds more weight >>than the performance itself. >> nathand > > >Perhaps then this discussion is not about the role of the laptop but of >the relative importance of the audience. this is a very "tree falls in a forest" question, but a valid one. obviously the question of performance only arises with other people present; no one says "i did a musical performance yesterday in my room alone." so if the audience the main additional ingredient to make something a performance then their presence, undeerstanding, and reaction to what the artist is doing is hugely important. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 14:38:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34956-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76051 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:38:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 76037 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:38:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:37:28 +0000 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 14:38:36.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9FA1880:01C52E23] I've been using L-Systems to generate images and instructions for sound. L-Systems are based on strings, so I can breed the initial strings together, hence genetic programming. I haven't really got very far, but it's quite a simple approach that can be reapplied in various audio/visual systems and programming languages without much effort. The end result I wanted to achieve was based on peer to peer networks. You know those viruses that spot what you're searching for that create fake files to try and trick people into downloading them? I wanted to write a program that waited for users to search for particular keywords, then generate audio based on my algorithms and their keywords. Then you'd have little black boxes (as Eno said) hidden in p2p networks, creating unique tracks. Maybe someone's done this by now, maybe I'll finish my code one day! On 21 Mar 2005, at 14:10, david golightly wrote: > For discussion: What AI algorithms are the most useful in microsound > performance - in practice, not only in theory? How many of you > microsounders are using AI algorithms, and what have your experiences > been? Ever used neural networks/second- and third-order Markov > chains/genetic algorithms/generative grammars/other? On what time > scale (piece-structure, moment, sound-event, or microsound > generation)? There was an interesting interview with Brian Eno back in > the 1980's (with The Wire mag, I believe) where he expressed a desire > for a musical "black box" that could produce music in a given style, a > Beethoven black box, a Beatles black box, an Eno black box... Beyond > whatever proprietary concerns are involved, is this even achievable? > There's been a lot of talk of letting your laptop play a wave file vs. > performing the music yourself, but does anyone have any experience > teaching your computer to make desicions for you? -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 14:30:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34955-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72792 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72777 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:30:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Balazs, Gerofi" <xxxxx@xxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AI in microsound -> Continuator In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.9, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello There! Sony has an intresting project called "The Continuator". Description: The Continuator project involves a real time interaction with a system that learns musical styles. With the Continuator, users can play music as they wish, and the system will automatically engage in a dialogue by producing musical phrases designed as continuations of user input. Gradually, the dialogue becomes more and more interesting and challenging as the system continuously learns from all the previous interactions. We are interested in the forms of excitement produced, and the links with, e.g. the theory of Flow. Check it's homepage: http://www.csl.sony.fr/Research/Experiments/Continuator/index.php Regards, B. Gerofi On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, david golightly wrote: > I'm starting to develop a set of AI algorithms to assist in live > performance, which will (roughly speaking) analyze control messages that I > send and, after a certain point, be able to generate their own control > messages based on the patterns I used. Eventually I'd like to design an > algorithm to analyze a continuously changing audio texture on multiple > levels and be able to reproduce similar, non-repeating textures. I've > started by giving my PD patch some various recordings of birdsong (of the > eastern Wood Thrush) for analysis, hoping to tune it to be able to generate > its own non-repeating woodthrush-like song. > > For discussion: What AI algorithms are the most useful in microsound > performance - in practice, not only in theory? How many of you > microsounders are using AI algorithms, and what have your experiences been? > Ever used neural networks/second- and third-order Markov chains/genetic > algorithms/generative grammars/other? On what time scale (piece-structure, > moment, sound-event, or microsound generation)? There was an interesting > interview with Brian Eno back in the 1980's (with The Wire mag, I believe) > where he expressed a desire for a musical "black box" that could produce > music in a given style, a Beethoven black box, a Beatles black box, an Eno > black box... Beyond whatever proprietary concerns are involved, is this > even achievable? There's been a lot of talk of letting your laptop play a > wave file vs. performing the music yourself, but does anyone have any > experience teaching your computer to make desicions for you? > > Cf.: > David Cope, Experiments in Musical Intelligence > Eduardo Reck Miranda (though I find his experiments with cellular automata > contrived and unconvincing) > among others > > thanks, > david > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 14:20:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34954-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68285 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 68273 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:20:05 -0500 From: david golightly <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [65.54.175.210] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 14:20:06.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[145AF170:01C52E21] No joke, I understand the rock band Tool uses the fibonacci series in one of their songs (hence the genre name "math rock"). ;-) Might be an interesting reference if this is for a paper... It seems that direct use of mathematical proportions is becoming quite common nowadays, especially when composers for the last 60-70 years have been so driven on using math and math-like processes to drive their compositions. I've seen literally dozens of compositions that have an evident use of the fibonacci series or its relative, the golden section, and I've used it myself. Not that I can blame them - it's quite an appealing proportion - but it might be starting to wear out from overuse. >From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: [microsound] Fibonacci in music >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:33:39 -0600 (CST) > >Hi microsounders. > >Please, if somebody have information, info, examples or music proyect >produced around of the Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I appreciate >very much. > >PD: Very insteresting the laptop perfomance discussion! > >Best regards, Mika Martini. > > > > >------------------------------------------- >[M!M] [SCL] >[www.mikamartini.scd.cl] > > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del >Mundo. >Visíta Yahoo! 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Mon Mar 21 14:10:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34953-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64436 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:10:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 64426 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:10:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:10:46 -0500 From: david golightly <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AI in microsound X-Originating-IP: [65.54.175.210] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 14:10:47.0288 (UTC) FILETIME=[C752BF80:01C52E1F] I'm starting to develop a set of AI algorithms to assist in live performance, which will (roughly speaking) analyze control messages that I send and, after a certain point, be able to generate their own control messages based on the patterns I used. Eventually I'd like to design an algorithm to analyze a continuously changing audio texture on multiple levels and be able to reproduce similar, non-repeating textures. I've started by giving my PD patch some various recordings of birdsong (of the eastern Wood Thrush) for analysis, hoping to tune it to be able to generate its own non-repeating woodthrush-like song. For discussion: What AI algorithms are the most useful in microsound performance - in practice, not only in theory? How many of you microsounders are using AI algorithms, and what have your experiences been? Ever used neural networks/second- and third-order Markov chains/genetic algorithms/generative grammars/other? On what time scale (piece-structure, moment, sound-event, or microsound generation)? There was an interesting interview with Brian Eno back in the 1980's (with The Wire mag, I believe) where he expressed a desire for a musical "black box" that could produce music in a given style, a Beethoven black box, a Beatles black box, an Eno black box... Beyond whatever proprietary concerns are involved, is this even achievable? There's been a lot of talk of letting your laptop play a wave file vs. performing the music yourself, but does anyone have any experience teaching your computer to make desicions for you? Cf.: David Cope, Experiments in Musical Intelligence Eduardo Reck Miranda (though I find his experiments with cellular automata contrived and unconvincing) among others thanks, david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 09:28:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34952-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51034 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 51023 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:28:29 +0200 From: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] (promo) New mp3-release by Kotra on Nishi + live announcement X-Originating-IP: 172.16.20.2 via proxy [193.201.27.41] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx friends! A new on-line release "Stamina" from Ukrainian microsound and abstract noise master and co-producer of Nexsound label - KOTRA on great Canadian based web-label Nishi. http://www.notype.com/nishi/releases/55/index.html Kotra will also be playing on 24 of march on Soundbridges festival in Austria. http://www.skug.at -= http://kotra.org.ua http://nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Mar 21 01:06:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34951-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58116 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:06:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 58101 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:06:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:06:11 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Laptop, etc as Performance device To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, nathan dickerson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >a laptop can only not be considered a performance object if the level >of understanding in observers of the performance holds more weight >than the performance itself. > nathand Perhaps then this discussion is not about the role of the laptop but of the relative importance of the audience. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 22:14:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34950-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84991 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:13:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 84980 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:13:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:13:50 -0800 From: Wakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Submissions In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE63359E.657D%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I don't understand the necessary logic of point 3. My preference would be to explore the medium exactly in that area. On 17/3/05 1:46 pm, "frederic yarm" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > These > are the ground rules/recommendations he stated for this project: > * Compositions solely using field recordings (with or without effects) to > create a droney, hypnotic, or otherworldly product. The use of delay, > loops, chorus, and reverb are encouraged. The listener should be able to > recognize the source material in some ways but not others. > * It will be an exercise in making 'music' out of non-instruments and > finding the beauty in unplanned or orchestrated events. > * One point about the field recording aspect of it is stressing that > the person recording is not part of the recording in orchestrating or > making the sounds, only a passive observer and documenter (obviously, just > being there has an effect albeit hopefully minor). > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Sun Mar 20 20:37:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34948-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52712 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:35:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 52695 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:35:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:35:31 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] hamster MIDI controller To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the future of music is here. apparently these little guys are headlining mutek this year. http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/eceprojectsland/STUDENTPROJ/2002to2003/lil2/ g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 20:12:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34947-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45151 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:12:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 45135 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:12:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:20:47 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [news] new free DVD-Audio software To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If anyone here is interested in authoring an audio DVD disk with free + open source tools, this new app just came down the pipe: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ Looks quite handy. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 133: "remember quiet evenings" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 18:40:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34946-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13761 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:39:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 13734 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:39:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:39:41 -0600 (CST) From: Manrico Montero <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Manrico xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx Sonore, Avatar In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OQ+rdduYyImSt32vkehKKg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_OQ+rdduYyImSt32vkehKKg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi there to all, i want to share a link where you can hear my session at the Excavation Sonore, with the audio art crew from Québec, Avatar, http://www.meduse.org/avatar/ , originally released on its mp3 cd compilation "11 h, Excavation Sonore" (ohmavtr32), on Ohm éditions. http://www.kunstradio.at/RADIOTOPIA/DATA/MP3/p/excavation_sonore_1.m3u :) Manrico Montero Mexico City --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley this was march's framework:focus edition, featuring a studio visit from the curator of the online mp3 label stasisfield, john kannenberg. john spoke to us about stasisfield's online exhibition the audible still-life, and brought us a selection of the sounds used in it, as well as a number of the resulting tracks from the accompanying cd release. each participating artist was given four directives: 1. construct a still-life 2. create a visual artwork that documents the still-life 3. record the sound that the still-life made 4. create an audio composition derived from the sound of the still life the resulting exhibition, as well as information on the cd release, can be found here: http://www.stasisfield.com/space/still-life. the second half of the show consisted of live studio performance by john also using some of the material from the exhibition. for more info on the stasisfield mp3 label and the work of john kannenberg, see http://www.stasisfield.com and http://home.earthlink.net/~jkannenberg. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11.03.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 23.03.05, at 11:00am gmt glenn bach / two rooms / exhibition glenn bach / phye / cd hal rammel / highway construction (at rest) / exhibition hal rammel / highway construction (in action) / cd sawako / dd source / exhibition sawako / dd (dream of the dog) / cd john hudak / untitled source april 2003 / exhibition john hudak / untitled april 2003 / cd koura / field (found objects in main port office, gifu, japan) / exhibition koura / okuru / cd steve roden / mic resting on bookshelf / exhibition steve roden / bookshelf (the titles of visible books) / cd john kannenberg / live in the resonancefm studios betsy biggs / deluge / exhibition ethan koehler / stella remembers / cd -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_3tZ6x/d8t89YNApM3ar2ZQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 04:10:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34944-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10604 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:10:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 10594 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:10:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:10:27 -0800 From: nathan dickerson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Laptop, etc as Performance device In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: nathan dickerson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=AxH5KI5EcDhWLaeaQLeQFp5LseN51UtyvnS1R31K8jYOYpkuw1yJcEhKZIBU7qNlixr/tcjU3v2payHoigC/gBw9RUl7d+BvfWnKGnHJnCesD/5CgFw9FVfYH0NmBhqB8cAS5kKFu5aWgHSMEsykjbuHQMKtAma1HRes9HdKiww= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i agree on this point. if you look at a laptop as a performance object, excluding the consideration of software, as an essential part of the laptop, as the performance object in the first place, you may expand the base object by adding additional controllers such as keyboards, knob boxes, and touch sensitive devices. i currently run a setup from a linux laptop with 3 different midi controllers performing improvised sound with custom synthesizers in csound. it is quite a feat to control these in realtime, as some of the sound generators are constant and not played like traditional instruments and synthesizers. it is quite different than touching keys and the mouse pad, however; all the additions present are simply input extentions of the laptop itself. although performing with the additions adds more to the visual presentation of the performance, it does not devalue the laptop as a audio performance object. if you removed the keyboard from the laptop and rewired it, mounting the keys A-Z as buttons, spacing them a meter apart from each other, then triggering sounds or modifiying parameters from these keys, it would be more visual in that you would see a person running around on the stage pressing buttons in different locations, however; due to the physical spacing of the keys and the limitation of human speed, it would greatly reduce the theoretical level of maximum complexity inherient in the device, thus, in a sense, devaluing the maximum potential of the audio performance. to say this is more of a audio performance due to the physical movement of the operator seems silly. a laptop can only not be considered a performance object if the level of understanding in observers of the performance holds more weight than the performance itself. i look at a performance as a manifestation of an operator in a system to produce a desired effect. a performance exists as long as the operator has control which is quite independent of an observers realization of the operators control. nathand On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:26:12 -0800 (PST), andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I think you are indirectly touching on an interesting > point, which is that one of the true beauties of the > powerbook as a performance tool is all the goodies you > can plug into it. I think for me the gestural > performance is only important because I am > specifically interested in creating a relational space > between sound and the body. I am thinking of tools > as prosthesis, a way to augment the human function. > > In regards to modifying joysticks, I do it a lot > (mostly because I can't afford expensive usb/midi > sensorboxes), and it's very easy once you get to know > the circuit a little bit. I don't want to get all OT > teched out here, so if anyone's interested in cracking > joysticks, contact me offlist... > > I think also the discussion regarding the context of > laptop performance is an important one. There are not > too many proper spaces that are conducive to engaged > listening for such performances without going the art > gallery/concert hall route. What makes for an ideal > listening environment? Perhaps it has yet to be > constructed... > > Andrew > > --- xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > I use my laptop to perform noise, there was > > something that always troubled > > me, why would someone want to come out and see a > > computer nerd standing > > behind a laptop producing beeps and buzzes of > > unknown patterns. Should there > > truly be a performance to make it art. should > > dancing bears or trick dogs > > jumping through hoops of flame company my > > performance.........no. Noise > > performance is about the energy produced from the > > sound, it's what is felt not what > > is there for eye candy. pounding keys may not be > > the greatest act to see, > > but what's felt is to be known. I don't restrict > > myself to just a laptop, I > > have a trunk full of bent circuit goodies to play > > with as well. I have > > keyboards with no keys but touch sensitive sensors > > for randomness instead. A > > performance is about what is felt not what is seen. > > > > > > Geary > > > > Andrew Benson > www.cloud-machine.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://patternmedia.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 00:31:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34943-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57277 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:31:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 57255 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:31:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:31:08 -0800 From: xxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <p0620070fbe61307cbcd4@[192.168.0.2]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx-xxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9349/index.html On Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > At 12:47 AM +0000 3/19/05, Gavin Stevens wrote: > > >I did a track that was based on a clock-maths treatment > of Pascal's > >Triangle & the Fibonacci sequence. Both sequences > produced repeating > >patterns (Pascal quite short: 1-3-6-1-6-3-1-9-9; > Fibonacci rather longer > > >You can listen to (& free download) "When You Come to > Me" here: > > > >http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/gavin_stevens/all_tracks/ > > Oh yeah, I neglected to give a URL for my piece: > > http://www.salamandersongs.com/mp3/3_for_5.mp3 > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Mar 20 00:31:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34942-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57275 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:31:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 57255 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:31:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:31:08 -0800 From: xxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <p0620070fbe61307cbcd4@[192.168.0.2]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx-xxxxxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9349/index.html On Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > At 12:47 AM +0000 3/19/05, Gavin Stevens wrote: > > >I did a track that was based on a clock-maths treatment > of Pascal's > >Triangle & the Fibonacci sequence. Both sequences > produced repeating > >patterns (Pascal quite short: 1-3-6-1-6-3-1-9-9; > Fibonacci rather longer > > >You can listen to (& free download) "When You Come to > Me" here: > > > >http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/gavin_stevens/all_tracks/ > > Oh yeah, I neglected to give a URL for my piece: > > http://www.salamandersongs.com/mp3/3_for_5.mp3 > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 19:01:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34941-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65225 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:00:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 65196 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:00:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:12 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop as a performance device. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SpLNgVHwjz367uwDLmEyWg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_SpLNgVHwjz367uwDLmEyWg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both. Except I am not sure I agree with the characterization of the performance as "artifical". On the one hand, in a venue/siituation where the content of the work can be satisfactorily isolated or focused on by an attentive audience, one would perform works which are best suited for that kind of venue/situation. On the other hand in a setting which may demand, er, let''s say a more "entertaining" or "crowd-engaging" approach, it would make sense as a performer, to take that into consideration when structuring the performance. I think it is a matter of asking those questions and honestly answering them. The reception of the work, the situation in which it manifests, the audience, are all in a sense, part of the work. One is never really just a "laptop artist", if one ventures into the public sphere. On Thursday, March 17, 2005, at 04:20 PM, Noel Peters wrote: > So I think arguing that it isn't a problem is a bit like preaching to > the converted. Is the approach to persist with the obvious > functionality > of the laptop and wait for audiences to latch on to the idea that it > doesn't matter, or is the approach to layer an artificial performance > over the top. I prefer the former, because the latter seems dishonest. > Or does that matter? CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_SpLNgVHwjz367uwDLmEyWg)-- From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 16:34:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34940-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:34:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28609 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:34:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 28599 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:34:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:33:58 -0800 From: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Calika @ The Wire In-reply-to: <00ef01c52c69$55777ed0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <001601c52983$28b82ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> <00ef01c52c69$55777ed0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx David @ Audiobulb wrote: > Hi Rudolphe, > > Thank you for your kind words - glad you enjoyed the track. It is > called 'Latticel Work' - by Calika (Simon Kealoha), as you can hear he > is musicially talented - he plays in a Jazz band and DJs - so he has a > good all round appreciation of musical technique and composition. > > Visit the site for more preview tracks from 'Intricate Maximals'. > > www.audiobulb.com > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange" > <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] Calika @ The Wire > David; Many thanks for that. It was a very impressive work. -- Regards, Rudolph A. Carrera Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange http://clcx.org/ http://clcx.blogspot.com/ http://rudycarrera.com/ http://rudolphcarrera.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 11:42:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34939-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76490 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 76480 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:41:59 +0100 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Mousikelab artgallery To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE61CE97.81ED%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rLxIMgWuTrNU6nQXcusShg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rLxIMgWuTrNU6nQXcusShg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, You are invited to see the exhibition of Totto Renna http://www.mousikelab.it/artgallery/ndex.htm Best marco messina http://www.mousikelab.com/ --Boundary_(ID_rLxIMgWuTrNU6nQXcusShg)-- From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 09:52:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34938-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57109 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:52:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 57099 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:52:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:50:00 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Calika @ The Wire To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Simon Kealoha <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ef01c52c69$55777ed0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <001601c52983$28b82ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Rudolphe, Thank you for your kind words - glad you enjoyed the track. It is called 'Latticel Work' - by Calika (Simon Kealoha), as you can hear he is musicially talented - he plays in a Jazz band and DJs - so he has a good all round appreciation of musical technique and composition. Visit the site for more preview tracks from 'Intricate Maximals'. www.audiobulb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange" <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Calika @ The Wire > David @ Audiobulb wrote: > >> The Wire have featured a Calika track in their mp3 archive :::: >> >> http://www.thewire.co.uk/mp3/calika.mp3 >> >> The track is taken from Audiobulb's Intricate Maximals compilation - out >> now at www.audiobulb.com >> >> Micro-glitch-groove-dub and guitar all in one track. Hope you enjoy. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> > David; > > Does this track have a name? It's quite remarkable. > > -- > Regards, > > Rudolph A. Carrera > Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange > http://clcx.org/ > http://clcx.blogspot.com/ > http://rudycarrera.com/ > http://rudolphcarrera.blogspot.com/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 07:48:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34937-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35617 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:48:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 35605 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:48:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:48:45 +0100 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Sat, 19 March 2005 : bern dj set >>>13h gtm and molair live >>> 14h gtm for netstockfest To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004301c52c58$14a79b80$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/wc+WRs8vQwXvmBZazXPMA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_/wc+WRs8vQwXvmBZazXPMA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello i'm playing dj set and Molair live for netstockfest streaming electronic music festival : www.netstockfest.net Sat, 19 March 2005 bern dj set >>>12h gtm molair live >>> 13h gtm thank for your support, all the best, bern + info / booking : Molair live / Bern dj www.bern-online.net www.molair.net [ new web site] --Boundary_(ID_/wc+WRs8vQwXvmBZazXPMA)-- From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 02:37:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34936-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58129 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:37:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 58118 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:37:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:37:11 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I wrote: > > A logical conclusion from the premise of phonography ("unintentional > > sound is worth listening to") Kim asked: > could you define 'unintentional sound'? I meant only: sound that is of [aesthetic] interest by fact of our attention to it -- as opposed to by the intent we could reasonably ascribe to its creator. (Our attention may be tickled by properties within the unintentional shared with familiar intentional sound, of course...!) Phonographically, this means, on either end of the spectrum: most musicians play instruments to be heard; the sounds made by most machines are "waste," undesired or arbitrary byproducts. More interesting (from this attempt to classify) are sounds away from the extremes: ritual sound (eg prayer); functional speech; natural soundscape eg flowing water and weather; animal communications -- there's a continuum of intent I believe we might ascribe to each. I'm interested in because I embrace the notion that we have much to learn from the serendipitous (read: accidental, unintended...). Again ~ this does seem to be a point where phonography and microsound intersect in an interesting way. Fwiw I find myself projecting ideas from "glitch" and "accident" aesthetics I read about on this group, towards a notion of "detritus" soundscape. I might say: "the rhythms of a manual printing press are arguably the result of a 'glitch' or oversight in its design and construction, or perhaps a necessary but unexamined consequence of those things..." The analogy might continue in more subtle ways; for example, I feel acoustic ecological concerns about "the noise problem" often seem to oversimplify the question of what noise is -- e.g. one person's noise is another person's "soundmark," even within the frame of reference of a lot of acoustic ecological discourse itself. Which is another way of saying, yesterday's noise is tommorow's masterpiece -- and perhaps today's cutting edge. best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 02:12:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34935-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10595 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:11:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 10572 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:11:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:30 -0500 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Laptop, etc as Performance device In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05200f02be6137418db1@[64.63.223.16]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>Is this barrier simply a short term obstacle present until the audience >>is able to understand the performative language of the laptop? > >No. There is no performative language of the laptop. Or more aptly, >yes there is a language, but it is only one syllable, and it is >misspelled. Unless someone does something performative, then there >really is no performance in practical terms. Laptop "performance" is >boring period. Just because someone gets up in front of people and >does something on their laptop does not mean that the entire history >of the performing arts should be re-calibrated to allow for that act >to be "good performance". It is a slap in the face to anyone who has >honed those performative skills. It is a slap in the face to the >audience to blame the lack of engagement in the performance on them >(the audience). You either have a good performance or you don't. >That definition is broad, and should be explored by anyone who wants >to "perform" using a laptop. The days of the novelty value of >someone getting up in front of people and doing something in real >time on their laptop are gone. hopefully yes...but once novelty value has gone is when what's really worth something rises to the top. i agree the audience can't be blamed, at least not entirely. if we don't understand, then laptop artists need to make us understand. again, context is all. i absolutely loved the kid606 show at rothko in nyc, which could have benn called boring by some standards i suppose. the onscreen visuals were manic and the music was completely insane. i didn't have time to be bored. i didn't care about the gear he was using (laptop and some outboard stuff). he didn't even play much of anything i recognized, so my owning a few CDs of his had no effect. i realize he could have theoretically done all the mixes prior to his arrival and just acted like he was doing something, but i think it was obvious that wasn't the case. by contrast, i couldn't have been more bored with the plaid show i saw, which had *teo* people onstage and also had visuals. that one i left early. i also have their CDs and probably enjoyed them about as much at the time as i do kid606 now. there must have been some difference between these two performances. once you've seen a few of these shows, you learn the language of the laptop performer: the furrowed brow, the darting eyes, the hurried motions back and forth with other gear, the sweating, the head bobbing, the fist-pumping. you could say it's all bullshit, but then you could say that of any aspect of visual performance in an essentially sonic medium. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 01:30:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34934-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97730 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 97719 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:28:46 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0620070fbe61307cbcd4@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/gOUk0w/MTlHdCembOcdrw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_/gOUk0w/MTlHdCembOcdrw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 12:47 AM +0000 3/19/05, Gavin Stevens wrote: >I did a track that was based on a clock-maths treatment of Pascal's >Triangle & the Fibonacci sequence. Both sequences produced repeating >patterns (Pascal quite short: 1-3-6-1-6-3-1-9-9; Fibonacci rather longer >You can listen to (& free download) "When You Come to Me" here: > >http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/gavin_stevens/all_tracks/ Oh yeah, I neglected to give a URL for my piece: http://www.salamandersongs.com/mp3/3_for_5.mp3 -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --Boundary_(ID_/gOUk0w/MTlHdCembOcdrw)-- From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 00:53:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34933-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84976 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:53:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 84961 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:53:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:47:23 +0000 From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: gavmusic MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Mika, I did a track that was based on a clock-maths treatment of Pascal's Triangle & the Fibonacci sequence. Both sequences produced repeating patterns (Pascal quite short: 1-3-6-1-6-3-1-9-9; Fibonacci rather longer - don't have it immediately to hand). Both sequences were used to determine duration & harmony. The track is called "When You Come to Me" & is the first track on my 1998 album "Staring at the Dawn". All 5 tracks on the album have some sort of mathematical / algorithmic basis. You can listen to (& free download) "When You Come to Me" here: http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/main/gavin_stevens/all_tracks/ I hope that you like it. Best wishes, Gavin. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:33:39 -0600 (CST) Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi microsounders. > > Please, if somebody have information, info, examples or music proyect > produced around of the Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I > appreciate very much. > > PD: Very insteresting the laptop perfomance discussion! > > Best regards, Mika Martini. > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > [M!M] [SCL] > [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto > del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Mar 19 00:27:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34932-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71299 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:27:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 71289 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:27:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:35:36 -0500 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Microsound Performance Project? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE60DE08.8762%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 3/18/05 11:22 AM, bruce tovsky at xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: i'd be interested in hosting a gathering of > nyc - based performers. > cheers > bruce Hi Bruce, I'm in Jersey so if something like this happens please keep me in mind. albert "omnid" casais --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 23:30:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34931-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54283 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:30:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 54271 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:30:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:26:25 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200707be6112b0c0d1@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_awrB2iMiGTIJQaj4JEQzeQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_awrB2iMiGTIJQaj4JEQzeQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 1:33 PM -0600 3/18/05, Mika Martini wrote: >Please, if somebody have information, info, >examples or music proyect produced around of the >Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I appreciate >very much. Lots of Finbonacci examples in Bartok's music. See: Ernö Lendvai. Béla Bartók: An Analysis of his Music, Kahn & Averill, London, 1971. Also many instances in Stockhausen's music. I used Fibonocci numbers for temporal proportions and other purposes in my percussion piece 3 for 5 (1979). -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --Boundary_(ID_awrB2iMiGTIJQaj4JEQzeQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 22:33:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34930-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31925 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:33:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 31915 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:33:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:30:55 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] podcasting/audioblogs/net.radio/p2p In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Interesting is that webradio and other streaming media is virtually killed in Germany by april. Simular to US a year ago or so, the rightholders societys GEMA and GVL increased the pauschal wages so incredible high that almost every free webradio shuts down in the moment. It goes together with strange rules about how many times an artist can be played in a row, making retrospectives impossible. I don't know if the often suggested solution to play artists which are not members of Gema (like me :) ) is valid or everything is plain illegal. Musicindustry acts now for some years as they want to kill themselves but this outragious behaviour even calls some politicians to duty (who normally ignore new media at best or fight against jobs by implementing software patents) because even they see that this kills new developments like podcasting: (links in german, maybe the fish helps) http://www.golem.de/0503/37038.html http://de.indymedia.org/2005/03/109339.shtml And didn't Apple downgrade Itunes so it can't stream mp3s? There it goes the digital life hub I guess... -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.disorder-records.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 21:05:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34929-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98258 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:57:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 98248 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:57:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:57:02 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 207 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MnXAp8i3djtfR8N2oNKISw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MnXAp8i3djtfR8N2oNKISw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/18/05 2:34:05 PM, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx writes: > > Please, if somebody have information, info, examples or music proyect > produced around of the Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I appreciate very much. > > Obrecht Masses, check out the Van Crevel edition in a music library. mediadrome international audiochrome, inc. --Boundary_(ID_MnXAp8i3djtfR8N2oNKISw)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 20:05:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34928-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79505 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 79495 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:44 +0000 From: "W.C.Schrimshaw" <x.x.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] FOR DISCUSSION... Sender: "W.C.Schrimshaw" <x.x.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-WebMail-UserId: n2090490 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Newcastle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx for more information X-Newcastle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Newcastle-MailScanner-From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00104934 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this is something we got onto discussing with Richard Middleton here in newcastle. In a seminar where the term post-vernacular started flying around, as a way of talking about music with an avant-garde type approach yet not working at the same bourgeoise level as the historical avant-garde movements which played upon the dualism between dirty popular and serious art music, the term popped up as a way of side-stepping these issues with strong historical resonances. The point was then made that the popular, of the people, has been hijacked and perhaps should be reclaimed rather than just running away from this term. clearly 'pop' music has a certain aesthetic meaning attached to it but why should people be deterred from defining their music as popular? >===== Original Message From Craque <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> ===== >It drives me crazy that popular music has actually become consumerist >music. > >I think we should change the name. > >Pop music used to carry an entirely different connotation... I prefer >to think of it as useful music for the community and 'popular' activity >that brings society together over class boundaries. It was never the >Popular Music that garnered a need for money, it used to be the other >way around; 'Art Music' is where the big bucks were, especially in >opera and theatre. > >Maybe if Capitialism is considered a popular activity that is >pragmatically useful, the actualization of today's Pop Music makes >sense (not to me, but probably to the 'Popular Majority'). Everything >about Popular Music has become appropriated by the manipulation machine >of the Music Industry. The elements of Pop Music are much more >interesting to me than the categorization of it being Pop. > >On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Peter Price wrote: >> >> If the word "pop" is problematic it is perhaps because you are using >> it problematically. Why can't we just agree that "pop" is short for >> "popular" ;) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org http://www.altho.org arts community --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 20:03:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34927-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77042 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:03:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 77023 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:03:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:00:55 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Fibonacci in music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mika Martini wrote: > Hi microsounders. > > Please, if somebody have information, info, examples or music proyect produced around of the Fibonacci number, teory or similar, I appreciate very much. > > PD: Very insteresting the laptop perfomance discussion! > > Best regards, Mika Martini. > The (net)label Bremsstrahlung did a compilation around that topic but its not released, or? I did a piece with some oscillators made in pd using Fibonaccinumbers as wavegenerator.... Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.disorder-records.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Best regards, Mika Martini. ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_X9lMTR3t07+EB35uM3XE0g)-- From ???@??? 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X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ixoSxAFWdQrwJ81IE3XPjg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, upcoming: Ok.suitcase @ Share In: Lucky Cat 245 Grand St. Brooklyn 21:30h check: http://share.dj/share/event_info.php?eventID=120 having just arrived to new york for a residency at Experimental Intermedia with Phill Niblock, André Gonçalves will present his first New York impressions. all the best Andre http://www.ctrl.tk --Boundary_(ID_ixoSxAFWdQrwJ81IE3XPjg)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 18:14:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34924-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29355 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:14:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 29344 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:14:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:18:25 -0800 From: io <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] unintentional sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE605B71.6D07%xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> A logical conclusion from the premise of phonography ("unintentional >> sound >> is worth listening to") > could you define 'unintentional sound'? > an escape of intestinal gas through the anus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 17:40:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34923-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18016 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:40:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 18002 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:40:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:40:39 -0800 (PST) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] the space of reception In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MxI51p+wTPqQuKNbjeDIP09byQJiCfaiaLbAHVWe2VCefPk85HpYSr+IDPDGNe7JcXgIALfIIhkiydMDY9Iw63smI3OdcpM6qHbCnV1e+YhGtO4NtmP5B0gjzMpfp5CIJ+0AZQyj6WsMUrHzKexzz78MVWUd7YhnPaMTRBq9DZs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think it would be invigorating to engage in the issues of audience-reception/institutional 'conventions' theoretically and generally, as regards laptop performance. In ANY space (rather then simply going with/frustratingly resigning to what the traditions/institutional spaces dictate as the norm -> art/gallery spaces are more comfortable for laptop performances, and rock/club/bar spaces create different set of expectations, type of thing). Been reading Site-Specific Art. It's got reasonably good sections on Morris' site works, and Happenings (i.e. Kaprow's "Only for Performers" for instance, and he doesn't mean all have to be musicians, or anything like that. he means wherein all became a part of its very event) -- how breaking down walls of expectations in audience-performer brought the situation/event to an entirely different level of real experience, and hence re-ignited an experience of art (lower case!). With laptop performances, I often feel that not enough thought is given to the space itself. Simply sitting down in the front of the stage is a a bit naive about the whole experience/event, at heart. Not that the scene has to be baroque or entertaining. Rather that even things like shifting the space such that the laptop performer is, for instance, on the floor and the audience is arranged in a funky all over the place way, can do things with the performance/event that make the sound transfigure beyond the usual passive audience/holy creator set up. This could go so much further. It would be interesting I think to develop a collaborative performance/project using Skype or other VOIP technology. Could then occur over vast distances, at the same time. >performance issues, >perhaps the next .microsound project should be a performance, something >that takes place in some particular space (in physical space >telematically, in net space, in each of our houses/apt's, or something >more vague), and involves some kind of contribution/collaboration from >all the participants. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Fri Mar 18 17:10:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34921-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5511 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:10:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 5501 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:10:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:10:09 -0600 From: vadim <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] acousmatic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: vadim <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UN0UwQyUxlnbaA3oMJ5LSao7vNukf4RZge/bm3HCD0jn7o8BVkofXMfxcn89uD+dMygnEj48GbRHszu3mSZGAE6GBHdfvfVv3M6yLTwTuBqos275Tb247MgFZqbTiwinb2dKeSs/1r1xTwMOFBJwZlNyd+KOqyG0ig9syb6TsJ4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx at mutek last year, i was at the raster-noton evening at a club type space (i forget the name). well attended but really aggravating for me because it seemed like everyone was talking through out the entire night which kind of ruined carsten's set for me, as he had some very quiet parts lost in the din. i think the venue certainly played a part in how people were responding (or not responding) to the music. unfortunately, some of it turned into background noise. the audience seemed more energized by olaf's techno-ish set, which was more appropriate (volume, dance-ability) for the place. im not trying to sound like a curmudgeon since i did have a good time but certain things are better presented in non-club/bar environs. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:04:15 -0700, devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I had similar experiences in Baltimore in the late 70's /early 80's at > recitals/shows at the Peabody Conservatory of Music. Ussachevsky would > present works as well as others whose names I do not recall. I was > young and it had the same effect on me. Amazing to sit and listen to, > and in that context this "performance" works... > > I think the problem arises when laptop performers expect that kind of > attention from the audience in more "club" or "entertainment" venues. -- v' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 17:06:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34920-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3763 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:05:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 3729 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:05:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:05:53 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] unintentional sound To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > A logical conclusion from the premise of phonography ("unintentional > sound > is worth listening to") could you define 'unintentional sound'? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 17:03:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34918-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98646 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:03:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 98621 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:03:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:04:15 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] acousmatic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2el1qKpCPUiYZ7cImKqCDA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2el1qKpCPUiYZ7cImKqCDA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had similar experiences in Baltimore in the late 70's /early 80's at recitals/shows at the Peabody Conservatory of Music. Ussachevsky would present works as well as others whose names I do not recall. I was young and it had the same effect on me. Amazing to sit and listen to, and in that context this "performance" works... I think the problem arises when laptop performers expect that kind of attention from the audience in more "club" or "entertainment" venues. I'd also like to add that my reference to "novelty" was intended to illustrate the way a club-going public "consumes" culture... the "Laptop thing" (as does all other cultural icons) has a certain amount of novelty value, which allows it to command space in the minds of cultural consumers. This created a market for laptop perfromers in those venues, many times without any relationship to the quality of their "performance" and/or music for that matter. Promoters of these kinds of shows want to be hip, and be presenting the latest cool thing (ie. high novelty value). My comment was that this novelty value has quickly faded (relative to location to some degree) and that just being a "laptop act" doesn't get you in the door as easily anymore. In fact to some extent I would argue that promoters have become wary of booking these acts, precisely because of these "performative issues" we are discussing. In short many audiences make it known that laptop shows are boring, and so promoters don't book them anymore. No promoter of this kind of show gives a damn about trying to "educate" the listeners, or re-formulating a gestural language or anything else... they just wanna sell tickets to happy throngs. Again, I am to some degree generalizing... but I still think it is valid. On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 09:05 AM, bruce tovsky wrote: > which brings to mind a show which totally changed the way i thought > about music... > this was in 1971, when i was a freshman in college at indiana > university > in bloomington, indiana. as some of you may know, iu has a well - > respected music program, one of the best in the country. in addition to > the usual suspects - classical and jazz programs - there was a thriving > avant-garde scene as well. i saw some fantastic cage prepared piano > recitals there. the "recital" that i am recalling, though, was of an > entirely > different nature. iannis xenakis was a composer-in-residence at iu at > this time, and he gave a faculty recital of his well-known > electroacoustic > piece "bohor" in multichannel > > On Mar 17, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > >> let's not forget the rich and deep legacy of acousmatic music as >> practiced in electro-acoustic circles for over forty years now...nor >> should we forget that often times novelty=spectacle=pop=emphemeral >> which I don't think holds much value for most acousmatic composers >> AFAIK... >> > CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_2el1qKpCPUiYZ7cImKqCDA)-- From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 17:04:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34919-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 616 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:04:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 603 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:04:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:03:46 -0500 From: Frank D'Urso <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] SPEAK FOR YOURSELF - Boston Zine Fair In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ya..... Roman the Edge will be performing noise behind two poets tomorrow at the revived Bean Town Zine Town Festival at Mass Art in Boston. Brian Mosher (BMO) and Ben Misch will be reading a few poems and the experiment will be interesting. The Zine fair starts at noon and is free, the performances begin at 7PM, also free. Plasticrazorprotecter and Sig Street join Frank and Dan D'Urso to create unique sonic scapes. A CDr AudioZine contains their last BTZT performance from Brandeis, VeeVille Volumes #2 will be available at teh show or via mailorder. OK details here: http://www.bostonzinefair.org/ The Zine fair will be open on Sunday as well. Also free. well. FrankD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 16:22:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34917-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 80246 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:22:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 80236 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:22:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:22:30 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Microsound Performance Project? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mar 17, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Scott Carver wrote: > It occurs to me... if we're all so interested in performance issues, > perhaps the next .microsound project should be a performance, > something that takes place in some particular space (in physical space > telematically, in net space, in each of our houses/apt's, or something > more vague), and involves some kind of contribution/collaboration from > all the participants. The only project we've had that's been remotely > like this was the droplifting project (which, IMHO, was the most > interesting project to date). I'm not proposing a specific project, > per se, but I think this would be an interesting challenge to > undertake and I'm wondering if anyone is interested. i have just finished setting up my studio/installation space in the brooklyn navy yard with just this kind of idea in mind. what we visualize is something along the lines of a salon, with people sharing their work in an intimate setting. my space is somewhat small - 700 sq feet - but with 15 ft ceilings it feels spacious. i have a quadraphonic sound system and a nice sony video projector, along with a new g4. i'd be interested in hosting a gathering of nyc - based performers. cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 16:11:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34916-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75710 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:11:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 75700 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:11:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:12:35 -0500 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE606823.700%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks ! ....great link to link. On 3/17/05 10:17 PM, "Noel Peters" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > And this link provides links to other works > > http://www.dlux.org.au/mobile/artandfilm.html > > > Noel > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 16:06:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34915-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72759 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:05:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 72749 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:05:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:05:43 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] acousmatic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx which brings to mind a show which totally changed the way i thought about music... this was in 1971, when i was a freshman in college at indiana university in bloomington, indiana. as some of you may know, iu has a well - respected music program, one of the best in the country. in addition to the usual suspects - classical and jazz programs - there was a thriving avant-garde scene as well. i saw some fantastic cage prepared piano recitals there. the "recital" that i am recalling, though, was of an entirely different nature. iannis xenakis was a composer-in-residence at iu at this time, and he gave a faculty recital of his well-known electroacoustic piece "bohor" in multichannel (17 or so speakers in a circle around the space) surround. the stage was bare save for a large 1" multitrack tape machine center stage, with a gray folding chair set beside it. xenakis walks in with a large box of tape under his arm, walks over to the machine and threads it up, hits play, and then sits down. while the amazing sound of "bohor" washed over us for the better part of an hour, xenakis sat there impassively, his scarred face displaying no emotion. unlike the cage piano piece, which hews to the traditional context of a piano recital and skews it from the inside out (pun intended) the xenakis piece blew away my (admittedly underdeveloped, we're talking indiana here) concepts of what a musical performance entails. i was engulfed in the wash of sound and fascinated watching xenakis calmly sit there as it swirled around the hall. cheers bruce On Mar 17, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > let's not forget the rich and deep legacy of acousmatic music as > practiced in electro-acoustic circles for over forty years now...nor > should we forget that often times novelty=spectacle=pop=emphemeral > which I don't think holds much value for most acousmatic composers > AFAIK... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 15:51:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34914-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68283 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:51:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 68273 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:51:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:51:44 -0800 (PST) From: { brad brace } <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] podcasting/audioblogs/net.radio/p2p In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx thanks Aaron! > The trick would be that the whole point of podcasting is to get content > passively on an ongoing, recurring basis -- are you thinking that someone > would subscribe (permanently) to the 10-second stream, ie whenever you put > up a new archive of a webstream, they'd get 10 seconds/minutes of it...? Sort of... of course I have no idea at this point how to code the lifting of various random excerpts for podcasts from the ongoing, streamed bbs-corpus. Could also incorporate (http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/abstraction-engine.html) titled "album art" with each mp3-excerpt... /:b --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 12:32:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34913-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96914 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:31:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 96900 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:31:23 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:39:50 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media In-reply-to: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Chad, chad vollrath wrote: > The MapHub application also has the ability to record the location that > the sound came from (given that the person who records it is able to > identify the location and enter it into their phone/PDA/or other mobile > device). But I don't know if this would be useful for a performance. > What do you all think - any ideas? Feedback? Does anyone know of any > similar projects? Sounds very similar to a project I am developing for PDAs and webserver for STEIM right now: http://www.umatic.nl/projects_pandev.html I'll have a deeper look at your project a bit later and maybe we can swap notes! best, derek *** The PANDev "Psycho Acoustic Navigational Device" PANDev is intended to be an sound-gathering and processing application written for PDAs and other portable devices running Linux. Its purpose is to assist psychogeographers, phonographers and sound artists in the collection and arrangement of environmental sound material for research and creative purposes. PANDev is conceived to remove the isolating intentionality of the specialist--the artist, the geographer, the ecologist, the phonographer, the biologist, the ethnographer, the sociologist, etc--and replace it with a more accessible and holistic method of gathering sounds. When activated, PANDev will take random sound samples at random lengths and intervals. A simple interface or command line can be given to specify approximate times, but all specific recording is left to the application. Connected to the PDA will be a set of binaural microphones hidden inside quite normal-appearing walkman headphones. The microphones will reproduce exactly the acoustic conditions around the wearer, including such important psychoacoustic spatial cues as front, back, left, right, above, below and relative distance. Using PANDev To use PANDev, all the user need do is input an approximate length of time to record and an approximate level of randomization. The application does the rest, and the user is free to travel through their environment or carry out their day-to-day life. Whether the user chooses to seek out acoustically-interesting settings or even perform for the microphone is of little relevance simply because they will not know exactly when PANDev is capturing sounds. Thus, a more "natural" approach is recommended. The resulting sounds may be as banal as they are sublime or exciting, but they are absolutely guaranteed to provide a unique insight into the user's acoustic environment. Optional Extensions to PANDev Remixing Experience PANDev has several other optional extensions. The first would be the ability to "remix" the sound material gathered at the end of the session, with a number of general subjective parameters including "rhythmic", "drone", "jagged", "smooth", "quiet", "loud", "linear", "disassociated", etc. An algorithmic composition can then be rendered and exported in WAV, AIFF, OGG, or MP3 format. It is important to keep in mind the extremely limited computing possibilities of a PDA [no floating point processor, for example, which most audio processing applications depend on!], therefore these algorithmic compositions must be considered as both pushing the hardware to the limits of its capabilties as well as an excercise in getting the most out of very little. Additionally, they provide a new way of remixing daily existance, with the aim of highlighting previously unnoticed details. Cartographical Visualization The second requires the use of a GPS unit attached to the PDA, from which PANDev would determine geographic coordinates to tag all sound samples gathered. These GPS-tagged sound samples could then be exported to a cartographic mapping system, either in realtime via a network [see below], or locally when each session is completed. For public exhibition, a running audio/visual display of the sounds gathered in the area could be maintained in a public or online space in collaboration Sara Kolster, a graphic and video artist from the Umatic group. See the following for an example of cartographic representation: http://berlin.soundscpae-fm.net Network Awareness The third involves the using the built-in WIFI of the PDA to activate the network potential of the unit. PANDev will regularly scan the local area network of the WIFI card for other units operating the same software. If another PANDev is located, the two seperate units could exchange audio data, thereby expanding each individual's realm of experience. The unit could also upload sounds gathered, along with cartographic data, to a central server in order to provide either rela-time monitoring, or the possibility for a sound artist to make a performative live-mix of the action in progress. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 149: "Take a break" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 12:09:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34912-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91316 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:09:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 91306 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:09:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:09:54 +0100 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] smbp live at netstockfest To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list today at 17 gtm will start netstockfest a 48 hours on line streaming elctronic music festival http://www.netstockfest.net SMBP live set 17 GTM best gianluca SundayMorningBrainProduction http://smbp.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 11:44:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34911-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87208 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:44:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 87198 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:44:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:42:34 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] performance discussion In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello > 1) what do you think about live coding as a performance? Where an artist > types in programming code to create the sound, such as Toplap > (www.toplap.org). The fact that the programming code is projected on the > screens is to give the audience an understanding of the process that is > going on to create the audio. Does the understanding of the process > increase ones appreciation of the sound & performance? My gutfeeling says, that this is the next hot bullshit thing, although it is some time around. Dont get me wrong, some results might be interesting but again the tools stands over content. I had the same feelings when everybody was into vjing but instead some artistic happenings only boring stolen loops where mixed together with some stupid filter effects and was more a good decoration. I dont think the audience would get it and can destinct inherent artefacts from intentional artistic efforts during a live coding session. It might give some thrills for people who never saw sourcecode before but this effect wears off fast. And then? Can real creative content be formulated in these tools? Projecting the toolset to make things transparent got some inherent problems. Remember when Max/MSP hype took off and lot of people uses the look of patches for artwork so the audience thought the design, not only the patch, was the artists one instead of Cycling74? I tried it myself on a concert in Sheffield to project my screen but I will not do it again because of these problems, it was only benificial for experienced fellow maxers, the rest just percieved a funny moving diagramme which acts in sync with the audible music :) > > 2) what do you think to tactile interfaces as an alternative to laptop > performances? Here are some example projects: > Audiopad - http://www.jamespatten.com/audiopad/ > Blockjam - http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/IL/projects/blockjam/ > Scanjam - http://www.muratnkonar.com/id/scanjam/ > (Scanjam is a concept project by two royal college of art students) > Audiocubes - http://www.audite.at/en/projects_audiocube.html > Let me throw in this one I saw on a conference a year ago, some pd folks are involved: http://www.iua.upf.es/mtg/reacTable These things are cool to create music and jam with some people and regain some haptic relationship. But it would be a funny picture for audience, adults playing with building blocks. We should dress ourselves like Pee Wee Herman and play around on the stage floor with these tinker toys :) Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.disorder-records.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Mar 18 09:14:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34909-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47326 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:14:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 47273 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:13:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:13:55 +0000 From: Chris O'Shea <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] performance discussion To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 09:14:28.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2F5BA80:01C52B9A] Hi I've been lurking on microsound for a few weeks and I am very interested in the laptop performance discussion, so thought I would throw in two things to see what everyone thought. 1) what do you think about live coding as a performance? Where an artist types in programming code to create the sound, such as Toplap (www.toplap.org). The fact that the programming code is projected on the screens is to give the audience an understanding of the process that is going on to create the audio. Does the understanding of the process increase ones appreciation of the sound & performance? 2) what do you think to tactile interfaces as an alternative to laptop performances? Here are some example projects: Audiopad - http://www.jamespatten.com/audiopad/ Blockjam - http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/IL/projects/blockjam/ Scanjam - http://www.muratnkonar.com/id/scanjam/ (Scanjam is a concept project by two royal college of art students) Audiocubes - http://www.audite.at/en/projects_audiocube.html It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on any of the above. Cheers -- ~ Chris O'Shea; # +44(0)7974 96871; # me-at-chrisoshea.org; # www.chrisoshea.org; --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 08:54:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34908-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37779 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:54:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 37768 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:54:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:54:40 -0800 From: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Kim Cascone's "The Aesthetics of Failure" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bill Ashline wrote: >On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:40:27 -0800, Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange ><xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >>Christos Carras wrote: >> >> >> >>>Owen Green wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>That's true, but unfortunately not in its entirety (though I'd >>>>reccomend the book nonetheless). >>>> >>>> >>>i find that a very frustrating aspect of the book: there are many >>>texts that are only partially reproduced, like a sample of someones >>>thinking. >>> >>>personally, i would have prefered fewer but complete texts. >>> >>>cc >>> >>> >>> >>Has anyone thought to place all of those texts into a large book, and >>would anyone pay, say, $50-60 for a copy? It seems like it would be a >>good idea to do something like this. >> >> > > >It's very common to take and edit down texts for readers of this kind. > Nothing unusual here. Abridgment for the sake of providing a taste >of a wide array of material is typical of academic publishing, and you >can consider a text like Audio Culture to be a general introduction to >the field. Microsound denizens are obviously ready for something more >advanced--for the most part I suspect. > > Bill; Great deduction, but I'll admit to being greedy and wanting a thorough education in the subject matter. To have access to as much material as possible would be quite nice, especially as I'd like to dive further into microsound's aesthetics. -- Regards, Rudolph A. Carrera Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange http://clcx.org/ http://clcx.blogspot.com/ http://rudycarrera.com/ http://rudolphcarrera.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 08:49:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34907-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35595 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:49:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 35585 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:49:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:48:44 -0800 From: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Calika @ The Wire In-reply-to: <001601c52983$28b82ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <001601c52983$28b82ae0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx David @ Audiobulb wrote: > The Wire have featured a Calika track in their mp3 archive :::: > > http://www.thewire.co.uk/mp3/calika.mp3 > > The track is taken from Audiobulb's Intricate Maximals compilation - > out now at www.audiobulb.com > > Micro-glitch-groove-dub and guitar all in one track. Hope you enjoy. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > David; Does this track have a name? It's quite remarkable. -- Regards, Rudolph A. Carrera Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange http://clcx.org/ http://clcx.blogspot.com/ http://rudycarrera.com/ http://rudolphcarrera.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 08:48:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34906-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34288 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:48:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 34228 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:48:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:47:54 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Kim Cascone's "The Aesthetics of Failure" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=E0VUOHbocZpq7aa1BIYp2X4rUkrxzXz8+mhMcKBVUeK6CaPcfKUTlGUJnKDemiel3vAtFtC7UgrO1wI94HKtV8yeO+sSzR1veWnNLPldWVW2u0/P7UC7Ld5BgY92TPSlCfZJ4PAWWbs9c3hIxhnx/WLorU7v0eRk4aUmCjgEbSs= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:40:27 -0800, Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > Christos Carras wrote: > > > Owen Green wrote: > > > >> > >> That's true, but unfortunately not in its entirety (though I'd > >> reccomend the book nonetheless). > > > > > > i find that a very frustrating aspect of the book: there are many > > texts that are only partially reproduced, like a sample of someones > > thinking. > > > > personally, i would have prefered fewer but complete texts. > > > > cc > > > Has anyone thought to place all of those texts into a large book, and > would anyone pay, say, $50-60 for a copy? It seems like it would be a > good idea to do something like this. It's very common to take and edit down texts for readers of this kind. Nothing unusual here. Abridgment for the sake of providing a taste of a wide array of material is typical of academic publishing, and you can consider a text like Audio Culture to be a general introduction to the field. Microsound denizens are obviously ready for something more advanced--for the most part I suspect. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 08:40:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34905-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31195 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:40:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 31185 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:40:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:40:27 -0800 From: Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Kim Cascone's "The Aesthetics of Failure" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Christos Carras wrote: > Owen Green wrote: > >> >> That's true, but unfortunately not in its entirety (though I'd >> reccomend the book nonetheless). > > > i find that a very frustrating aspect of the book: there are many > texts that are only partially reproduced, like a sample of someones > thinking. > > personally, i would have prefered fewer but complete texts. > > cc > Has anyone thought to place all of those texts into a large book, and would anyone pay, say, $50-60 for a copy? It seems like it would be a good idea to do something like this. -- Regards, Rudolph A. Carrera Carrera-Linn Cultural Exchange http://clcx.org/ http://clcx.blogspot.com/ http://rudycarrera.com/ http://rudolphcarrera.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 07:44:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34904-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19365 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:44:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 19355 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:44:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:44:05 +0800 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media In-reply-to: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.londonsoundscape.net/ > What do you all think - any ideas? Feedback? Does anyone know of any > similar projects? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 05:15:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34903-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78829 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:15:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 78819 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:15:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:15:47 -0800 (PST) From: andrew benson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] joysticks In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=NMfh+9o/mevSFm4pwQXwbom2FCW2rdUdLGQGsJv0vk9r/Nsv2hUWPZr1jzesjbYZwTKHYkgMn+rKb4PItxRcHCutFSh8HV1AZEc1BvBfQyJllQGe2M5S2kPc4wPP18tw4oRwl5wp6GYBvtZx4noFWTECPhXER3zXY+HB747JkE0= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > also at STEIM they have something called junXion > which runs on Mac OS > X, and lets you use any USB device for a MIDI > controller. I agree that Junxion is a great way to start with using joysticks and other devices(I started back when midijoy was the only option). I've stopped using it since Max/MSP started including real support for USB devices. I'm sure there are ways to get at the device data in other operating systems as well... It sure beats buying one of those expensive sensor interfaces, and with a little ingenuity you can fashion a custom device for all your gesamptkunstwerk needs. Andrew Benson www.cloud-machine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 03:51:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34902-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57559 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:51:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 57549 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:51:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:51:44 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media In-reply-to: <BE5F9C4A.6EC%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE5F9C4A.6EC%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > The idea of 'performing' with field recordings (i.e. if it's possible to > transmit your location recording while listening to the way they're being > processed simultaneously) is an interesting one...i wonder how feasible this > is ? Minus the gear, that's pretty much what a guided soundwalk is if course -- just flipping the challenge makes it all so much less expensive. Bring the people to the sound -- if you can. A logical conclusion from the premise of phonography ("unintentional sound is worth listening to") is that the goal is not so much to share specific recordings, but to cultivate and inculcate a particular kind of intentional listening (ie attention) both as a practioner and in the "audience." The more I work with field recordings the more I come to believe that my work and performance is all a slight of hand necessary to accomplish a not quite revealed goal, which is encouraging the listener to have a different relationship to what they hear -- regardless of context: in fact, *specifically* outside the context of performance, "work", etc. My current toy theory is that to a dramatic extent what distinguishes "interesting" phonography from un- is the conditioned application of attention. Which is not to say that we *should* cultivate a deep intentional interest in difficult (boring etc) listening -- but of course many of us on this last already have ;) -- but that we could; and that the cues we evolve to distinguish without reflection between what is and is not worth listening to are quite ductile. (Nothing new philosophically here, I just like pulling at it experimentally in my own chosen domain (field recording and composition therefrom). Fwiw I do think that this is a point where the interests (dare I say goals?) of "microsound" (esp. in its ultraminimalist vein) and my own kind of phonography are deeply allied and cross-fertile... But back to the idea of field recording "performance" -- Cf Janet Cardiff too; there is interesting territory yet to be explored with the use of field recording (and video analog thereof) to diffuse the boundaries of the real... among other things. Eg I've been talking with some folks here in SF who do some pretty intense immersive site-specific theater work (to date, always for an audience of one -- entire pieces created for an audience of a single specific person; the work based on research on and interviews with etc that person -- now there is some radical reconsideration I must say to put into practice!), about ideas of using binaural recordings played back in the space in which they were recorded in all sorts of interesting ways -- the quality is already there that you can cause some quite disorienting illusions... best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 03:17:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34901-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47364 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:17:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 47353 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:17:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:17:28 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx And this link provides links to other works http://www.dlux.org.au/mobile/artandfilm.html Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 03:15:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34900-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:15:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45757 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:14:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 45744 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:14:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:14:47 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here is something being done right now in Australia. Not the first as I understand... http://www.dlux.org.au/mobile/index.html Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Mar 17 23:49:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34889-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63264 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:49:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 63254 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:49:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:50:03 -0800 From: kathy kennedy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 17 Mar 2005 23:26:18 -0000 Issue 1374 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > re: Microsound Performance Project? On Mar 17, 2005, at 3:26 PM, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: This sounds like it was meant to happen. I think I know how this should get done. Pauline Oliveros has worked at this very kind of project of connecting performers via digital networking for decades now. She was just in Mtl. at the SAT, exploring the successful performances of 8 channel broadband diffusion. We have been doing it through McGill here for a while now. Pauline has also used this format at RPI (Troy, NY) I believe. I, having lurked for some time now, know that Tobias Van der Veen should get right on it and make this happen. Doug Van der Nort, you should help make it happen too! I'm done but would simply like to be remembered for having brought it up first:-) xx kk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 02:23:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34899-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26962 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:23:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 26952 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:23:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:23:38 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick O'Rourke <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] strange In-reply-to: <xxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MAOzab76DrRECJ0AEPQp2Ufa9uBK0DfnftWTcB80RJ1fAdPA29zOJtx1JXOPuiJPSqHrM90hrbwI9mNaqtiAl7Z2K8gh6YNd81McN/xmPZwGJJz+GvtdPjdPXjJ+jTmAuZzbUvlWubDi+KVZ0PXgScAMaeFQhV8M9LarX7kii/c= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you look on page 918 of the computer music tutorial and check figure 20.1. Peter Samson next to the Systems Concepts Digital Synthesizer. That mother is bigger and than refrigerator! Capable of creating 256 independent sound sources in real-time, controlled by mainframe, yikes! And I'm not talking about Peter. I'm not sure if it was ever used in a concert/performance setting, or what the interface was via main frame, but the realtime aspect suggest that this may have been possible. Perhaps someone the list knows more about this machine or Peter Samson's work? I'd be curious to hear what it people have made with it. __ Patrick (quietly reading and listening to the list for a few years) --- Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > michael trommer wrote: > > Good lord, they didn't actually perform concerts > with those things, though > > (did they ?!) > > > guess not because usally that music was not realtime > and edited (and > performend) on/from tape. > The Telharmonium should have been the biggest > machine used to perform a > concert, big like a factory and listenable over the > telephonline which > eventually jammend... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telharmonium > > -- > Malte Steiner > media art + development > -www.block4.com- > > New release: > Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of > disorder' on > http://www.disorder-records.de > more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: > http://java.block4.com/blog4/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 02:04:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34898-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19015 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:04:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 19004 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:04:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:02:07 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] strange In-reply-to: <BE5F8927.6E2%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE5F8927.6E2%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx michael trommer wrote: > Good lord, they didn't actually perform concerts with those things, though > (did they ?!) > guess not because usally that music was not realtime and edited (and performend) on/from tape. The Telharmonium should have been the biggest machine used to perform a concert, big like a factory and listenable over the telephonline which eventually jammend... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telharmonium -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.disorder-records.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Mar 18 02:01:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34897-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17342 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:01:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 17331 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:01:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:01:30 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] laptop performance / locative media In-reply-to: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's a great idea for a project... some ideas that come to mind: You can probably record the numbers of the people sending data. Though its somewhat tangential to your idea, I would be interested to see phone calls incorporated into the performance (a segment of the performance where the audience erupts into cell-phone-ringing would be fucking spectacular). Alternatively, I could see a tangent project where participants are called up and short mini-performances are broadcast to their phone, based on the database of sounds. I suspect you might be able to focus the project a little more depending on how you frame it to the participants. There needn't be a huge narrative behind it, but it might help if you focused on specific kinds of locations, sounds, subject material, etc. This could help give the piece more meaning/context, and help avoid a situation where the musicians have to force their way through a (probably bad) performance using nothing but 15 or 20 clips of people saying hello or recording their dogs (who knows, maybe this could be good). I think this project is hardly in danger of "celebrating the liberating power...". I suspect the primary "liberating power" that propelled cell phones to where they are now is the liberation of business people from the office. Without the support of businesses early on, I doubt cellular tech would have nearly infrastructure it has now. I would love to hear how the performance is progressing. Also, when you've got time, I would love to know more about the MapHub project, especially the technology behind it. - Scott Carver On Mar 17, 2005, at 4:29 PM, chad vollrath wrote: > I have been thinking a bit about a possible performance that > implements several laptops and mobile devices. I'm working on a > project called MapHub right now (which I believe I mentioned on here > one other time - www.maphub.org). MapHub is an internet application > that can store sounds, images and video from mobile devices. We are > considering putting together a performance in which we ask the > audience to call our number where they record audio into their cell > phones immediately prior to the show (field recordings of street > noise, or whatever they want). These sounds are immediately upped to > the database, and the musicians process the sounds on stage (we would > of course need to be connected to the net - a hotspot would be ideal). > I don't know how this would turn out, or how it would sound. I > imagine that the musicians (of which I would be one) would need at > least a little prep. time in order to isolate some sounds that might > serve as a percussive backdrop - something to give the piece some > structure. I also imagine that the audience - whether in a bar or not > - would be more engaged with the laptop performance, precisely because > they have helped to produce it (I know that I'd listen for the sound I > recorded). > I think that it is interesting that we now have the opportunity to > rely on the technology that the audience brings strapped to their > bodies as constitutive elements of the performance. (There are > certainly issues here that I'm not entirely comfortable with - I don't > want to "celebrate the liberating power of the cell phone" by any > means. Nor do I want to construct a performance atmosphere that > excludes people based on class and tech-literacy.) > The MapHub application also has the ability to record the location > that the sound came from (given that the person who records it is able > to identify the location and enter it into their phone/PDA/or other > mobile device). But I don't know if this would be useful for a > performance. > What do you all think - any ideas? Feedback? Does anyone know of any > similar projects? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<