Re: [AH] Seiko DS synths spotted on Ebay - and plea for schematics

From Steve Lenham
Sent Fri, Nov 15th 2019, 14:33

I love an obscure device and find the Seiko DS range fascinating.

I can back up what Peter says - not only are the plastic cases fairly 
fragile but (worse) the circuit boards inside are:

a) huge and not terribly well supported.
b) made of Paxolin (much weaker than fibreglass).
c) single-sided (leading to weak solder joints).

Essentially this means that any mechanical mistreatment is very likely 
to result in cracked PCBs and broken solder joints. I have two DS202s 
here and neither worked on arrival for those reasons.

While on the subject, I would love to hear from anyone who has service 
manuals/schematics for any of the Seiko DS range. I know they do exist, 
because the ex-head of Seiko's UK importer auctioned off a parcel of kit 
on eBay last year which included some service manuals, but I missed out 
and have been unable to contact the auction winner.

The DSs use a custom chip for their additive synthesis and a service 
manual would save a lot of time in reverse engineering. If one is to 
work towards an emulation then one must first understand the original...

Cheers,

Steve L.
Head of Seiko-logy
Benden Sound Technology






On 06/11/2019 21:51, xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx wrote:
> I hope the sellers pack them well.  I know about three of these that 
> have been semi-trashed in transit.  Possibly one of the most fragile 
> commercial synths ever.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> On 2019-11-06 20:50, stephen watson via analogue wrote:
> 
>> This is not me but an opportunity to own some rare additive synthesis. 
>> Don't see these synths often. Seem good at strings and atmosphere 
>> department, a bit cold and thin.
>>
>> Ebay listings:
>>
>> Seiko DS-202 keyboards with power supply, DS-320 sequencer, and DS-310 
>> synth
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-DS-202-synthesizer-With-Extras/323970934173 
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-DS-202-synthesizer-With-Extras/323970934173?hash=item4b6e2c259d:g:8IQAAOSw9-ldwebl>
>>
>> Seiko DS-250/DS-310 Vintage Digital Synthesizer
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-DS-250-DS-310-Vintage-Digital-Synthesizer/143312221728 
>>
>>
>> Online Demos:
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>> SEIKO キーボード カタログ 昭和58年10月
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EfEwVD814w
>>
>> Seiko DS-250 Additive Synth - "Falling Hours"
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvmxpI8LxNA
>>
>> Seiko DS-250 multitracked demo with Rhythm Ace FR-2L
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7DFiwYNVx
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>> Sincerely,
>> Stephen Watson
>> https://myspace.com/sabstractrecords/