Re: [AH] Waza Craft Dimension C for Analogue Polys

From Jason Proctor
Sent Mon, Jan 7th 2019, 19:11

i always liked the DC-2 on the VS and other polys but as others have
remarked, the lack of headroom was irritating. my guitarist bought a
DC-2w for the band and it's here now but i have not had chance to try
it - if i get a moment tonight i will record some stuffs through it
and post the results.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:29 AM mark c <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> https://za.boss.info/products/dc-2w/features/
>
> The new pedal has stereo-in and a switchable Dimension-D mode as well.
>
> Not sure how similar the C and D were that they could do this in an all a=
nalogue pedal, although they do use the wording " SDD-320 mode authenticall=
y reproduces the vintage Roland SDD-320 Dimension D" and not "...reproduces=
 the sound of the vintage..." which makes it sounds as though they have clo=
ned the circuitry and not just the feel.
>
> I'm claiming no expertise, it's just my interpretation of the wording. I'=
d presume that the D mode has better headroom for synths though.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:42 PM Mike SynMike <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> I owned the original Dimension C for years. It is notorious for having v=
ery low headroom, easy to overdrive. The overdriven sound is nasty and neve=
r in a good way.
>>
>> I think one other difference between DC-2 and CE-300 was that when using=
 the lower settings of the Dimension (like its big brother) it only applies=
 the chorus to the higher frequencies so bottom end isn't muddied or otherw=
ise effected by the chorus effect. I don't think the CE-300 does the same f=
requency filtering (but it is 30 years since I used one).
>>
>> This is what the late J=C3=BCrgen Haible, expert on the Dimension D, had=
 to say about the bigger brother:
>>
>> "Less is more =E2=80=A6
>>
>> The Roland Dimension D is the best chorus I ever heard - actually the on=
ly chorus I would use for 2-VCO-synths. It=C2=B4s best described as subtle,=
 rather than spectacular. It's quite different from the stereo chorus circu=
its Roland used in the Juno 6 or JXP-3 for instance; these produce a dramat=
ic effect and give width to the otherwise rather sterile DCOs of these synt=
hs. I tried to use such chorus circuits on my OB-8 and Prophet 5, but I did=
n't like the result. They are "too much" - at least to my ears - and rather=
 obscure the sonic quality of analogue VCO pairs.
>>
>> The Dimension D is different: It was clearly designed not to create a dr=
astical new sound, but to enhance the sound of any instrument, preserving t=
he instrument's own sonic qualities.
>> Less ??
>> The circuit of the SDD-320 is quite impressive. In no way it's just a ch=
orus with lower modulation depth or lower FX / dry mix (what I would have e=
xpected).
>> The secret of the Dimension D, as I see it, is a very clever equalizing =
of the various signal paths.
>> It has two independent BBD delay lines (true stereo), complete with comp=
anders and preemphasis / deemphasis for noise-free operation. The delayed s=
ignal is mixed in to the stereo channel it was derived from, and also cross=
-mixed to the other channel with opposite polarity. Normally this would res=
ult in a loss of lower frequencies, but the cross-mixing is filtered with a=
 low-cut (HPF), and the direct signal is slightly bass-boosted. When you sw=
itch it on, not only a delayed (and equalized) signal is added, but the dir=
ect signal is altered, too, to be "complementary" to the the delayed signal=
.
>> The result of all this is that the overall brightness and bassy-ness is =
almost not changed when FX is switched on or off."
>>
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2019, at 6:00 AM, Mark Griffiths via analogue <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx=
eal.org> wrote:
>>
>> hi, I'm considering buying one of the Boss Waza Craft Dimension C pedals=
. Most of the demos online are with guitars, I've seen a few with mono synt=
hs and only a couple with polys.
>>
>> I'm thinking of using one mostly paired with an DSI OB6 - interested in =
opinions for others who have used the Dimension C themselves. I already hav=
e a Boss CE300 super chorus which someone told me was similar - but I don't=
 think they are right - the CE300 is just a normal chorus and so you always=
 get that cycling sound which I'm not exactly fond of.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> regards, Mark
>>
>>