From Jason Proctor Sent Mon, Jan 7th 2019, 19:11
i always liked the DC-2 on the VS and other polys but as others have remarked, the lack of headroom was irritating. my guitarist bought a DC-2w for the band and it's here now but i have not had chance to try it - if i get a moment tonight i will record some stuffs through it and post the results. On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:29 AM mark c <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > https://za.boss.info/products/dc-2w/features/ > > The new pedal has stereo-in and a switchable Dimension-D mode as well. > > Not sure how similar the C and D were that they could do this in an all a= nalogue pedal, although they do use the wording " SDD-320 mode authenticall= y reproduces the vintage Roland SDD-320 Dimension D" and not "...reproduces= the sound of the vintage..." which makes it sounds as though they have clo= ned the circuitry and not just the feel. > > I'm claiming no expertise, it's just my interpretation of the wording. I'= d presume that the D mode has better headroom for synths though. > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:42 PM Mike SynMike <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> I owned the original Dimension C for years. It is notorious for having v= ery low headroom, easy to overdrive. The overdriven sound is nasty and neve= r in a good way. >> >> I think one other difference between DC-2 and CE-300 was that when using= the lower settings of the Dimension (like its big brother) it only applies= the chorus to the higher frequencies so bottom end isn't muddied or otherw= ise effected by the chorus effect. I don't think the CE-300 does the same f= requency filtering (but it is 30 years since I used one). >> >> This is what the late J=C3=BCrgen Haible, expert on the Dimension D, had= to say about the bigger brother: >> >> "Less is more =E2=80=A6 >> >> The Roland Dimension D is the best chorus I ever heard - actually the on= ly chorus I would use for 2-VCO-synths. It=C2=B4s best described as subtle,= rather than spectacular. It's quite different from the stereo chorus circu= its Roland used in the Juno 6 or JXP-3 for instance; these produce a dramat= ic effect and give width to the otherwise rather sterile DCOs of these synt= hs. I tried to use such chorus circuits on my OB-8 and Prophet 5, but I did= n't like the result. They are "too much" - at least to my ears - and rather= obscure the sonic quality of analogue VCO pairs. >> >> The Dimension D is different: It was clearly designed not to create a dr= astical new sound, but to enhance the sound of any instrument, preserving t= he instrument's own sonic qualities. >> Less ?? >> The circuit of the SDD-320 is quite impressive. In no way it's just a ch= orus with lower modulation depth or lower FX / dry mix (what I would have e= xpected). >> The secret of the Dimension D, as I see it, is a very clever equalizing = of the various signal paths. >> It has two independent BBD delay lines (true stereo), complete with comp= anders and preemphasis / deemphasis for noise-free operation. The delayed s= ignal is mixed in to the stereo channel it was derived from, and also cross= -mixed to the other channel with opposite polarity. Normally this would res= ult in a loss of lower frequencies, but the cross-mixing is filtered with a= low-cut (HPF), and the direct signal is slightly bass-boosted. When you sw= itch it on, not only a delayed (and equalized) signal is added, but the dir= ect signal is altered, too, to be "complementary" to the the delayed signal= . >> The result of all this is that the overall brightness and bassy-ness is = almost not changed when FX is switched on or off." >> >> >> Mike. >> >> On Jan 7, 2019, at 6:00 AM, Mark Griffiths via analogue <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx= eal.org> wrote: >> >> hi, I'm considering buying one of the Boss Waza Craft Dimension C pedals= . Most of the demos online are with guitars, I've seen a few with mono synt= hs and only a couple with polys. >> >> I'm thinking of using one mostly paired with an DSI OB6 - interested in = opinions for others who have used the Dimension C themselves. I already hav= e a Boss CE300 super chorus which someone told me was similar - but I don't= think they are right - the CE300 is just a normal chorus and so you always= get that cycling sound which I'm not exactly fond of. >> >> Opinions? >> >> regards, Mark >> >>