From aciddrop Sent Thu, Jan 22nd 1998, 20:35
From aciddrop Sent Thu, Jan 22nd 1998, 20:35
At 9:50 AM 1/22/98, Philip Downey wrote:
>>You are putting Kraftwerk as inovative. That's like putting L.V. Bethowen
>>(i don't even know how to spell it) as inovative. OK Black Dog is in
>>our century so it's allright. (but Kraftw..... come on).
>>You are promoting grandparents on the list and young people like
>>Simon Pykes who are the next generations of music makers, you
>>put them as LATTER category. Woow gee, thanks.
>>
>>C'mon , swich ON.
>>
>>
>>Rob's bro.
>>
...snipping the parts where he bemoans the other guy's ignorance...
>
>Kraftwerk then. Innovators. Definitely. Good. Yes. Tour de France is
>still a heart-stopper. Others on this list can comment better on them
>than I could, so I'll leave that to them. But before Kraftwerk, there
>wasn't anything recognizable as 'techno.' There was disco, prog rock, and
>W. Carlos. Came outta nowhere, friend. Not just that, it was also good.
>
...and falls right into the same trap!
Before Kraftwerk, there was folk music, bachelor-pad exotica, Motown and
the British Invasion. Rock'n'Roll as the beast it was to become was only
beginning to rear it's ugly head. Prog Rock (as in Yes, Genesis, King
Crimson) didn't come about for another couple of years, and Disco didn't
happen until, oh, 4 to 6 years (depending on how you count) after
Kraftwerk's first album. Kraftwerk's original mission was to create a
Germanic, or at least European alternative to all the blues- and folk-based
music current at the time.
And no, it didn't come out of nowhere. This gets mentioned over and over
again on this list, but Kraftwerk was merely continuing on a path already
well-trodden by Stockhausen, Satie and other classical pioneers, and was
part of a large movement which also included Tangerine Dream, Can, Van Der
Graaf Generator, and a bunch of other wonky stuff you sometimes find in
used bins in the better hippie stores. It was only in the early 80's that
Kraftwerk looked around them, and discovered that young black kids in the
ghetto (horrors!) had become their true offspring, and incorporated these
kids' bastardizations into their own music. Hence, Tour De France.
Home is where the stereo is!
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