Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music?

From Mat Ranson
Sent Fri, Jun 30th 2006, 23:46

I seriously don't mean to be rude, but I don't understand what you  
wrote there...

Mat

On 30 Jun 2006, at 23:35, Exegene wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Boris Klompus wrote:
> *snip*
>> governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately  
>> revolutionary in
>> the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much  
>> different
>> than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to  
>> experimental music of
> *snip*
>
> Indeed.
>
> There are some wrong actions occuring. There are also some objects  
> that seem to be connected with those actions. Insofar as those  
> wrongs can be said to be sourced in those objects, representative  
> of those object-wrong connections may be all that which results in  
> a population's predispositions, or targets of acquisition. A  
> population's actions will often result in a wrong-connected  
> object's increase in currency, this result fostered through what  
> are wrong actions.
>
> Microsound potentially obstructs some mechanisms of  
> predispositioning a population by allowing it to have positive  
> voice and shut ears in what would otherwise be uncritical  
> consumption. This is not unique to microsound of course, the same  
> being found in any case where there is a local popular art, or in  
> the case of a sufficiently isolated community, simply a close knit.  
> Microsound does offer the opportunity to question, even question  
> the existence of, those implacable traditions and relations  
> litterin everywhere, but it's hard, really hard, to om mani padme  
> hum one's way into defying gravity, especially when finally it's  
> the weekend and I can relax from the work week, tonight maybe I'll  
> boil potatoes, and....
>
> At least, anyone listening to or making microsound is someone not  
> for that time buying flavor of the moment or selling it to friends.
>
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Boris Klompus wrote:
*snip*
> governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately revolutionary in
> the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much different
> than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to experimental music of
*snip*

Indeed.

There are some wrong actions occuring. There are also some objects that 
seem to be connected with those actions. Insofar as those wrongs can be 
said to be sourced in those objects, representative of those object-wrong 
connections may be all that which results in a population's 
predispositions, or targets of acquisition. A population's actions will 
often result in a wrong-connected object's increase in currency, this 
result fostered through what are wrong actions.

Microsound potentially obstructs some mechanisms of predispositioning a 
population by allowing it to have positive voice and shut ears in what 
would otherwise be uncritical consumption. This is not unique to 
microsound of course, the same being found in any case where there is a 
local popular art, or in the case of a sufficiently isolated community, 
simply a close knit. Microsound does offer the opportunity to question, 
even question the existence of, those implacable traditions and relations 
litterin everywhere, but it's hard, really hard, to om mani padme hum 
one's way into defying gravity, especially when finally it's the weekend 
and I can relax from the work week, tonight maybe I'll boil potatoes, 
and....

At least, anyone listening to or making microsound is someone not for 
that time buying flavor of the moment or selling it to friends.

-- 
Dear Patron Saint,
your lips are lopsided
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I agree with much of what has been said, particularly by Mat, Greg,
and to an extent, Jon.  Perhaps we've covered the revolutionary
aspects implicit in the form, and I do believe that there is merit in
that, albeit severely limited in horizontal scope once you step out of
the box.

So let's consider craft again: many of the pioneering electronic
artists of the 1960s and 1970s (from what I understand) were very much
into fashioning their own electronic equipment for their sound and
music pieces.  I see a direct correlation between their activities and
those working with Pd (a considerably broader base).  Insofar as new
communities proliferate around open ideals and together manage the
tangles that come along with them, this is political.  This extends
not only to the more tangible manifestations of alternative processes
and means of information flow, but also to the idea of taking
near-complete control and responsibility for your own processes and
creations, something microsound can lend itself to quite well in my
opinion.

But the struggle, if one wishes to carry it a step further and engage
with those who are not in the "niche", is to not only become excellent
craftspeople but to simultaneously  become excellent communicators.
This is what I see as the vague, hazy tension between craft and art.
Insofar as work is able, beyond fashion and commodification (these
ought to be resisted because they are the death of ideas) to engage a
segment of the population beyond the "niche", I feel quite good about
what is happening on that front.

Kevin

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> In response to the naysayers...my original question was a genuine one in the
> sense that, as a relative new member, I was curious to what extent people
> thought of their work having such an impact. My own feeling is that social
> change, say, is probably more enabled through the technology of microsound
> than the art. In other words,  the global, collaborative approach to music
> making found here is a symptom of possibilities enabled by current
> communication technology. And that is allowing new social patterns and
> groupings to evolve. (I prefer evolution to revolution too).
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Its good to see how little consensus there is on this mailing list; those 
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In response to the naysayers...my original question was a genuine one in the 
sense that, as a relative new member, I was curious to what extent people 
thought of their work having such an impact. My own feeling is that social 
change, say, is probably more enabled through the technology of microsound 
than the art. In other words,  the global, collaborative approach to music 
making found here is a symptom of possibilities enabled by current 
communication technology. And that is allowing new social patterns and 
groupings to evolve. (I prefer evolution to revolution too).

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I release on cassette and on cdr.

the cassettes are 2x 20 minutes,and that's just enough.
the cdr release i try to restrict to 35 minutes at the most.
but a cdr is a cdr right?
so you can put lots of extra's
short video, pictures and text
and even some software, if you like.

greetings,

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I would still have to disagree. The proliferation of (niche)  
knowledge is one of the great tools of the internet. And  
sociologically you and I are a part of the Microsound society because  
of this very list.

However, if you mean that the heavy technological approach is the  
cause of socio/political implications of Microsound music, then we  
may as well include everything else which involves computers and  
Western World technologies, relatively speaking.

In any case we're back to the beginning: there are very few socio/ 
political implications of Microsound music, and those that exist bear  
no meaning on the music itself to have a measurable effect.

And yes it could  be considered avant garde. Whatever the current  
definition of that might be.

Mat



On 30 Jun 2006, at 00:43, Jon wrote:

> Mat:  Fair point -- and no book quoted! -- but it's less about the  
> equipment (that was a lesser point) and more about the section of  
> society who are given to developing knowledge and understanding of  
> things like Microsound -- in other words, I think it's privileged  
> knowledge, and that's reflected by the fact that it's a) a heavily  
> technological approach and b) avant garde.
>
>
>>>
>>> Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with
>>> it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap
>>> second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the  
>>> budget
>>> of most 'revolutionaries'.
>>>
>>> Mat
>
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Is this why parents were worried about their kids 'automatically' 
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>>the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward
love and big worry in them, all the time.

point taken, although one might say that it is common sense to know that 'we
are all crazy or we wouldn't be here'... song is the escape... the caged
bird sings a more beautiful song.

best,

mark


On 6/29/06, tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >>a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more
> >>and more complicated and out of balance.
>
> the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward
> love and big worry in them, all the time.
>
> in fact, no escape.  maybe that is the key. no humanism to the rescue.
> just pathos, time, rhythm, body and soul.
> sometimes joy -- chicago blues particularly in relation to movement (the
> one area which was truly a freedom
> for black people post-slavery was the ability to get on a train and go)...
>
> so a kind of specific
> expressivity is opened in the horizon of the sound...
>
> which revolved around a pretty consistent structure
> of sound... always recognizable. a form that was like a horizon that the
> blues player, blues man could work off/work within
>
> and formally was *not* especially tied to the Great path of Progress in
> the way that the
> history of jazz was/is or modern music, etc. etc.(i.e. it would be unusual
> to speak of
> cutting edge or avant garde blues).
>
> this *non-belief* or indifference to the supposed nearly Categorical
> Imperative of (formal, at least!) Progress (the big ModernProgress story we
> have been socialized to believe in grade school, etc. -> social darwnism,
> social evolution, technology, etc. etc.)
> is to some extent a precursor to the kind of glitch/dis-joints that
> frequent aesthetics of failure...
>
> but no matter...(or.. ghosts in the machine...perhaps blues is one of the
> ghosts in microsounds machine?)
> anyhow...
> -a
>
>
>
>
>
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Mat:  Fair point -- and no book quoted! -- but it's less about the  
equipment (that was a lesser point) and more about the section of  
society who are given to developing knowledge and understanding of  
things like Microsound -- in other words, I think it's privileged  
knowledge, and that's reflected by the fact that it's a) a heavily  
technological approach and b) avant garde.


>>
>> Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with
>> it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap
>> second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget
>> of most 'revolutionaries'.
>>
>> Mat

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i agree with boris-

it is that reformation of the fundamental structures or the formal
reorganization of the medium in that our perceptions are changed- then we
can "see" differently- we aren't aware of these things until we have been
shown that they exist and develop a subsequent vocabulary to recognize
them - that is one thing that art can do for us and how art becomes
socially/politically important- the difficult part is not to get someone
to recognize new structures but to make them meaningful and relevant
enough that carry over from performance/ exhibition to real life

> I was in a politics of music class last semester, and at the end
everyone
> in
> the class had to present a politically charged piece of music (or
artist).
> Instead of picking a piece of politically charged music a la Bob Dylan,
or
> something, I chose microsound. I don't believe that it has a political
standing or charge in traditional ways, in that it speaks out about
governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately
revolutionary
> in
> the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much different
> than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to experimental
music
> of
> the mid 1900s, which was also revolutionary, and therefore political. I
think any time conventions are broken, and risks are taken, making the
music experimental, it can be, and is revolutionary.
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>>a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more 
>>and more complicated and out of balance. 

the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward love and big worry in them, all the time. 

in fact, no escape.  maybe that is the key. no humanism to the rescue. just pathos, time, rhythm, body and soul.
sometimes joy -- chicago blues particularly in relation to movement (the one area which was truly a freedom
for black people post-slavery was the ability to get on a train and go)...

so a kind of specific 
expressivity is opened in the horizon of the sound...

which revolved around a pretty consistent structure
of sound... always recognizable. a form that was like a horizon that the 
blues player, blues man could work off/work within  

and formally was *not* especially tied to the Great path of Progress in the way that the
history of jazz was/is or modern music, etc. etc.(i.e. it would be unusual to speak of 
cutting edge or avant garde blues). 

this *non-belief* or indifference to the supposed nearly Categorical Imperative of (formal, at least!) Progress (the big ModernProgress story we have been socialized to believe in grade school, etc. -> social darwnism, social evolution, technology, etc. etc.)
is to some extent a precursor to the kind of glitch/dis-joints that frequent aesthetics of failure...

but no matter...(or.. ghosts in the machine...perhaps blues is one of the ghosts in microsounds machine?) 
anyhow...
-a






                 
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I was in a politics of music class last semester, and at the end everyone in
the class had to present a politically charged piece of music (or artist).
Instead of picking a piece of politically charged music a la Bob Dylan, or
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I think any time conventions are broken, and risks are taken, making the
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I wonder about peoples experiences with microsound in their own lives?  Does
everyone feel that the descisions/directions/perspectives you have taken
have been influenced by your interaction as a listener or as an artists?
How so?  Means of production and distribution are an important part of the
discourse on art but they are far from the only socio-political aspects of
creation.
-mike
www.michaelsamos.com

On 6/29/06, Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with
> it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap
> second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget
> of most 'revolutionaries'.
>
> Mat
>
>
>
> On 29 Jun 2006, at 14:21, Jon wrote:
>
> > Dear PBJ,
> >
> > No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound
> > social/political implications implicit within the form.  To an
> > extent I'd say this is true of all modern music styles.  Especially
> > nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive
> > practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art.
> >
> > I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me)
> > that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda,
> > that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a
> > privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the
> > form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom
> > could be seen as 'revolutionaries'.  The truth is that artistic
> > radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in
> > political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art -
> > especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is
> > predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by
> > people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers).  As far as I
> > know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown
> > wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning
> > to artworks which have really little to do with any of it.  And of
> > course, 100% personal opinion.
> >
> >
> > $0.02 ...
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Dear m'sounders
> >>
> >> Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if
> >> anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit
> >> sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example,
> >> the way that lots of experimental music in the 60's was interested
> >> in non-hierarchical social and political structures which was
> >> reflected in the way that music was composed, created and consumed.
> >>
> >> Discuss!
> >>
> >> PBJ
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Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with  
it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap  
second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget  
of most 'revolutionaries'.

Mat



On 29 Jun 2006, at 14:21, Jon wrote:

> Dear PBJ,
>
> No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound  
> social/political implications implicit within the form.  To an  
> extent I'd say this is true of all modern music styles.  Especially  
> nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive  
> practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art.
>
> I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me)  
> that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda,  
> that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a  
> privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the  
> form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom  
> could be seen as 'revolutionaries'.  The truth is that artistic  
> radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in  
> political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art -  
> especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is  
> predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by  
> people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers).  As far as I  
> know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown  
> wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning  
> to artworks which have really little to do with any of it.  And of  
> course, 100% personal opinion.
>
>
> $0.02 ...
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Dear m'sounders
>>
>> Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if  
>> anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit  
>> sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example,  
>> the way that lots of experimental music in the 60's was interested  
>> in non-hierarchical social and political structures which was  
>> reflected in the way that music was composed, created and consumed.
>>
>> Discuss!
>>
>> PBJ
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
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here are some texts that address this topic:


Jacques Attali's Noise: The Political Economy of Music (1985) addresses
this topic directly- it challenges us to consider the social impact of our
work and discusses the possibility for significant social change through
music and the conditions that could give rise to such cultural tropes


I also suggest Guy DeBord's Society of the Spectacle and other
Situationist works (from the late 60's ) about how information and
expression are trafficked in the broader culture and describes some of the
pitfalls that can threaten the integrity of art in a consumer culture

http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/debord/
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Obituary/debord.html


other noteworthy texts to consider for this topic in a broader context are
Umberto Eco's "Travels in Hyperreality" and "Kant and the Platypus"

"Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape
it."
Bertolt Brecht (1898-1956),



greg pond


http://da73.com/



> I believe that art promotes social/political change through the changing of
> individual sensibilities.
>
> Therefore the new musical aesthehic that microsound/digital music
proposes
> will definitly determine social change. How? When? That´s ask to much of
a
> simple guy like me, that works to put sounds and words together.
>
> Be patient. In twenty or thirty years the change will be obvious.
>
> Beni.
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>> Dear m'sounders
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experimental
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>> structures which was reflected in the way that music was composed, created
>> and consumed.
>> Discuss!
>> PBJ
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Dear PBJ,

No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound  
social/political implications implicit within the form.  To an extent  
I'd say this is true of all modern music styles.  Especially  
nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive  
practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art.

I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me)  
that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda,  
that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a  
privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the  
form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom  
could be seen as 'revolutionaries'.  The truth is that artistic  
radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in  
political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art -  
especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is  
predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by  
people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers).  As far as I  
know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets.

Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown  
wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning to  
artworks which have really little to do with any of it.  And of  
course, 100% personal opinion.


$0.02 ...
Jon







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> aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, the way that lots  
> of experimental music in the 60's was interested in non- 
> hierarchical social and political structures which was reflected in  
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>
> Discuss!
>
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How long should a 'digital' album be? As long as it takes to get your ideas across. Personally, I'd rather listen to a short lp with a few really good ideas, than a 70min cd or mp3 lps that are composed of a lot of filler. A really good compilation goes a long way for me these days. Very few artists have gone past the 2hr mark with much success, which doesnt mean it shouldnt be done. The 'digital' format, or more to the point, the 'digital' distribution network frees up time constraints, but might put more of a demand on the artist to produce something worth listening to.

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 I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out 
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i've got the same weird problem, that's why i've posted the same thing 
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I believe that art promotes social/political change through the changing of 
individual sensibilities.

Therefore the new musical aesthehic that microsound/digital music proposes 
will definitly determine social change. How? When? That´s ask to much of a 
simple guy like me, that works to put sounds and words together.

Be patient. In twenty or thirty years the change will be obvious.

Beni.

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> i have my best listening experiences on headphones
> when i'm out walking.

video maker friend of mine described listening to an
alva noto cd riding bike through berlin and how the
music blended so well with the outside sounds. some
ideas: the music that interests me most is
combinatoric in this way. is romantic music is the
music that seeks to be separate from the world or
closing it out? but who would fault us for making
otherwordly sound? (if only that were possible...)


 


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rui-do wrote:

"Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air."

nice one; and this opens another classic topic:

"Silence is violent."

i think i'm going to start crying. ;)


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> But sometimes distractions play an important role.
> And not only distractions, but all that is around and interpheres , all
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> Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air.
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> > i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking.
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you're right i have mixed my states
subtract joe sabella as i know he moved close
to mr deane to play music with him.
jeph is in arizona however.
he moved there from seattle.
robert
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>i am reasonably certain j.a. deanne lives in santa fe,
> new mexico. so the population of arizona has been cut
> by a fifth so far. i thought jeph moved to
> seattle...(that was SCG rather)? but that's okay: the
> best thing about the southwest is the wide open
> space...
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> --- roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>> far as i know only 5 people live in arizona
>> jeph jarmen
>> joe sabella
>> j a deane
>> ed hardy
>> mike quinn
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>> robert
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>> > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any
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>> > involved with the arizona electronic music
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>> > thanks in advance
>> > neil..
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But sometimes distractions play an important role.
And not only distractions, but all that is around and interpheres , all
intrusive sounds from urban landscapes and modern architecture can be no
longer detached from our sense of listening and understanding sound.
Take a look at the recent cd from eric la casa on Sirr called "air.ratio"
where he investigates almost scientifically the air noises produced in
public buildings. I am very sensitive to ventilation systems but most people
lack awareness on this.

Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air.

> 
> i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking.
> there's nothing else to distract me. that's one of the main reasons i walk
> to walk at the moment.



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cHristian negre i walczak wrote:

> we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i
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i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking. 
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> > I am looking for recent electronic sonic-art, electroacoutic music.
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> > Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things?
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Renato Fabbri wrote:
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> Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things?

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i am reasonably certain j.a. deanne lives in santa fe,
new mexico. so the population of arizona has been cut
by a fifth so far. i thought jeph moved to
seattle...(that was SCG rather)? but that's okay: the
best thing about the southwest is the wide open
space...

--- roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> far as i know only 5 people live in arizona
> jeph jarmen
> joe sabella
> j a deane
> ed hardy
> mike quinn
> 
> robert
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> >
> > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any
> contacts for people 
> > involved with the arizona electronic music
> community?
> > thanks in advance
> > neil..
> >
> > ============================
> > www.phoniq.net
> > releases available on:
> > www.noisefactoryrecords.com
> > publication:
> > www.vagueterrain.net
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Well I think I agree with the consensus that a project should be as long (or 
short) as it needs to be. I think the "digital" realm can allow this but I 
wonder what culture shift it will take for people to consume/listen to 
variable length projects. I still feel comfortable with the 45-60 minute 
thing, even when I "harvest" my physical media. Which, after this 
discussion, I'm starting to feel guilty about...I wonder if it like those 
awful "Best of Relaxing Classics" Cd's where a more acceptable sub-section 
of a piece is taken out of context. It is po-mo or just plain lazy!

I like the work in progress idea too - do you think that means things will 
be released in seperate versions? So you can download "MyTrack.mp3" v1.1 or 
v2.1 or something? Or will the work "evolve" into different versions and 
reworkings (like dub works)?

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Hi Owen,

yes, that's what i was looking for. many thanks for the pointer!

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> Hi eretsua,
>
> The MPEG-4 lossless codec claims to handle 32-bit (including floating 
> point, which I guess is what you're after?). I've not tried it.
>
> http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/forschung/projekte/lossless/mp4als.html
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> There's a download for the reference implementation near the bottom of the 
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> hth,
> Owen
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>>
>> is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC 
>> only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. 
>> :(
>> i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( thanks,
>> eretsua.
>>
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Hi,

I am looking for recent electronic sonic-art, electroacoutic music.

Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things?

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Ooh, I love this discussion. I've put a lot of thought
in the last couple years about the art of album
creation and how it's different from the art of song
creation and performing live shows. 

My personal tastes are that I like to listen to an
artist or group in blocks of 40 to 65 minutes if the
music is good. That's not an on purpose thing, I just
find if it's longer I tend to change the cd, and if
it's shorter I find myself wanting to hear more
(except in the case of very saturdated/sonically dense
albums). In fact, one of the reasons I haven't gone
back to listening to vinyl is that I don't want to
flip a record every 20 minutes. 

Speaking of which, I wonder if the length of time that
vinyl has the form of media has an effect on our
current attention spans. With vinyl, if you had more
than 22 minutes on a side, you'd lose audio quality,
so it was rare that records were longer than 45
minutes. As we moved to longer formats, album lengths
gradually increased to now an average of about 60
minutes. 

My listening habits haven't really changed with the
transition from physical media to digital. Even when
I'm listening to streaming radio I tend to change the
station every 60 minutes or so. Sometimes if an artist
has an ep for download, I won't burn it to cd until I
have another ep to pair it with. 

As far as creating a project goes, my advice would be
to pay attention to your own listening habits and
those of others when you hear it. If you find yourself
losing patience during a song or using the cue button
to get to "the cool part", that's a sign it could be
shortened. 

When determining the song order for a project, I
usually try to figure out a few songs that sound like
"early", "middle" and "end" songs, then put the others
in an order that flows well. I sometimes wind up using
songs that I was originally lukewarm about, just
because they fit so well with others. And I wind up
not using tracks that I'm really happy with, because
they'd have to be forced in. 

Back to shorter formats - I think that current top 40
music is a very singles-oriented music being forced
into an album format, which results in a lot of
mediocre "filler" tracks on the album. Lately, both
the digital distribution model and the (r)emergence of
compilations and mixtapes have been steering those
fans away from albums. 

Matt

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arizona sounds hot !   i checked this link.   looks
like alot of people putting out lo-fi music.   that is
awesome.   i'de like to see more about this stuff. 
and  or anyone playing in austin ?  

 >b<
garcia

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not familiar w/c/a/t, but hey, it works, more power to 'em. arizona  
can use all the scene it can get.

- darren b

> I don't live there, but if C/A/T live @ Sadisco can get well over a  
> hundred people, I think that means there's an electronic music  
> scene in Arizona.
> Or are you omitting the non-mainstream forms?
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>> i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson)  
>> for about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most  
>> part  there is *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there -  
>> never has  been. whatever retail element existed is about washed  
>> up from what  i've been told (zia records has become worthless, so  
>> has tower;  there's still stinkweeds but they don't truck in much  
>> of anything  electronic).

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my friend adam mokan lives in chandler arizona, has been playing some local
shows at places like the trunkspace... he is not really microsound, but does
build his own synths and is quite a smart feller...
http://adammokan.russolo.com/
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I don't live there, but if C/A/T live @ Sadisco can get well over a hundred 
people, I think that means there's an electronic music scene in Arizona.
Or are you omitting the non-mainstream forms?

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> i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson) for 
> about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most part  there is 
> *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there - never has  been. whatever 
> retail element existed is about washed up from what  i've been told (zia 
> records has become worthless, so has tower;  there's still stinkweeds but 
> they don't truck in much of anything  electronic).
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Funny this topic should come up.. Amongst other things I've been pouring
through the old Lomax recording lately and just wrote a little historical
piece on Howlin Wolf.  I also recently picked up a disc on Sub Rosa of
Tibetan folk songs many of which have a very close aesthetic relationship to
American Blues.  The microtonal slide playing we hear in southern blues
seems to be related to some of the microtonal music from India and the
middle eastern countries.  Presently, many folks inclined to study
ethnomusicology are exploring the idea of blues as a universal language.
There does seem to be something intrinsic to the blues in a way that
transcends time and space.  This isn't to negate the historical importance
of the blues.  To a large degree, I agree with Mark's evaluation of the
blues in terms of socio-economics.  It might be worth mentioning that for
many folks, playing the blues, or the popular folk music of their local, was
often a way to get out of some dangerous form of work.  Musicians were some
of the few folk that didn't have to work in the mines and the decision was
clear for a great many people.  I think that the structural simplicity of
the music is one of its greatest advantages.  It allows for a more
democratic music and allows for creativity on a level that music that relies
on instrumental virtuosity often lacks.  The blues are very easy to mimic
but very hard to play.  Many of what are now conventions of modal blues
required a great imagination on the part of the musicians playing it. The
manipulation of sounds using creative recording methods and the newly
available amplifier technology is simply stunning.

-mike
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On 6/27/06, Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> That, or because its just really easy music to play.
>
> On 27 Jun 2006, at 11:32, Mark R. wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of
> > capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were
> > shaping the
> > United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues
> > was a
> > call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic
> > society. It
> > wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted
> > to feel.
> > The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren
> > intensified
> > these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it
> > come
> > out.
> >
> > You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time
> > sometimes had
> > prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches
> > claim it
> > was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those
> > times was
> > like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that
> > recall the
> > histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in
> > many parts
> > of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of
> > knowledge of
> > the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more
> > like a
> > force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge.
> >
> > I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is
> > basic, and
> > a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming
> > more and
> > more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a
> > connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process
> > except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw
> > emotion in
> > the moment.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mark Ragsdale
>
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well, on the ambient/electronic end of things you also still have:

- steve roach (tucson)
- jeff greinke (also tucson)

i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson) for  
about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most part  
there is *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there - never has  
been. whatever retail element existed is about washed up from what  
i've been told (zia records has become worthless, so has tower;  
there's still stinkweeds but they don't truck in much of anything  
electronic).

the small experimental scene (*very* small) in phoenix used to  
congregate around a tiny but excellent shop/performance space called  
metropophobobia (that's not a typo) that, like in most cities, was  
squeezed out because of skyrocketing rents & upwardly-mobile  
neighborhood changes. the place was run by peter ragan (who, with  
david oliphant, used to comprise 1/2 of the superb improv/ 
experimental/electronic troupe life garden - check out their cds from  
the early 90s). peter did occasionally host a number of then 'leading  
lights' on the electronic spectrum (greinke, thomas dimuzio), and the  
space's rep was touted from groups such as s.f.'s survival research  
laboratories & crash worship a.d.v.r., but once peter was forced to  
vacate, whatever little notoriety the spot fomented immediately dried  
up. mr. ragan & co. have long since stopped performing/recording as  
well (peter & david, where are you? if you're reading this, give us a  
holler!).

- darren bergstein
e/i magazine

> far as i know only 5 people live in arizona
> jeph jarmen
> joe sabella
> j a deane
> ed hardy
> mike quinn
>
> robert
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>> Hey does any one on this list happen to have any contacts for  
>> people involved with the arizona electronic music community?  
>> thanks in advance
>> neil..

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far as i know only 5 people live in arizona
jeph jarmen
joe sabella
j a deane
ed hardy
mike quinn

robert

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and by months I meant years on the zeena + ikue disc


On 6/27/06, Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> I really think it depends specifically on the music.  I've been listening
> intently to Todd Dockstader's Aerial 1 & 2 and I'm eagerly awaiting number
> 3.  I have no problem with listening for over 200 minutes if the music
> warrants that type of listening.  Having said that, I often like to listen
> in "chunks" of 5-15 min and then repeat the listening.
>
> Last weekend, I was recording an album for a rock band in Boston I am
> friends with and they mentioned to me that they prefer to play 25 minutes
> sets.  People come up to them and tell them: "that was great! why didn't you
> play longer?"  They feel it is a better response than people standing around
> with their arms crossed after 45 minutes of non stop playing.  I think there
> is a degree to which this applies to albums too.  Filler is definitely a bad
> thing.  I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out a few
> months ago (somewhere in the mid 30min range if I remember right) and I am
> left wanting more.  I like feeling that desire.
>
> -mike
> www.michaelsamos.com
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>
> On 6/26/06, xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx < xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> > This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent
> > more than isolated moments "thinking" about.
> >
> > I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing
> > ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have
> > already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of
> > filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that
> > end all too soon for my ears.
> >
> > I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single)
> > is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no
> > matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour
> > CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit
> >
> > too.
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I really think it depends specifically on the music.  I've been listening
intently to Todd Dockstader's Aerial 1 & 2 and I'm eagerly awaiting number
3.  I have no problem with listening for over 200 minutes if the music
warrants that type of listening.  Having said that, I often like to listen
in "chunks" of 5-15 min and then repeat the listening.

Last weekend, I was recording an album for a rock band in Boston I am
friends with and they mentioned to me that they prefer to play 25 minutes
sets.  People come up to them and tell them: "that was great! why didn't you
play longer?"  They feel it is a better response than people standing around
with their arms crossed after 45 minutes of non stop playing.  I think there
is a degree to which this applies to albums too.  Filler is definitely a bad
thing.  I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out a few
months ago (somewhere in the mid 30min range if I remember right) and I am
left wanting more.  I like feeling that desire.

-mike
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> This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent
> more than isolated moments "thinking" about.
>
> I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing
> ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have
> already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of
> filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that
> end all too soon for my ears.
>
> I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single)
> is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no
> matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour
> CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit
> too.
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That, or because its just really easy music to play.

On 27 Jun 2006, at 11:32, Mark R. wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of
> capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were  
> shaping the
> United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues  
> was a
> call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic  
> society. It
> wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted  
> to feel.
> The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren  
> intensified
> these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it  
> come
> out.
>
> You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time  
> sometimes had
> prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches  
> claim it
> was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those  
> times was
> like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that  
> recall the
> histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in  
> many parts
> of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of  
> knowledge of
> the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more  
> like a
> force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge.
>
> I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is  
> basic, and
> a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming  
> more and
> more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a
> connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process
> except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw  
> emotion in
> the moment.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark Ragsdale



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hi

On 6/27/06, cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise
> which life is short according to the way i see mine go by.

> ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious?

multi-dimentional! [all]


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Hello Johnny

I live in Buenos Aires and im a musician. I can be your guide here, no 
problem,  there are a lot of interesting art & music events.
If you want, contact me via msn:
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Best regards.

Enrique


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> Hello
>
> Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, 
> galleries -
> or even shops in Buenos Aires?  I'll be there for three weeks from 9 July.
>
> Johnny
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ops, and all that doesn't mean my mind hasn't been blown many times while
listening to music. that's the romance. the emotion between the music and
the listener. as mr duchamp sentenced more than a hundred years ago. a work
of art adquires its total definition when it has been adapted by the
spectator.



On 6/27/06, cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> i wrote:
>
> "i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
> listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
> feeling towards music."
>
> we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i
> do. things happen so quick.
>
> that romantic feeling was related to the fact of keeping something (in
> this case, the music). I said to myself, what's the point of keeping stuff
> 'm not going to listen to? every now and then (maybe once a year) my stock
> gets filtered. just few kilobytes remain. space is expensive, and time even
> more. hosting physical data at my place means rejecting space for my
> children to play. totally eaten by materialism some may say.
>
> that romantic feeling was stated because of the satisfaction of owning a
> piece of art. satisfaction which i rejected.
>
> specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise
> which life is short according to the way i see mine go by. i have many times
> tried to go back and listen to what many big names in the history of music
> have defined as 'most significant' and most of the times haven't been
> further than boredom.
>
> ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious?
>
> whatever but sincere.
>
> have a nice day.
>
> btw: cHristian negre is the nick my parents decided. ;)
>
>
>
> On 6/27/06, Revolution #9 <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote:
> >
> > I think this could be a nice topic for this list...
> > yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts
> > "that's why i don't care much about the romantic
> > feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any
> > deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's
> > position, intention, historical developments and objectives...
> >
> > but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned
> > microsounders tend to be very 'romantic' in their works;
> > Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost
> > whole Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster...
> >
> > "romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the
> > heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of
> > development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the
> > "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)...
> > and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday
> > meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at
> > that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost
> > whole drone music repertoire)....
> >
> > it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people
> > on this list...
> > overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in
> > experimental and advanced music ?",
> > a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its
> > importance to these days....
> >
> > how the rest of the people see this ?...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ===========================
> >                  Die Kunst ist tot
> > Es lebe die neue Maschinenkunst Tatlins
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> >
> >
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i wrote:

"i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
feeling towards music."

we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i
do. things happen so quick.

that romantic feeling was related to the fact of keeping something (in this
case, the music). I said to myself, what's the point of keeping stuff 'm not
going to listen to? every now and then (maybe once a year) my stock gets
filtered. just few kilobytes remain. space is expensive, and time even more.
hosting physical data at my place means rejecting space for my children to
play. totally eaten by materialism some may say.

that romantic feeling was stated because of the satisfaction of owning a
piece of art. satisfaction which i rejected.

specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise
which life is short according to the way i see mine go by. i have many times
tried to go back and listen to what many big names in the history of music
have defined as 'most significant' and most of the times haven't been
further than boredom.

ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious?

whatever but sincere.

have a nice day.

btw: cHristian negre is the nick my parents decided. ;)


On 6/27/06, Revolution #9 <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> I think this could be a nice topic for this list...
> yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts "that's
> why i don't care much about the romantic
> feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any
> deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's
> position, intention, historical developments and objectives...
>
> but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned microsounders
> tend to be very 'romantic' in their works;
> Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost whole
> Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster...
>
> "romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the
> heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of
> development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the
> "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)...
> and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday
> meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at
> that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost
> whole drone music repertoire)....
>
> it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people on
> this list...
> overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in experimental
> and advanced music ?",
> a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its
> importance to these days....
>
> how the rest of the people see this ?...
>
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>
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>
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Hi All,

I posted this earlier, so apologies if this same message is coming through
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On 6/27/06, Mark R. <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jeff,
>
> Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of
> capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were shaping the
> United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues was a
> call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic society. It
> wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted to feel.
> The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren intensified
> these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it come
> out.
>
> You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time sometimes
> had prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches claim
> it was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those times
> was like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that recall the
> histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in many parts
> of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of knowledge of
> the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more like a
> force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge.
>
> I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is basic,
> and a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more and
> more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a
> connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process
> except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw emotion in
> the moment.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark Ragsdale
>
>
>
> On 6/27/06, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > wrote:
> >
> >
> > microsounders and steven,
> >
> > the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st
> > Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at
> > www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released
> > on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in
> > the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me
> > by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with
> > ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but
> > interesting:
> >
> > "...the blues were literally made by the recording
> > process...For the Bluesman the long road from
> > plantation to obscurity to international fame was
> > first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and
> > albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have
> > meausured their days on earth in exactly this way,
> > between records." --Bruce Russell
> >
> > the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists,
> > post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we
> > have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont
> > neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step
> > backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step
> > backward in the history of blues (while his recording
> > of his "recording" takes one step forward into
> > dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me)
> > begs the question: if the blues was entertainment
> > industry music then what of prison songs? what of
> > remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is
> > there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the
> > feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording
> > only? were there no fields for the field
> > hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp?
> >
> > in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to
> > boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a
> > comment on the use of history). he has a choice when
> > to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history"
> > (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the
> > original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and
> > off. is it the comment on the recording process that
> > itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question
> > that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound
> > itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or
> > with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a
> > data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available
> > to you in the turntable or tape-machine?
> >
> > i'd like to hear some comments on this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > j.ff gbk
> >
> > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/
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Hi eretsua,

The MPEG-4 lossless codec claims to handle 32-bit (including floating 
point, which I guess is what you're after?). I've not tried it.

http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/forschung/projekte/lossless/mp4als.html

There's a download for the reference implementation near the bottom of 
the page.

hth,
Owen

eretsua wrote:
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> 
> is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. :(
> i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( 
> 
> thanks,
> eretsua.
> 
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Hi,

is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. :(
i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( 

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Johny take note of this:
Clubs:

*Club Minimo* (minimal to experimental ):

Every Friday - Doors open at 12 pm
CLUB MINIMO @ NICETO CLUB Lado B
Niceto Vega & Humbolt , Cdad. A. Buenos Aires, Argentina.

and

*+160 *(from IDM to Drum and Bass ):

Every Thuesday Doors open at 11pm till 4,30 am.
Lavalle 345, Cdad. A. Buenos Aires, Argentina.
http://www.mas160.com/

for restaurant, bar , indumentary , art and cool stuff.

http://www.palermohollywood.net/
http://www.palermosoho.net/

Record Store:
Plasma
http://www.plasmarecordssitio.com/


Johnny Dixon wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, 
> galleries -
> or even shops in Buenos Aires?  I'll be there for three weeks from 9 
> July.
>
> Johnny
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I think this could be a nice topic for this list...
yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts "that's why i don't care much about the romantic
feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's position, intention, historical developments and objectives...

but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned microsounders tend to be very 'romantic' in their works; 
Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost whole Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster...

"romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)...
and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost whole drone music repertoire)....

it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people on this list...
overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in experimental and advanced music ?", 
a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its importance to these days....

how the rest of the people see this ?...



 





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Hello

Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, galleries -
or even shops in Buenos Aires?  I'll be there for three weeks from 9 July.

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Hi Jeff,

Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of
capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were shaping the
United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues was a
call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic society. It
wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted to feel.
The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren intensified
these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it come
out.

You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time sometimes had
prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches claim it
was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those times was
like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that recall the
histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in many parts
of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of knowledge of
the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more like a
force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge.

I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is basic, and
a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more and
more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a
connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process
except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw emotion in
the moment.

Best,

Mark Ragsdale



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>
>
> microsounders and steven,
>
> the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st
> Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at
> www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released
> on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in
> the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me
> by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with
> ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but
> interesting:
>
> "...the blues were literally made by the recording
> process...For the Bluesman the long road from
> plantation to obscurity to international fame was
> first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and
> albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have
> meausured their days on earth in exactly this way,
> between records." --Bruce Russell
>
> the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists,
> post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we
> have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont
> neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step
> backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step
> backward in the history of blues (while his recording
> of his "recording" takes one step forward into
> dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me)
> begs the question: if the blues was entertainment
> industry music then what of prison songs? what of
> remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is
> there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the
> feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording
> only? were there no fields for the field
> hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp?
>
> in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to
> boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a
> comment on the use of history). he has a choice when
> to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history"
> (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the
> original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and
> off. is it the comment on the recording process that
> itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question
> that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound
> itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or
> with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a
> data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available
> to you in the turntable or tape-machine?
>
> i'd like to hear some comments on this.
>
>
>
>
> j.ff gbk
>
> http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/
>
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microsounders and steven,

the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st
Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at
www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released
on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in
the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me
by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with
ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but
interesting:

"...the blues were literally made by the recording
process...For the Bluesman the long road from
plantation to obscurity to international fame was
first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and
albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have
meausured their days on earth in exactly this way,
between records." --Bruce Russell

the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists,
post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we
have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont
neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step
backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step
backward in the history of blues (while his recording
of his "recording" takes one step forward into
dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me)
begs the question: if the blues was entertainment
industry music then what of prison songs? what of
remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is
there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the
feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording
only? were there no fields for the field
hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp?

in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to
boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a
comment on the use of history). he has a choice when
to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history"
(i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the
original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and
off. is it the comment on the recording process that
itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question
that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound
itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or
with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a
data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available
to you in the turntable or tape-machine? 

i'd like to hear some comments on this.




j.ff gbk

http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/

http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html

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Hello Hans,
Ritz Club no longer exists and now it is called Maxime. They have no website
but maybe you can work around your way on this adress:
http://cotonete.clix.pt/agenda/index.asp
It is an agenda from a music portal and all you have to do is to put the
dates  that you will be staying in Lisbon and it will give you
a concert listing.

As for the Hot Clube yes they are open and you can find their website here:

http://www.hcp.pt/calendariogeral.asp

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Fernando


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make sure you're using the latest drivers, that should fix it.

On 6/27/06, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> is there a separate driver for asio? i often get a
> error reading that says the program failed to open the
> audio device when i designate it for asio. this only
> happens (and not all the time) when i use asio
> setting. it never happens when i use dx setting. any
> ideas what is happening there?
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> --- cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
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> > what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the
> > drivers. use asio for best
> > performance.
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> > On 6/24/06, Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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> > >
> > > On 23/06/06, Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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> > > > I had a indego IO, worked greate
> > > > But no midi, fast n clean.
> > > >
> > >
> > > i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does
> > it affect the
> > > latency of a usb keyboard?
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is there a separate driver for asio? i often get a
error reading that says the program failed to open the
audio device when i designate it for asio. this only
happens (and not all the time) when i use asio
setting. it never happens when i use dx setting. any
ideas what is happening there?

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> what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the
> drivers. use asio for best
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the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st
Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at
www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released
on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in
the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me
by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with
ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but
interesting:

"...the blues were literally made by the recording
process...For the Bluesman the long road from
plantation to obscurity to international fame was
first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and
albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have
meausured their days on earth in exactly this way,
between records." --Bruce Russell

the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists,
post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we
have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont
neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step
backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step
backward in the history of blues (while his recording
of his "recording" takes one step forward into
dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me)
begs the question: if the blues was entertainment
industry music then what of prison songs? what of
remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is
there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the
feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording
only? were there no field for the field hollers---just
scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp?

in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to
boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar, also a
comment on the use of history. he has a choice when to
turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history" (i.e.
the recording process) and when he recorded the
original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and
off. is it the comment on the recording process that
itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question
that takers on the "identifiction" of microsound
itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or
with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a
data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available
to you in the turntable or tape-machine? 

i'd like to hear some comments on this.







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This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent 
more than isolated moments "thinking" about.

I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing 
ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have 
already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of 
filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that 
end all too soon for my ears.

I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single) 
is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no 
matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour 
CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit 
too.

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Hi,

I'm on the digest so this reply is a little delayed...

Bruce Russell (acoustic guitar, vocal, analogue tape treatments, mixing 
and composition) also released a fantastic cd with contributions from 
Ralf Wehowsky (sitar, digital sound processing) on A Bruit Secret 
called "Midnight Crossroads Tape Recorder Blues".
www.abruitsecret.com/

It's a very personal response to blues music and attempts to make links 
between electro-acoustic music and blues, primarily their somewhat 
shared relationship to recording technology in the 20th century. 
Includes extensive liner notes from the always interesting and 
entertaining Bruce Russell.


best,
steve

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just remembered this new release on his netlabel
www.mattin.org (but he gave me hard copy version, nice
booklet) by bruce russel: "21st century field hollers
and prison songs"

--- Björn Eriksson <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:

> Tetuzi Akiyama
>
> /Björn
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>> can anyOne onList point me towards projects that
> exist @  intersections of
>> microsound, digital signal processing, electro-
> acoustics ++ blues musics?
>>
>> thnx in adv
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>> // jonCates
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Installation artist Trimpin has midi files of Nancarrow. There's no 
website, and I'm not sure about email for him. Best bet is the Seattle 
phone book.

trev

Jonas Jurkunas wrote:
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> We are about to organize a mechanic MIDI piano
> concert, during "Jauna muzika" festival next year. 
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> Obviously, C. Nancarrow's pieces are a must for this
> instrument to perform. 
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> Do you happen to know, where we could get MIDI
> versions of Mr. Nancarrow's music for player piano?
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Casaluce-Geiger

Synusi@: a text between the pages and the Net.

A video-installation for La Capitale Mondiale del Libro 



Torino, Atrium, Piazza Solferino
21-27 giugno 2006


 

 

Active between Italy and Austria, Casaluce-Geiger has explored the territories of the Self  giving life to synusi@, a multidimensional figure, a desiring virus that unexpectedly appears and disappears in different contexts and through different expressive media.

Like the character of Mystica in the comic X-Men, Synusi@ can assume various forms and dimensions pointing at different objects before substituting, imitating and, sometimes, deriding them; such an artificial creature is better defined by the word ‘cyborg’ and embodies the nature of an ‘artifice’ in its original sense through the re-creation of new meanings and the extrapolation of details from the context.

Passing through a web performance at the Biennale in Venice, a presence in an important Belgian Museum, and the personification of an unusual journalist for the magazine Drome -in a confrontation with the artist  Cattelan, synusi@ re-works the Self as a text composed by a series of allusive stratifications; such an artifice which has a natural tendency to baroque is created through the juxtaposition of heterogeneous images merging in a sort of book composed by many others.

Among the most important projects, there are From the pages of my diary, hosted live in the Atelier Augarten at the Belvedere Museum in Vienna and the often-anthologized image -a joyful, but, at the same time, unsettling self-portrait of the artist in men’s clothes playing a shaving posture- in which Casaluce-Geiger is critically engaged with others’ textures, including the allusive figuration of the Italian artist Betty Bee.

For the 2006 edition of La Capitale del Libro, Casaluce-Geiger presents two different visual projects: a video-installation showing some of Synusi@’s  raids and intrusions and a personal anthology of images about the artist’s research work.

In conclusion, Synusi@ keeps a diary of a reality in movement, a Self which is reluctant to be constrained and is, conversely, eager to explore all possible new dimensions between words and images, in search of a dialogical community composed of famous artists as, for example, Derrick de Kerkhove and Patrick Tuttofuoco.

 

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Damian Stewart wrote:
> hey frank,

whoops, didn't mean to send that there.. hehe

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hey frank,

i've noticed you seem to be using pd for minimal techno kind of purposes 
-- especially with synched visuals -- but i'm having some trouble 
finding any sets/tracks/(ideally)videos of anything you've done -- save 
for an amazing looking video on the generatorx website.

point me in the right direction?

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the music of Stephen Vitiello is some of the deepest
and most satisfying using both digital instruments, organic instruments,
and field recordings.
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> Hi Paul,
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> You may want to check out some of Stephen Vitiello's music as well -
> he does the same thing a lot of the time and his output is pretty
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Hi microsounders, 

We are about to organize a mechanic MIDI piano
concert, during "Jauna muzika" festival next year. 

Obviously, C. Nancarrow's pieces are a must for this
instrument to perform. 

Do you happen to know, where we could get MIDI
versions of Mr. Nancarrow's music for player piano?

Regards, 
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>

Never gave it much thought - I'm more an "is" than a "should"
person, I suppose. In terms of recordings to release, I have
tended to focus strongly on complete live sets, no overdubs,
etc. - the recent c74 release is right about 45 minutes because
that was the time frame I was given by our mutual friend Derek
Holzer. As it happened, there wasn't much sign during the
performance that the audience was restive, so I didn't cut it
short. That particular iteration seemed worth "going to the wall"
for, so it was that long. Other things are longer, some shorter.

<aside borne of the idea of linking length to a real event>
I expect that many of you don't think of constructing things
in this manner, since some of you probably don't do much
live work. I would encourage you to consider it; I think that
there are a large number of kinds of engagement with an
audience that don't involve pandering, that there's no real
substitute for personal contact, and that you may discover
in practice that a sufficiently engaging performance may
actually trump the expectations of "entertainment" in terms
of presentation (i.e., an audience can actually tell how hard
you're working on your interface of choice). Perhaps not
always, of course - but enough to be worthwhile, I think.
</aside>

And then you can collect that work until you think it's
"right" [after all, you do get to make that choice. So little
is yours to decide in the world, you might as well enjoy
as many decisions as you can] and release it. With luck,
DIY means that you're free to reconsider all kinds of
expectations - length of work, presentation, and so on.

Your mileage may vary.

gregory

P.S. I have reached a decision as I typed my name:
A "digital" album should be longer than one byte.
Should we try an "impulse compilation"? Maybe.


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Am 26.6.2006 14:33 Uhr schrieb "cHristian negre i walczak" unter
<xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>:

> hi again peeps,
> 
> i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical
> media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you ralph
> explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind.

i can only speak for myself, but i have far more physical media then
"digital audio". christian, i haven't stated that a) you have a narrow view
and b) i also haven't stated that having more digital media is wrong.

all i'm saying is that with "digital audio" you have the possibility of
deleting single tracks and "taking apart" a work in itself into different
sections (or tracks). if you listen to something and then decide which
tracks from an album you're going to keep and which not,  then you're
basing your decision making on what your approach to that particular
music is at that particular time... that's what i meant with narrowing
the view down... as i explained before i often rediscover tracks which
are older and suddenly i like them alot because out of whatever reason.
if i would have decided earlier on to delete that track i would never have
the possibility of redescovering things.

also in my opinion, it's very important why tracks are on one album and
why they are sequenced as they are and why they have a certain length, etc.
i would never rearrange tracks of an album in a different order or change
the flow of that... if it doesn't fit right together then it's not a good
album. pretty simple...

> one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when the
> artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed
> among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind its
> main objective.
> 
> i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
> listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
> feeling towards music.
> 
> as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but not
> so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived
> with them.
> 
> have a nice day!

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hi

On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> Also as more material becomes available on a track by track
> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old
> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think?

depends on the project.

i think the 60 mins you're thinking about is a result of how music was
packaged more than anything intrinsic in the music. sun ra and
arkestra, the greatful dead, fela kuti and other groups of improvising
musicians could play 4 hours or more. i think that is a more 'natural'
timeframe than 1 hour.

and now, for myself, i find short forms much more welcoming than long
ones. i sometimes gather these smaller pieces into collections,
usually by date of creation; but that is more for organizing them than
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Hi Paul,

You may want to check out some of Stephen Vitiello's music as well -
he does the same thing a lot of the time and his output is pretty
good, I think.

Kevin

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Dear All

I meant digital how cHristian says...I was curious at how older technology 
still influences how newer technology is used, not least by myself!

Paul


>From: "cHristian negre i walczak" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
>Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be
>Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:33:28 +0200
>
>hi again peeps,
>
>i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical
>media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you 
>ralph
>explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind.
>
>one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when 
>the
>artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed
>among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind 
>its
>main objective.
>
>i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
>listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
>feeling towards music.
>
>as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but 
>not
>so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived
>with them.
>
>have a nice day!
>
>
>
>On 6/26/06, steinbrüchel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>
>>and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;)
>>
>>when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title
>>of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down
>>view of format...
>>
>>thank you,
>>ralph.
>>
>>
>>Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter
>><xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>:
>>
>> > here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below:
>> >
>> > in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first
>> > are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks
>> > that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest
>> > up over time.
>> >
>> > also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never
>> > throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might
>> > change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view
>> > of sound and music...
>> >
>> > my 5 rappen,
>> > ralph.
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter
>> > <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>> >
>> >> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...
>> >>
>> >> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the
>> >> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
>> >> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are
>> >> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
>> >> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more
>> >> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of
>> >> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good').  there is 
>>subsequently
>> >> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which
>> >> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.
>> >>
>> >> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is
>> >> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not
>> >> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 
>>4
>> >> track EP of top quality punk is also ok!
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep
>> >>> tracks i
>> >>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an
>> >>> album, so
>> >>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps
>> >>> are a
>> >>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is probably an old debate...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be
>> >>>> complete
>> >>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to
>> >>>> an
>> >>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the
>> >>>> distribution
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For
>> >>>> example, on
>> >>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few
>> >>>> things
>> >>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track
>>by
>> >>>> track
>> >>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an
>>old
>> >>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you
>> >>>> think?
>> >>>> Will
>> >>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration
>> >>>> depending on
>> >>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is
>> >>>> 60
>> >>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Paul
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hi again peeps,

i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical
media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you ralph
explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind.

one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when the
artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed
among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind its
main objective.

i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and
listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic
feeling towards music.

as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but not
so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived
with them.

have a nice day!



On 6/26/06, steinbrüchel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;)
>
> when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title
> of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down
> view of format...
>
> thank you,
> ralph.
>
>
> Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter
> <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>:
>
> > here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below:
> >
> > in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first
> > are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks
> > that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest
> > up over time.
> >
> > also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never
> > throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might
> > change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view
> > of sound and music...
> >
> > my 5 rappen,
> > ralph.
> >
> >
> > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter
> > <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> >
> >> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...
> >>
> >> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the
> >> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
> >> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are
> >> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
> >> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more
> >> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of
> >> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good').  there is subsequently
> >> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which
> >> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.
> >>
> >> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is
> >> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not
> >> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4
> >> track EP of top quality punk is also ok!
> >>
> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:
> >>
> >>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep
> >>> tracks i
> >>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an
> >>> album, so
> >>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps
> >>> are a
> >>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
> >>>
> >>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is probably an old debate...
> >>>>
> >>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be
> >>>> complete
> >>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to
> >>>> an
> >>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the
> >>>> distribution
> >>>> and
> >>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For
> >>>> example, on
> >>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few
> >>>> things
> >>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track
> by
> >>>> track
> >>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an
> old
> >>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you
> >>>> think?
> >>>> Will
> >>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration
> >>>> depending on
> >>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is
> >>>> 60
> >>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
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and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;)

when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title
of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down
view of format...

thank you,
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Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter
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> here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below:
> 
> in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first
> are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks
> that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest
> up over time.
> 
> also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never
> throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might
> change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view
> of sound and music...
> 
> my 5 rappen,
> ralph.
> 
> 
> Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter
> <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> 
>> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...
>> 
>> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the
>> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
>> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are
>> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
>> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more
>> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of
>> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good').  there is subsequently
>> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which
>> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.
>> 
>> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is
>> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not
>> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4
>> track EP of top quality punk is also ok!
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:
>> 
>>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep
>>> tracks i
>>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an
>>> album, so
>>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps
>>> are a
>>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
>>> 
>>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is probably an old debate...
>>>> 
>>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be
>>>> complete
>>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to
>>>> an
>>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the
>>>> distribution
>>>> and
>>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For
>>>> example, on
>>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few
>>>> things
>>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by
>>>> track
>>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old
>>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you
>>>> think?
>>>> Will
>>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration
>>>> depending on
>>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is
>>>> 60
>>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
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i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...

i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the 
tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are 
able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more 
artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of 
really good stuff... (of course what is 'good').  there is subsequently 
less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which 
almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.

another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is 
working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not 
a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4 
track EP of top quality punk is also ok!

On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:

> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep 
> tracks i
> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an 
> album, so
> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps 
> are a
> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
>
> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> This is probably an old debate...
>>
>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be 
>> complete
>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to 
>> an
>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the 
>> distribution
>> and
>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For 
>> example, on
>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few 
>> things
>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by
>> track
>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old
>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you 
>> think?
>> Will
>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration 
>> depending on
>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is 
>> 60
>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below:

in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first
are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks
that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest
up over time.

also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never
throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might
change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view
of sound and music...

my 5 rappen,
ralph.


Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter
<xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>:

> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format...
> 
> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the
> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;)
> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are
> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts
> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more
> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of
> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good').  there is subsequently
> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which
> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'.
> 
> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is
> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not
> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4
> track EP of top quality punk is also ok!
> 
> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote:
> 
>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep
>> tracks i
>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an
>> album, so
>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps
>> are a
>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.
>> 
>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is probably an old debate...
>>> 
>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be
>>> complete
>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to
>>> an
>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the
>>> distribution
>>> and
>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For
>>> example, on
>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few
>>> things
>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by
>>> track
>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old
>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you
>>> think?
>>> Will
>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration
>>> depending on
>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is
>>> 60
>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
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Hallo,
cHristian negre i walczak hat gesagt: // cHristian negre i walczak wrote:

> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep tracks i
> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an album, so
> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps are a
> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.

I also think, that in the Podcast age, single-track releases will
become more common as well, similar to the "release early, release
often" mantra of open source developement. This doesn't have to have a
bad influence on quality (rushed releases etc.) as one could expect. I
think, it may also be interesting to see a work evolve. 

Ciao
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from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep tracks i
didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an album, so
the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps are a
more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents.

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> This is probably an old debate...
>
> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be complete
> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to an
> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the distribution
> and
> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For example, on
> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few things
> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by
> track
> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old
> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think?
> Will
> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration depending on
> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is 60
> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?
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Hi,

I asked you a password for the microsound hotline and server a few days 
ago...
What about it ?

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This is probably an old debate...

I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be complete 
when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to an 
"album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the distribution and 
consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For example, on 
my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few things 
I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by track 
basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old 
medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think? Will 
we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration depending on 
the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours).  Or is 60 
minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length?

Paul

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Thanks everyone who mailed links etc; I now have a load of research to do!

Paul


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>Hello!
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>After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical 
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>others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my 
>hands on. The only thing I really know about this field is Francisco Lopez 
>apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique 
>and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with 
>similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach 
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Well said 

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in April 2005 (over a year ago now) we instituted a 'NO ANNOUNCEMENTS and NO
CROSS-POSTING to the microsound list' policy

no announcements means: no cd releases, no calls for works, no concert info,
etc. etc.; in other words NOTHING PROMOTIONAL!

it is understandable that n00bs will invariably discover this policy by
posting an announcement and then receiving an email slap on the wrist from
me...
no big deal as these people usually respond with an polite apology -- no big
deal, end of story.

but when a long-term member posts an announcement to the main list it means
you don't bother to read the list...
i.e., you demonstrate that you use the list for your own purposes and have
little interest in contributing to it.
this behavior is not in the spirit of the list.

the microsound list was set up for building a community, not to become a
vehicle for self-promotion.

if you need a place to post announcements and promotional communiques we set
up another list called the microsound-announce list John Saylor graciously
set up this other list for that purpose.
if you go to the microsound web page you will find out how to sub to this
other list all announcements and cross posting should find its way to the
other list...

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what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the drivers. use asio for best
performance.

On 6/24/06, Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> > But no midi, fast n clean.
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> i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does it affect the
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me too. but it seems to work anyway.

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To San Francisco Microsound:

I am producing the 2nd season of The Soundwave>Series, an event series 
exploring sound in San Francisco and have run into a problem. A crucial 
sponsor back out and I have been scrambling to find equipment for the 
fast approaching upcoming shows happening in 2 weeks at The LAB.

I am asking if any of you in the SF Bay Area might be able to help.

We are in need of:
2 POWERED SPEAKERS (ACTIVE- MACKIE's PREFERRED)

Needed for:
THURSDAY JULY 6 to SATURDAY JULY 8
(THU-setup, FRI-SAT-performance)
at The LAB
SOUNDSPACE
(a 6-speaker sound installation that will have the audience experience 
sound in an all-encompassing aural environment)

This is a not-for-profit project with no budget and no funding. We have 
been able to put these shows together from sheer
determination and the generosity of the community. It is a six speaker 
installation but are in need of just ONE MORE PAIR of ACTIVE SPEAKERS.

More information on the event series:
http://www.projectsoundwave.com/series

Thank you so much for reading. Let me know if you or anyone you know 
that can offer any help. Please contact me at xxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx or 415 
994 8935.

Best Regards,


Alan So, Director, ME'D1.ATE Network
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Upcoming:
SOUNDWAVE>SERIES ((2)) June/July 2006
www.projectsoundwave.com/series
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Noel Peters wrote:
> Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app?

they don't readily 'convert' per se -- osc addressing is based on
user-defined and theoretically limitless human-readable text, whereas
midi addressing is streamlined and not easily extensible.

having said that, if you know the kind of OSC messages you're receiving,
and you know the MIDI data you want to send out, you could build
something fairly easily using pd:

www.puredata.info

you'd want to look into the 'dumpOSC' object for receiving OSC messages,
and dive into the midi tutorials for how to spit the data out as MIDI.

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HI, all!
Does anybody know if the Ritz Club (on Rua da Gloria) and the Hot 
Clube (on Praca de Alegria) in Lisbon are open this summer?

/Cheers,
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yes - i have received that message
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> 
> is anyone else on the list getting messages like this?
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> Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the
> non-promotional nature of this 
> message)
> None"
> 
> 
> it has happened a few time now when i post to
> microsound. but then my posts go through
> nevertheless...
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
> 
> j.ff gbk
> 
> http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/
> 
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is anyone else on the list getting messages like this?


"Blogger could not process your message at this time.

Error code: 11.83A4B2

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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the
non-promotional nature of this 
message)
None"


it has happened a few time now when i post to
microsound. but then my posts go through
nevertheless...

?



       



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Theses on Noise 

I 

What the fuck is Noise? 

Precisely because of its indeterminacy noise is the
most sensuous human 
activity / practice. To try to fix it or to make it a
genre is as fucked 
up as believing in democracy. 


II 

If you make noise it is likely that somebody else is
going to hear you, 
this means Noise is a social activity. 


III 

The capacity to make Noise is available to all, but
its revolutionary 
potential comes from those who want to disturb the
commodification of 
Noise - as M.A.N point out in their website
www.mothersagainstnoise.us. 


IV 

To say “this is good Noise” or “that is bad Noise” is
to miss the point. 


V 

Noise without meaning nor finality is revolutionary as
long as it does 
not support anything or anybody. 


VI 

This is not to say that Noise under capitalism can be
an autonomous 
activity. But if neither language nor bombs help you
to destroy our 
reality, Noise helps us to get rid of our anxiety. 


VII 

It is more important to fuck the minds of the audience
than to fuck your 
ears - and vice versa. 


VIII 

The identity process that occurs as people are making
Noise must be 
constantly rejected. To be a “Noisician” is even more
pathetic than to 
be a “musician”. 

IX 

Factory workers in the previous centuries have
indirectly been the most 
sustained and brutal players of Noise. Recognition of
our past should 
always be present. 


X 

Economic exploitation still occurs, even if now the
production of Noise 
does not produce an object. The process of Noise
making has in itself 
become the object of financial and symbolic market
value. 


XI 

The old conception of noise was to believe in freedom,
the new 
conception of Noise is to achieve freedom. 


Mattin 

25th May 2006, London 

Anti-Copyright 

www.mattin.org 








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thanks jorge, our extended memory process is putting
things together. "redintegration", i think they call
it. anyway, these texts are very nice. there area few
lacunae because of typos but i trying to clear those
up with paolo. 

http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html



--- Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 24, 2006, at 1:03 AM, jeff gburek wrote:
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> >
> > try www.binaural.org .
> i think this is the good link!
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http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html
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Bruno Pronsato - The River (Sr.Replicante BleepMix-last ) This is the 
latest version!!!
I hope you like it !
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.. . . .
BLEEP STUFF FOR THE UNDERGROUND!
Buenos Aires , Argentina , June 06.
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Here is the new link to download it:
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> --- Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> > After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical
> > musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've
> > recently discovered some joy and success in processing field
> > recordings (mine and others) using tools like Audacity and any
> > Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my hands on. The only thing I really
> > know about this field is Francisco Lopez apparently does something
> > similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique and are there any good
> > resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with similar
> > materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach is
> > to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and layer
> > with other recordings.

Hi Paul,

No idea if you will find it relevant, but I've been working with field
recordings via my own processes for a while; most things are documented on
my site if you poke around.

More to the point you might find 'quiet, please' in the 'related projects'
section interesting; it collects interviews and monologs from various
people who work with field recordings, but it's a few years old now.
(The site is quietamerican.org, processed work is mostly filed under
'discography' and 'commissions.')

Beware that I haven't posted any writing about process specifically yet,
that's in the works but so is so much else...

Btw if you haven't found it you might enjoy the phonography mailing list
on Yahoo groups, it's specifically about aesthetically motivated
approaches to field recording. Not everyone there is interested in
composition, I'd say the core focus is simply on enjoying recordings as
is, but there are plenty of people there who process/compose as well.

Be sure to check out EarthEar.com and and-oar.org, both of which have
extensive catalogs of work in this area.

Finally if you're interested in the pre-history of this kind of work be
sure to check out musique concerete: Luc Ferrari, Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre
Henri, etc... the Archives GRM box set is a great primer.

 best regards,
  aaron

PS please consider submitting a favorite recording sometime to:

  http://oneminutevacation.org

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  http://www.quietamerican.org

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http://www.earlabs.org is one I like a lot!

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> try www.binaural.org .
i think this is the good link!
http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html


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hi, here are some:

vital weekly. 
http://www.vitalweekly.net

ampersand
http://ampersandetc.virtualave.net/ampersand.html

grooves
http://www.groovesmag.com/

incursion
http://www.incursion.org/imr/index.html

neural
http://www.neural.it/

sands-zine
http://www.sands-zine.com/

seven
http://www.nezzwerk.com/seven/reviews/

brainwashed
http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv04i17.html

igloomag
http://www.igloomag.com

touching extremes
http://spazioinwind.libero.it/extremes/touchinghome.htm


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just remembered this new release on his netlabel
www.mattin.org (but he gave me hard copy version, nice
booklet) by bruce russel: "21st century field hollers
and prison songs"

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> I had a indego IO, worked great.
> But no midi, fast n clean.
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i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does it affect the
latency of a usb keyboard?

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try www.binaural.org . there is a recent set of
interviews there, including lopez, chris watson,
yannick dauby and others who work in this way. also
see www.futurevessel.com/orphansound



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> Hello!
> 
> After years of disappointment trying to make
> music/sound from physical 
> musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi
> instruments, I've recently 
> discovered some joy and success in processing field
> recordings (mine and 
> others) using tools like Audacity and any
> Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my 
> hands on. The only thing I really know about this
> field is Francisco Lopez 
> apparently does something similar. Is this a
> standard "digital" technique 
> and are there any good resources in terms of
> tools/strategies or sites with 
> similar materials? Is anyone else here doing
> something similar? My approach 
> is to take several minutes (usually) of material,
> process it and layer with 
> other recordings.
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I had a indego IO, worked great.
But no midi, fast n clean. 

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hi,

i've decided i really don't like having to carry around an external box for
quality audio, so i'm looking for a pcmcia soundcard.

i just want 1 stereo in and 1 stereo out, very low latency for the audio in
and midi (does the soundcard affect latency of usb devices?), and 24 bit and
low noise etc. any recommendations for a tight budget?
the only sub-£200 ones i can find are the echo indigo range, and sb audigy
things, but i cant find reviews of either.

thanks.

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hi,

i've decided i really don't like having to carry around an external
box for quality audio, so i'm looking for a pcmcia soundcard.

i just want 1 stereo in and 1 stereo out, very low latency for the
audio in and midi (does the soundcard affect latency of usb devices?),
and 24 bit and low noise etc. any recommendations for a tight budget?
the only sub-£200 ones i can find are the echo indigo range, and sb
audigy things, but i cant find reviews of either.

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You can follow the links over at www.phonography.org , especially 
"phonogaphers" and "links". You should be able to get some new information 
here if you're not already familiar with this site/community.

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> Hello!
>
> After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical 
> musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've recently 
> discovered some joy and success in processing field recordings (mine and 
> others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my 
> hands on. The only thing I really know about this field is Francisco Lopez 
> apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique 
> and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites 
> with similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My 
> approach is to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and 
> layer with other recordings.
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> Thanks in advance
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Hello!

After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical 
musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've recently 
discovered some joy and success in processing field recordings (mine and 
others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my 
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apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique 
and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with 
similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach 
is to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and layer with 
other recordings.

Thanks in advance

Paul

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Noel Peters wrote:
> Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app?

they don't readily 'convert' per se -- osc addressing is based on 
user-defined and theoretically limitless human-readable text, whereas 
midi addressing is streamlined and not easily extensible.

having said that, if you know the kind of OSC messages you're receiving, 
and you know the MIDI data you want to send out, you could build 
something fairly easily using pd:

www.puredata.info

you'd want to look into the 'dumpOSC' object for receiving OSC messages, 
and dive into the midi tutorials for how to spit the data out as MIDI.

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Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app?

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i thought about tetuzi but i know he uses no computers
in his music. he generally uses no pedals either or
processors. when he plays with the blues feeling it is
often without any of what i would call "crossover"
intentions. it is music from feeling. i think this is
why i didnt say check out my own material in this
regard (yes, blues, but i dont think it is microsound
for example). (just because you use e.gtr. doesnt mean
it is electro acoustic). but i will offer this: a cd
called "strands formerly braided" features a mix of
players (keenan lawler, tom carter, matt mcdonell and
mike tamburo) which really spans all the territory
mentioned by the original poster. label: music
fellowship (new haven)

--- Björn Eriksson <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:

> Tetuzi Akiyama
> 
> /Björn
> 
> > can anyOne onList point me towards projects that
> exist @  intersections of 
> > microsound, digital signal processing, electro-
> acoustics ++ blues musics?
> >
> > thnx in adv
> >
> > // jonCates
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i hope all of you in the bay area can make it !
if so, make sure to say hello,

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On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote:

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>> acoustics ++ blues musics?
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>> thnx in adv

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>Ekkehard Ehlers- A Life Without Fear (Staubgold)
>

on a more rhythmic side also the conmpilation "blu tribunl" (inflatabl labl).


+  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +

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Ekkehard Ehlers- A Life Without Fear (Staubgold)

Here's a review:

http://www.almostcool.org/mr/1739/




http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/mp3specials.php

-bill

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A friend is starting a new online media/arts magazine called Innovative. The 
magazine is looking for artists who are unknown and aims to give them 
exposure. I know lots of people here are involved in various forms of art 
and I thought this list would be an ideal place to reach the right people.

The email address is to reply to is: xxxxxxxxxx_xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx

Here are all the details:


INNOVATIVE
adjective
1. origination, creation, invention and design.
2. the art of introducing something new; having a new and unusual idea.
3. a new online magazine introducing new and unrecognised talents.

Innovative covers everything and anything to do with undiscovered works in 
the media/arts. Whether these are works by visual artists, writers, 
filmmakers, music makers, journalists, or someone making an as-yet unnamed 
form of art, Innovative covers it.

This is a place where you can post your work for all to see/read/hear and 
comment on, chat to other artists like yourself in the forum, make 
career-furthering contacts,
share your ideas before they become reality or simply make friends with 
likeminded people.

This is a place where an up and coming artist can show off their skills and 
talents, whatever they may be, without bias or discrepancy.

The magazine will be full to bursting point with reviews of short stories, 
film scripts, poetry, new music and short films.

“Innovative thoughts lead to Innovative magazine”



WHO’S DOING WHAT

Select a job and write a brief description what you intend to contribute 
(e.g. post-digital poetry, pre-Raphaelite photographs, urban-sprawl poetry, 
etc).


· WRITERS (scripts, short stories, poetry, travel stories, etc)





· EDITORS (chief, co)





· PRODUCTION (web designers)





· ARTIST (music, film, photographers, etc)





· JOURNALIST  (news/events)





· PR/ADVERTSING, MARKETING (advertisement, exposure, target market)









PERSONAL DETAILS




TITLE:



NAME:



DATE OF BIRTH:



JOB CHOSEN:





These details are private, they are for company use only, and will not be 
shared with anyone at all. We swear on the eyes of our future children that 
this information stays with us.


FAQ:
1. What is Innovative?
Innovative is an independent online literary/art/media magazine dedicated to 
providing exposure for as-yet unknown artists deserving of wider 
recognition. Innovative is full of intelligent reviews, articles, interviews 
and digital content (music, video and photography) presented to inform and 
enlighten.
2. Who is Innovative?
A small but dedicated team of likeminded creative people who love the art 
but hate the monotony of mainstream art.
3. What are Innovative’s aims?
To expose progressive artists who innovate through genuine personal 
expression rather than novelty. To encourage its readers to be more 
creative. To promote thought through its articles and reviews. To unite 
individuals who want more than the mainstream media offer. To cover art 
which the mainstream media ignore.
4. Why is the magazine called Innovative?
Because of its focus on promoting innovative artists, writers and thinkers. 
Also, unlike other magazines Innovative relies upon its readers to determine 
much of its content. A large percentage of the magazine consists of works 
provided by its creative readership, many of whom are artists, writers, etc.
5. How can I contact Innovative?
Subscribe.
6. How can I contribute to Innovative?
At the moment, you may only contribute on a freelance basis (i.e. no job 
vacancies right now). To do so, contact the editor with your ideas or 
enclosing a few (i.e. maximum three) LINKS to examples of your work. We love 
submissions; we hate Inbox-filling attachments. Remember: LINKS not 
ATTACHMENTS.



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Im into producing a piece for the project, though Im still not clear on what the objective is.

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many thanks Aaron will get back to you maybe. thanks a
lot.

best

ben

--- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> > hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones
> got
> > any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats
> needs
> > 48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc
> recorder
> 
> Rolls and ART both make 9V-battery powered phantom
> supplies that have
> tested well with MD recorders. These are not
> preamps, just phantom
> powering units. They are bigger and heavier than the
> MD itself but have
> tested well with a wide variety of mics (providing
> enough power with no
> discernible addition of noise).
> 
> I paid about $80 for the Rolls unit as I recall.
> It's the PB224 -- the
> similar PB223 runs off a wallwart, not battery!
> 
> Btw another alternative would be to use a batter
> powered pre like the
> Sound Devices MP2 (if you can find one used for
> $350) which also provides
> phantom. The pres on the HiMDs are so good tho that
> this is not cost
> effective unless you also want say the M/S decoding
> available in the MP2.
> 
>  best,
>   aaron
> 
>   xxxxx@xxxx.xxx
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I'm into an additive microsound project. Reminded me somehow of the Sound 
Recovery / Sound Injury project(s). They were by nature branching. Read more 
at HarS SoundBlog:
http://www.harsmedia.com/SoundBlog/Archief/00534.php

The only way to get things rollin' is to have the rules agreed upon and then 
set a deadline. So "someone" - please post suggestions to 
rules/instructions! Maybe some alterations - and then we go. The realization 
(the actual sound scaping) of the project could take at least one or two 
weeks. Maybe a bit more. But maybe a project that is formed in just some 
hours would be very exciting to be a part of too... I guess the working 
methods will differ a lot depending on what "speed" we choose.

To find a decent randomizer should be no problem. Dunno how exactly it is 
intended to work though.

Would be very nice if we could have a microsound project that finally takes 
place. T'was a long time since last time.


/Björn Eriksson


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> is this project then going to be routed through
> microsound.org or just be deposited there ultimately?
> i am still unclear if this is going to be an "live"
> and very fast thing or just allowed to evolve? i'd
> like to hear more direct talk about time frame. and
> what are the files that we begin with?
>
> --- Josh Atkins <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> ryuichi sakamoto started something like this called
>> chain music.  the
>> piece is on the web at
>> http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>> On 6/14/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to
>> begin with a
>> > single
>> > work and pass it through a chain of remixes and
>> rewordings, and
>> > archive and document each step? Step order by
>> lottery...
>> > ....each step in the morph process could be given
>> an amount of time
>> > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a
>> turnaround time of an hour
>> > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me
>> [time zone issues
>> > might apply], but still a good  time. I suppose
>> you might allow
>> > branching and archiving for more opportunity for
>> choice.
>> > Geneological graphic player to explain morph
>> graphically? Sorry if
>> > it's an old idea.
>> >
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> hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones got
> any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats needs
> 48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc recorder

Rolls and ART both make 9V-battery powered phantom supplies that have
tested well with MD recorders. These are not preamps, just phantom
powering units. They are bigger and heavier than the MD itself but have
tested well with a wide variety of mics (providing enough power with no
discernible addition of noise).

I paid about $80 for the Rolls unit as I recall. It's the PB224 -- the
similar PB223 runs off a wallwart, not battery!

Btw another alternative would be to use a batter powered pre like the
Sound Devices MP2 (if you can find one used for $350) which also provides
phantom. The pres on the HiMDs are so good tho that this is not cost
effective unless you also want say the M/S decoding available in the MP2.

 best,
  aaron

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is this project then going to be routed through
microsound.org or just be deposited there ultimately?
i am still unclear if this is going to be an "live"
and very fast thing or just allowed to evolve? i'd
like to hear more direct talk about time frame. and
what are the files that we begin with?

--- Josh Atkins <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> ryuichi sakamoto started something like this called
> chain music.  the
> piece is on the web at
> http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/
> 
> ~josh
> 
> On 6/14/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to
> begin with a
> > single
> > work and pass it through a chain of remixes and
> rewordings, and
> > archive and document each step? Step order by
> lottery...
> > ....each step in the morph process could be given
> an amount of time
> > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a
> turnaround time of an hour
> > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me
> [time zone issues
> > might apply], but still a good  time. I suppose
> you might allow
> > branching and archiving for more opportunity for
> choice.
> > Geneological graphic player to explain morph
> graphically? Sorry if
> > it's an old idea.
> >
> >
> >
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http://xiphoidprocess.com/ec2/

i personally should have taken more time and production w/ my slice, but
the over all product is pretty awesome.  

big ups to the xiphoid process!  

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I got an error message that said my 1st message had failed. Sorry.
Maybe if this project is OK, Kim or someone who can, generate some
randomizer....do a sign up sheet....and stage the order that way. I
would like to hear ideas for documentation standards
Brannching would be my vote too.


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Something simpler could be done between two people, passing one (or
two -- one originating from each) files back and forth.

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> has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to begin with a
> single
> work and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and
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> branching and archiving for more opportunity for choice.
> Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if
> it's an old idea.

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hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones got
any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats needs
48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc recorder
please? i've checked out DI boxes but they all seem to
need a power supply, which i wouldnt have (or haven't
thought about how to sort out) in 'the field'.

best

ben

--- p jørgensen <x@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> i need a cheap (and preferably good) mic for doing
> field recordings 
> onto my hi-MD.
> cheap in this case meaning less than $100.
> the mic has to be small (pocketsize).
> no pre-amp.
> would electrets be a good solution?
> 
> and yes, i know the recordings won't be as good as
> using better gear, 
> but these are my limitations.
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ryuichi sakamoto started something like this called chain music.  the
piece is on the web at http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/

~josh

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> Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if
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i'm in. but who starts the process and how do figure out a running  
order?

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>> has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to begin with
>> a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and
>> rewordings, and archive and document each step?
>
> I think this sounds like a grand idea.
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i tried to do this once, but it was going to be audio->video->audio

one little bottleneck and the whole thing falls to bits unfortunately, 
we made it about two rounds and then it all broke.. haha

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Hi,
has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to begin with a
single
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Ha! When I looked at the subject line I thought someone was going
there to do some field recording...


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> here for a few more weeks ...

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Any recommendations on some places to check out for experimental music? Out
here for a few more weeks ...

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easily a century ahead of his time and a genius among geniuses.

i must admit, it was 2001 that got me into his compositions, but  
without that film i would have never known his brilliance outside of  
pop culture.

some of the most inspiring, scary, terrifying, beautiful,  
disembodying, intense, embryonic,  futuristic, three dimensional,  
dynamic, revolutionary, psychotic, visual music known to the planet.

go and buy all the berlin recordings now.  and turn off the lights  
and listen.

jupiter and beyond the infinite,

graham




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I'm on the digest, so I don't know if this has been posted already,
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full review here:
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> low point: detroit grand pubahs
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high point: ryoichi kurokawa

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Old or new this sounds like a neat project. Count me in.
-mike
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On 6/12/06, js <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> hi
>
> On 6/12/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > has an additive project been proposed ever?
>
> many projects have been proposed, but only the ones that kim have
> proposed have actually been carried to fruition.
>
> >  to begin with a single work
> > and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and
> > document each step?
>
> this is kinda interesting, but i think it might even be better if we
> have several branches coming off the main trunk. let the music grow as
> the musicians get inspired instead of 'forcing' them to work with a
> specific [unknown] input and hand off what they've done to the next
> 'victim' ...
>
> but i get the sense there are more people who might be interested in
> doing something like this now than there have been in the past.
>
> dunno- i'm not much of a clairvoyant ...
>
> > Sorry if
> > it's an old idea.
>
> that' ok- i think there still might be some life left in it.
>
> maybe before you start your re-working, you send a mail to get a
> random number to 'help' you with the music ...
>
> there are many rules that could be implemented ...
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hi

On 6/12/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> has an additive project been proposed ever?

many projects have been proposed, but only the ones that kim have
proposed have actually been carried to fruition.

>  to begin with a single work
> and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and
> document each step?

this is kinda interesting, but i think it might even be better if we
have several branches coming off the main trunk. let the music grow as
the musicians get inspired instead of 'forcing' them to work with a
specific [unknown] input and hand off what they've done to the next
'victim' ...

but i get the sense there are more people who might be interested in
doing something like this now than there have been in the past.

dunno- i'm not much of a clairvoyant ...

> Sorry if
> it's an old idea.

that' ok- i think there still might be some life left in it.

maybe before you start your re-working, you send a mail to get a
random number to 'help' you with the music ...

there are many rules that could be implemented ...

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> has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to begin with 
> a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and 
> rewordings, and archive and document each step?

I think this sounds like a grand idea.
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has an additive project been proposed ever? -  to begin with a single work
and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and
document each step?

maybe a random number could be assigned to provide sequence order of list
subscribers who want to participate, and each step in the morph process could
be given an amount of time to complete. Obviously a long project, but it
could be done on a live basis almost with a turnaround time of say - and hour
and a half? That might be too hard for me, but still a good  time.

I suppose you might allow branching and archiving for more opportunity for
choice. Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if
it's an old idea.

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> microsound Digest 12 Jun 2006 10:08:03 -0000 Issue 1622
>
> Topics (messages 39158 through 39159):
>
> Re: projects for microsound
>         39158 by: Thomas Ashcraft
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Dear Friends and Colleagues,

I previously proposed a microsound project to the list ( Symbiont ) to 
be a possible counterpart to the Parasites Rework Project. But due to 
happy and unforeseen circumstances I have to withdraw the invitation. 

I really hope there will be future microsound projects so that I can 
have something interesting to listen to and think about! Those older 
projects at microsound.org are generally very good entrainments of energy.

Best wishes to all in your creative endeavors and I hope to experience 
your work in the future somewhere on the internet.
Thomas A

Kim Cascone wrote:
> Thomas Ashcraft recently posted a project proposal to the list which I 
> mistook for a private project announcement - so I'm publicly 
> apologizing and requesting that Thomas repost his project proposal to 
> this list so we can hopefully get a new microsound project started...
>
> we have a new microsound project server just sitting there waiting for 
> something to happen -- so let's get to it!
> :)
>


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Från Skånska Dagbladet:

Ny metod att ställa diagnosen schizofreni
LUND. En grupp forskare har upptäckt att människor med schizofreni uppfattar 
ljud annorlunda. Det har lett till en ny metod att ställa diagnosen 
schizofreni. Tekniken går att använda även när patienterna är så sjuka att 
de inte är kontaktbara.


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jag tänker på Deleuze och kontrollsamhället...

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Haven't seen this posted yet. I just ran across this
about a year ago.

http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4659

Serial Port: A Brief History of Laptop Music
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Check out Ken Rinaldo's Autopoesis, it's conceptually similar. I can 
forward you info about a similar project a friend of mine did as well, 
when I get the info.

- Scott Carver

Kevin McCoy wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker
> programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in
> various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd.  The model 
> right now
> involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different
> shapes and clusters.  We are looking to create a sort of "organism"
> structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on 
> parameters
> set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and 
> sound
> models are of great interest to us.
>
> I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm
> turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound
> artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related 
> would
> be good.  Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking
> for references for this project, though technical information would be
> appreciated as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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I am pleased to announce that the microsound community has a new  
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*note: this new server is NOT a Hotline server and you DO NOT need to  
use a Hotline client for accessing this server...
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some points:
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the request for an account is checked against the database of sub'ers  
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please note that this server replaces and contains everything that  
was on the microsound hotline server
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track it down...

Paulo Mouat is hosting the server so if there is a problem please  
contact him via the list...
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*** we still need some help on the microsound web site -- if you can  
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so for the sake of redundancy:
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use a Hotline client for accessing this server...
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On Behalf Of Dave Malham
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To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and pd

 


Sursounders my like to know that our ambilib externals for pd
<http://www.puredata.info/>  are now available for both Win32 and Mac OSX
platforms. Ambilib contains the following (first order only) objects;

ambipan~      two input to Bformat output panner object

ambidec~       BFormat in pre-set decoder,  does the following decodes ;-
mono, stereo, square, rectangle, hexagon , 2 different octagons, cubic

ambi2s~        BFormat to 6 output decoder, specialised to cinema type
surround, partially programmable.

ambimic~      BFormat to 2 output decoder, specialised to stereo coincident
mic outputs, partially programmable.

ambiplane~   BFormat, fully steerable mirror effect

ambiproc~   BFormat, fully steerable rotate/tilt/tumble processor

ambizoom~   BFormat, fully steerable dominance effect


This can be downloaded from http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php . The
..zip file contains ambilib as a Mac OSX .app and a PC .dll . There are also
source and makefiles for both platforms

Derived from the VST plugins, the code is mostly mine but with significant
contributions from various of our Music Technology students. The pd port was
by Matt Paradis.

    Enjoy

          Dave



 
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Sursounders my like to know that our ambilib externals for <a
href="http://www.puredata.info/">pd</a> are now available for both Win32 and
Mac OSX platforms. Ambilib contains the following (first order only) objects;<br>
<br>
ambipan~      two input to Bformat output panner object<br>
<br>
ambidec~       BFormat in pre-set decoder,  does
the following decodes ;- mono, stereo, square, rectangle, hexagon , 2 different
octagons, cubic<br>
<br>
ambi2s~        BFormat to 6 output decoder,
specialised to cinema type surround, partially programmable.<br>
<br>
ambimic~      BFormat to 2 output decoder, specialised to
stereo coincident mic outputs, partially programmable.<br>
<br>
ambiplane~   BFormat, fully steerable mirror effect<br>
<br>
ambiproc~   BFormat, fully steerable rotate/tilt/tumble processor<br>
<br>
ambizoom~   BFormat, fully steerable dominance effect<br>
<br>
<br>
This can be downloaded from <a href="http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php">http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php</a>
.. The .zip file contains ambilib as a Mac OSX .app and a PC .dll . There are
also source and makefiles for both platforms<br>
<br>
Derived from the VST plugins, the code is mostly mine but with significant
contributions from various of our Music Technology students. The pd port was by
Matt Paradis.<br>
<br>
    Enjoy<br>
<br>
          Dave<br>
<br>
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you should also check out the ambiunix system made by the komponent 
people  > http://ambiunix.komponent.dk/
they recently ported the whole system to pd

best, carsten

>Hello all,
>
>I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker
>programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in
>various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd.  The model right now
>involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different
>shapes and clusters.  We are looking to create a sort of "organism"
>structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters
>set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound
>models are of great interest to us.
>
>I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm
>turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound
>artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would
>be good.  Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking
>for references for this project, though technical information would be
>appreciated as well.
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin



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Check out Paris-based Robin Meier. He does a lot of work about
self-organising music.

http://robin.meier.free.fr/

Tobias


Am 6.6.2006 23:11 Uhr schrieb "Kevin McCoy" unter
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> Hello all,
> 
> I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker
> programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in
> various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd.  The model right now
> involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different
> shapes and clusters.  We are looking to create a sort of "organism"
> structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters
> set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound
> models are of great interest to us.
> 
> I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm
> turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound
> artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would
> be good.  Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking
> for references for this project, though technical information would be
> appreciated as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin



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Hello all,

I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker
programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in
various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd.  The model right now
involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different
shapes and clusters.  We are looking to create a sort of "organism"
structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters
set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound
models are of great interest to us.

I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm
turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound
artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would
be good.  Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking
for references for this project, though technical information would be
appreciated as well.

Thanks,
Kevin
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the only projects that are OK to post to this list are ones involving  
the community...if you are proposing a community project please  
please please make it painfully obvious to everyone (especially me)  
so I don't haul off and send you a 'please don't post announcements'  
email? that would help me out a lot...

as a reminder: the announcements list was set up to funnel off all  
promotional content to another place so we could save this as a haven  
for thinking and acting...not adding too much noise with  
announcements of new CD's for sale or concerts coming up...

a large part of the microsound community (as I see it anyway) is  
creating new projects that help build the community...these types of  
projects will be hosted on the microsound web site...these are  
considered microsound projects...

Thomas Ashcraft recently posted a project proposal to the list which  
I mistook for a private project announcement - so I'm publicly  
apologizing and requesting that Thomas repost his project proposal to  
this list so we can hopefully get a new microsound project started...

we have a new microsound project server just sitting there waiting  
for something to happen -- so let's get to it!
:)




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Here's a flash graphic/sound experiment some of you may enjoy:
http://www.allhaildiscordia.com/moraga33.htm

Check it out if you get a chance and send me any feedback you may have.

Juan Carlos
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hey i put some new mp3s up, and i would like some constuctive comments
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First time here, so far east.
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factory berlin is near the treptow bridge,

you can visit ongoing aesthetical discussions here,

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activities, releases, downloads http://emc.yserv.com/103

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