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electronic body music, supposedly coined by Leather Strip's Claus Larsen. kristof lauwers wrote: > >> Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, >> and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. > > > what's ebm? (apart from evidence based medicine) > > > k. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:33:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32143-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21617 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:33:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 21606 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:33:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:29:47 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > Yours, > K > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. On The Daily Show Giuliani said Kerry lectured to the nation. Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:38:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32144-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23281 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:38:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 23270 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:38:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradon Webb <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chicago and time based media In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey Jeff, I just moved to Chicago and also trying to carve a little nook for myself here. I graduated with a visual arts degree in Kansas City, but I mainly do audio work now. I do Some abstract programing, hacking chips, and using software, FLStudio, SoundForge, PD, MSP, whatever I can get my hands on. I do some visuals with Gem which is the 3D render engine using PD. This is a good program if you want to do live improv video as it utilizes the open architecture of object oriented programing, but the tools can be pretty remedial at first. might be your style though. It kind of caters to abstract minimal geometry well. You should e-mail me back if you have more specific questions, or if you know of any good performances, or are performing somewhere or something blah blah. later, Bradon --- Jeffrey Matz <xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > hey all, i'm looking for some chi-town artists, > possibly for collabs or just > disscussions...especially if you're into mixing > micro elements with more organic textures... > > i'm also looking for some software suggestions as > far as mixing video... anybody doing their own > visuals? > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 06:22:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32145-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33834 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:22:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 33824 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:22:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:20 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-03.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-4.9/3.0):. Processed in 0.923448 secs Process 25505) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 1, 2004, at 1:29 AM, andrew jones wrote: >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. I agree completely. Of course the reason Kerry's policies didn't seem much different is because they aren't. They're both pro-war, pro-patriot act, pro-WTO, pro-NAFTA, etc etc etc. All Kerry is basically saying is, "I'd of gone to war, but I'd of kicked more ass." > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an international court. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:04:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32161-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63670 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:04:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 63659 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:04:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:36:09 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an > international court. > > - John > > Good thing Bush is keeping us out of that international court then =) What did Clark do anyway? All these guys have various splotches on their pasts. Peace, A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 06:53:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32146-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40761 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:53:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 40748 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:53:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:55:02 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <l03130300bd822ea186d8@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD824D51.8A33%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 9/30/04 2:49 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: >> Cage was just a faggot folk hero > -In regard to to the question put forward, > I wonder what importance can be attached to > his sexual inclination. -don't know. I see it as a form of socializing in order to win favours. Music was one tool in an arsenal of tricks.He was someone who was good at provoking envy by playing the role of the adventurer , the free man, one who showed the promise and the road to freedom. Although some of his work is very good , thought provoking etc. , to me most of it doesn't really function without the essays , the explanation. This is different than something which might suddenly sound , completely out of context , and function, be understood. He wasn't bad, and he might agree with me that he was someone capable of refreshing my memory in a rudimentary way about what I already know. >> Xenakis a shell-shocked architect who liked to make lots of noise. > -And noise is regarded as an important part of sound. > He was also quite important in defining the usage > of granular synthesis. Yes. Once again I don't see him as being worthless. Through his work he appears to me in the form of someone who connects to the sound environment in the manner of an architect. There is no crime in that , and I don't see him as a lesser being in that respect. I understand music to be the great art form , having its own manner of creating space , buildings , architecture. Even if I accept the definition of music as applied mathematics , there is an intrinsic manner of applying those numbers to sound production. It seems to be a gift some people find at an early age. Granted , it might be buried in almost everyone , even if they don't consider themselves musicians. With Xenakis although his mathematics may be complex and far reaching in a non-musical sense , I am more interested in what is purely musical (since the survey is about musical influence) which is something closer to a direct or immediate expression of emotion through numbers manifested in sound. > >>Stockhausen is a real man, the kind who can rewind a tape recorder and >>still think clearly . >-As long as it concerns himself... > He still thinks that hte Beatles are 'a modern popband'... AvS Interesting that you mention Stockhausen with the Beatles. I remember listening to 'Hymnen' and also 'Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' . Parts of both albums having strong effects on animals (cats mostly) ; scrambling up the walls for instance, where every other record didn't seem to make much of an impression. Anyway , I hope you're having a good day , or whatever you're having . Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 07:36:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32147-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51085 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:36:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 51073 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:36:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:40:21 -0400 From: ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical happenings, and even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied with agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed to say " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of peace " - Glad people listened in - B "andrew jones" wrote: >> >> >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! >> >> Yours, >> K >> > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. > On The Daily Show Giuliani said Kerry lectured to the nation. > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:23:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32142-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 17934 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:24:29 -0700 From: kimberly howie <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In addition to Bell Lab's impact on electronic sound innovations, they also own Lucent Technologies, which is interesting considering the prominence of cell phones and their ring tones holding both social and "compositional" qualities. Cage's expressed excitement in the limitless possibilities of sound when borrowed from environment is appealing. When referred to as "stock sound", I think of Corbis... boring ol' search engine of images that are passe, not exciting. Perhaps this is why only a handful of shows I have seen lately have sparked something personally... There is a passive quality of something similar, some fashion that is being utilized instead of exploring new terrain. Plus, Cage had a light hearted wit that provided a playfulness that is divine. In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! Yours, K While Cage On Sep 30, 2004, at 4:50 PM, ian stewart wrote: > >> I guess for me the impact Cage had, aside from the whole silence >> thing... was his idea that uisng stock sound, much like stock >> photographry and using tape based recording and editing techology, >> one could create compsitons without instruments or musicians in a >> non-liner fashion > > Schaeffer was there first with his Etudes de Bruits in '48. Cage met > up with Schaeffer in Paris in '49, but I don't think he used any > recorded sounds to make a piece until 1952 (although he had used > phonograph test tones on varispeed turntables in the 1939 Imaginary > Landscape no. 1). The German filmmaker Walter Ruttman made a sound > collage to a film strip in 1930 (Weekend) made up of the sounds of > Berlin, but that appears to have been an isolated thing. > > best, > Ian > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 09:32:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32148-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81530 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:32:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 81517 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:32:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:32:02 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:40:21 -0400, ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical happenings, and > even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied with > agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed to say > " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of peace http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/100204Z.shtml --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 09:46:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32149-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85954 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:46:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 85943 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:46:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:48:20 +0100 From: Benjamin Green <x@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [as] october 2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, lowercase-sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2004 09:46:32.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[885DE1C0:01C4A79B] ....as... airs: every SATURDAY midnight 104.4FM [london, uk] live streams: http://www.resonancefm.com other places/times: http://www.worldtimeserver.com contribute: b[at]estsoks.demon.co.uk ......... 02.10.04 Si_COMM & S.E.T.I.: [as] HYPERLANGUAGE A sound environment specially commissioned by Ben Green for transmission on Resonance 104.4 FM. Copyright 2004. Project OVERVIEW: This recording is a commissioned piece designed to thematically relate to the PROBE CD released by VIVO of Poland (www.vivo.pl) in April 2004. After being approached by Ben Green to record a new work, we decided to construct a piece which would compliment these recently released recordings, and further elaborate on some of the themes set down in the sleeve notes for PROBE. PROBE examines the notion of an impending new species of Posthuman beings. These bio-technological entities from our deep future, will bear only the merest trace of their human origins, and will no doubt greatly exceed what we currently understand to be the limits of human performance and intelligence. Far from being a sci-fi fantasists’ dream of transcendence, these theories hint at a very real possibility for the future of mankind. Given that language appears to evolve alongside the great leaps of human cognition and intuition, how might the language of these Posthumans be constructed? What will language become? Language is both a system of communication and an information processing tool. The roots of human language appear to have emerged during a period of information overload. The existing communicative methods of primitive “proto-languages”, a series of semi-coherent vocalisations, social/emotional interaction, and pre-verbal physical gesture used by early Man were “overwritten” in response to an overload, or chaos that arises when the informatic capacity of this previous set of languages could no longer cope, or had reached a new level of complexity. Given that hominids continually acquired new skills, for example- tool making; their lives increased in complexity. The early hominid mind could no longer cope with the richness of it’s life solely on the basis of its perceptual continuum, and language began to take a whole new evolutionary leap. In relation to the human brain, evolution on a biological level has reached its peak ( the head of an infant could only become so big in order to pass through the hips of its mother, and to retain the capacity for mobility – a vital factor for survival) , and after all of the physical mechanisms for increasing intelligence are exhausted, nature has conspired to increase human intelligence by using a technological, rather than biological strategem. We are currently poised on the brink of ever more rapid transitions in technology, and our interaction with it. The human communications landscape is exponentially increasing in volume, speed and capacity, as we strive to reach out into the Universe, and connect with each other in more complex, accelerated ways. To an extent, for the first time, it is We who are being transformed by our technology, and not vice-versa. As we speak, successive generations of young children are being thrust into the fast lane of cutting edge communications technology by their rapid (and somewhat remote) interactions with mobile phones (and the new accelerated language of “texting”). The mass usage of Computer games, and Personal Computers (particularly the World Wide Web), have led to the common utilisation of ever more complex and abbreviated terminologies. The internet in particular is a breeding ground for new language, as knowledge and ideas are transmitted globally at high speed. The Net has its own unique semantics, particularly, hypertext and hyperlinks, which we see as the foundation of a HYPERLANGUAGE – a revolutionary new spoken (if such a term will exist) mode of communication for the deep future. The recording project – HYPERLANGUAGE, is an artistic speculation - an analysis of our potential relationship with highly advanced communications technology in the deep future. Given that tool-making generated a major shift in thinking that led to the foundations of spoken language – it should come as no great surprise that new technologies and cognitive structures (the evolution of the mind), should seed the development of a new kind of universal language – a non- verbal HYPERLANGUAGE that is communicated at vast speed and capacity through rapid transmission systems that will greatly exceed anything we could possibly imagine at present. What we present here is an imaginary switch point at some futuristic information exchange, inhabited by fragments of human vocalisations, hybrids of what we currently understand as language, fused with digital information, and all of the inherent noise that accumulates in an overloaded system. The evolution of a new form of language, its trajectories and impact from a psychological, developmental, emotional, and educational perspective are deeply interesting to us. Please submit comments and feedback to the Lagowski blog: www.lagowski.com www.ecm323.co.uk www.vivo.pl Si_COMM updates at the blog: http://sicomm.blogspot.com ......... 09.10.04 Dale Lloyd: one hour as air pressure variations from a doorway/one hour as volatile & fixed principles air pressure variations from a doorway: I recorded two performances of air pressure manipulations using only a wooden door to maniplulate the tones. Very slight movements were required to capture some of the subtle nuances and overtones. The recordings themselves are not manipulated or processed. Aside from the air pressure tones themselves, there are also incidental sounds which come from the hallway outside the door, from a room upstairs, from a nearby refrigerator in very close proximity, and on the second recording of the two, I had mailing tape holding the door lock open, which was gradually coming unstuck, that made occasional high click sounds. On the first of the two recordings, I used duct tape, hence the lack of such sounds. volatile and fixed principles (excerpt): This is a segment from an upcoming release with the leeraum collective in Switzerland. The entire work was created using various kinds of metal objects, environmental recordings, and electronic sound sources. http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html http://www.leerraum.ch ......... 16.10.04 [no show] ......... 23.10.04 anték vvon cunt: one hour as fürv O que e um prato nacional? Pergunto-me e responda pela voz de Fialho de Almeida: <<Uma composicao culinaria rebele a escrita dos manuais, caracteristica, inconfudivel. (...) Transmite-se por tradicao; os estrangeiros nao sabem confecciona-lo, mesmo naturalizados; tendo chegado ate nos por processos lentos, e contrapovras de bilioes de experimentadores, sucessivamente interessados em fixar na sua forma irrepreensivel, resulta ser ele sempre uma coisa eminemtemente sapida e sadia. (...) 0 prata nacional e, como o romanceiro nacional, um produto de genio colectivo: ninguem o inventou e inventaram-no todos.>> (in Jose Quiterio, Livro de Bem Comer) http://66.225.223.75/furv/ ......... ....as... 2cdr 28 tracks on two cdrs. contributors: REIKO.A, joe colley, jason lescalleet, tetuzi akiyama, AMT, DSM, christophe charles, brendan walls, loren chasse, yannick dauby, kozo inada, rudolf eb.er, bruce russell, steve roden, kuwayama kiyoharu, seth nehil, stefan roigk, eric la casa, michael j. schumacher, david maranha, zbigniew karkowski, matt shoemaker, RLW, achim wollscheid, alexandre st-onge, utah kawasaki, christof migone,yasunao tone/mark fell. come wrapped in uniquely designed wax-proof paper. buy online: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php donate: http://www.resonancefm.com/support.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 10:17:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32150-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94816 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:17:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 94797 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:17:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:12:53 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002401c4a79f$37b405c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD818979.8A0A%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bill; > Stockhausen is a real man, the kind who can rewind a tape recorder and > still think clearly . What do you mean "still"? I think there are great benefits in the compositional process to rewinding taperecorders. There will be no sound for a minute or so while it rewinds and you get to calmly think things over before the sound starts again. When working with the big ones (2" 16 track) you get to doubt wether you hit "rtz" as you should´ve or wether you just hit rewind. If you hit "rtz" it´ll slow down at the last possible moment then gently stop at "0", if you hit rewind then the big motor will pull the tape loose from the reel and stuff might fly around the room. The elders of the tribe have scars on their thumbs from such occasions and you don´t want those so you keep a respectfull distance. It´s a break from the process that unlike coffee or cigs forces a quiet period and unless you try to grab the reel it´s less damaging to your health too. I like it. Let´s hear it for the zen-like qualities of rewinding taperecorders, the oldschool equivalent of hitting "render". So there. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 10:40:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32151-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2795 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:39:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 2785 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:39:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 143 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In a message dated 30/9/04 8:01:36 pm, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: >Max Matthews is da man. I wholeheartedly concur. But what about Risset (as someone else has pointed out), and if we are to include Cage, then what about Varese? What about Messian? Eno and Autechre ...come on! Influential they may well be (and I am a big fan of them both) But surely influenced by others themselves..where are those others? Electronic music in film is a poorly recognized factor here (and one that precedes both eno and autechre in terms of popular culture)...what about the Barrons (Forbidden Planet)? Nice that we are having a good natured dialogue though. Regards rob ::_______________________________________:: --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 13:13:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32152-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43641 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:13:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 43631 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:13:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:13:41 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:22:20 -0400, John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2004, at 1:29 AM, andrew jones wrote: > > >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. He isn't "remarkably" different. He really can't be since anything sold to the American voter is going to have to be couched under the unquestionability of the "war on terror." But if Bush appeared "humane" it was only because Kerry was pretty well slaughtering him on just about any factual point regarding the war in Iraq. If Kerry appeared "cold and stern," it was because of the somber reality of that war, which is an issue he appears finally willing to address. > I agree completely. Of course the reason Kerry's policies didn't seem > much different is because they aren't. They're both pro-war, > pro-patriot act, pro-WTO, pro-NAFTA, etc etc etc. All Kerry is > basically saying is, "I'd of gone to war, but I'd of kicked more ass." Basically right. But Kerry's position is really that he wants his imperialism to be more multilateral so that the US doesn't have to bear all the cost--bigger, better coalitions, in other words. > > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an international > court. I'd throw Bush in one too. Any cool Microsound music engaging the current politics these days, or are we still deluding ourselves (self-servingly, of course) into thinking that the two are separate spheres? What's Beta Bodega up to or what happened to Ultra Red? I'd like to be giving more of my music budget to musicians who are tackling more than just music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 13:41:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32153-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52394 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:41:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 52382 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:41:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] (OT)...but close to all our hearts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this just in, Judge Rules Against Patriot Act Provision U.S. District Judge Victor Marreo ruled in favor of the American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged the power the FBI has to demand confidential financial records from companies as part of terrorism investigations. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040929_295.html and this, Sony ditches copy-control CDs http://www.engadget.com/entry/3586262161659249/ Enjoy, PoM:A _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Fri Oct 1 14:30:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32154-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70167 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:30:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 70157 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:30:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:30:44 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] p2p To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c4a7c3$3fdf32f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD818979.8A0A%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <002401c4a79f$37b405c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would like to share some audio works of mine on the edonkey and overnet p2p networks, I've already encoded the tracks, prepared the playlists etc... Unfortunately, at the present time I'm still on a dialup connection, no adsl here yet. I was wondering if somebody on the list have a box connected to the edonkey network 24/7, I'd love to send him/her a couple of cdrs. Feel free to reply offlist. Thanks, ale*** --- http://www.pachinkostudio.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:11:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32155-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83510 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:11:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 81393 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:06:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:06:20 +0300 From: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [advertisement] Zeromoon sale - Alexei Borisov, Francisco Lopez, Kim Cascone, Scanner, Radian, Freiband ... X-Originating-IP: 172.16.20.2 via proxy gt3.firmatmm.com.ua [193.201.27.41] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi friends i thought it would be interesting for some of you. =================================== Sale on Zeromoon records http://www.zeromoon.com We are having a sale: ALL CDs are $6.00, 5" cdrs are $5.00 each. Exciting releases by Normal Music, Andrey Kiritchenko, Ultra Milkmaids, Kotra, Alexei Borisov, Anton Nikkila, Violet, and compilations with Francisco Lopez, Kim Cascone, Scanner, Radian, Maja Ratkje, Jacob Kirkegaard, Dead Letters, Rechord, Freiband and many more. Check out the catalogue for info. http://www.zeromoon.com ======================================== - - - all the best, Kotra http://kotra.org.ua http://nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:32:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32156-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93727 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:32:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 93717 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:32:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:27:29 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100535bd8325a6df40@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 11:50 PM +0000 9/30/04, ian stewart wrote: >Cage met up with Schaeffer in Paris in '49, but I don't think he >used any recorded sounds to make a piece until 1952 Williams Mix was created during 1952-53. Many of the sound sources were taken from sound effects records. The structure and process of the composition were based on chance operations. It was an eight channel piece, initially with eight mono tapes played on eight separate tape decks. Many of the source materials were manipulated according to basic musique concrete procedures, though most seem to be unaltered. The primary technical procedure in composing the tapes was splicing. Amplitude envelopes were created by using various lengths of diagonal splices. Many of the sound segments were quite short, so that some passages are certainly "micro" in their sonic structure. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:53:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32157-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1652 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:53:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 1642 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:53:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:52:50 +0000 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] just an FYI In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a0610050bbd832c4bb9e9@[10.1.32.51]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey micro people It just occured to me to share a small resource that came out of the Overgaden Sound Art Festival that I co-curated with my friend Björn Ross in Copenhagen, Denmark during August. We included work from around 100 artists, some who are on the micro list, with some great live performances from about 30 acts. Following is a link to a directory of participants, and it's a good jumping-off point to explore their sites -- with the good possibility of finding something inspiring... http://soundartfestival.dk/artists.html The festival was a good success, and there are tentative plans to run it again next year or the year after. Although there was little print-media coverage, Danish radio made several programs and there was always a nice crowd for events... enjoy! cheers John -- -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ tech-no-mad::hypnostatic:: Akureyri, Iceland for a few eons domain: http://neoscenes.net travelog: http://neoscenes.net/travelog/weblog.php NEW EMAIL: <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 16:25:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32158-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13008 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:23:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 12992 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:23:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:23:43 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline server To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx OK so the hotline server now seems to be behaving and I found a client for MacOS X that allows me to do admin stuff (ala the Hotline client by BigRedH)... - here is my schedule: - I'm gone as of tomorrow for 1 week and don't know what sort of access to the internet I'll have so... - I'll be back in SF on the 9th and will be home for one week - I can assign passwords to those who want them at that point - then on the 18th I'm back in the EU for 4 weeks and will have reliable internet access for the first couple of weeks -- in summary: if you want a password it's best to email me next week and request one... email me OFF LIST if you want one!!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 17:37:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32159-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49481 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:37:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 49458 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:37:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:38:09 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] netaudio notstandskomitee on sunday To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx notstandsnacht at radio2b.org, a streaming webradio. starting on sunday, 3.october at 19:00 cest with live set 20:00 cest 13 years of Notstandskomitee, music from rare tapes and cds all inclusive industrial, electronica and powerelectronics till open end http://www.radio2b.org http://www.radio2b.org:8000/listen.pls --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 17:48:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32160-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56746 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:48:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 56731 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:48:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:48:30 +0200 From: Ignaz Schick <xxxxx_xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Staalplaat Store X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0602040bbd8342fa1a44@[192.168.1.223]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #665375 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Staalplaat Store is finally open, Staalplaat Torstr. 72 D-10119 Berlin U2 Rosa Luxemburgplatz Opening Hours Thuesday until Saturday, 14:00-19:00 http://www.staalplaat.com You don't have to call it music if the term shocks you --Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:23:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32162-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72323 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:23:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 72125 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:23:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:20:07 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, It's not his fault he lacks the gene for public speaking =) Peace, A On Oct 1, 2004, at 3:40 AM, ben owen wrote: > Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical > happenings, and > even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied > with > agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed > to say > " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of > peace > " - > > Glad people listened in - > > B --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:39:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32163-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79516 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:39:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 79506 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:39:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:38:35 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2004 18:39:00.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB333E90:01C4A7E5] I bet Bush is keeping us out of international court because he knows he would be tried for unlawfully invading Iraq. Scott >Good thing Bush is keeping us out of that international court then >=) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:45:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32164-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83600 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:45:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 83590 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:45:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:13 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Urban Noise Panel at Hunter NYC To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-07C89C7313DA11D9B0AE000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx See you all there! ====== Forwarded Message ====== Date: 9/30/04 11:57 AM Received: 9/30/04 11:57 AM -0400 Hello, I'm moderating this panel at Hunter. Looks like we have a fantastic group; anyone interested in the cultural history of noise and sound, sound's policy and ecology implications, and sound art or noise-influenced music will definitely want to attend! We also welcome faculty and students to participate in the acoustic ecology group now meeting monthly at Hunter to examine these issues. Best, Peter Kirn URBAN NOISE / a discussion on noise, sound, music & the urban experience Wednesday, October 6, 2004 Lang Recital Hall at Hunter College 6:00 PM: Opening remarks and listening 6:30 PM: Panel, followed by audience Q&A http://fm.hunter.cuny.edu/nysae Five panelists share and debate diverse viewpoints on the situation of noise, not-noise, environmental sound and the sonic arts as they exist in the contemporary urban environment. Panelists will discuss a range of topics, including NYC's recent revisions to the noise code, Acoustic Ecology as an emerging global movement, sound's role in defining urban culture and the design of acoustic space in city environments. Moderated by Hunter College Music Department faculty member Peter Kirn. Introductory remarks by Andrea Polli and Michelle Nagai. PANELISTS INCLUDE: Nigel Frayne: Sound Designer, President World Forum for Acoustic Ecology Dr. Arline Bronzaft, PhD.: Consultant, Researcher & Chairperson, Mayor's Council on the Environment, Noise Committee Grey Filastine: Producer, Sonarchist & Member of the Infernal Noise Brigade Phillip Baldwin: Cultural Historian, Designer & Scenographer, SUNY Stonybrook Steven Miller: Composer & Educator, the American Society for Acoustic Ecology Sponsored by the NY Society for Acoustic Ecology and the Film & Media Department of Hunter College. DIRECTIONS: The Lang Recital Hall is located on the fourth floor of Hunter North, 695 Park Avenue. Entrance to Hunter North is on 68th Street, between Lexington and Park Avenues. By Subway The #6 train stops directly under the College at the 68th Street Stop. Room 430, Fourth Floor Hunter North Enter the North Building at the 68th street entrance (between Park and Lexington Avenues). Take the elevators to the fourth floor. Make a left to the double doors. Make a right and then another left. Room 430 is straight ahead. ====== End Forwarded Message ====== <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:50:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32165-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86268 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:50:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 86250 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:50:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:03 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Anyone read modern Greek? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx-xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B4CE31B213DA11D9B0AE000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi: For an essay I'm working on about Iannis Xenakis, anyone interested in doing a small amount of Greek translation (although probably not Xenakis himself)? I'd be happy to compensate, but as an impoverished graduate student, I can't offer what the United Nations does in terms of payscale. If you're in Athens, that would be extremely valuable. Reply off-list, thanks. Best, Tad Turner <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 01:43:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32166-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34025 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 01:42:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 34012 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 01:42:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Seeking musicians: San Francisco Found Objects Festival In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey everyone, I'm putting together the 3rd Annual San Francisco Found Objects Festival, and am looking for 2 or 3 more musicians to create music using only sounds from household objects submitted by the audience. If you're interested, please read the info below. General: The dates are Thursday and Friday, November 4th and 5th in San Francisco. Venues are the Luggage Store Gallery (thursday) and 964 Natoma (friday). Set time is 20 minutes per performer/group. (That'll make more sense when you read the rest.) There's no payment guarantee or anything. Artists will get an even share of the door after the venue takes its fee. The challenge: All the sounds used in your set must be generated from an object that was submitted by an audience member. Musicians are allowed to bring any equipment to MODIFY sounds, including bows, malletts, laptop computers, samplers and effects. You can't use guitars, drums, voice, etc, unless it's the sound of the found object that we're hearing. (For example, using a spring as a prepared guitar implement is not allowed, but using a guitar as a midi device to control samples of a spring is allowed.) The objects submitted by the audience will be placed in a loose mess around the performance area. During your set, you're free to pick up and use any of the objects you feel are appropriate for what you're doing. All the acts in the night will be working from the same pool of objects. I try to book a variety of musical styles in each night though, so different acts will use different objects, or the same objects differently. In order to keep the event on schedule, we ask the artists to have their equipment set-up before the show starts. Anyway, if you're interested, please email me off-list. Right now we're only looking for 2 or 3 people, but we keep "extra" folks in mind for future installments. Matt Davignon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 04:39:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32167-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75751 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:39:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 75739 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:39:07 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:39:01 +0200 From: IMPOSTURAS <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] software To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi people I´m looking for experimetal audio software special glitch music(for PC) Recomendated please. Thanks in advance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 04:52:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32168-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79030 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:52:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 79019 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:52:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: ID this? "mysti-cat, sophisti-cat, aristo-cat..." In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey folks, Sorry for the OT posting, but my ear was virusized at Burning Man by a groovy electronica mid-tempo lounge track with a perpetually mutating vocal line as described in the subject line. Any idea what this might be? Trusting to crossover interests of .m listers... Btw if you know what it is, do you know what genre it is? I heard a fair amount of stuff that was obviously in the same style but I'm woefully ignorant of current sub-sub-genre proliferation in dance music... :/ best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 11:33:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32169-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53465 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:33:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 53451 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:33:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:29:19 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] software To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx IMPOSTURAS didst pen: >>I´m looking for experimetal audio software special glitch music(for PC) not sure what exactly you mean by experimental? should the software be experimental, or should it be software for sound-experiments?.. anyway, assuming the last and given that quite a few of these fall into the first categorie just as well: there is a whole section devoted to open source programs on the microsound wiki http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/OpenSourceSoftware pd, cecilia and csound would be my personal recommendations from the list. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html here is an installer compiled featuring most externals. more nice programs, including granulab and audiomulch (wicked) are on the granulator-wiki page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/GranuLator not free/open source but also great programs are: maxmsp, reaktor, vaz-modular (the last being a "geheimtip")... http://www.smartelectronix.com/ has heaps of experimental vst plugins you can use within your daw, but also audiomulch, vazmod, and more... http://www.plogue.com/ bidule from plogue is similar to pd/max, but less sophisticated (thus easier to learn.... i would recommend to try (the free beta), if you have no experience with modular systems... i have used this to sketch ideas for pd patches in the past, i.e. http://www.webcenter.ru/%7Evsoft/BitmapPlayer.htm this was only posted to this list recently - wav/bmp/wav conversion, and links to 3 other tools. in a similar vain you could also check out coagula: http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Coagula.htm http://www.ixi-software.net/ (do people use these´?) these guys have various funny progs. personally however i never managed to get much out of them, some wouldn't even work.... ok, guess there is more. i know of some very long link-lists existing, couldn't dig them up atm though.... have fun, create and pro.. ah forget the last, hidari °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 13:02:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32170-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72047 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:02:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72037 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:02:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OT: ID this? "mysti-cat, sophisti-cat, aristo-cat..." In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Aaron, I believe that those words are from a track off the last Outkast album The Love Below not speakerboxx. Don't know the track name but the track comes after one of their cleaver interludes...something about "the fiddler on the MF'ing roof" then the track starts "A Lady, A Lady"....BTW there is also a very, I think, interesting cover of My Favorite Things on the same album. If you want I'd be glad to email a mp3 of said track when I dig up my copy. PoM:A _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 16:56:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32171-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24160 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:56:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 24149 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:56:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:55:54 -0400 From: Ben Neill <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> Cage was just a faggot folk hero That was an appalling comment, really surprising to hear that kind of thing on this list. John Cage is one of the most important artists of the last century hands down. His influence extends way beyond the fairly narrow world of electronic music. >> I thought Bush came across as humane while >> Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really >> show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. I guess the right wing's crusade has infiltrated a lot further than I thought. What's next, Christian electronica? Ben Neill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 17:56:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32172-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37369 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 37357 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] TWiki down? X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, is the TWiki down? I get a "connection refused" error. P "TWikis in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 18:47:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32173-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51537 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:47:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 51527 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:47:03 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:46:09 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2004 18:47:00.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[33B92A60:01C4A8B0] I agree, Cage gets slammed a lot on this list. His influence extends much further than electronic music, he influenced and still influences the worlds of painting, sculpture, poetry, graphic design, performance art, sound art, music, not to mention he was the first western to go into the soviet union during the cold war to give a talk about mushrooms (even the soviets loved him). Cage really worked to remove the ego as much as possible from art making, mostly through the use of chance operations. His contribution to western artseems the introduction of chance into art making and intentional removal of ego. I would hardly consider him a folk hero, that's simply an ignorant statement, Cage was educated and a pivotal figure in the modern and post modern art movements (read some of Calvin Tomkins books to learn more). Cage provided alternatives to how we listen to sound and developed creative performative structures, not just new toys to make sound with, he also presented the phonograph cartridge as a musical instrument and thus created live electronic music. From liner notes to Fontana Mix - Feed - Max Neuhaus/six realizations of John Cage - Alga marghen - "Electronic music-making was, in fact, confined to a studio where tape recordings were made and manipulated. These were then supposed to be played back to an audience sitting in a concert hall watching two loudspeakers. Except for Cage's performances with phonograph cartridges, live electronic music did not exist." Scott Allison >>>Cage was just a faggot folk hero > >That was an appalling comment, really surprising to hear that kind >of thing on this list. John Cage is one of the most important >artists of the last century hands down. His influence extends way >beyond the fairly narrow world of electronic music. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 19:15:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32174-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63654 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 63265 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:15:28 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd84aa769d2f@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I agree, Cage gets slammed a lot on this list. -I don't understand why Cage the composer and Cage the writer/philosopher can't be judged separately. When people are active both as artists and theoretical writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. Theories often sound very inspirational, but make lousy art. As much as great art is often lousy theory. >Cage provided alternatives to how we listen to sound and developed creative >performative structures, not just new toys to make sound with, he also >presented the phonograph cartridge as a musical instrument and thus created >live electronic music. -For the development of live electronic music has been very important. The current laptop performance-warriors own a lot to him. He also started much earlier with it than Stockhausen. >Cage was just a faggot folk hero -I never understood what this had to do with his music, in the first place. Secondly, I don't think it's anyone's bloody business. Too much emphasis is placed on this. Also in the political world in the USA and also in the UK, if your inclination is of what Cage was accused of, you are deemed to be unfit to be government. To what reason is never told. Just accusations. 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Sat Oct 2 20:40:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32175-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84227 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:40:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 84216 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:40:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:39:16 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2004 20:40:01.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD1ECA90:01C4A8BF] >-I don't understand why Cage the composer and Cage the > writer/philosopher can't be judged separately. I am sure you could judge them separately, might be a good topic for a book, don't wait for someone else to do it. More perspectives are better than less perspectives. > When people are active both as artists and theoretical > writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. Examples? > Theories often sound very inspirational, but make > lousy art. As much as great art is often lousy theory. True, often performances come out being lousy other times successful (regardless of whoever it is doing truly live electronic music, (there was a long thread discussing what might constitute live electronic music recently on this list, in Cages example I think he fits into the performance side, all sound making being generated in real time, and as a result sometimes a performance is successful, other times awful, chance has a hand in the matter as the composition takes place in the moment, although Cage did create performance strategies... of which seem to influence the work of people like Steve Roden for a contemporary relationship, he talks about using strategies in most of his work, doesn't mean his work is always good). Cage seemed more interested in the results of the information derived from chance operations (again read Tomkins), the whole idea being that you might discover something that you/your ego would have never made and thus informing new ideas/solutions. Often times this practice results in (for better or worse - loose connections or entropic noise, but it can also provide for new ideas and new relationships in meaning). Saying Cage made lousy art is to general of a statement, (not to suggest that your statement is saying he made lousy art,it seems you are speaking in more general terms here.) (but one needs to be really specific if saying Cage made lousy art, he produced work in so many fields, are we referring to his sound work (which recording/performance in particular, and by what system are we using to say its lousy?), or maybe the rock paintings he did as artist in residence VA tech (which are considered stunning and highly sought after), artistic judgment can also depend on what sort of cultural filter we look/hear through, sure Cage would be lousy to someone expecting to hear electornica like Autechre (based on a cannon of beats and lush melodies), and look what happened to Autechre when they released Confield (mostly beatless noise), the AE fan base hated it, does that make them Lousy artists? No. Artists are allowed to make things people might not like, I commend that action, because that shows someone is willing to take a risk and do something that might not be accepted or considered popular, also helps to keeps life fresh. 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Sat Oct 2 21:49:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32176-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1803 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:49:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 1793 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:49:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? or... is there a piece of sotware that can do as much (or more) than a hardware c. path in real time? that will be nice. than you in advance:) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 21:56:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32177-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4254 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 4223 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:56:27 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd84cd3b37f6@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > More perspectives are better than less perspectives. -I agree fully. To what extent it's likely, is another matter. Simplifications or dumbing, is often more appreciated. >When people are active both as artists and theoretical >writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. >Examples? -I was actually thinking about Henry & Schaeffer in their statements about musique concrete, but also about Meyer-Eppler at the WDR-Studio in Koln, Germany. In both cases, statements were made that the new electronic means would make acousticial instruments unimportant. Now you can view these statements in the light of their content or in the light of the revolutionary elan that was taking place just after the Second World War in Europe, which basically ruined its cultural life. I'm inclined to do both. >True, often performances come out being lousy other times successful >(regardless of whoever it is doing truly live electronic music, (there was a >long thread discussing what might constitute live electronic music recently >on this list, in Cages example I think he fits into the performance side, >all sound making being generated in real time, and as a result sometimes a >performance is successful, other times awful, chance has a hand in the >matter as the composition takes place in the moment, although Cage did >create performance strategies... of which seem to influence the work of >people like Steve Roden for a contemporary relationship, he talks about >using strategies in most of his work, doesn't mean his work is always good). -If you are adressing here the level of quality of live electronic music concerts, I think rehearsing and decent preparation can overcome a lot of the 'awfullness' you are referring to. To what extent 'live' is important is open for discussion >Cage seemed more interested in the results of the information derived from >chance operations (again read Tomkins), -As any good composer would be. Think Xenakis was kind of similar. >the whole idea being that you might >discover something that you/your ego would have never made and thus >informing new ideas/solutions. -Which is a very succesfull method indeed. >Often times this practice results in (for >better or worse - loose connections or entropic noise, >but it can also provide for new ideas and new relationships in meaning). -Depends on the interpretations and the needs. >Saying Cage made lousy art is to general of a statement, >(not to suggest >that your statement is saying he made lousy art,it seems you are speaking in >more general terms here.) (but one needs to be really specific if saying >Cage made lousy art, he produced work in so many fields, are we referring to >his sound work (which recording/performance in particular, and by what >system are we using to say its lousy?), or maybe the rock paintings he did >as artist in residence VA tech (which are considered stunning and highly >sought after), -I actually quite like the works of the composer Cage; i also think he's a good writer in any sense of the word. >artistic judgment can also depend on what sort of cultural filter >we look/hear through, -Intriguing question is, how wide or limited should this filter be? >Artists are allowed to make things people might not like, I >commend that action, because that shows someone is willing to take a risk >and do something that might not be accepted or considered popular, -There are only instincts to follow, whether the supposed audience likes it or not. >also helps to keeps life fresh. -Which is the best way to sabotage presumption... 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Sat Oct 2 22:12:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32178-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9299 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 9288 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:05:14 -0400 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD849E5A.297E%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? err...do you mean a korg kaoss pad ? not sure of any software that does the same, but i'd highly recommend the hardware. cheap & fun...should be available from any of yer usual online retilers, or ebay, for that matter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 22:12:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32179-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10156 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 10146 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:17 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx do you mean Kaos Pad? On Oct 2, 2004, at 5:49 PM, alkzan wrote: > > > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? > > or... is there a piece of sotware that can > do as much (or more) than a hardware c. path > in real time? that will be nice. > > than you in advance:) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 22:23:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32180-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13288 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:23:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 13278 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:23:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:21:08 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>a chaos path read the tao te king ...:) hidari °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:08:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32181-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62087 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:08:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 62074 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:08:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:36 -0400 From: Peter Becker <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Ebay f/a To: Microsound List <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD84D764.2EE7%xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A friend put up some quality microsound-y CDs, mostly older. Nice group of stuff, second 1/2 of the list. http://tinyurl.com/3sxp4 Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:38:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32182-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69862 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:38:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 69851 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:38:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello microsounders, I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the desired specific control I am looking for. My method now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I can play with that somewhat, although the technique is not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am looking for any advice really on this matter. Thank you, d. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:55:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32183-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74006 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:55:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 73996 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:55:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:58:20 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx have you tried the great buffer override plug-in located here: http://www.smartelectronix.com/~destroyfx/ i love that thing. i run everything through it. everything. some great results. g. Verlorene_Ursache wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 03:23:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32184-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79637 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 79627 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I assume you've tried bufferoverride from destroyfx? skidder works well too. What other vst's have you come across that cause butter stuffer? I mean buffer stutter? I always do it the brute force way: run a java applet in Mozilla Firefox, maybe another one in Mozilla, install and compile a program using Fink and then use beta software like audacity with a few too many tracks. stutter city. Does this not create the desire you want? P > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. "Sound cards in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 04:48:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32185-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 597 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:48:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 587 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:48:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <BD849E5A.297E%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ys a kaosschaotik fking path pad! tnks i might trt it zoon. --- michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? > > err...do you mean a korg kaoss pad ? > > not sure of any software that does the same, but i'd > highly recommend the > hardware. cheap & fun...should be available from any > of yer usual online > retilers, or ebay, for that matter. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 05:35:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32187-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14144 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:35:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 14128 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:35:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:39:10 -0400 From: ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8508BE.2AB0%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Or try spongefork - "th_ost" wrote: >>> a chaos path > > read the tao te king ...:) > > > hidari > > > °°° > th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer > acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego > > http://www.tomoroh.com/ > http://www.stiege44.com/ > http://www.skug.at/ > >>> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, > representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a > standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. > made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets > wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but > no banjos.... > °°°°° > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 05:06:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32186-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6956 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:06:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 6944 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:06:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:00:14 +0200 From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-Authenticated: #12624905 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone tried circuit bending a sound interface? On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 19:10:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32206-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98256 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:10:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 98244 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:10:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:41:10 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004101c4a91c$5cc4db40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anthony Saunders write; > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. I went with my real first name (Kassen) for a couple of reasons. First of all, since I experience my own music as a fairly personal affair it makes sense to not "hide" and sign it with my real name. Secondly, since I simply have that name, nobody can suddenly jump up for copyright infringement or whatever. The cooler your chosen name, the larger the chance that somebody else already thought it was cool, you might have to change it, etc, or so I figured. Admittedly having a somewhat rare name helps a lot there which is mostly a matter of luck. Because of label politics and the occasional urge to jump styles I might need a second name some time in the future so I´ll be following this discussion with interest. Yours, Kas. 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Sun Oct 3 07:58:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32188-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46487 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:58:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 46477 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:58:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:10:51 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] audio USB To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cGdt2OrYsrAIF3diWRqb2A)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cGdt2OrYsrAIF3diWRqb2A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello list ! i know it has been posted many times but i'm still looking for a good audio/usb soundcard for my pc. some of you use it ? any idea, advice ? thanks for your attention. pyo. -- :. . xxx@xxxx.xx : . . . :~. :|.6 . / ; http://pyo.free.fr- k . 32 . . :~. http://pyo.workgroup.free.fr .- [ e | ° -- : . . .,. 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Sun Oct 3 09:21:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32189-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66367 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:21:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 66354 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:21:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: DreamHost Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The FM chips from old soundblasters would probably be similar to the chips in Casio keyboards of the same vintage. > Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone > tried circuit bending a sound interface? > > On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Verlorene_Ursache > <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> Hello microsounders, >> >> I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice >> concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard >> hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to >> provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the >> desired specific control I am looking for. My method >> now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the >> puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I >> can play with that somewhat, although the technique is >> not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being >> altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am >> looking for any advice really on this matter. >> >> Thank you, >> >> d. >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 10:46:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32190-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 06:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 06:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85393 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:46:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 85380 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:46:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:46:52 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio USB In-reply-to: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello imo you have to check m-audio website, very good usb and firewire soundcards, not much expensive..... have good times www.smbp.it Il giorno 03/ott/04, alle 10:10, pyo.p ha scritto: > hello list ! > i know it has been posted many times but i'm still looking for a good > audio/usb soundcard for my pc. > some of you use it ? any idea, advice ? > thanks for your attention. > pyo. > -- > :. . xxx@xxxx.xx : . . . :~. :|.6 . / ; http://pyo.free.fr- k . 32 . > . :~. > http://pyo.workgroup.free.fr .- [ e | ° -- : . . .,. 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Sun Oct 3 11:55:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32191-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95875 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:48:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 95722 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:48:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:24 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis Playlist - 19/9/04 (Fallt Publishing) To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIIECBDCAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Symbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms [Headphones recommended] 12am - 2am Sunday nights (2pm - 4pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi all, Back to the studio after a refreshing week off... hope you've all been well. The great news is that Symbiosis is presenting Greg Davis' show in Melbourne.. His new record, 'Somnia', arrived this week (out Oct 18th) and it showcases a different side of his musical output. This one is all about tones and drones... very nice stuff. So if you're in Melbourne I hope you can make it down to the show (see below for details). Tonight on the show, City Frequencies join me to chat about their new 6.1 surround installation. 'Cafe Voyeur' takes place as part of Melbourne Fringe Festival (see: http://www.akm.net.au/cityfreqs/cv.htm) from this Thursday 7th October. Matt and Nick will be performing live on Symbiosis tonight and will utilise the large sound back that they amassed during their original excursion to Kent St Cafe in July. In the coming weeks... 10/10: Dallas Simpson chats about his binaural recordings and the intentions of his location-specific recordings. Have your headphones out for this one - Dallas has very kindly sent across some of his 'Adoration of Willow' series. I have chosen the piece from Kneeton which he describes as follows: "In Kneeton, there is a long, approximately 8 minute walk-in, with quiet natural ambience and footsteps. The snapping sounds are from dead twigs probably stripped from the trees during winds. In Kneeton, much of the improvisation related to the fact that the trees were distorted and dying due to the fact that the river had beed diverted some 50 years previously and the willows no longer inhabited the bank. The ditch alongside the trees, formerly the river bed, occasionally fills with water after rain, which was the case on this occasion. The half decayed hulls of the trunks and dead branches offered wonderfully subtle resonances." In the pipeline: Listening to the Mind concert, Anthony Guerra, Sijis Records, Taalem Records, Steve Law, Ian Andrews, Mike Hallenbeck Upcoming events... 13/10: Symbiosis presents... Greg Davis (USA) Qua and friends Ai Yamamoto DJ: Simon Hampson Bourgie, 397 Lt Lonsdale St, Melbourne (got a show to list? let me know...) Until next week, Simon. now playing: Ontayso / Sense / Tim Koch - Where have you been? What have you done? And Why? (U-Cover) now watching: Teen Wolf -------------------------------------------- Show Date: 19/9/04 Guests/Features: The September label feature takes a look at Fallt publishing (http://www.fallt.com/). Fallt formed in the late 90s and their world empire beams its transmissions from the unlikely place of Hillsborough, N. Ireland! Christopher Murphy has a chat with me about the past and future of the label, online music and more... Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label (all releases on Fallt - P = physical release/o = online) Si-cut.db :: slavic :: Offices At Night [Vol 1 - originals] :: P Hard Sleeper :: land :: live @ rausch 5/11/02 :: P Alejandra & Aeron :: Empire 01 :: Empire (Xmas Gift 2003) :: o Ian Andrews :: assistance :: Offices At Night [Vol 2 - vol 1] :: (upcoming o&P release) Christopher Willits :: no gasoline :: Pollen :: P Invalid Object (http://www.fallt.com/invalidObject/) mix: Pita Scanner Cray Taylor Deupree Rsundin Kim Cascone Junior Varsity Steve Roden Warmdesk V/Vm eM Stephan Mathieu Eloy Anzola Goem Ekkehard Ehlers Richard Chartier Massimo Akira Rabelais Invisible Cities (http://www.fallt.com/invisiblecities/) mix: Beijing Sound Unit - Beijing Danylo & Mass - Naples Lawrence English - Brisbane Frans de Waard - Nijmegen Gregory Cowley - Marrakesh Ian Andrews :: recursive toupee :: Ceremonial :: Ferric Series (P) Tu M' :: nervous breakdown :: Pop Involved [Ver 3.0] :: Ferric Series (P) Camp :: it's the same thing over and over! :: Fodder :: o Dat Politics :: rag :: Fodder :: o Ted Sulkowicz :: kolc :: Fodder :: o Slub :: 20010203 (folded) :: Fodder :: o Komet +/vs. Bovine Life :: behind :: Reciprocess Vol 1 :: o Si-cut.db + Full Swing +/vs. Stephan Mathieu + Douglas Benford :: octavia.drive :: Reciprocess Vol 2 :: o Sebastian Roux :: constance :: Offices At Night [Volume 2 - vol 1] :: (upcoming o&P release) Mikael Stavostrand :: fallt 2 :: untitled upcoming P release -- Links from this week's show: All content: http://www.fallt.com/ ----------------------- To Unsubscribe [ xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ] from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 12:15:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32192-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2788 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:15:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 2777 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:15:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:15:20 -0300 (ART) From: Zusammen Hangslos <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit when you're running fruityloops 3 and you get a memory overload there are good noises from the patterns you've created. Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:I assume you've tried bufferoverride from destroyfx? skidder works well too. What other vst's have you come across that cause butter stuffer? I mean buffer stutter? I always do it the brute force way: run a java applet in Mozilla Firefox, maybe another one in Mozilla, install and compile a program using Fink and then use beta software like audacity with a few too many tracks. stutter city. Does this not create the desire you want? P > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! --Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA)-- From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 13:36:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32193-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17493 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:36:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 17482 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:36:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:36:19 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] human voice range To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list, is that correct that human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? is that why most instruments have been designed in this range? any idea(s)? thank you Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:14:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32194-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25199 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:14:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 25189 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:14:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:16:14 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi > >>a chaos path ( 04.10.03 00:21 +0200 ) th_ost: > read the tao te king ...:) hmm ... i think 'dharma bums' would be better [or 'howl']. beats were very chaotic. taoists flow, blend. -- \js $( ;\ '..@"]~{& ~% ;http://or8.net/~johns ( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:17:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32195-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26345 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:17:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 26335 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:17:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:19:21 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TWiki down? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.02 17:56 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > Well, is the TWiki down? I get a "connection refused" error. it came up for me Sun Oct 3 09:57:48 EDT 2004 i know the sysadmins were changing the hardware [more discs], but i was not given a schedule. lemme know if problems persist. -- \js .'>.-_['' :http://or8.net/~johns = [{)"% }+..%|_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:23:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32196-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28063 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:23:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 28053 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:23:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:22:40 +0200 From: Massimiliano Viel <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> X-Sender: mail%xxxxxxx.xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f29bd85b72a4ad2@[1.255.244.143]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Hi list, > > >is that correct that >human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? > >is that why most instruments have been designed >in this range? the human voice range starts about 83 Hz (E2) and more or less goes up to 1046 Hz (C6)... I wouldn't say that there is a direct and causal correspondence between voice range and (most) intruments range. It's something more complex that links voice range, listenings discrimination, physiology of the auditive system and physics of the instruments... of course most instruments are classified by their range following voice classifications (bass, baryton, tenor, alto, mezzosoprano, soprano) and following more or less their range.. that's true... still, in my opinion, a close direct causal relationship is still far... I would rather say that human voice and intruments range are part of the same meaning system... massimiliano -- M a s s i m i l i a n o V i e l http://www.maxviel.it http://www.otolab.net/projects/sn/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:42:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32197-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33625 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:42:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 33615 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:42:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:42:49 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <a05200f29bd85b72a4ad2@[1.255.244.143]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >a close direct causal relationship is still far... -However one can not overlook the rich tradition of vocal music supported with/by acoustic instruments. Also the articulation possibilities that the voice has, is still unsurpassed. Perhaps only electronics have a wider range. 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Sun Oct 3 14:54:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32198-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36872 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 36862 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Depends on the voice of course, as well as on the sound it's making. Certainly telephones have been designed with that frequency response in mind as the minimum bandwidth required for voice intelligibility. I don't know about how the range of instruments corresponds to the range of the voice. It seems to me there are just as many instruments that go beyond the range of the normal voice (piccolo, double bass) as there are that nestle within a voicelike range for the most part (clarinet, violin). Originally, instruments were designed to be sung with, so they certainly needed to have a similar range to a voice, but now that instrumental music has become so independent of the voice, it's not necessarily the case any more. Perhaps the history of the development of instruments in "Western" music is the history of the move of instrumental music away from the role of accompaniment and towards an independent realm. P > Hi list, > > > is that correct that > human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? > > is that why most instruments have been designed > in this range? > > > any idea(s)? > thank you > > Thanos "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 15:31:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32200-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43381 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:31:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 43371 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:31:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:44:19 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] test In-reply-to: <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: fr, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx test. please ignore. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 17:42:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32201-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71592 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:42:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 71582 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:42:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:42:23 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4a970$5ad44ab0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think Nicolas Collins gave a workshop on this a few months ago @ STEIM, Amsterdam. Maybe you can search in that direction. S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : Murat Gunes [mailto:xxxxxx@xxx.xxx] Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone tried circuit bending a sound interface? > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 15:07:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32199-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39156 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 39140 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:11 -0700 From: kathy kennedy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:human voice range In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In fact, a healthy human voice has overtones that we do not neccessarily "hear" up to and beyond 15khz. That's what makes it so difficult to simulate. kk On Oct 3, 2004, at 6:36 AM, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > human voice range http://www.kathykennedy.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:38:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32202-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85943 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:38:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 85870 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:38:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:46 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello .microsounders, Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but with how to present them or, i guess, market them. I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which route I'd like to go. Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to present them. Any ideas on this topic? Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:52:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32204-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91857 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:51:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 91846 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:51:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:51:51 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c4a97a$0f8dc4f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would choose a project name.... some thing well thought out - that reflects you and the music - a made up word will do - a combination of words..... It means that if you choose direction in the future - or want to explore a different style all together your project name can change and you present your listener's with a clearer label about where you are coming from.... some people do go with their name.... and it works for some - it would never work for me - because i share my name with the famous film composer David Newman Kim Cascone writes under his name though and it seems to flow for him..... "name project" is a quite good name in itself............... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Saunders" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but with > how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having a > hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which route > I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. But > then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 19:04:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32205-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95227 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:04:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 95216 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:04:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:05 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, this is how I'm leaning right now. I'm looking, i guess, for a kid606 or afx-esque moniker that I feel comfortable using for everything from my ambient/drone/noise to my jungle/idm/breakcore tracks to whatever other material I make. I have a couple ideas that I'm letting gestate in my head to see what I feel comfortable with over time. When it comes to modern computer music, the grey area between academic / "serious" music and pop / techno / punk can feel very large and easy to fall into. Then again, I'm also looking for a good way to bridge the gap between my largely improvisational beat-less music and my largely hyper-edit precise breakcore material. I've decided to tackle this for now by forcing myself to focus on learning how to play as live as possible at all times, beats or no beats, melodic or not. Going to be interesting to see what happens to my music under this restriction: in the end, I think I will be a better musician for it, and that my music will be more expressive. Anthony On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:04 PM, chthonic streams wrote: > > on the other hand, if your project reaches across other genres, some > people do like to hear a name that sticks in their heads. this is, i > guess, the marketing side of it, because what you're doing in this > case is branding. you're building up a name to permanently associate > with the music that you do. it's really the same thing as with your > own name, it's just that a project name may be more instantly > recognizable, depending on what you're going after and what your name > is. for example, if your given name is bjork or madonna, there's not > much reason to come up with a project name. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:50:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32203-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90790 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:50:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 90780 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:50:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:49 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >hello .microsounders, > >Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, >but with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > >I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting >my music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am >having a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure >out which route I'd like to go. > >Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important >thing, which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard >about it. But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea >how to present them. > >Any ideas on this topic? it seems to me that in the world of experimental music, whether live or electronic, real names prevail. one could argue that musicians and listeners of this genre are pretty much unaffected by things such as names and may even view a project name as silly. in fact, it almost seems that the more "unusual" or "unmarketable" (to western, and particularly american ears) a given name is, the better it sounds. on the other hand, if your project reaches across other genres, some people do like to hear a name that sticks in their heads. this is, i guess, the marketing side of it, because what you're doing in this case is branding. you're building up a name to permanently associate with the music that you do. it's really the same thing as with your own name, it's just that a project name may be more instantly recognizable, depending on what you're going after and what your name is. for example, if your given name is bjork or madonna, there's not much reason to come up with a project name. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 19:50:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32207-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11880 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:50:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 11868 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:50:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:49:42 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003601c4a982$21323e40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx good topic, i find myself musing on this one... many local soundmakers in the michigan area use project names... some of them have several, with each one representing some schism of their direction, techniques, strategy or tactics... i find this interesting, because the boundaries are often imperceptible, and i often feel, unnecessary... i reserve project names for ongoing collaborations, which i guess is an old-school nod towards the concept of self-contained "bands"... i also think that many of the artists i respect the most use a name (not always their given name, sometimes an adopted psuedonym) for their work... kevin drumm, aaron dilloway, rafael toral, fennesz, trimpin, irene moon, for example... i would also closely align those who use their initals with this (slong with the aforementioned who use their surnames only)... such as pbk & rlw... i like the "real"... a sample of my $o2 thanx for the interesting question... ~will soderberg http://white-rose.net http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml upcoming & past shows (including a few in the nothwest later this month) http://white-rose.net/sounds.html white rose network releases catalog http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ mp3s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Saunders" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. > But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to > present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:26:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32208-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19282 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:26:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 19271 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:26:27 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx or a biography about yr ass maybe? --- john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hi > > > >>a chaos path > > ( 04.10.03 00:21 +0200 ) th_ost: > > read the tao te king ...:) > > hmm ... i think 'dharma bums' would be better [or > 'howl']. beats were > very chaotic. > > taoists flow, blend. > > -- > \js $( ;\ '..@"]~{& ~% > ;http://or8.net/~johns ( > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:44:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32209-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24096 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:44:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 24027 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:44:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [65.70.207.5] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpBYGSXAA8cfQEAAAAB,7436494ff7a3dbf4c6fbb3d9402cd8ae X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think a lot of us have given this one quite a bit of thought, so great topic as it concerns so many on this list. I have often thought that there is something really genuine and pure about using one's given name for the work they do on their own or as a solo project. There is even something humble about it as if to say, 'here is my musick. no smoke, no mirrors, just the musick.' But then again, there is a certain attraction to using a project moniker to sort of continue a consistency with the Cagean 'taking the ego out of the product' kind of idea. When you use a project moniker it is possible to say that that is a name for the works themselves or a collective body of work and nevermind so much who the person is that did them. I'm just pointing out what I have thought are the pros of going either way, and my thought on either way to go does not imply a con of the other way. i.e. I don't mean that people who use their given name are egotistical, nor do I mean that people who use a moniker are inauthentic or not humble or just trying to wear a mask or something like that. I ultimately, after much introspective debating, chose to go with using a project moniker (Spagirus) rather than my given name. The ultimate deciding factor for me had nothing to do with any of my thoughts above. I just really like the word, and it fits my work and life so damn well, I just had to keep it. (If you want to know what the word means you can find it by scrolling down here http://www.angelfire.com/journal/cathbodua/EsodictS.html ). I think ultimately the decision of whether or not to use your given name or a project moniker will come down to what your sound art values are, or just to which one you like better. If you come up with that perfect moniker that for some reason no one else has picked up on and it fits your work so perfectly it seems like cosmic providence or something, then you will want to go with that. If you want to just go the 'be yourself' route with your work, then you will probably go with your given name. I think an interesting precedent on this issue is Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman (and possibly Keith's other monikers that I don't even know about). Both projects are good in their own way, but I think the KFW stuff is much more deep and interesting than the Hrvatski stuff, which makes me think he chose to use his given name for the stuff he takes REALLY seriously and that is closest to his heart. Just a guess, but examining the sound work of both Hrvatski and KFW and wondering why he chose to name each as he did would seem to provide some kind of insight on this topic. Greg Elliott (since this is my given name, perhaps you can see why I chose to use a project moniker. perhaps if I'd been named Bernhard Guenter or Francisco Lopez, I would have gone with my real name.) http://spagirus.ivdt.net > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. > But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to > present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________ Get FREE Email and FREE Websites at http://www.chaosmagic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:56:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32210-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27235 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:56:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 27225 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:56:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:56:14 +0200 From: Anton Weiss <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, list I remember reading somewhere once about using Wacom tablet as a midi controller, but I cannot seem to find any app that would allow this. Does anyone know about this? Thanks Ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 21:39:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32211-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37615 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:39:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 37603 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:39:48 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:39:32 +0200 From: jesus gollonet <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns9.hostinglmi.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jesusgollonet.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi anton. I've googled it up and have found a couple of interesting things µ MIDI Controller (Mac Os X) http://www.musicunfolding.com/ a max external (Mac Os X) http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/~IM/en_telecharger.htm but i'd be really interested in something for Windows as well. anyone knows? Anton Weiss wrote: >Hi, list > >I remember reading somewhere once about using Wacom tablet as a midi >controller, but I cannot seem to find any app that would allow this. >Does anyone know about this? > >Thanks > >Ant > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 21:48:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32212-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40610 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 40600 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Thompson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Experimental Interaction Unit To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is pretty interesting. A group dedicated to changing the way humans and machines interact with one another, in a way that is more natural for both the human and the machine. Its also in New York, which is a definite plus: http://www.eiu.org/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig)-- From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 22:27:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32213-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48963 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:27:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 48950 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:27:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:59 +0200 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] vidna obmana & d.o.r. night To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx aufabwegen concert news: 05.10.2004, 20.00h D.O.R. label night --- motion & time --- d.o.r. is a label focussing on dense and atmospheric electronic music that dares to go beyond known limits. the label has brought us music by lull (mick harris), zoviet france, black dog, auntie horror film and more. there is a showcase cd compilation in the september issue of the magazine 'the wire'. live: apollon (headbutt, id) k&a (project d.a.r.k.) nomadstation visuals martin picton kulturbunker muelheim berliner str. 20 51063 cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de ---------------- 07.10.2004, 20.00h V I D N A O B M A N A ::: dark droning ambient ::: & j.frede/david brady/kadet kuhne ::: frequency manipulations, short wave stutter, crashed images ::: kulturbunker muelheim berliner str. 20 51063 cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de ---------------------- 08.10.2004, 20.00h V I D N A O B M A N A ::: dark droning ambient ::: & j.frede/david brady/kadet kuhne ::: frequency manipulations, short wave stutter, crashed images ::: & NJD ::: chaotic free noise improvisations ::: cuba achtermannstr. 12 48143 muenster http://www.geraeuschwelten.de http://www.cuba-cultur.de http://www.aufabwegen.com see you there! ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 00:25:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32214-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80627 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:25:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 80616 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:25:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:25:37 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0440-3, 10/01/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? Best, ale*** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 00:40:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32215-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87190 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 87178 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've had good results playing DRM-encoded Windows Media Files with Mplayer or similar, which only supports non-DRM-encoded Windows Media files. The result is beautiful, both sonically and visually. Before accidentally deleting my hard drive, I was going to make a project using a DRM-encoded porn video I downloaded from some p2p network, as it looked and sounded when played with mplayer (or is it VideoLan? one of those open-source media players). There may be some mention of glitching up video on the Yahoo databenders group. I know somebody a while ago was going to write a perl app that would convert an arbitrary data file into video. I think this has been abandoned, but I recall there is some uncommented perl code in the archives that could be hacked by someone else willing to make the effort. P > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:08:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32216-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96639 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 96629 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:20 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jul 19 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they look like mego or mille plautux album covers.................instant pimmon art -t -------------- Original message from "ale***" : -------------- > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:36:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32217-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5352 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:36:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 5342 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:36:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Interesting topic! I embraced the name Quiet American at the time I did my first field recording compositions with an idea that my raw recordings would be associated with just my name, and compositional work tied to a specific project idea ~ partly because the oft-remarked oxymoronic aspect of the name appealed to my language fetish, and I liked the book and its politics so much; but also because I thought a clean break was nice between what I could take credit for (composing) and just presenting (recordings). I think it's nice to have the option of using different avatars for different kinds of work -- about having work interpreted independent of preconceptions based on a given [un]known name. And of course using different project names avoids (cough) brand dilution when you try something new... Increasingly I find myself in a middle ground where my name (Aaron Ximm) has a (extremely small) public life of its own, though, in relation to all aspects of my work -- which is interesting as in my case it's also a chosen identity of sorts. (Ximm is my wedding anniversary in roman numerals, 10-1-2000, American style with month first). On the other hand I agree that a "bare" name has overtones of humility and directness that is very appealing. And seriousness ~ it's hard to escape too that "real" (ie institutionally recognized) [plastic] artists and composers traditionally just use their names, and rock and roll bands use "cool names." Different traditions the former but ones some of us aspire to, if not professionally or aesthetically, at least in the way the public accords respect to those disciplines (for reasons we needn't argue about! :) ). Timely topic, I've been thinking about how I feel about Ximm growing in respect to QA as a public face as my anniversary just came and went this weekend ~ I found myself thinking, God help me if I should ever get divorced! :) aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:52:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32218-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8702 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:52:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 8691 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:52:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:53:50 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] poll is temporarily down To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi the poll is temporarily unavailable. as i suspected, the site was down because of the new hardware. when they rebuilt the system, some software libraries used by the poll code were missing. i have requested that they get restored. once they are, and the poll is operational, i will notify the list. -- \js ("'?\~`^$ <%=/~]- &{http://or8.net/~johns %_= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 02:35:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32219-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21062 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:35:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 21051 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:35:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:34:49 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2004 02:35:01.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFC18B00:01C4A9BA] I would always lean toward using real names, and even calling all tracks 'untitled'. If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 03:00:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32220-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27399 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:00:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 27389 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:00:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:59:53 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-23.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-3.6/3.0):. Processed in 20.403982 secs Process 19546) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I feel it is best to use your real name. When I see a CD with someone's actual name listed on it, I get a different set of expectations than if I see a CD with a name like "Bubbleotron" or "Rock Rock On" or whatever on it. I feel like I am more likely to be moved artistically and intellectually rather than just entertained. That said, I just bought two CDs today by the artists "Tan As Fuck" and "U Can Unlearn Guitar"... If you're going to have a pseudonym, make sure its one that's good! The only time I use a pseudonym (usually "Professor Ultimate") is when I release nonsense that I do not want related to my main body of work. - John On Oct 3, 2004, at 10:34 PM, bil bo wrote: > I would always lean toward using real names, and even calling all > tracks 'untitled'. > > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their > compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Oct 4 04:02:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32221-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43101 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 04:02:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 43091 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 04:02:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:01:41 -0700 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009601c4a9c6$f6e79f50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx interesting topic. people make good points on both sides. in terms of my listening i buy music by folks who use project or group names and their real names. i have released music under project names and my own. but these days my solo stuff is under my own name and collaborations mostly under project names. if the poetics of the project name fits the music i love that. if it doesn't well i will still buy it but one example that matches the music for me is six organs of admittance one that doesn't is jackie o mutherfucker neither is the microsound realm r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Ximm" <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... > Interesting topic! > > I embraced the name Quiet American at the time I did my first field > recording compositions with an idea that my raw recordings would be > associated with just my name, and compositional work tied to a specific > project idea ~ partly because the oft-remarked oxymoronic aspect of the > name appealed to my language fetish, and I liked the book and its politics > so much; but also because I thought a clean break was nice between what I > could take credit for (composing) and just presenting (recordings). > > I think it's nice to have the option of using different avatars for > different kinds of work -- about having work interpreted independent of > preconceptions based on a given [un]known name. And of course using > different project names avoids (cough) brand dilution when you try > something new... > > Increasingly I find myself in a middle ground where my name (Aaron Ximm) > has a (extremely small) public life of its own, though, in relation to all > aspects of my work -- which is interesting as in my case it's also a > chosen identity of sorts. (Ximm is my wedding anniversary in roman > numerals, 10-1-2000, American style with month first). > > On the other hand I agree that a "bare" name has overtones of humility and > directness that is very appealing. And seriousness ~ it's hard to escape > too that "real" (ie institutionally recognized) [plastic] artists and > composers traditionally just use their names, and rock and roll bands use > "cool names." Different traditions the former but ones some of us aspire > to, if not professionally or aesthetically, at least in the way the public > accords respect to those disciplines (for reasons we needn't argue about! > :) ). > > Timely topic, I've been thinking about how I feel about Ximm growing in > respect to QA as a public face as my anniversary just came and went this > weekend ~ I found myself thinking, God help me if I should ever get > divorced! :) > > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 06:39:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32222-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76697 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:39:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 76687 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:39:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx those bladerunner stills are beautiful! i have had some nice results playing highly-compressed divx videos. this is speculation, but i think that since the compression is largely based on similarity between frames (ie, not storing redundant information from frame to frame), if i skip around between scenes i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. i've done this in mplayer and quicktime. tony at beflix.com has some lovely video glitches from various sources. -jake --- Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I've had good results playing DRM-encoded Windows > Media Files with Mplayer > or similar, which only supports non-DRM-encoded > Windows Media files. The > result is beautiful, both sonically and visually. > Before accidentally > deleting my hard drive, I was going to make a > project using a DRM-encoded > porn video I downloaded from some p2p network, as it > looked and sounded > when played with mplayer (or is it VideoLan? one of > those open-source > media players). > > There may be some mention of glitching up video on > the Yahoo databenders > group. I know somebody a while ago was going to > write a perl app that > would convert an arbitrary data file into video. I > think this has been > abandoned, but I recall there is some uncommented > perl code in the > archives that could be hacked by someone else > willing to make the effort. > > P > > > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of > Blade Runner, when, at a > > certain point the video started skipping and > glitching producing some > > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I > uploaded them without any > > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > > > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > > Can you guys point me toward some good articles > about video glitching, > > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted > video streams? > > Best, > > > > ale*** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 06:50:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32223-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79192 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:50:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 79180 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:50:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:49:52 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Experimental Interaction Unit In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I found this quite ironic: http://eiu.org/experiments/i-bomb/info.html Considering they're using technology to stop people using technology. And it only stops people taking electronic technology into the Technology Free Zone. I could go and stand in the 'TFZ' with a trumpet blaring out a cacophony of deafening sounds, thus preventing direct human-human interaction... These exhibits seem quite pessimistic, but interesting nevertheless. On 3 Oct 2004, at 22:48, Andrew Thompson wrote: > This is pretty interesting. A group dedicated to changing the way > humans and machines interact with one another, in a way that is more > natural for both the human and the machine. Its also in New York, > which is a definite plus: > http://www.eiu.org/ -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org/ music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 09:47:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32224-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73925 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:47:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 73911 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:47:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:47:46 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001d01c4a9f7$37db1f20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > if i skip around between scenes > i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. i've done > this in mplayer and quicktime. Oh yes, DivX/XviD encoded movies (and even some liv streaming Real Video) that I guess have some errors in them can produce very strange things like faces that morphs into other objects or melts - sometimes over several seconds. But I guess it's very hard to make these errors behave predictable. I have tried this once or twice, like overloading the CPU while encoding a clip or simply open the video file in a hex editor and change a few values here and there. Either I saw nothing or the clip stopped working... : ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 12:01:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32225-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 227 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:01:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 217 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:01:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 13:58:54 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bil bo thinks; > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their > compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but surely this stops being true after the first few releases? For example; I´m currently trying to finish a record. Once this hits the shops some people will see it and asume it deals with a greay area between minimal techno and soundtrack like material as my previously released material fell in that field. There might be some who will hope it drifts in a more disco like area as they might have heard I tend to engineer and produce for artists in that field. At some point they´ll find it deals with purely synthetic experiments that sound like strange acoustic instruments with strongly conceptual composition methods. I think that in all fairness we (or at least I) have to admit some of them might very well be disapointed. From your perspective it would make sense to go with some different name. However, I´m insisting on using my real name because I feel this material is quite personal and I wish to identify it as a comunication from me personally to my listener (asuming I have one) and by extention the world. A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed one. At least that´s how i feel. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 12:32:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32226-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8987 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:31:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 8977 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:31:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:32:31 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx jake elliott wrote: > those bladerunner stills are beautiful! > > i have had some nice results playing highly-compressed > divx videos. this is speculation, but i think that > since the compression is largely based on similarity > between frames (ie, not storing redundant information > from frame to frame), if i skip around between scenes > i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. That is right, destructive videocompression is based on storing keyframes and deltas. Try to skip/play backwards. I read a long while ago of a videoplugin which could create this artefacts in realtime and rather controllable but the name and source slipped me. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next events: Elektronengehirn concert: 09.10. Astrastube, Hamburg, Germany concert + DJ set with Xyramat: 10.10. Schilleroper, Hamburg, Germany pure-data workshop 18.10-22.10 vivid, Birmingham, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:16:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32228-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32059 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:16:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 32049 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:16:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx allo, i have seemed to lost link in my hastily early morning clearing of inbox. could somebody pls send it to me offlist pls. ty. d. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Oct 4 14:19:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32229-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34792 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 34782 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:33:59 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210604bd870f78f4af@[64.63.223.32]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but >surely this stops being true after the first few releases? i agree with that - once a namre has been floating around, no matter what it is, people make an association. this is in fact the point of a brand name / trademark / service mark. >However, I¥m insisting on using my real name >because I feel this material is quite personal and I wish to identify it as >a comunication from me personally to my listener (asuming I have one) and by >extention the world. A bit like you wouldn¥t sign love letters, contracts or >confessions with a asumed name, it¥d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed >one. yes, but not everyone has as cool a name as kassen! ; ) d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 15:01:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32231-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49642 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:01:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 49632 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:01:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:36:56 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c4aa1f$9a8daa20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <p05210604bd870f78f4af@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx chthonic streams writes; > >For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but > >surely this stops being true after the first few releases? > > i agree with that - once a namre has been floating around, no matter > what it is, people make an association. this is in fact the point of > a brand name / trademark / service mark. Indeed. One thing I´ve been wondering about is why Panacea choose to use his d&b on name his "Brazilia" cd on the Architectura series. It sounds exactly like his M² work and I don´t imagine people into that post digital stuff see his rather brutal and straightforward d&b work as a recomendation. My guess is that it was the label´s choice because the Panacea name is much better known. That too is a factor, I fear. It´s not a factor that´s comfortable to admid and preferably it wouldn´t be there but it is and if you want to sell some records you might need to take that stuff into account. > yes, but not everyone has as cool a name as kassen! ; ) But I payed for it. It´s cool now, but having a name nobody ever heard is less fun when you´re a kid. The other kids will look baffled for a second, then look for the closest word they do know and schream that repeatedly on top of the lungs. I never understood why but they do. Pros and cons, I suppose, but when the cons are in the past it´s all fine. Thanks. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:54:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32230-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46617 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:54:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 46607 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:54:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Hostbaby Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I agree with the notion that a project name gives a focus to the music rather than the personality of the performer, but I think one should just do what feels right. I've already run into problems with the Archive moniker, which I use for composed works while keeping my real name for installations, field recordings, etc-- it's been the subject of some confusion recently. Despite a very specific press kit, a weekly paper recently ran a full-page article about my new Archive cd, but wrote about it as if I'd released it under my own name, and the same thing happened with a radio feature a couple of weeks later (no mention of the word "Archive" in either piece). I guess another thing to keep in mind is that often one doesn't have the control over one's nomenclature anyway... press is press though. I imagine the word "archive" might be confusing for people. mike hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:07:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32227-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28805 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:07:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 28795 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:07:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:07:50 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Invitation To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005801c4aa23$ea8f8cb0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_74Y+4OIEsLMYO5Zw+ooL7w)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_74Y+4OIEsLMYO5Zw+ooL7w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been assigned to make a "sound-cinema" during a month long kultural festival and would like to present some "advanced sounds". People will be able to listen to the music/noise/ambient/soundart through approximately 20 pairs of headphones (all of which are playing the same track) in a smaller box, built for the occasion. The box is on wheels, can seat approx. 20 people and plays CD/DVD/VHS, which means, if you have liveshows or "musicvideos" it is possible to have them screened. If you're interested send material to me, use adress below. deadline is 10/10 -2004. I do realize this is next sunday, but i'm not asking for specially composed material, merely great stuff from the drawers... And if you're considering to send something, please drop me a line OFFLIST, using xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx, so i know something will be in the mail. And please note: only beat-less material will be taken in consideration. Regards Lars // Noisejihad. 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Mon Oct 4 15:40:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32232-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71475 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:40:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 71464 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:40:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:42:06 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] poll is back up To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi the poll is operational again. -- \js '} $@')>=|#http://or8.net/~johns ?' ; " :// --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:29:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32237-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98955 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:29:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 98944 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:29:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:05:15 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx chthonic writes; > i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he > basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it > under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from > the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out > noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has > nothing to draw people in with. Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the others. Panacea´s fan base is probably quite different from m²´s fanbase on the other hand. I agree that you can always put your real name on anything you do like Paul does as it´s always him, but Panacea has come to mean "hard d&b with heavy basslines". > true, but americans probably won't make such associations. > since i have past associations with european names, i think > aesthetically "kassen" sounds good, whatever it means. the > closest english written word would be some variation on > "cassette", which is not a bad association for a musician. I was told by my parents it´s ancient german for "big strong man" but never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased away we might never know. I suppose it´s meaning depends on me now, just like the meaning of "chthonic" in this context depends on you. > > is any of your music online? http://kassen.mine.nu/tracks/index.html Mostly relatively old and more techno inspired then what I do these days. http://kassen.mine.nu/tracks/Kassen_Now.mp3 Is perhaps the most microsoundy thing there. It´s a remix of a local hardcore band who rejected it as it´s not hardcore in the slightest and just loops the guitar bit. Never do remixes without vocals if the vocalist in question manages the label that wants it. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:09:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32235-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83364 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:09:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 83352 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:09:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:09:28 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001901c4aa2c$89925c90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about "Various Artists" then ? S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] I imagine the word "archive" might be confusing for people. mike hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:42:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32239-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6937 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 6924 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:18:16 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bil bo, reacting to me; > >A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or > >confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed > >one. > > An assumed name? All names are assumed- it is the very nature of language. > A pseudonym would be just as valid / self-representative as the name chosen > for you by your parents (or more so, as you would choose it yourself) Let me rephrase that then as I agree on a conceptual level. It would feel wrong to me to sign love letters or confessions with a name chosen by me. Contracts and the people that want you to sign them tend not to think such concerns matter and will demand your birth name. While I agree with you on a conceptual level, I also think there is a lot to be said for uniquely identifying names. For example, I imagine that if i were to start posting from mailto:xxx_xx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx this would displease you and confuse others. I shouldn´t be alowed to buy houses claiming to be Bill Gates either. More to the point here I´d by quite upset if the new album marked Aphex Twin turned out to be by a local blues band as I´d buy new Aphex albums on sight. Semantics and their theory are great but in my own experience they can´t be aplied to the real world withput some comon sense without running into trouble. Yours, $NAME. :¬) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:21:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32236-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91524 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 91514 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:20:27 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2004 16:21:04.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[25709810:01C4AA2E] >A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or >confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed >one. An assumed name? All names are assumed- it is the very nature of language. A pseudonym would be just as valid / self-representative as the name chosen for you by your parents (or more so, as you would choose it yourself) _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:40:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32238-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5769 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 5759 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:41:26 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he >> basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it >> under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from >> the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out >> noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has >> nothing to draw people in with. >Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical >crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the others. then you are lucky to know some semi-open-minded people. there are plenty of people i know who never cross between noise and ebm. one thinks the other is childish, silly dance junk and the other thinks the one is unlistenable and fascist . >Panacea´s fan base is probably quite different from m2´s fanbase on the >other hand. i don't see how the music between those two projects is more different than the difference between the genres we talked about above. i can't recall panacea, while i did once own an m2 album, but to me they are both electronica/idm of some kind. i may like one or the other, but not because of subgenre distinctions. but i may be one of those people like the friends you describe. >I suppose it´s meaning depends on me now, just like the >meaning of "chthonic" in this context depends on you. it just means underground or subterranean. anything beyond that is whatever context one decides to associate with it. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:02:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32240-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63646 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:02:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 63631 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:02:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Polta <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have found, and some that I've talked to feel the same way, that using a "fake" name, either the same one all the time or differenet names for different styles, afords a kind of freedom in creation. My personal problem (and, yes, I'm working on it!) is falling into stylistic ruts, becoming repetitious, getting hung up trying to reconcile new directions with my "body of work", etc. Like costumes or roll play, pseudonyms allow (if not encourage) an escape from oneself into something else, where (potentially) one could be free from the pressures of expectations, free to venture into new areas. Other people have different reasons, sure. --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I feel it is best to use your real name. When I see > a CD with someone's > actual name listed on it, I get a different set of > expectations than if > I see a CD with a name like "Bubbleotron" or "Rock > Rock On" or whatever > on it. I feel like I am more likely to be moved > artistically and > intellectually rather than just entertained. > > That said, I just bought two CDs today by the > artists "Tan As Fuck" and > "U Can Unlearn Guitar"... If you're going to have a > pseudonym, make > sure its one that's good! > > The only time I use a pseudonym (usually "Professor > Ultimate") is when > I release nonsense that I do not want related to my > main body of work. > > - John > > On Oct 3, 2004, at 10:34 PM, bil bo wrote: > > > I would always lean toward using real names, and > even calling all > > tracks 'untitled'. > > > > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a > pseudonym which sounds > > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery > attatched to their > > compositions. This frees the listener to > experience the full piece > > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then > contextualise it themselves. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Oct 4 21:04:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32246-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17872 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:04:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 17858 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:03:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:01:06 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? 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SEE YA NEXT WEEK !!! -----------------------------FUTUR (re)MIX-------------- ------------POWERPLAY--------------------------13h/16h---------- ----------------------------04/10/04----------------------------- Check the Playlist and all good and hot guide Clubbing/Concert @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1: RatataBACK...This is for reel...This is : THE BRAIN ( Funny Thinks , Funny Groovy ) http://thebrain.lautre.net Part2: 1-Mocky: Mickey Mouse Motherfucka (Four Music, V2) -Lp "Are+Be" 2-Moodymann: Forevernevermore (Peacefrog) -Lp "Forevernevermore" 3-Carol Williams: Can't get away (Sonar Kollectiv) -V/A "Jazzanova mixing" 4-Rednose Distrikt: NY Boom (Kindred Spirits, Rush Hour) -Lp "Iller Dan Je Ouders" 5-Domu:Fun no more (Loungin' recordings) -Ep "Worldwide" 6-Matthew Dear: Takes on you (Spectral, Ghostly) -Lp "Backstroke" 7-Substance: Monobox remix vol3 (Logistic) -Ep "Monobox remix 03" 8-Martini Bros: Pumpkin Jam mix (Karmarouge 08) -Ep "Vegetable remix vol1" 9-Brooks: Burning Buxx (Soundslike, Discograph) -Lp "Red Tape" release this week!!! ***************************************************** ----------------------ARNO N'JOY Mix------------------------ -------------Son emission N'joy sera sur Béton 1semaine/2--------- -------------All Wenesdays @ 20h/21h------------------------ 1-Metro Area:Nerves (Environ 019) 2-Franz Ferdinand:Take me out [Morgan Geist remix] 3-Metro Area:Caught up (Environ) 4-Ralph Myers:Casino [Riton re-dub] (Emperor Norton) 5-Justin Martin:Sad Piano [Charles Webster mix] (Buzzin Fly 04) 6-Dirt Crew:Check this out (My Best Friend 05) 7-Chez Damier:You feel it (KMS 035) 8-Fred Everything: Close to you ft Juday Singer (20/20 vision 105) 9-Seelenluft:You come along (Klein 051) 10-Scissor Sisters:Comfortably Numb [Paper Faces remix] (Az) 11-Miss Kittin: Requiem for a hit (Abe Duque remix) (Labels) 12-Nutone:Breathless (Hospital 067) 13-Omni Trio:Time (Scale records 02) Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres all monday 17h-18h /The Brain 13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:21:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32241-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73649 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:21:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 73639 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:21:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:21:18 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <010f01c4aa47$54a4c160$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0441-0, 10/04/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html ale*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Verlorene_Ursache" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches > allo, > > i have seemed to lost link in my hastily early morning > clearing of inbox. could somebody pls send it to me > offlist pls. ty. > > d. > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:50:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32242-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91661 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:50:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 91649 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:50:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:47:37 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4aa4b$006d03b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Semantics and their theory are great but in my own experience they can´t be > aplied to the real world withput some comon sense without running into > trouble. they could be, if we all would agree on doing so... it's only because most people are not willing to go beyond what they learned in primary school.... that said, i am running into trouble all the time, when "personalising" language in conversation... pope myself 3. °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:55:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32243-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93809 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:55:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 93799 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:55:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:55:13 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ae01c4aa4c$1036a6b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx another aspect (that may have been mentioned - sorry, i've come late to this thread) is anonimity. i originally chose to record under a 'project' name as i didn't see attaching my name/ego directly to the music i was making as important or helpful, the same way i choose not to put a picture of myself on a record sleeve. of course, any assumed name becomes as much a reference to an individual as his/her given name, but that extra step of removal was appealing to me - helping tocreate an element of 'it doesn't matter who i am, only what i've made.' patrick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 20:35:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32244-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7357 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 7342 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:24 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:35:14 +0200 From: Anton Weiss <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, yes, I should've mentioned that I was looking for a Windows utility. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 20:42:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32245-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10016 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:42:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 10005 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:42:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:42:51 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Blog on new recording media and more To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <018b01c4aa52$b75aadf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000f01c4aa4b$006d03b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://whatcaughtmyeye.blogspot.com/ /björn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 21:15:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32247-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:15:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 24045 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:15:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] TOP10-PLAYLIST: Blevin Blectum, Ema de Angelis, ENT, Glass Box, MB, Miba, Omb... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, A new streamable top 10 playlist is available _here_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr/topten.htm) at _XStreamRadioWebcast_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr/) ! In no particular order, except alphabetical order: + Artist : Blevin Blectum (United States) Title : Last Track (Magic Maple) Label : Praemedia (United States) Artist : Emanuela de Angelis (Italy) Title : Contours (MP3 Release) Label : EdA (Italy) Artist : ENT (Italy) Title : Beating Cherry Nipples (Fuck Work) Label : (Not released yet) Artist : Glass Box (United States) Title : Spaceprobe V3.1 (10+11) (Spaceprobe V3.1) Label : Umamidisc (United States) Artist : Maurizio Bianchi (Italy) Title : A-Cycle (Kookogaku) (Cycles) Label : EEs'T (Italy) Artist : Miba (United States) Title : Until Something Bigger... (The Corplate Porblem) Label : Pax Recordings (United States) Artist : Omb (Japan) Title : (006) (Oral/Method) Label : Flyrec (Japan) Artist : PEI (Taiwan) Title : Nois-5into (Ipatti) Label : Post-Concrete (USA/Taiwan/China) Artist : Resina (Italy) Title : Mundo Taku (Opinio Omnium) Label : Mousikelab (Italy) Artist : Yasushi Miura (Japan) Title : (2) (Spin 5930) Label : Karidome (Japan) + Blevin Blectum: "Magic Maple" is the 3rd solo release by Blevin Blectum (formerly of Blectum From Blechdom and currently a member of Sagan). This album picks up where the acclaimed "Talon Slalom" left off. Prog-rock fantasy gone wrong in a purely audio medium. Emanuela de Angelis: Emanuela de Angelis (formerly of Mou, Lips!) has recently started a solo project under her own name. Her music, which materializes into dark electronic ambient drones, is like a poetic and cinematic exploration into obscure territories. Emanuela is currently working on a new webmagazine, bit_per_knowledge, whose first issue will come out soon. She also contributed to the recent "Sonic Scope : Portable Edition" compilation cd, published by Grain of Sound. ENT: ENT is an italian duo formed by Emanuele Bortoluzzi and Michele Scariot. Their music, which is made with electronic, acoustic and electric instruments, could be described as a magical encounter between glitch pop and free improvisation. Their latest demo-cd called "Fuck Work" is a great mix of many different elements of sound fused together and structured in a very progressive way. Glass Box: Since 1988, Glass Box writes and performs experimental music utilizing conventional as well as homemade instruments, found sounds, tape manipulation and any other manner of sound conveyance to produce their pieces. Ambient, electro-acoustic, spoken word, noise/drone are the key words behind these enigmatic artists. Maurizio Bianchi: Maurizio Bianchi (aka MB) has been a key figure in the development of experimental electronic music since the late 80's; he is considered as a pioneer in the noise and industrial music genre. After a long hiatus of almost 14 years, Bianchi returned to music in 1998, starting a series of works dominated by religious and philosophical themes. "Cycles", one of his latest records to date, is a combination of hypnotic and ambient loops. Miba: Miba is Mark Bartscher and Kristin Miltner, from San Francisco. They make music with bells, voices, computers, trees, self-created software patches, birds and cats, creating rhythmic granular textures ranging from harmonic washes to dense noise, hypnotized by the spirits of Pauline Oliveros, Maggi Payne, and Alvin Curran. Omb: Equally utlizing complex computer progamming and unintentional mistakes, Omb creates everchanging cute and emotional tracks. Clicks, error noises, sine waves, transformed samples and field recordings intertwine and separate, while minimal electronic phrases provide uplifting melodies. PEI: Encompassing everything from microsound to digital noise, the music of PEI is a dizzying kaleidoscope of experimental electronica. Despite being from Taipei, PEI composed the most part of her first full-length "Ipatti" during a residency in Sydney, Australia. Resina: Resina is the result of the meeting between Marco Messina and Retina.It. Their sound, though essentially electronic, has an analogic soul, with a dirty and lively approach in making their tracks. Intelligent dance music supported by obsessive and hypnotic rhythms, with echoes of tribal mantras coming out. Yasushi Miura: Yasushi Miura comes from Tokyo and self-release his records on his own Karidome label. His music is a nervous, joyful, and playful deviant techno with loads of things happening everywhere, all set against a pounding beat. + Credits for texts: _http://blevin.lsr1.com/pressMaple.html_ (http://blevin.lsr1.com/pressMaple.html) _http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/glassbox.htm_ (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/glassbox.htm) _http://www.scaruffi.com/avant/bianchi.html_ (http://www.scaruffi.com/avant/bianchi.html) _http://www.flyrec.com/en/release/oral.html_ (http://www.flyrec.com/en/release/oral.html) _http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70312080834132336&sql=Anr 7m96bokep8_ (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70312080834132336&sql=Anr7m96bokep8) _http://www.staalplaat.com/vital_archive/422.txt_ (http://www.staalplaat.com/vital_archive/422.txt) _http://www.mousikelab.it/resinaenglish.htm_ (http://www.mousikelab.it/resinaenglish.htm) + Thank you, [ _http://xstreamradio.free.fr_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr) ] [ Now playing: Experimental and Electronic music ] --Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:19:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32253-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90823 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:19:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 90809 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:19:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:36:24 +1300 From: Niklas Werner <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <200410051036.25062.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: KMail/1.7 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:05, Kassen wrote: > I was told by my parents it´s ancient german for "big strong man" but > never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to > make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased > away we might never know. I don't want to dissapoint you, but basically "Kassen" is the plural of "Kasse" in German which means checkout/till/cash box. Cheers, Niklas -- Computer Music PhD-student University of Waikato Hamilton New Zealand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 21:46:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32248-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44041 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:46:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 44025 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:46:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:47:41 -0400 From: Mark Laliberte <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Thinkbox concert on CBC: BNW / Oct 08 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.marklaliberte.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a0611042bbd8774ae9d8d@[131.104.216.71]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 2.63 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on moe.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (MICROSOUNDERS: one last chance at hearing our Mutek gig, in case you missed it! ) THINKBOX on BRAVE NEW WAVES: CBC Radio Two 00h05 - 04h00 Broadcast date: October 8th, 2004 ....presentation of concert performance from Mutek, North America's premier experimental electronic music festival ....recorded Jun 2004 at S.A.T. in Montreal ( http://www.sat.qc.ca ) ....performing order: 1- Mark Laliberte; 2- Christopher Bissonnette; 3- Rob Theakston; 4- Bill Van Loo; 5- Steve Roy; 6- Chris McNamara; 7- Thinkbox (collective improv). ABOUT THINKBOX | http://www.thinkbox.ca Founded at the end of the 1990s, Thinkbox is a multimedia collective whose interests lie in the exploration and the development of the new modalities of audiovisual diffusion in the context of live performances. The collective is comprised of six members who reside on both sides of the Canadian-American border, dividing their time between Windsor and Detroit. Thinkbox was recently selected as one of URB Magazine's "Next 100 Artists for 2004". Collective and/or solo member performances have occurred in the past year at the following venues and festivals: Movement (Detroit's Electronic Music Festival), USA / Cranbrook Museum of Art, USA / New Maps Festival, Montreal / Deep Wireless Festival, Toronto / Vancouver New Music's Dangerous Currents Festival / and The Ann Arbor Film Festival, USA. ABOUT THINKBOX @ MUTEK 2004 | http://www.mutek.ca While they remain a close-knit group, Thinkbox appreciates diversity. With the free reign given to them by MUTEK, the collective presented a series of solo performances that culminated with a full ensemble collaboration. Their presentation strategies vary: certain pieces were microtonal in nature, others more cinematographically and musically oriented, while others revolved around electro-acoustic structures built upon field-recording passages, generating minimalist moments throughout a powerful, definitive rhythm. The results combined the cerebral, the visceral, the organic and the power of digital. For images of T/B @ the festival, see... http://www.thinkbox.ca/events/2004-mutek/ ABOUT BRAVE NEW WAVES | http://www.bravenewwaves.ca BNW is dedicated to new underground music. This could mean anything from indie rock to dance, experimental electronic and avantgardisms of every shape. We include the widest universe of genres possible every single night. The essential rhythm of BNW includes profiles (extended discography/ biography), interviews (filmmakers, composers, cartoonists, bands, regional correspondents), and occasionally our own BNW sessions. BNW can be heard across Canada, or live on the internet.... for information on various streams (Real Player, etc), please see: http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/audio.shtml --Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:12:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32249-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82776 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:12:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 82692 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:12:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:05:55 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Kassen wrote: > chthonic writes; > >> i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he >> basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it >> under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from >> the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out >> noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has >> nothing to draw people in with. > > Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical > crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the > others. So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! I am insulted. - John Nowak --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:34:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32254-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97114 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:34:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 97102 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:34:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:09:47 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak complains; > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. Feel free to feel insulted if you want to be, but I did not write that. I said that the people I know that like one of those styles also like the others. This implies a strong correlation (at least from my own coloured perspective), not that they will like any speciffic artist in those styles. In fact they´ll dislike many artists in those styles and of other composers like only specific albums or even tracks. By extention I think that those styles have some overlap in which it´s debatable what field any speciffic recording falls into. At least I think there is more overlap between those styles and hard d&b v.s. post digital clicky experiments but clearly that opinion is not shared by all. I wouldn´t have been insulted if somebody had claimed what you preceived me to claim, merely surprised. Luckily I did not claim this. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:14:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32250-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84896 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:14:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 84883 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:14:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean bad disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:39:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32255-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1409 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:39:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 1396 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:39:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:14:47 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002f01c4aa67$f2a6fd40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <200410051036.25062.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Niklas Werner notes, reacting to me; > > > I was told by my parents its ancient german for "big strong man" but > > never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to > > make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased > > away we might never know. > > I don't want to dissapoint you, but basically "Kassen" is the plural of > "Kasse" in German which means checkout/till/cash box. I knew that, I saw what companies were competing with me for the top spot in google for that search. Presumably ancient German, as opposed to modern German, did not deal with cash registers so I still have some hope. Aparently it´s also Swedish for "small plastic bag" or something along those lines and it´s Dutch for "greenhouses". I´ll live. Cheers, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:17:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32251-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87842 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:17:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 87817 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:17:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:14 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:05 PM, John Nowak wrote: >> >> Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost >> identical >> crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the >> others. > > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:18:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32252-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89755 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:18:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 89744 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:18:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:18:23 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130306bd878a7dad13@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >angry pointless vocals. -So nothing has changed actually... 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Tue Oct 5 00:00:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32256-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9230 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:59:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 9219 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:59:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:59:46 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] genre names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 19:14:11 EDT >--part1_45.17b36f1d.2e933343_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >writes: > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. >> > > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean bad >disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. no, you'ere thinking of "industrial". here, "noise" means "noise". u.s. industrial (read: ebm) people know what noise is, they just don't necessarily like it. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:24:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32259-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20173 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:24:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 20163 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:24:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:01:36 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:14 PM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, > xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > writes: > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. >> > > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean > bad > disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with "core". - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:09:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32258-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13506 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 13433 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:02:46 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? - John On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, > idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, > and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:09:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32257-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13126 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 13116 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:04:39 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:09 PM, Kassen wrote: > John Nowak complains; > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. > > Feel free to feel insulted if you want to be, but I did not write that. I was just interjecting a bit of nonsense. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:35:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32260-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25004 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:35:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 24994 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:35:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:36:18 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:02:46 -0400 >There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? well, i don't think he meant that per se; more of a series of overlaps that could eventually link the tastes of people who like those styles. but yes, i have both senking and morbid angel in my collection. i can't say there's much jungle or gabber i like, unless you count kid606 and aphex twin. d. >On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, >> and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:50:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32261-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33146 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:49:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 33136 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:49:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:50:36 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to >describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a >stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with >"core". i hear the term "rhythmic noise" applied to artists on ant-zen and the like. "breakcore" tends to be a bit less harsh/noisy than those artists. i know it's kinds of splitting hairs but there is a difference of both sound and intent between these artists, whether you like their music or not. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:51:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32262-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34541 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:51:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 34531 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:51:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:56 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yup, like myself. I picked a variety of genres, where a fan of one is likely to enjoy another, but that there would be other genres that the overlap is less likely. Lots of harsh noise fans like gabber, jungle, death metal and industrial. Lots of noise fans also love microsound, ambient, and idm. On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:02 PM, John Nowak wrote: > There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? > > - John > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, >> synthpop, and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of >> those genres. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:13:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32263-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45317 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:13:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 45307 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:13:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:10 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and death metal. I present some examples: http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of canada: glitched out grindcore) http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular vocal processing at end of song) http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular processing at start of song) all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four years old. Anthony On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:02 PM, John Nowak wrote: > >> There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? >> >> - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:30:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32264-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51090 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:30:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 51080 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:30:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:11 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] driving down the cost of reading... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-19BC7636166E11D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all- A bit of an experiment, but I thought I might take a chance: I've recently enjoyed reading James Harley's book on Iannis Xenakis <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415971454/qid=1096938840 /sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9213846-5719358?v=glance&s=books> which analyzes the breadth of his creative output. It's really a unique view of Xenakis that takes a couple of steps back from the detail of _Formalized Music_ and enables one to take in the span of his life's work. Trouble is, the book is an $85 hardback, and I was only able to get it thanks to interlibrary loan. Clearly, the dread Taylor and Francis Group (Routledge) is thinking solely of the library market. Now the privatization of specialized knowledge by locking it up in academic libraries is a whole topic in and of itself, but what I might request is: I'm emailing their special sales person in Canada, Pamela Robinson, to suggest that I, and others like me, would be interested in purchasing this book in the $17-25 price range in paperback. If you think you might, please email her as well. Please don't use my $$$ range as a yardstick, put in whatever price you might think is fair. Certainly it might be hard for you to know whether you'd actually want this book without browsing it (don't hold your breath at B&N), but I'm curious what kind of a response would be generated by 10-25 (or more) emails showing up on this subject. Her address is: <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> ....and if you feel like it, blind copy the list. Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:56:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32265-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61493 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:56:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 61483 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:56:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:02 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Pricing Harley's _Xenakis_ In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-19BC7636166E11D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B694861B167111D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx FORWARDED MESSAGE ======================= Ms. Robinson- I recently enjoyed reading James Harley's book _Xenakis, His Life and Music_ which is published by Routledge (ISBN: 0415971454). I got my copy through inter-library loan at CUNY from the University of New Hampshire Library. I considered purchasing a copy, but when I looked the work up on Amazon, I was shocked to find it costs $85. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of confidence in its sales potential and are looking solely to a library market. As a student interested in music of the 20th century, and knowing others who have similar interests, I can't help but think Routledge could do quite well with a paperback edition in a mid-teens to low-twenty dollar price tag. Written work on Xenakis is very hard to find considering the interest in his life and work. I should think a treatment of broad scope such as James Harley's would find an abundance of eager readers. Best, Charles Turner <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> ======================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 03:08:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32266-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82591 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:07:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 82555 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:07:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5001 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello is there anyone here that collects random or algorithmic music generators? I like to find one that supports Musical forms such as rondo ,A-B-C, Rhapsody Ect.. It must be able to save or export the songs As Midi Files. I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul Whalley Programs prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. thanks for any And All help Mg3Nc . --Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 03:20:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32267-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86221 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:12:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 86196 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:12:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: svin <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] any events in Edmonton, AB, Canada?(-) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Tue Oct 5 03:40:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32268-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94026 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:40:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 94015 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:40:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] death metal and powernoise X-Originating-IP: [65.70.207.5] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpBYhexAAQcEAEAAAAB,c8e733aa0b4106dc84ae21dde8c6fdc0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? and I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with "core". - John Well, there is the overlap between microsound and speed metal where Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's speed metal band rehearsing as source material (apparantly Francisco Lopez at least really likes speed and death metal, and I myself have to admit a certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that makes for a genre overlap, but it's interesting anyway. As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and 'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat based industrial stuff with the ocassional blast of 'noise' here and there. And I think most americans would make this distinction except for old people who grew up on swing who think that all music that isn't swing or classical is 'noise', but that's a whole other story. Greg http://spagirus.ivdt.net _____________________________________________________________ Get FREE Email and FREE Websites at http://www.chaosmagic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 04:25:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32269-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7532 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:24:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 7522 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:24:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:18:18 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Gregory Elliott wrote: > Well, there is the overlap between microsound and speed metal where > Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's speed metal band > rehearsing as source material (apparantly Francisco Lopez at least > really likes speed and death metal, and I myself have to admit a > certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that makes for a genre > overlap, but it's interesting anyway. Indeed, I've used samples of Slayer in my works. I've also used samples of Britney Spears and MC Hammer though... > As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from > hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between > noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and 'powernoise', > which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat based > industrial stuff There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise is too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). I love Cock ESP. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 05:10:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32270-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18064 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:10:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 18053 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:10:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:24:19 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from >>hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction >>between noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and >>'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy >>beat based industrial stuff > >There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, >mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise >is too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my >tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff >hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just >noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). while many have unfortunately gotten kind of pedestrian, some of the a-z artists have more to them than that. converter and morgenstern overlap into noiseambient and powernoise. i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, and slogun. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 06:32:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32271-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33086 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 33074 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:04 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:24 AM, chthonic streams wrote: > i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the > same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG > tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits > and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, > and slogun. > I on the other hand was under the impression that "power noise" and "power electronics" were very different. PE being Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, Genocide Organ, Con-Dom, Grey Wolves, Taint, Grunt, Slogun, etc, and PN being Ant-Zen style rhythmic noise. Anthony who prefers japanese style harsh noise, especially the incredible work of Kazumoto Endo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 06:58:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32272-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38581 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:58:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 38565 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:58:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:58:37 +0200 (CEST) From: urkuma urkuma <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] =?iso-8859-1?q?Finisterrae=92s=20Cronotopo?= To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Finisterrae’s Cronotopo The Cronotopos is defined by Mikhail Bakhtin (writer 1934\1985) "a time-space", that is a kind of interconnection, through that it is possible to describe, at the same time, an historical and imaginary time and space. PLEO and URKUMA choose to take as reference Murray Schaffer's soundscapes, recording 30 seconds of sound every 5 kilometers along Salento's coast, from T.Castiglione(Jonic coast) to Casalabate(Adriatic coast). 185 kilometers were scoured and "recorded" , from 9.36 a.m. to 7.20 p.m. in 28.06.2004; passing trough "finisterrae's coast", which was considered the border-land of the south-east of Italy. The listener can live again the sonic exploration of PLEO and URKUMA recordings. Every sample is assembled obtaining a single track, made by "fade-in and fade-out" technique. It is a "sonic-safari" through nature, buildings, streets, pre-recorded bells, aqueduct, dogs, voices…silence. http://www.quantize-records.com/mapping/cronotopo.html ciao Pleo & Urkuma --------------------------------- Scopri Mister Yahoo! - il fantatorneo sul calcio di Yahoo! Sport' --Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 08:46:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32273-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59294 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:46:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 59283 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:46:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:37:36 +0100 From: catskinroyale <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] =?windows-1252?Q?Finisterrae=92s_Cronotopo?= In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Authenticated-Sender: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Processed: sourceofevil.org, Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:35:33 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 212.187.249.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.187.249.4 X-Return-Path: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx urkuma urkuma wrote: > Finisterrae’s Cronotopo > > fantastic! james --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 09:59:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32274-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72903 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:59:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 72893 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:59:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:09:41 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx try using the [gemtablet] object in Pure Data/GEM. it will give you raw numbers of position, pression, azimuth, orientation, etc of the pen without problem. you can do the conversion to midi yourself at that point. d. Anton Weiss wrote: > Well, yes, I should've mentioned that I was looking for a Windows utility. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 192: "Your mistake was a hidden intention" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 12:14:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32275-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:14:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 7252 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:14:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:11:45 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bmicrosound=5D_Finisterrae's_Cronotopo?= To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002601c4aad4$7bf46760$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx great piece, very well presented. i like the map-visualisation, rather simple, but fantastic. thanx for sharing this, hidarius °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 12:24:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32276-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9304 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:24:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 9293 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:24:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:45 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:24 AM, chthonic streams wrote: > >>> As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from >>> hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between >>> noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and >>> 'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat >>> based industrial stuff >> >> There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, >> mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise is >> too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my >> tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff >> hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just >> noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). > > while many have unfortunately gotten kind of pedestrian, some of the > a-z artists have more to them than that. converter and morgenstern > overlap into noiseambient and powernoise. > > i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the > same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG > tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits > and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, > and slogun. Yes, Slogun is who I was trying to think of. Indeed I have both Converter and Slogun t-shirts from a few years back... :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 13:21:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32277-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24706 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:21:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 24696 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:21:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:21:48 -0700 (PDT) From: carl kruger <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] =?UNKNOWN?Q?Finisterrae=92s?= Cronotopo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'm thinking if something similar was attempted in the states, all you'd get would be the passing of cars. and police sirens. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Oct 5 16:47:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32278-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4995 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:47:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 4984 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:47:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:48:38 -0600 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bkd5ckmTYL4MMF4bfdBh7A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_bkd5ckmTYL4MMF4bfdBh7A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurie Spiegel made something called "Music Mouse" back in 1985 I think. 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Tue Oct 5 17:34:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32279-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22591 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 22580 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:48 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:34:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 06/10/2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes -Miércoles/Wednesday 15h- www.circulobellasartes.com Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen Live real time: www.ondasonoraradio.com CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 06/10/2004 Especial EXPERIMENTACLUB 04 Programa especial dedicado a ExperimentaClub 2004, el festival de música experimental que se celebra a partir de hoy y hasta el domingo en La Casa Encendida de Madrid, en el que nos vemos inevitablemente involucrados, y encantados de estarlo, porque hemos sido invitados a realizar una singular sesión de hora y media este domingo 10 de octubre a partir de las 6 de la tarde Special program dedicated to ExperimentaClub 2004, the festival of experimental music that takes place starting from today and until Sunday at La Casa Encendida in Madrid, in which we see inevitably involved, and charmed of being, as we've been invited to carry out a singular hour and a half session this Sunday October 10th, starting from 6 in the afternoon 01. SO Track: 3 Album: So Label: Thrill Jockey Comenzamos pues con algunos de los contenidos del festival, por orden de aparición, escuchando lo que podremos ver esta tarde. Este es uno de los 10 cortes sin nombre incluidos en un disco editado el año pasado por el sello Thrill Jockey: el debut de So, proyecto conjunto de Markus Popp (de Oval, Microstoria) y la japonesa Eriko Toyoda, creado en 2002 a partir de la revisión y deconstrucción de una amplia colección de canciones grabadas anteriormente por ella en Japón. Para sus actuaciones en directo, como la de esta tarde en ExperimentaClub, a partir de las 19.30h , utilizan un equipo especialmente diseñado por ellos mismos Some of the contents of the festival, in their appearance order from this afternoon. This is one of the 10 tracks without name included in a cd released last year by the Thrill Jockey label: the debut of So, combined project of Markus Popp (of Oval, Microstoria) and the Japanese Eriko Toyoda, created in 2002 starting from the revision and deconstrucción of a wide collection of songs recorded previously by her in Japan. For their live performances, as this afternoon in ExperimentaClub, starting from 19.30h, they use equipment specially designed by themselves 02. STRAND Track: Soy Petroleo, soy La Muerte Album: Paz Label: Foehn El madrileño Miguel Gil Tertre, Strand, con una de las canciones de su álbum Paz, editado el año pasado por Foehn Records. Un artista cuyas obras parten de la manipulación de sonidos, explorando las posibilidades del software sobre instrumentos reales, en búsqueda de la emoción. Strand sin embargo no actuará solo esta tarde en ExperimentaClub, a partir de las 20.30h, sino con varios músicos colaboradores: 3 en los scratches y la presencia especial del dúo de improvisación Kompoloi, con piano y cello, junto a la voz de Paloma Sosa de Abner y Kodama Nuzzle Miguel Gil Tertre, Strand, from Madrid, with one of the songs of his album Peace, released last year by Foehn Records. An artist whose works rest of the manipulation of sounds, exploring the possibilities of the software over real instruments, in search of musical emotion. Strand however won't act alone this afternoon in ExperimentaClub, starting from 20.30h, but with several collaborating musicians: 3 in the scratches and the special presence of the improvisation duet Kompoloi, with piano and cello, next to the voice of Paloma Sosa of Abner and Kodama Nuzzle 03. NOVA HUTA Track: Deutsche Filmmusik Album: Mutek 02 Label: Mutek_Rec Records Continuamos con Nova Huta, alias artístico de Günter Reznicek, un subversivo personaje procedente de la ciudad alemana de Hamburgo, entorno del que también proceden algunos de sus amigos como Felix Kubin y Gunter Adler. Nova Huta es, desde 1998, la personal propuesta electro-pop de Reznicek, investigador también en otros campos como la música concreta desde los años 80. Su actuación de esta noche a las 21.15h en Experimentaclub'04 será la primera en nuestro país, en esta ocasión presentando su nuevo disco, "Here Comes My Seltsam Voice" (editado en el sello portugués Variz). Además, a partir de las 22h, podremos ver también a Jason Forrest, alias Donna Summer We continue with Nova Huta, artistic moniker of Günter Reznicek, a subversive character coming from the German city of Hamburg, environment from which some of their friends also proceed, like Felix Kubin and Gunter Adler. Nova Huta is, from 1998, the personal electro-pop proposal of Reznicek, investigator also in other fields as the music concréte from the 80s. His performance tonight at 21.15h in Experimentaclub'04 will be the first in Spain, in this occasion presenting his new record, "Here Comes My Seltsam Voice" (released in the Portuguese label Varix). Also, starting from 22h o'clock, we can see Jason Forrest, alias Donna Summer 04. FENNESZ Track: Circassian Album: Venice Label: Touch La música del austríaco Christian Fennesz, guitarrista e investigador sonoro conceptual, creador de complejos entramados digitales de sonido procesado que desarrollan texturas melódicas y distorsionadas a partes iguales. Su último trabajo, Venice, es posiblemente también el más introspectivo de su carrera. Fennesz actúa el jueves 7 a las 19.30h en el auditorio de La Casa Encendida The music of the Austrian artist Christian Fennesz, guitarist and conceptual sound investigator, creator of complex digital lattices of processed sound that develop melodic and distorted textures. His last work, Venice, is possibly also the most introspective in his career. Fennesz's appearance will take place on Thursday 7th at 19.30h in the auditory 05. MANUAL (WITH JESS KAHR) Track: Always Alone Album: The North Shore Label: Darla El danés Jonas Munk, un artista del siglo XXI dedicado al pop electrónico de bella factura, tanto en solitario con su alias Manual como con su grupo Limp. En su último disco, The North Shore, al que pertenece este corte que escuchamos, colabora de hecho Jess Kahr, uno de sus compañeros en Limp. Sin embargo Munk llegará solo a Madrid para actuar en ExperimentaClub 04, mañana 7 de octubre a las 21.15h The Danish Jonas Munk, an artist of the 21st century dedicated to electronic pop music of beautiful execution, so much in solitary with his alias Manual as with his group Limp. In his last record, The North Shore, collaborates Jess Kahr, in fact one of his partners in Limp. However Munk will arrive alone to Madrid to act in ExperimentaClub 04, October 7th at 21.15h 06. KREIDLER Track: Clockwerk Album: Eve Future Label: Wonder Una formación nacida en 1994 en Dusseldorf, al oeste de Alemania, con unas coordenadas cercanas al post-rock minimalista y al pop electrónico. Se trata de Kreidler, cuarteto reconvertido en trío tras la deserción de Stefan Schneider, con cuatro discos en los últimos 8 años cada vez más cerca de un paisajismo ambiental de corte cinematográfico. Defenderán su propuesta en ExperimentaClub mañana jueves a partir de las 22h en el patio de LCE, un día en el que también podemos disfrutar de los sonidos de la barcelonesa Eli Gras y las visuales de Stan Brakhage, Lillian Schwartz y Jean Painlevé A formation born in 1994 in Dusseldorf, western Germany, with coordinates somehow near to minimalist post-rock and electronic pop music: Kreidler, a quartet turned into a trio after Stefan Schneider's desertion, with four albums in the last 8 years, each time nearer from a cinematographic soundscapism. They will defend their proposal in ExperimentaClub on Thursday, starting from 22h in the patio of LCE, in a day in which we can also enjoy the sounds of Eli Gras from Barcelona and the visuals of Stan Brakhage, Lillian Schwartz and Jean Painlevé 07. CHRIS CLARK Track: Empty the Bones of You Album: Empty the Bones of You Label: Warp Pasamos ahora a repasar las actuaciones del viernes 8 de octubre, comenzando por el británico Chris Clark, uno de los nuevos valores del panorama electrónico reciente que cuenta con el apoyo de la en otros tiempos poderosa compañía Warp Records, cuya actuación está programada para las 19.30h. acompañada por visuales a cargo de Matt Burden The performances of Friday 8 of October, beginning with the British Chris Clark, one of the new values of the recent electronic panorama, that has the support of the another time powerful company Warp Records, whose performance is programmed for 19.30h. accompanied by Matt Burden's visual support 08. PABLO RECHE Track: Constelacion 1 Album: Constelacion Label: Conv Otro de los invitados a la edición 2004 de ExperimentaClub, el argentino Pablo Reche, que destaca por la utilización personal que hace del ruido como elemento expresivo, partiendo de grabaciones de campo, sintetizadores y radios de onda corta que después procesa y ordena para construir obras como esta que suena, una de las piezas incluídas en su disco Constelación, editado hace 4 años y recientemente re-editado por el netlabel Conv. Pablo Reche actuará el viernes después de la barcelonesa y Io Casino, acompañada por el videojockey Edrok, miembro del colectivo Rotok, a partir de las 21.15h en la Sala 2 de LCE Another of the guests in the current edition of ExperimentaClub, the Argentinean Pablo Reche that highlights for the personal use that makes of the noise as an expressive element, starting from field recordings, synthesizers and short wave radio that later he processes and orders to build works like this, one of the included pieces in his Constellation cd, published 4 years ago and recently re-released by the Conv netlabel. Pablo Reche will perform on Friday after the Barcelonese Io Casino, accompanied by the videojockey Edrok, member of the collective Rotok, starting from 21.15h in the Room 2 at LCE 09. FAUST / DÄLEK Track: Collected Twighlight Album: Derbe Respect, Alder Label: Staubgold Tras los sonidos de Pablo reche, continuamos con Faust, una banda mítica del krautrock alemán que viene trabajando desde principios de los 70, explorando el collage sonoro y desarrollando un rock caótico y revolucionario de tintes industriales, si bien abiertos a todo tipo de propuestas: como la que escuchamos, junto a un trío norteamericano de hip-hop llamado Dälek, para el disco de colaboración entre ambos publicado hace unos meses por el sello Staubgold After the sounds of Pablo reche, we continue with Faust, a mythical band of the German krautrock that comes working from the beginning of the 70s, exploring the sound collage and developing a chaotic and revolutionary rock of industrial tints, although open to all type of proposals: as this one, together with a North American hip-hop trio called Dälek, for a collaborative record released some months ago by the Staubgold label 10. FAUST Track: Eroberung Der Stille: teil 2 Album: Rien Label: Table Of The Elements Faust actuarán en el marco del ExperimentaClub este mismo 8 de octubre a las 22h, cerrando la programación del viernes en un concierto muy especial por convertirse en una de las escasas y seleccionadas ocasiones en que se los puede ver en directo. Escuchamos uno de los cortes incluídos en su álbum Rien, publicado originalmente en 1994 y hace poco reeditado por el sello Table of the Elements, una versión maquinal y fantasmagórica de la Sinfonía nº 3 de Gorecki Faust will perform in the ExperimentaClub festival on October 8th at 22h, closing the programming of Friday in a very special concert for becoming one of the scarce and selected occasions in which it is possible to see them live. We listen to one of the cuts included in their album "Rien", released originally in 1994 and recently reissued by the Table of the Elements label, a mechanical and phantasmagoric version of Gorecki's Symphony nº 3 11. DAVID SHEA Track: 8 Scenes For Computer Album: Classic Works 2 Label: Tzadik El sábado, a partir de las 19.30h, actúa otro de los grandes nombres invitados a esta edición de ExperimentaClub: el norteamericano David Shea, un explorador de las tradiciones clásicas de oriente y occidente e investigador de la performance, la danza, la improvisación y la música electrónica, grabando junto a artistas como John Zorn y en sellos como Sub Rosa. Escuchamos uno de los cortes de su último disco, en el sello Tzadik: Classic Works II, una colección de pasajes de música de cámara basados en el uso del sampler, como en este 8 Scenes for Computer On Saturday, starting from 19.30h, another big name invited to this edition of ExperimentaClub: the North American David Shea, an explorer of the classic traditions of east and occident and a investigator of the performance, the dance, the improvisation and the electronic music, recording next to artists like John Zorn and in labels as Sub Rosa. We listen to one of the tracks in his last record, in the Tzadik label: Classic Works II, a collection of passages of chamber music based on the use of the sampler, like in this "8 Scenes for Computer" 12. THE EVOLUTION CONTROL COMMITTEE Track: The Fucking Moon Album: Plagiarhythm Nation v2.0 Label: Seeland / Ecc Una interesante propuesta para el sábado a las 21.15h es la del estadounidense Mark Gunderson, The Evolution Control Committee, que actúa con una especie de aparatosos guantes desde los que maneja un equipo que dispara muestras de audio procedentes de las más diversas grabaciones cualquiera que sea su origen, al modo que actúan otros apropiacionistas como People Like Us o Negativland sin guantes pero también con un subversivo sentido del humor, sobre todo en estos últimos tiempos con las polémicas leyes anti-copyright An interesting proposal for Saturday at 21.15h is that of the American Mark Gunderson, The Evolution Control Committee, that performs with a kind of a spectacular gloves from whose he manages some equipment that shoots audio samples coming from the most diverse recordings whichever it is its origin, in the way that other apropiationists like People Like Us or Negativland act -without gloves but also with a subversive sense of humor, mainly in these last times with the polemic anti-copyright laws 13. TUXEDOMOON Track: Here Till X-mas Album: Cabin In The Sky Label: Crammed Las actuaciones del sábado acaban con el concierto de otro grupo de culto creado hace 27 años en San Francisco, Tuxedomoon, que retornan este 2004 tras varios años de inactividad con un concierto total convertido en espectáculo multimedia. Eso será a las 22h, cerrando un día en el que también podremos escuchar a las francesas Les Moines Fréres y a DJitter, Darío Moratilla, como dj, además de contemplar varios trabajos visuales, entre ellos el de Takagi Masakatsu. Para el domingo quedan las actuaciones de César Manrique de Radio 3 y el alemán Felix Kubin, ambos como djs, en una tarde musical que abre César Pradíes, Dj Onda Sonora, con una sesión especial de hora y media en la que podrás escuchar algunos de los sonidos más interesantes que han pasado por este programa en los últimos meses The performances for Saturday end with the concert of another cult band that was created 27 years ago in San Francisco, Tuxedomoon, that return this 2004 after several years of inactivity with a total concert transformed into a multimedia show. That will be at 22h, closing one day in which we will also listen to the French Les Moines Fréres and to DJitter, Darío Moratilla, as dj, beside contemplating several visual works, among them Takagi Masakatsu's. For Sunday there are some more performances of Diego Manrique of Radio 3 and the German Félix Kubin, both as djs, in a musical afternoon that will be opened by Cesar Pradíes, Dj Onda Sonora, with a special session an hour and a half long, in which we will listen some of the most interesting sounds that filled this program in the last months ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡100 MB GRATIS! 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Tue Oct 5 19:58:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32280-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77402 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:58:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 77392 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:58:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit holy shit. I come from Michigan, and I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the low-key microsound board about power electronics-style noise, which is the sort of stuff we listen to around here. I don't really know where to begin here to tell you what it's like musically with this stuff. In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes and the American Tapes label which despite what any of you laptoppers think remains great. We also have Animal Disguise run by Mammal with Viki and Hair Police and a bunch of other people on it. And there's a bunch of smaller labels around here too, I don't want to have to list them. Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From label (http://www.freedom-from.com/) with a bunch of stuff on it, a lot of it isn't noise but a lot of it is. If you go to their links page you will find a bunch of labels that have noisyness on them, you probably haven't heard of a lot of it. Then of course there's Providence RI, from which comes the Load records label (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This label houses a good synthesis of noise and metal, with people like Lightning Bolt, Nautical Almanac, and Metalux holding court. And Fort Thunder was from Providence too, which is important. Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming from these days, so go check it out. bill --Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 21:08:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32281-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3910 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:08:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 3900 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:08:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:07:21 -0500 From: Jeffrey Matz <xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core X-Originating-IP: [4.159.218.211] X-Sender: xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx To: microsound <microsound%hyperreal.orgxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2004 21:08:12.0225 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C489B10:01C4AB1F] --Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for the love of god, one more genre with "core" at the end of it and i'll scream... if you're wondering, when people ask me what kind of music i make, i tell em scrap-pop. hyphenates seem to be a little less irritating to me. anybody wanna help invent "core-core?" --Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 21:47:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32282-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17501 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:47:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 17491 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:47:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] BROKEN SLEEP winter european tour..looking for gigs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx January 25 - February 7 2005 mp3 links- http://freewebs.com/brokensleep contact- monotonaut at yahoo dot ca Broken Sleep is the dark, abstract dronescape project of Colin Hendry. He was a founding member of the now-defunct Mediacore collective, which organized "low-brow" experimental and hardcore electronic music events in Vancouver, Canada. His "glitchcomassault" often also includes lo-fi analogue field recordings. He has opened for artists such as Pan Sonic, Synapscape, Crank Sturgeon, Dev79, and Dave Phillips. This will be his third small European tour and second as "Broken Sleep". The name has sonic and symbolic meaning, and is a common experience for this graveyard shift worker. ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:12:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32283-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27646 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:12:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 27635 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:12:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:15:23 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nice. one of my secrets is hooking up two digital vcrs, the player on fastforward or rewind and the other one just recording the output. the results are great, depending on the source material... then you take it to the next level by using the record tape as the play tape, and so forth forever and ever and ever... graham. ale*** wrote: > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:38:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32284-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36567 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 36556 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AC.17 - Chicago 10/10/04 - Jon Muller + Steve Hess, Jason Soliday To: xxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx crossposted... AC.17 Please join us for the fall series of AC events. These performances feature improvised electroacoustic music in a comfortable, intimate setting, designed to encourage active listening. We have relocated so please take note of the new address. 10/10/04, Sunday, 7pm: _Jon Muller and Steven Hess _Jason Soliday Since this is a private residence, you *must* RSVP to attend. Show starts at 7pm. Free, donations welcome. Refreshments provided. The Den 1349 N. Washtenaw #1F Chicago IL 60622 Please e-mail xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx or call 773.394.2906 for an RSVP or for more information. Other dates in this series: 10/24, 11/7 and 11/21, with more details to follow. v' __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. 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Tue Oct 5 22:39:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32285-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38407 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 38397 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:51 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks for the information! A little power electronics will keep you from going insane when surrounded by a bunch of academic nonsense all the time. (Not that all academic music is nonsense.) - John On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:58 PM, xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > holy shit. > I come from Michigan, and I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the > low-key microsound board about power electronics-style noise, which is > the sort of > stuff we listen to around here. > I don't really know where to begin here to tell you what it's like > musically > with this stuff. > In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes and the American Tapes label which > despite what > any of you laptoppers think remains great. We also have Animal > Disguise run > by Mammal with Viki and Hair Police and a bunch of other people on it. > And > there's a bunch of smaller labels around here too, I don't want to > have to list > them. > Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From label > (http://www.freedom-from.com/) > with a bunch of stuff on it, a lot of it isn't noise but a lot of it > is. If > you go to their links page you will find a bunch of labels that have > noisyness > on them, you probably haven't heard of a lot of it. > Then of course there's Providence RI, from which comes the Load > records label > (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This label houses a good synthesis of > noise > and metal, with people like Lightning Bolt, Nautical Almanac, and > Metalux > holding court. And Fort Thunder was from Providence too, which is > important. > > Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming > from > these days, so go check it out. > bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:39:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32286-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39258 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 39245 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:19 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 5:07 PM, Jeffrey Matz wrote: > when people ask me what kind of music i make, i tell em scrap-pop. When people ask me, I tell them they don't want to know. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:58:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32287-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44644 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:57:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 44622 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:57:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:57:53 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > anybody wanna help invent "core-core?" FWIW the Norwegian spootcore band ArtSkool has been adding a core suffix to most of their songs for about a decade, genres like like foamcore, grannycore, every song a unique genre. Sometimes they also add trendy lefty terminology, you know, issue manifestos, agit propagate, add "-ista" to nouns ending in an "n" http://zuzula.com/artist.php?id=47 > There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? There's always what I'd consider a sort of "bad boy" posture - to embrace what's considered extremely "out" especially if you are in a scene that makes claims to pushing boundaries and exploring the extremes, etc. nicholas d. kent --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 23:01:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32288-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46482 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:00:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 46236 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:00:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 00:05:05 +0100 From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <20041006000505.799d1f2e.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: gavmusic MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:07:38 EDT xxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > Hello is there anyone here that collects random or algorithmic music > generators? > I like to find one that supports Musical forms such as rondo ,A-B-C, > Rhapsody Ect.. > It must be able to save or export the songs As Midi Files. > I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul Whalley Programs > prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. thanks for any And All > help Mg3Nc . Hi, I've got quite a collection that I backed-up to CD from when I used to run Windows. I'm not sure about structural detail like rondo etc., though. I'll take a look on the CD & see what I've got. Another avenue worth exploring is to install the superb Atari ST emulator STeem (or XSteem for Linux), which opens up a whole new universe of fractal/algorithmic apps. I'll write more when I've looked at what I have. Gavin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:26:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32289-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99842 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:26:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 99825 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:26:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:54:45 +0930 From: Ritchie <x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [202.174.33.163] X-Sender: x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 01:25:03.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DEC0B10:01C4AB43] Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind band called DEADpool. Ritchie http://ninja.at/play __o __o _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) > Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and > death metal. > > I present some examples: > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of > canada: glitched out grindcore) > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular > vocal processing at end of song) > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular > processing at start of song) > > all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four > years old. > > Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:44:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32290-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4205 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:44:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 4195 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:44:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:43:18 +0200 From: peewee <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01fb01c4ab45$f843c2e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yeah, especialy like GCTT CATT - amperase album cover on mego > they look like mego or mille plautux album covers.................instant pimmon art --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:46:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32291-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5446 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:46:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 5436 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:46:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:49:18 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the third floor of this club (books on tape - ick). the second floor had some death metal group. bored to tears with the nerd techno upstairs i ventured down to the second level and dived into the trenched with the goths (essentially nerds of another kind). they growled at me. the 16th note machine gun fire double kick drum rhythms kill me. dropped guitar tunings like no tomorrow. so great i couldn't wipe the smile off my face. i'm a novice here. it was such a joyous experience. i'm not sure if laughing was the intended result but it killed me. i thought it was great. so evil it's hilarious. way more joy than the pretension upstairs. that's what always gets me about NIN and dark heavy stuff (techno included)... if it's so evil why does it make me so happy? g. Ritchie wrote: > Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind > band called DEADpool. > > Ritchie > http://ninja.at/play > __o __o > _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ > (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) > > > Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and > > death metal. > > > > I present some examples: > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of > > canada: glitched out grindcore) > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular > > vocal processing at end of song) > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular > > processing at start of song) > > > > all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four > > years old. > > > > Anthony > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:58:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32292-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8779 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:58:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 8769 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:58:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:57:42 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx kevin drumm's recent works "sheer hellish miasma", "frozen by blizzard winds", "land of lurches", "impish tyrant", reflect his interest in extreme death metal bands, such as havohej... imhofwiw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 02:38:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32293-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21100 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:38:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 21089 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:38:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:47 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD88D2F7.31F5%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/5/04 9:49 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the third > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). the second floor had some death > metal group. bored to tears with the nerd techno upstairs i ventured down to > the second level and dived into the trenched with the goths (essentially > nerds of another kind). they growled at me. the 16th note machine gun fire > double kick drum rhythms kill me. dropped guitar tunings like no tomorrow. so > great i couldn't wipe the smile off my face. i'm a novice here. it was such a > joyous experience. i'm not sure if laughing was the intended result but it > killed me. i thought it was great. so evil it's hilarious. way more joy than > the pretension upstairs. that's what always gets me about NIN and dark heavy > stuff (techno included)... if it's so evil why does it make me so happy? > > g. > > Ritchie wrote: > >> Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind >> band called DEADpool. >> >> Ritchie >> http://ninja.at/play >> __o __o >> _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ >> (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) >> >>> Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and >>> death metal. >>> >>> I present some examples: >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of >>> canada: glitched out grindcore) >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular >>> vocal processing at end of song) >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular >>> processing at start of song) >>> >>> all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four >>> years old. >>> >>> Anthony >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 02:55:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32294-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27032 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:55:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 27015 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:55:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:58:06 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg)" X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD88D2F7.31F5%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > not sure if sad and dark are the same thing. why do people love blade runner so? jean-pierre jeunet? anne rice? there is beauty in darkness. and while i have never heard that quote, it's very nice... even though i don't consider myself sad. at least anymore. i do love anger though. i wish there was more in microsound. punk is a beautiful expression of the human condition. there's bit of punk in all things great. g. > > > > > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 03:28:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32295-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41006 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 40994 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:28:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:27:57 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx could someone start a TWiki page with links for AlgoMus generators? 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Wed Oct 6 03:40:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32296-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46089 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:40:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 46079 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:40:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:39:40 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 03:40:01.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[28E8D060:01C4AB56] I am much in favor of sludge metal, stuff like Eyehategod, Melvins, Cavity, Boris, Earth, Sabbath. Good to see some talk about noise, keeps things interesting. Drumm is great if you have not listened, his cd comedy is a good one and the one with Dorner on erstwhile is excellent. Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 05:41:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32297-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79254 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:41:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 79242 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:41:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:40:37 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx haha HAVOHEJ!!!! "I vomit on god's child!" Never anticipated seeing them mentioned on this list! "Frozen By Blizzard Winds" sounds like an Immortal song title... Anthony metalhead and microsounder On Oct 5, 2004, at 9:57 PM, <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > kevin drumm's recent works "sheer hellish miasma", "frozen by blizzard > winds", "land of lurches", "impish tyrant", reflect his interest in > extreme > death metal bands, such as havohej... > imhofwiw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 06:16:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32298-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16994 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:16:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 16975 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:16:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Polta <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and Mick (MJ) Harris. Harris was for a while associted with extreme metal outfit Napalm Death (cited in one interview as a fave of F. Lopez). His Scorn project brought this dark intensity to a techno/dub sorta thang and the Lull moniker is purely intense throbbing drone. Collaborations with Bill Laswell and james Plotkin have also brought him into slowed down ambient territory. (Napalm Death is rumored to have released an LP with--so it is claimed--over one hundred songs on it as well as a 7" with over 1000! How's that for micro-metal??) Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself incorporated strange techno/industrial elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume dirges and super low, room-rumbling frequencies--perhaps another Lopez connection??) and other aggressive noisy projects but has also produced very nice subtle guitar drone things (some in collaboration with KK Null, "known" for his involveent with the grungy Zeni Geva (see their collab CD AURORA). The various comps, "Throne of Drones," "Swarm of Drones" (don't know the labels) include tracks by these guys and document others of similar veins well. Don't know if it's technnically "microsound" and I'm hardly an authority on either's vast outputs but, well... there you go. --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Gregory Elliott wrote: > > > Well, there is the overlap between microsound and > speed metal where > > Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's > speed metal band > > rehearsing as source material (apparantly > Francisco Lopez at least > > really likes speed and death metal, and I myself > have to admit a > > certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that > makes for a genre > > overlap, but it's interesting anyway. > > Indeed, I've used samples of Slayer in my works. > I've also used samples > of Britney Spears and MC Hammer though... > > > As far as the american idea of noise, the way I > understand it from > > hearing about it from others, is that there is a > distinction between > > noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, > etc.) and 'powernoise', > > which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy > beat based > > industrial stuff > > There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider > powernoise, mostly > from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as > powernoise is too much > nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for > my tastes, so I > can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen > stuff hard techno or > something like that... after all, it really is just > noisy, crap techno > (redundant, I know). > > I love Cock ESP. > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 06:25:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32299-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19403 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:25:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 19393 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:25:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:24:41 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 6, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Steve Polta wrote: > (Napalm Death is rumored to have released > an LP with--so it is claimed--over one hundred songs > on it as well as a 7" with over 1000! How's that for > micro-metal??) Neither are true. The cd with Scum and From Enslavement To Obliteration probably has about 54 tracks on it however. F.E.T.O. is one of my all time favorite albums. Anal Cunt released a 5,643 Song 7", where they recorded live to tape on each of the 8 tracks on an 8 track recorder. Sounds amazing, a total wash of brutal screaming and guitars and drums. There is a recent Agoraphobic Nosebleed 3" cd with 100 tracks on it (starting in the negative before track 1, and then going all the way to track 99.) I also have an old 7" by the band Seven Minutes of Nausea called XX which has 320 songs on it. It's a 45, and it is actually possible to follow the lyric sheet along with the record. Almost all of the songs sound exactly the same besides the vocals. (band is only bass guitar and voice, if I remember correctly.) Khanate are great. Btw, the rare OLD/Assück split 7" has the best OLD stuff on it, imho. It's fast drum machine based material that sounds half way between the comedy-grindcore of the Total Hag lp and the prog/psyche weirdness of Lo Flux Tube. Anthony able to leap tall buildings and answer metal trivia in a single bound. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 13:11:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32300-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23366 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:11:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 23354 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:11:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:10:27 -0500 From: xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx (Patrick Carey) Subject: [microsound] Re: powernoise X-Sender: xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v02110104bd89910a28dd@[142.150.128.235]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx * chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the >same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG >tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits >and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, >and slogun. * Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >I on the other hand was under the impression that "power noise" and >"power electronics" were very different. PE being Whitehouse, Sutcliffe >Jugend, Genocide Organ, Con-Dom, Grey Wolves, Taint, Grunt, Slogun, >etc, and PN being Ant-Zen style rhythmic noise. This is pretty much how I've always seen it. PN being a *much* more recent strain of "noise", with emphasis on rhythm, and even "beats" (evolving from, among other things, stuff like The Klinik, PIAS & KK bands; take Dirk Ivens f.e. going from The Klinik -> Dive -> Sonar, certainly a staple of modern PN), unlike most of the PE artists mentioned above. No doubt many of the young Ant-Zen'rs have GO, WH, early SPK & TG in their bins though. * xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx: >I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the low-key microsound board >about power electronics-style noise... In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes >and the American Tapes label... Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From >label (http://www.freedom-from.com/)... If you go to their links page >you will find a bunch of labels that have noisyness on them, you probably >haven't heard of a lot of it. Then of course there's Providence RI, from >which comes the Load records label (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This >label houses a good synthesis of noise and metal... >Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming >from these days, so go check it out. I wouldn't classify Wolf Eyes, much on American Tapes, or anything on Load as "Power Electronics". Freedom From comes much closer to having artists that fit this description, but as with AT and Load, most are just "noisy". I'm certainly unaware of recent developments in this area, but I always thought folks like Slogun, Taint, Bloodyminded (ex-IA, a WH clone) & Knurl were the top of the NA PE contingent. -Patrick NP: Rokia Traoré - "Bowmboï" [Brilliant gig a few nights back] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 14:14:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32301-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47331 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:14:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 47320 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:14:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:28:54 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210603bd89b081b760@[64.63.223.65]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into >the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at >times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and >Mick (MJ) Harris. if we're going in that direction, then i have to mention ulver, who were an open-minded black metal band with folk touches . over the years they added trip-hop beats and classical textures, then removed the metal part almost entirely, became dark electro-prog, created EPs of clicks and cuts mixed with melodic piano, and invited a host of underground names to remix their old work to become experimental electronics and noise. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 14:55:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32302-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69484 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:55:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 69472 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:55:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:58:36 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx other than robocop? anyone? anyone? bueller? thx g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 16:43:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32303-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27180 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 27148 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:42:39 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c4abc3$7e22f890$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://us.imdb.com/List?endings=on&&locations=Detroit,%20Michigan,%20USA &&heading=18;with+locations+including;Detroit,%20Michigan,%20USA you just have to find which ones are sci-fi. S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Envoyé : mercredi 6 octobre 2004 15:59 À : Microsound Objet : [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? other than robocop? anyone? anyone? bueller? thx g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:09:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32304-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43473 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:09:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 43463 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:09:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:09:17 -0700 From: Ryan Dunn <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cd's 1 - mp3's 0 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx oh yes, CDs *versus* digital music formats. Haha. On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml? > type=technologyNews&storyID=6344825&src=rss/ > technologyNews§ion=news > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:13:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32305-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47402 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:13:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 47392 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:13:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:13:11 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8975B7.8AFF%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/5/04 10:40 PM, Anthony Saunders at xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > "Frozen By Blizzard Winds" sounds like an Immortal song title... wasn't that by derek holzer or someone? > b. > Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me > "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself > incorporated strange techno/industrial > elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" > group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume > dirges and super low, room-rumbling you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think members of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to be good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:29:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32306-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56616 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 56590 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:28:24 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for September 29, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/09/29 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > Scott Fields Ensemble > Christangelfox > (excerpt) > Christangelfox > 482 Music > > > > Sophie > Agnel/Christine > Wodrascka > Machine > Cuerdas > Emouvance > > > Alvin > Curran/Domenico > Sciajno > Someone to > Watch Over > What > Our Ur > Rossbin > Productions > > > > John Heward Trio > Let Them Pass > Three > Let them Pass > Drimala Records > > > > John Butcher/Gino > Robair > Fid > New Oakland Burr > Rastascan Records > > > > R. Friedi/B. 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Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:30:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32307-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57911 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:30:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 57901 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:30:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:50 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 17:30:02.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C5F7D20:01C4ABCA] White 1 and White 2 are single discs, not double releases, both are excellent, athough hyped by The Wire. They thank Russel Haswell in the liner notes. Each cd has three long tracks. Totally influenced by Sludge masters Earth. Good stuff. Scott > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think members >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to be >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:36:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32308-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61324 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:36:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 61314 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:36:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:35:14 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 17:36:04.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[F43F0210:01C4ABCA] > > Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me > > "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself > > incorporated strange techno/industrial > > elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" > > group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume > > dirges and super low, room-rumbling > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think >members >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to >be >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. You should check out the 'Flight of the Behemoth' album by Sunn0)) Roughly half of the album is in collaberation with Merzbow (the tracks Bow1 and Bow2) with noise washes and avant guarde piano work over doom metal riffs slowed to a drone. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:58:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32309-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74476 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:57:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 74463 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:57:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:57:58 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal into microsound To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into >the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at >times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and >Mick (MJ) Harris. if we're going in that direction, then i have to mention ulver, who were an open-minded black metal band with folk touches . over the years they added trip-hop beats and classical textures, then removed the metal part almost entirely, became dark electro-prog, created EPs of clicks and cuts mixed with melodic piano, and invited a host of underground names to remix their old work into experimental electronics and noise. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 19:08:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32310-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5651 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:08:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 5637 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:08:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:08:50 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] RE: Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <014901c4abd7$ea545450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Done. But this is not my area so I have just put up a link to "The Fractal Music Lab" which seems to be a good online resource. http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/AlgoMus /Björn > could someone start a TWiki page with links for AlgoMus generators? > KIM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 21:27:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32311-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81918 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:26:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 81907 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:26:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:26:53 -0400 From: Michael Greenwood <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The White1 and White2 albums are, however, double lps and in the case of White2, there is an extra song on side 4 that is not on the compact disc version. White1 has an etching on that side. Speaking of SunnO)))...I would love to trade a brand spanking new and sealed copy of White2 (1000 pressed) for a new or used copy of 'Flight of the Behemoth' if anybody is interested. There can also be a small amount of money on my end as well. Anyway, get in touch if this sounds like your thing. All the best, Michael Greenwood Canada scott allison wrote: > White 1 and White 2 are single discs, not double releases, both are > excellent, athough hyped by The Wire. They thank Russel Haswell in the liner > notes. Each cd has three long tracks. Totally influenced by Sludge masters > Earth. Good stuff. > > Scott > > > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think > members > >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is > supposeed to be > >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , > which > >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:09:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32312-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97999 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:09:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 97988 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:09:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you understand (or are willing to learn) some lisp, and your platform is mac, i've found http://www.koncon.nl/ACToolbox/ to be pretty friendly. i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. p > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:05:05 +0100 > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic > Music Genrators > Message-Id: > <20041006000505.799d1f2e.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:07:38 EDT > xxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > > > > Hello is there anyone here that collects random or > algorithmic music > > generators? > > I like to find one that supports Musical forms > such as rondo ,A-B-C, > > Rhapsody Ect.. > > It must be able to save or export the songs As > Midi Files. > > I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul > Whalley Programs > > prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. > thanks for any And All > > help Mg3Nc . > > Hi, > > I've got quite a collection that I backed-up to CD > from when I used to > run Windows. I'm not sure about structural detail > like rondo etc., > though. I'll take a look on the CD & see what I've > got. > > Another avenue worth exploring is to install the > superb Atari ST > emulator STeem (or XSteem for Linux), which opens up > a whole new > universe of fractal/algorithmic apps. > > I'll write more when I've looked at what I have. > > Gavin. > ===== Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:23:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32313-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6348 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:23:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 6325 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:23:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:23:00 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >if you understand (or are willing to learn) some lisp, >and your platform is mac, i've found >http://www.koncon.nl/ACToolbox/ to be pretty friendly. -Both Mac OS9 & Mac OS X. >i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... Paul Berg's ACToolbo is free. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:33:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32314-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11925 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:32:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 11914 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:32:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:32:54 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302bd8a22ab9e1a@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. >-Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have > too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... -I've have to correct that: ircam's program is called Open Music. Common Music also exists and uses the C-language. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:46:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32315-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16449 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:46:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 16439 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:46:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:45:55 -0400 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the > third > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). just to clear up a popular misconception: as anyone who would have seen him live could attest, books on tape does NOT in fact use a laptop. whatever is called "lame laptop crap" thus is likely to have been another act. & a personal note on the topic: having seen a lot of electronic shows in the past years, i can only say that books on tape's performances are never anything short of great & entertaining & the antithesis of the cliché of a "laptop show", not that there's anything wrong with the latter. i would have to wholeheartedly recommend that anybody with a wee bit of openness in them do check his live set out next time he comes to your city. that being said, have a nice day ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:54:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32316-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21741 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:54:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 21731 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:54:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:54:50 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00c201c4abf7$7c519650$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think it might be free if we're talking about the Common Music to be found here: http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html Pointers to Public Domain Lisp-compilers to be found there too... I have put up pointers to both softwares over at the TWiki. /Björn >>i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. > -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have > too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... > > Paul Berg's ACToolbo is free. > > AvS > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 23:12:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32317-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29124 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:12:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 29114 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:12:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:11:59 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <00c201c4abf7$7c519650$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303bd8a2b80b169@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Pointers to Public Domain Lisp-compilers to be found there too... -However: "Macintosh Common Lisp (MCL): A full-featured commercial CL available for Macintosh. Includes a native CLOS, true multi-processing, and a graphical interface." Which is what ircam's open music needs, for which yo have to pay (which is fine by me if you are willing...). AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 23:48:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32318-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39837 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:41:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 39826 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:41:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:44:26 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx each to their own... david turgeon wrote: > > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the > > third > > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). > > just to clear up a popular misconception: as anyone who would have seen > him live could attest, books on tape does NOT in fact use a laptop. > whatever is called "lame laptop crap" thus is likely to have been > another act. > > & a personal note on the topic: having seen a lot of electronic shows > in the past years, i can only say that books on tape's performances are > never anything short of great & entertaining & the antithesis of the > cliché of a "laptop show", not that there's anything wrong with the > latter. > > i would have to wholeheartedly recommend that anybody with a wee bit of > openness in them do check his live set out next time he comes to your > city. > > that being said, > > have a nice day > ~ david > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 00:53:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32319-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65731 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:53:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 65720 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:53:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:20 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] sad songs To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? empathy is relieving though doesn't sound quite so poetic > not sure if sad and dark are the same thing. why do people love blade > runner so? > jean-pierre jeunet? anne rice? there is beauty in darkness. and while > i have never > heard that quote, it's very nice... If done well it's constructing a world with a focus on a mood, a narrowing of emotions. > even though i don't consider myself sad. at > least anymore. i do love anger though. i wish there was more in > microsound. punk > is a beautiful expression of the human condition. there's bit of punk > in all > things great. There are numerous exceptions but I'm convinced by and large microsound is more about process and experimenting. I mean I'm sure it can be microsound and express a mood. While I'm sure one can interpret something as having more of one kind of mood than another, but still, I mostly hear people expressing the desire not to consciously set a mood. ndkent http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:18:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32320-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77011 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:18:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 77001 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:18:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This whole thing about "sadness" and "darkness" seems to me to be waaay off the point when talking about certainly the power-electronics field but also a lot of music that you are lumping into these larger groups, be it metal, industrial, what have you. There always seems to be a lot of other weird cultural and post(yaaaawn)modern detritus clumped to it. People didn't chose analog and trash because it's angstier or angrier, they chose weird broken down stuff because of it's reto or contemporary or cool or uncool associations. Also it relates to primal musical stuff, like the resurrection of dead flesh, long ago being a turtle shell or antelope horn something and nowadays being a telephone or some other garbage. And there's a lot of other really specific cultural push and pull that people can't describe but can sense, stuff that will probably not survive more than like a decade of cultural memory or about a 500 mile geographic radius, but who cares what our grandkids are going to think of our music anyways. All this shit went down with punk too, but people seem to remember it only in terms of really general descriptions like "angry." Also, mr. Wolf Eyes and their label isn't noise guy, didn't Kevin Drumm record for both Mego and the American Tapes/Wolf Eyes label Hanson? Whether or not I spelled Kevin's name right just now, you have to agree that it's noise. So there. --Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:32:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32321-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84401 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:32:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 84391 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:32:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:31:53 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [141.156.38.239] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 01:32:00.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[71304E40:01C4AC0D] Cool, didnt know that about the lp's, also didnt mean to come off with additude or anything. best scott >The White1 and White2 albums are, however, double lps and in the case of >White2, there is an extra song on side 4 that is not on the compact disc >version. White1 has an etching on that side. > >Speaking of SunnO)))...I would love to trade a brand spanking new and sealed >copy of White2 (1000 pressed) for a new or used copy of 'Flight of the >Behemoth' if anybody is interested. There can also be a small amount of money >on my end as well. Anyway, get in touch if this sounds like your thing. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:50:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32322-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91407 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:49:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 91396 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:49:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that last post there, guys. I have a habit of getting ahead of myself sometimes... Oh, while I'm here, anyone hear or know anything by that Konono No1 band yet? I don't have music but the concept and pictures alone are making my mouth water. --Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 02:42:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32323-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10042 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:42:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 10023 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:42:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:56:57 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs broken down In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bd8a608367b4@[64.63.223.65]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >People didn't chose analog and trash because it's >angstier or angrier, they chose weird broken down stuff because of >it's reto or >contemporary or cool or uncool associations. in the past people used that stuff because it's all they had access to or could afford. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 05:13:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32324-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50940 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:13:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 50930 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:13:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:12:08 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal vs cage X-Originating-IP: [141.156.38.239] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 05:13:00.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[50E85B40:01C4AC2C] Funny, found this by accident, doing some research, ended up in the archives for a list about silence and Cage, anyway there is an interesting thread titled "Cage as Forerunner of Heavy Metal?" Interesting related reading from the past. http://www.newalbion.com/artists/cagej/silence/html/1998q1/0145.html best Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 06:47:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32325-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78401 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:47:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 78390 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:47:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From Aquariusrecords.org.... LOPEZ, FRANCISCO Untitled 104 (Alien8) cd 14.98 I kid you not. This is the album where Lopez goes metal. Not the recording of sheet metal resonance, not the amplified vibrations of metal molecules, not even the inactivity of two pieces of sheet metal thoughtfully sitting alone in a room with nothing to ponder but their own existential (in)audibility. The normally sedate Lopez goes metal like Emperor, Slayer, or Cradle of Filth. If anybody has recently witnessed the cascading power of Lopez's recent live shows, then "Untitled 104" is certainly not a surprise. Of course, Lopez sets everything up with 4 minutes of his usual silence, before a tumultuous assault of sampled metal blast beats destroys any semblence of serenity. Lopez layers wave after wave of rhythmic clatter that reveals an incredible amount of textural noise. One blast beat takes the aural center stage, and you find yourself asking "Huh? Is this Cannibal Corpse? Or was that last one from Morbid Angel? I don't know." (Actually, we suspect that all the samples are from one band, but even the metal minds here at AQ haven't confidently guessed which one.) Lopez could have unwittingly devised the ultimate trivia contest for metalheads to name the sample. 35 minutes pass (35 head spinning, if not head banging minutes) and then the metal rhythms stop. Ten more minutes of silence provide the coda. While this record is really fucking good (indeed, it's one of Jim's favorites of the year along with Reynols' "Blank Tapes"), it is also another example of the academic / art world colonization of metal. Like Matthew Barney's awe-inspiring image in "Cremaster 2" of Dave Lombardo hammering at his drum kit behind the sound of swarming bees, Lopez's "Untitled 104" effectively translates the pure masculine power of metal to an audience who may not care for the, uh, aesthetics of metal. Fortunately, it appears that Lopez and Barney do not approach metal with a snobbish irony (like Harmony Korine's reprehensible photo-enlargements of black metal album covers that sold for tens of thousands of dollars), but such appropriation nevertheless marginalizes metal as nothing more than a texture or an attitude, far from the vibrant and deviant culture that it is. Rant aside, if this record causes one fan of Bernhard Gunter to get into Burzum, then, as far as Aquarius Records is concerned, Lopez has succeeded. Recommended. Realaudio: http://www.aquariusrecords.org/audio/franciscolopezu104.rm (I can't confirm that the link works. Realaudio hasn't worked correctly on any of my computers in years. Each "upgrade" gets worse. The newest one doesn't play music but does play tv commercials when I don't ask it to.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 10:08:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32327-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31136 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:08:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 31113 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:08:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:08:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Niko Skorpio <xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound vs death metal! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx How about: REPTILJAN: Pangrenade http://www.someplaceelse.net/sound/lores/028_reptiljan_pangrenade.mp3 (lo-res mp3) It's from the Reptiljan / Ibrahim Terzic split 7". http://www.someplaceelse.net/releases/?id=spe7sp03028 Reptiljan will play live in Turku, Finland tomorrow. We'll probably share the live recording as mp3 afterwards, so if the above turns you on keep an eye on us. "Pangrenade" is a year old now so the sound has (d)evolved a bit. Niko -- record label ....... http://www.someplaceelse.net personal ................. http://nikoskorpio.net graphic design ............... http://moopica.com random chaos ................... http://kaaos.org Some Place Else | Box 685 | 20101 Turku | Finland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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