From Kreig.Zimmerman Sent Fri, Jun 19th 1998, 19:28
From Kreig.Zimmerman Sent Fri, Jun 19th 1998, 19:28
Oh no...
Does the term "progressive house" ring any bells?
Face it... once the music gains the identity, for better or for worse
you are stuck with it. Progressive rock meant pushing the boundaries,
experimentation, _Can_, but it also meant excessively
over-intectuallized, ponderous bull-shucks. Progressive house,
something of the same thing (let's not forget it was esentially a
techno derivative for those "in the know"). And then there was
intelligent jungle, which basically once again was those two things.
The thing is pretentious or not, you can't help the value judgment
that's going to be attached to the music. Just stick with IDM. If
someone gives you attitude, that's their problem. If because you
listen to or create IDM _you_ have an attitude, that's your problem.
No matter how you try to purge a word of its connotations, semantic
connections will creep forward that were never originally intended.
After all, "juvenile delinquent" and "mentally retarded" were terms
originally coined to get rid of the values associated with the old
terms, but they came to represent negative things anyway (as I'm sure
you can tell if you were ever called a "retard" or a "jd" in grade
school =).
IDM is IDM, and hey, like another friend of mine said once, "What's
wrong with being pretentious?" ;)
Peace,
K Rock-Ski
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Subject: Re: (idm) The 'I' in 'IDM'
Author: idm-owner-Kreig.Zimmerman=xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx at SMTP
Date: 6/19/98 12:24 PM
how about a kind of parallel to progressive rock? prog rock
listeners usually consider their music to be pushing the boundaries
of rock, while we consider IDM to be pushing the boundaries of
techno...so perhaps something along the lines of prog techno or
progressive electronic music (PEM) would be a bit more descriptive
(and wouldn't sound as uppety as "intelligent dance music" can sound
to someone unfamiliar with the term)
-brad