From richard chartier Sent Tue, Mar 1st 2005, 03:15
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> LINE | FEB.28.2005 > > new release - AVAILABLE NOW > > artist: ASMUS TIETCHENS > title: E-MENGE > cat.no: LINE020 > release: MARCH.05 > edition: 500 > > http://www.12k.com/line > > LINE is proud to present e-Menge the new installment of the Mengen > series from influential German electronic music pioneer Asmus > Tietchens. LINE will be releasing the subsequent works in this series. > Epsilon-Menge means Epsilon quantity. > > The four pieces of this recording represent my aesthetic approach to > space. Space not as in a "spacey" or astronomic sense, but space as an > extension of the three-dimensional region in which we exist. Caused by > acoustic foregrounds and acoustic backgrounds, spaces of different > capacities occur. In the early 20th century the fine arts began to > abolished spatiality, I wish to restore it by sound. > - Asmus Tietchens, 2005 > > > Asmus Tietchens' first released his unique electronic music in 1980, > but created works since the late 1960s. Since then he has produced > about 30 more cutting edge recordings on numerous international labels > dealing with electronic sound and conctrete music. Other > collaborationive projects include the ongoing Kontakt der Jünglinge > with Thomas Köner. Tietchens' focus is the manipulation of found sound > in ways suggested by the material itself. German label Die Stadt has > begun to reissue his groundbreaking early works on cd in limited > edition. His latest critically acclaimed project, a series based > strictly on sine tones and white noise is the "Mengen" series released > by Ritornell/Mille Plateaux (Alpha-, Beta- and Gamma-Menge). > > -- > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 12k | LINE | HAPPY > WWW.12K.COM > > NOW: > CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] > CD: January [Spekk, Japan] > CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] > LIVE: Presences Electronique | Feb.18 | Paris > > SOON: > CD: Taylor Deupree & Kenneth Kirschner Post_Piano 2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 1 01:17:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34597-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73028 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:17:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 73017 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:17:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:17:26 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1038-ACD4462F89EF11D99473000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak wrote on 2/28/05: >I think my comments make sense when read in context... John- Didn't catch Filipe's original post and I think your comments do make sense in context. So apologies. A shame everyone's hunkered down in their bunkers, however... Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 1 00:24:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34596-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48406 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:24:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 48360 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:24:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:23:57 +0900 From: Shinjiro_Yamaguchi <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] New Japanese CD-R Label by Hiroyuki Ura and ASAMO To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail-inter7 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, We are proud to announce our first CD-R release venture "TWOLINES". TWO LINES is a new japanese cd-r label launched 2004. we have two series REGARDS and RE:LETTERS. The former is the series of sounds which is considered to be music. >past release : TWO LINES (RGRD01) | URA + SH_YA April 2004 $B!D!D(B The latter is the series of live and fieldrecording works. >NEW release : shibuya at intervals (RLTR01) | hiroyuki ura vs. asamo February 2005 $B!D!D(B >ALL ITEMS are 10 euro include shipping. available here http://www.two-lines.org visit.. have fun :) Thanks for your time all the very best Shinjiro Yamaguchi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 28 23:59:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34595-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37481 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:59:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 37467 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:59:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:59:34 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <r02010400-1038-166E92CD89AE11D98F5F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1038-166E92CD89AE11D98F5F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:27 PM, vze26m98 wrote: > John Nowak wrote on 2/26/05: > >> Unquestionably correct. Do not even consider a music-centric program. >> You'll end up jamming pencils in your ears within a week. > > Hey John- > > I'm reminded of J. C.'s comment about pulling the pencils from your own > eyes before you get started on the pencils of others... > > laissez faire, > > Tad "I´m very interested in music but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m more into the relationship between the new digital media and specially sound." - Filipe Galante I think my comments make sense when read in context... perhaps you should take your own advice. Sorry if something I said put you on the defensive, but that's really something you need to address, and not due to any fault on my part. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Feb 28 17:28:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34593-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38034 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 38024 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:28:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:27:57 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1038-166E92CD89AE11D98F5F000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak wrote on 2/26/05: >Unquestionably correct. Do not even consider a music-centric program. >You'll end up jamming pencils in your ears within a week. Hey John- I'm reminded of J. C.'s comment about pulling the pencils from your own eyes before you get started on the pencils of others... laissez faire, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 28 15:16:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34592-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81662 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:16:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 81651 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:16:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:17:04 -0600 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NEW: Micah Silver / ARCHIVE: Carol Genetti X-Originating-IP: 165.124.163.140 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002003be48e630d90c@[209.86.96.128]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd48d830b1be1c4fc40fb12b0145165c4f9627b02ac19e33883a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----------------------------------------------- Stasisfield continues the 2005 release season with another new recording and another old favorite. ----------------------------------------------- + NEW RELEASE ----------------------------------------------- SF-4002:Utopian Artifacts : Micah Silver ----------------------------------------------- New York - based composer, visual artist and curator Micah Silver presents a pair of pieces derived from works for other media. Scale is a plaintive work for synthesizer and short wave radio that debuted as a sound installation. Houston/Touch ("for mark rothkowitz"), a piece for tone generators, noise and guitar, accompanies a video that evokes the gritty, intense spirituality of the abstract expressionist's late-period works, specifically the fourteen black paintings in Houston's Rothko Chapel. Although both pieces were originally composed seperately, together they create a balanced whole, fifty minutes of sonic stasis that are truly in motion while remaining still. Available for download and streaming at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/year04/sf-4002.html ] ----------------------------------------------- ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ----------------------------------------------- + ARCHIVE RELEASE ----------------------------------------------- [The second installment of a new feature at Stasisfield: every month we will present a release from a previous year that has been taken offline and archived onto our series of MP3 archive CDRs, making it available for one month only. Our first back-online archive release comes from the Stasisfield : Year 01 Archive CDR. ] ----------------------------------------------- SF-1008 : Grain : Carol Genetti ----------------------------------------------- Originally commissioned for con|text, the inaugural exhibition of Stasifield.com's digital art gallery Stasis_Space, renowned Chicago experimental vocalist Carol Genetti created this haunting track of half-words and vocal mis-steps to express the difficulties of post-modern communication. Originally released 10.06.2002 Available for download at: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/archive/ ] ----------------------------------------------- ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ----------------------------------------------- + CALL FOR ENTRIES - STASIS_SPACE GALLERY ----------------------------------------------- Stage 01 of a new online exhibition, The resonant Image, is currently accepting submissions. Details: [ http://www.stasisfield.com/space/future ] ----------------------------------------------- As always, thanks for listening. ----------------------------------------------- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.johnkannenberg.com ] [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 28 14:32:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34591-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66147 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:32:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 66137 invoked from network); Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:32:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:28:45 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ignore]test To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001d01c51da1$d0195b30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RTTKyINcFmoR7QvjkTiBVg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <003401c51cf2$478c0830$xxxxxxxx@xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_RTTKyINcFmoR7QvjkTiBVg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit test... sorry, one of those ezmml warnings and no messages since yestrday... ignore if it gets through at all.. thostler °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: Noisejihad To: List Microsound Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 18:32 Subject: [microsound] Noisejihad Live! net label yet another netlabel has come to life. 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The Noisejihad Live! netlabel provides you with exclusive live recordings of artists engaged by Noisejihad. A service from us to those of you who are prevented from showing up at the shows. All releases are free and covers are ready-to-print .pdf files. For starters we offer: NJL001: Mag Necro (J) + Ultimate Combat Noise (DK) NJL002: Ryfylke (N) + Danny Kreutzfeldt (DK) blasting noises and calm ambient, so there really isn't any reason why you shouldn't surf by www.noisejihad.dk and spend some of your broadband connection downloading these truly great recordings. thank you for your time! 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Sun Feb 27 16:56:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34589-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62765 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:56:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 62755 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:56:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:56:44 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 27, 2005, at 12:54 AM, Cory wrote: >> http://dt.parsons.edu > Can anyone recommend something like this in the Baltimore/D.C. area? 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Thanks, Cory ----------------------------- audio @ myspace.com/myo On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:02:15 -0500, John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > http://dt.parsons.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Sat Feb 26 08:48:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34581-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61120 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:48:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 61107 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:48:54 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:48:46 -0800 From: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Fw: ZERYNTHIA SOUND ART MUSEUM: Rome, February 26th 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Message-id: <001e01c51c33$cddf7210$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> Organization: gintas k MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7HhOwko9qCefCDIJ+laQPQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2005 08:48:46.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBAF16E0:01C51BDF] --Boundary_(ID_7HhOwko9qCefCDIJ+laQPQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit e-flux 02/25/05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ZERYNTHIA SOUND ART MUSEUM an exhibition space dedicated to sound and vision a collection of sound-projects by artists a mobile archive Rome, February 26th 2005 http://www.radioartemobile.it -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The sound invades the scene of art and the artists' practice, triggering original, fascinating and, sometimes unforeseen, combinations. A new collective and international sensitiveness is seeking to gather and convey the reasons of these harmonies and these dissonances. 18:30 - 19:30 http://www.radioartemobile.it (Boston and N. Y. 12:30 p.m.; Bogota 1.30 p.m.; London 5.30 p.m.) live broadcasting in connection with 18:30 Larissa Harris at MIT Center for advanced visual studies Boston François Bucher Bogota Artists participating inthe show Inaudita Roma Ron Kuivila for Art in General New York 19:00 Daniel Soutif at Centro per l'Arte Contemporanea Luigi Pecci Prato Claire Staebler at Radio Day De Appel Amsterdam Ian Aman, Joachim Granit e Carsten Holler at Fargfabriken Stockholm Richard Crow e Lucia Farinati at IOR London Radio Arte Mobile, located in via Conte Verde 15 in Rome, will open its doors to the public on occasion of the inaugural exhibition INAUDITA of the Sound Art Museum. Installations by Acconci Studio, Markus Huemer, Donatella Landi, Stephen Vitiello and Achim Wollscheid, will be presented together with artworks of Mario Airo, Massimo Bartolini, Bruna Esposito, Vettor Pisani, Michelangelo Pistoletto, Annie Ratti, Gert Robijns. It will be displayed a selection of sound art from the Archive of the Sound Art Museum, which has already filed more than 350 international and national audio works. In collaboration with Nomads & Residents a series of appointments in istitutional locations all over the world is scheduled, where the archived materials will be available for public use. The curators of the Sound Art Museum are Lorenzo Benedetti free lance curator, Riccardo Giagni composer and musicologist, and Cesare Pietroiusti visual artist. The Sound Art Museum archive is a work in progress, all artists who have worked or are working with sound are always invited to send the an artwork on audio CD DVD or on a vinyl record. Please contact the following address via Conte Verde n.15/ 4a, 00185 Roma, t. +39 06 49382579/ +39 06 4940893 http://www.radioartemobile.it; http://www.soundartmuseum.net; xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------- email to a friend contact subscribe electronic flux corporation / www.e-flux.com 295 greenwich street #532, nyc ny 10007 to unsubscribe click / here --Boundary_(ID_7HhOwko9qCefCDIJ+laQPQ)-- From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 18:45:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34586-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74702 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:45:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 74692 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:45:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:45:37 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 26, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Ben wrote: >> And apologies if I offend anyone here, but I strongly recommend >> against New York University (NYU) for undergraduate studies. > have heard really great things about / from the IT program at NYU ITP is a grad level program. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 18:26:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34585-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70933 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:26:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 70919 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:26:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:34:48 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sILQn/KvAjKaFDXH7fEibA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_sILQn/KvAjKaFDXH7fEibA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit have heard really great things about / from the IT program at NYU actually, there are some list members currently enrolled in this program, so maybe they will contact you off-list for more info. a friend Melissa Dubbin is a past IT student : sculpture, installation, and audio interfaces. http://www.dubbin-davidson.com/ best, On Feb 26, 2005, at 1:02 PM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Filipe Galante wrote: > >> I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and I´d like to know if >> any of you know any good university (preference for NY) that relates >> to this emerging currentes of digital art and sound, I´m very >> interested in music but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m >> more into the relationship between the new digital media and >> specially sound. > > You sound like a perfect candidate for the design & technology program > at Parsons School of Design in New York City. It's the best of its > kind as far as I can tell (and perhaps the only one of its kind in > NY). > > http://dt.parsons.edu > > And apologies if I offend anyone here, but I strongly recommend > against New York University (NYU) for undergraduate studies. > > - John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --Boundary_(ID_sILQn/KvAjKaFDXH7fEibA)-- From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 18:04:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34584-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65573 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:03:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 65562 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:03:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:03:52 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 25, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Jason Thomas wrote: > For your intersts I would avoid music departments in > general. Try either arts departments or sound within > an arts school. Unquestionably correct. Do not even consider a music-centric program. You'll end up jamming pencils in your ears within a week. Again: http://dt.parsons.edu - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 18:02:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34583-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63906 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:02:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 63896 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:02:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:02:15 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 24, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Filipe Galante wrote: > I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and I´d like to know if > any of you know any good university (preference for NY) that relates > to this emerging currentes of digital art and sound, I´m very > interested in music but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m > more into the relationship between the new digital media and specially > sound. You sound like a perfect candidate for the design & technology program at Parsons School of Design in New York City. It's the best of its kind as far as I can tell (and perhaps the only one of its kind in NY). http://dt.parsons.edu And apologies if I offend anyone here, but I strongly recommend against New York University (NYU) for undergraduate studies. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 11:30:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34582-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 06:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88870 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:30:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 88860 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:30:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:29:56 +0100 From: triPhaze <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] :: privatelektro news :: 02 ::05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c51bf6$83225fe0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_b2/lZKy2IzjxM8EXFfgQqw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_b2/lZKy2IzjxM8EXFfgQqw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi friends, time travellers, intellectual b-boyz and girrlz:: some winter - news from us.. but spring will also arrive soon in germany :) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + winter tour 2005 . diary & thx. ++ new cd release privatelektro 07 soon +++ new privatelektro - artist: rob curgenven ++++ dates dates dates - concerts + live action +++++ playlist: igor hax +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * winter tour 2005 . diary & thx. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ back from the successful mini-winter tour 2005. - to speak in the names of jen / [sic] and minimatika. xenia.. + marek /triPhaze.. we would like to thank all the people who supported us: the netmage 05 crew in italy:: big up!all the people we ve meet there in italy too - incl. the nosignal people.. - carlotta, for the house.. andrea for leading us the way back from TPO.. - leafcutter john & phil niblock for the talkings & sounds.. neuchatel. electripocnic crew - for housing and good parties!! - the pastor leumund (DADA) & jeroen in zürich, julia & all from fri_son. fribourg.. (great place!), the placard people at transmediale in berlin (to solve 70% of the techn. difficulties) the other 30% we didnt solve. sorry .. thats life :( leipzig:: homoelectric for the pa (last minute) xabier &dimitri for their great patience.. and all we forgot to mention here .. tour diary: http://www.privatelektro-news.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=308 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** new release privatelektro 07 cd: soon +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ we are happy to announce the next "physical" privatelekto release will be rev.benn schipper: dancemusic for shitheads with the yyx cromosome 76 minutes / 9 titels / 16 page colour booklet finally out soon!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ **** new privatelektro artist: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ we welcome a new family member: australian sound artist rob curgenven. is working in the context of quiet music, fieldrecordings, minimal soundsynthesis and as well sound-installations you can get some more background information and pics find here: http://www.privatelektro.de/rob_curgenven.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ **** dates +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 24 / February / 2005 DIMENSION (Drum N Bass) + Igor Hax (privatelektro) / Apprentice / Oracle hosted by jackpot / visuals by vj buddha at the caledonia / catherine street / Liverpool / UK / 8:30pm to close / free entry +++ 26 / February / 2005 :: kick off 8 pm PRIVATELEKTRO & ALULA TON SERIEN . # 03 superkronik . 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Sat Feb 26 07:27:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34580-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44655 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:27:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 44644 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:27:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:27:04 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Soundproofing In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.15.165 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=KXpE0dR/t+C84+an0hgigS0YxzoVXRITmvu/MYAkKdM8psmedkji7VzKDYQPxDrv; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c260980c0dc4e2be1aa3771286c14560a7a81667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well , if you'll excuse me for being so bold; that you need an anechoic structure in between. Now, I know alot about anechoic structures , even to the point of designing an anechoic jetplane once (or twice) , and an anechoic opera. Yet anyway I digress . The point is one doesn't need to be building an anechoic chamber n order to employ and enjoy anechoic structures. So, if you're too lazy to build the wedges yourself try the foamy stuff with the spikes . I'm sure it will work out ok. the simplified rain? On Feb 25, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Ben Swire wrote: > I recently moved into an apartment in which my bedroom > is separated from my roommate's room by a large > sliding door, measuring 6'x7.5'. I am trying to > figure out an easy affordable solution to help block > sound between the rooms. The door will remain > permanently closed. I would rather not have to deal > with the procedure of constructing a wall using > sheetrock, and I need something that I can remove upon > moving out of the apartment. I was thinking that > perhaps I would build a frame in the doorway in front > of the door on both sides using 2"x2" sheets of wood, > and then put up sheets of "Soundstop" insulation from > Home Depot behind plywood . Does anyone have > experience creating sound barriers. I am not > expecting the room to be dead quiet, I just want to > help cut down the sound in an efficient manner. Any > advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > Ben > www.foundrysite.com/benswire > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Sat Feb 26 04:42:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34579-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13119 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:42:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 13106 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:42:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:42:03 -0500 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Soundproofing In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE45684B.4A16%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 2/25/05 10:12 PM, Ben Swire at xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx wrote: > I recently moved into an apartment in which my bedroom > is separated from my roommate's room by a large > sliding door, measuring 6'x7.5'. ?I am trying to > figure out an easy affordable solution to help block > sound between the rooms. ?The door will remain > permanently closed. ?I would rather not have to deal > with the procedure of constructing a wall using > sheetrock, and I need something that I can remove upon > moving out of the apartment. ?I was thinking that > perhaps I would build a frame in the doorway in front > of the door on both sides using 2"x2" sheets of wood, > and then put up sheets of "Soundstop" insulation from > Home Depot behind plywood . ?Does anyone have > experience creating sound barriers. I am not > expecting the room to be dead quiet, I just want to > help cut down the sound in an efficient manner. ?Any > advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > Ben > www.foundrysite.com/benswire http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 03:12:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34578-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91866 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:12:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 91855 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:12:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:12:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Swire <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] (OT) Soundproofing To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=XcQ7urdAcEvWKEdRr9zVunjvYrHLK6b6nim3HJ5Hd9jcLsGoibZHQ5x+lEnBsVwtzNdm4DCFN5yXuoqC6wCVWy829OO0/a4zACtxpluq7H8ghKRNkPTnX0+wMNJ82c65oz6Qt7SirHqBVU22LH0W5lY2HbGPaAIhCB5Azx3REP4= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I recently moved into an apartment in which my bedroom is separated from my roommate's room by a large sliding door, measuring 6'x7.5'. I am trying to figure out an easy affordable solution to help block sound between the rooms. The door will remain permanently closed. I would rather not have to deal with the procedure of constructing a wall using sheetrock, and I need something that I can remove upon moving out of the apartment. I was thinking that perhaps I would build a frame in the doorway in front of the door on both sides using 2"x2" sheets of wood, and then put up sheets of "Soundstop" insulation from Home Depot behind plywood . Does anyone have experience creating sound barriers. I am not expecting the room to be dead quiet, I just want to help cut down the sound in an efficient manner. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ben www.foundrysite.com/benswire __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 02:44:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34577-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83823 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:44:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 83813 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:44:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:44:30 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yeah, they've got a MAX patch for it. kp On Feb 25, 2005, at 3:10 PM, nathan dickerson wrote: > have you seen this little device? > > brain/computer interface -- they have support for brainwave -> midi i > believe. > > http://www.ibva.com/ > > odd yet interesting > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:54:15 +0000, Richard John Brill > <x.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> I'm writing a thesis on biofeedback sound installation and the >> science and technology behind it. What are your views on the subject, >> i.e., do you think that installations based on biofeedback technology >> can be called artistic if they rely too much on the technology?, such >> as Electroencephalograms, galvanic skin respone, and other general >> biofeedback technology. >> Thanks, >> >> Rbrill >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > -- > http://patternmedia.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 26 01:15:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34576-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62108 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:15:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 62097 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:15:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:15:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Thomas <xxxx@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you want to be specifically in NY, your options have for the most part been stated. Within reasonable commuting distance, however, is Wesleyan in Middletown CT, which has an M.A. in "experimental music." Not so sure about visual arts opps there. I've heard very high quality work from them. (Although low quantity due to small size of department...) I can personally recommend calarts and mills if the west coast isn't a dealbreaker, the former of which I know from experience would be a good environment for multidisciplinary work including image. Not so sure about mills but certainly worth looking into otherwise. For your intersts I would avoid music departments in general. Try either arts departments or sound within an arts school. Later, Jason --- Doran Massey <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I'm not sure what school level you're at so its hard > to say specifically > what programs might work for you. I'm almost > through with an MFA in Studio > Art at NYU. I chose it because it's a very free, > self-directed program and > I could draw on the classes, professors, & visiting > artists of NYU as well > as Columbia U., Princeton U, Yale, CUNY Brooklyn & > Rutgers U. Though I > haven't used the other schools much. > > Some centers you might find interesting: > > NY area: > NYU: http://education.nyu.edu/depts/art/pages/7 > http://itp.tisch.nyu.edu/page/home > http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/art/frames/academic.html > http://www.nydigitalsalon.org/ > > Close to NYC: > Brown - RISD > http://www.arts.rpi.edu/index02.php > > West Coast > http://www.calarts.edu/schools/music/programs/composition-newmedia.html > http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/ > http://www.mills.edu/LIFE/CCM/CCM.homepage.html > http://www.washington.edu/dxarts/ > http://www.mat.ucsb.edu/matWeb/findex.html > > Other: > http://www.artic.edu/saic/programs/depts/graduate/sound.html > > Do you know Jose Carlos Teixeira from Porto? He > didn't like NYU & is at > UCLA now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Filipe Galante" <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:08 PM > Subject: [microsound] New York university??? > > > > Hey microsounders!!!! > > I´m a portuguese musician/student and I´m very > interested in keep on > > studying this area. > > I´ve been studying sound and image in Porto, > Portugal, and now I´m in > > London doing Sonic Culture, but my need for > knowdlege does not stop so Im > > thinking of moving next year to New york and keep > on studying. > > I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and > I´d like to know if any of > > you know any good university (preference for NY) > that relates to this > > emerging currentes of digital art and sound, I´m > very interested in music > > but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m > more into the relationship > > between the new digital media and specially sound. > > So if any of you knows anything about this please > reply - I´ve been > > searching on the web but still havent found > anything suitable, sometimes a > > good tip is the best way to go, specially when u > trust the source. > > > > Thanks you > > Keep on rocking this incredible forum > > Filipe Galante A.K.A PIXEL82 > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ===== Jason Thomas 346 N. 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Fri Feb 25 23:10:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34575-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27612 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:10:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 27602 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:10:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:10:45 -0800 From: nathan dickerson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, x.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: nathan dickerson <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=k7YbeXRPfjyG81pIf2twaF1YEPqRT+1fD6KMYxwkM/drSQcLMSF0hcSMCC3lFv9bjWwYpoqqtVVXc+8sEwu6qNiX+NZZi0qOl3GiOCbR/c/4rHrpQHNIX3ghX/H2SuJ/1TK2bXLsJ0xM63qDxwmm9ITQl16lsaO1lVS5USx1bvA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx have you seen this little device? brain/computer interface -- they have support for brainwave -> midi i believe. http://www.ibva.com/ odd yet interesting On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:54:15 +0000, Richard John Brill <x.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm writing a thesis on biofeedback sound installation and the science and technology behind it. What are your views on the subject, i.e., do you think that installations based on biofeedback technology can be called artistic if they rely too much on the technology?, such as Electroencephalograms, galvanic skin respone, and other general biofeedback technology. > Thanks, > > Rbrill > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://patternmedia.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 22:32:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34574-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13988 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:32:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 13977 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:32:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 23:32:01 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be455748d865@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >You might want to refer to the large body of artworks which are sensor >driven (or based on 'machine listening') for some context. You might >also want to do some readings in chance and indeterminacy in arts >practice and controller mapping in electronic music (Trends in the >Gestural Control of Music', an IRCAM publication, would be good for the >latter). -The following links should help: http://recherche.ircam.fr/equipes/analyse-synthese/wanderle/Gestes/Externe/index ..html http://www.notam02.no/icma/interactivesystems/wg.html AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 22:19:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34573-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8817 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:19:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 8807 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:19:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 09:19:25 +1100 From: Julian Knowles <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by OZtell Antivirus Daemon v1.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Richard, Let's do some interpreting... when you say 'rely too much on the technology' you've made an assessment and we are not party to your criteria for that assessment. If you want to develop a thesis argument then you will need to carefully consider your criteria for these kind of assessments within the broader context of artistic practice Now, if I were to guess as to what you are referring to when you say 'too much technology', I would take a stab and say that you are referring to a situation where the work is driven entirely by the readings from the sensors with little or no conscious input from the subject. Is that right? You might want to refer to the large body of artworks which are sensor driven (or based on 'machine listening') for some context. You might also want to do some readings in chance and indeterminacy in arts practice and controller mapping in electronic music (Trends in the Gestural Control of Music', an IRCAM publication, would be good for the latter). From such a contextual you might encounter a range of work which has the full range of human agency, from works which behave like conventional musical instruments to entirely automated works with little or no conscious human agency on the part of the participant. The greater the array of work you encounter, the more you come to realise that art is defined more by contextual factors than by some quality innate to the work itself. For this reason, trying to run an argument on what constitutes so-called 'artistic' practice is fraught with difficulties and you may be getting yourself in way over your head if you take this on. It may be better to try and gain insights into the artworks you are studying with a view to understanding how the technology is integrated into the overall artistic concepts that underpin the work. That is not to say that you cannot be critical of the use of the technology in the works you study, more that you will need to contain that argument to a scope which is defensible and not widen it to the point that you will be shot to pieces as soon as you write the second sentence!!! Sorry for the thesis coaching, but it is difficult to respond to your question without first clarifying the context. Cheers Julian On Friday, February 25, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Richard John Brill wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm writing a thesis on biofeedback sound installation and the science > and technology behind it. What are your views on the subject, i.e., do > you think that installations based on biofeedback technology can be > called artistic if they rely too much on the technology?, such as > Electroencephalograms, galvanic skin respone, and other general > biofeedback technology. > Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 21:42:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34572-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93205 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:42:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 93195 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:42:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:42:13 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] futurists and fascists (was us citizens... (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx, xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE4505E5.1BB77%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I would probably hazard a >> guess that the larger lesson to be drawn might lie in considering >> if (and how) their [Futurist] work *was* co-opted, and how such might also >> be *our* lot. Marinetti was not co-opted; like Ezra Pound he support Mussolini. Russolo, however, and by all accounts, fled the scene. Futurism overall mind you supported War and various strategies of destruction. I've been writing and talking on these issues recently -- http://www.cut-up.com/news/detail.php?sid=330 Check the .microsound archives -- http://www.skylined.org/microsound -- as there's been some good debate and knowledge sharing on these topics in the past.. particularly back in the Fall of 2004. But moving on -- .microsound and other tech-arts are often forgetting the middle period, circa '50s-'70s, before video-art became the rage: Kinetic Art, Experiments in Art and Technology (EAT), and the Los Angeles County Museum's Art + Technology program, all with their corporate-cybernetic ties. Check out : Lee, Pamela. _Chronophobia: On Time in the Art of the 1960_. http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/eventseducation/talksdiscussions/pamlee1406.ht m http://mdcn.ca/tiki-print_article.php?articleId=11 best, tV tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 11:38:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34563-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44348 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:38:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 44310 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:38:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:38:49 -0800 From: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Depo club, Riga, To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Message-id: <006d01c51b82$6487d890$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> Organization: gintas k MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-4 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <20050222042144.1397121721.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 11:38:49.0201 (UTC) FILETIME=[929B1610:01C51B2E] Friday 4th MARCH 2005 21.00 - 04.00, Depo club, Riga, Latvia microStraava [acoustic space beyond melody and rhythm] mini-festival of contemporary music and media arts http://www.microstraava.tk/ red room : scaepers [.lv - .by] gonzo & macrome [martinez gonzalez.com] invector [.lv] kriipis tulo [.lv] [tulo.org] gintas k [.lt] [cronicaelectronica.org ] ingarin's [.lv] rkha [.lv] blue room: kriipis tulo (dj set) [tulo.org] lost volume [.lv] sound meccano (dj set) [.lv] pooka [podavaax.tk] brannslokker [podavaax.tk] invector (dj set) [.lv] video: asnate ribena [.lv], marijus sagulinas [.lt], i_bo johansson [kooperativs shmerli.lv], mutal [.lv], gonzo & macrome [.lv], spiderman [.nz], wickiss [liquids.lv], closer view [.lv] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Plagasul" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [microsound] Petition Hello. I am planning a trip for the weekend of the 4th, March, and i would like to know if there is anything interesting going on around Europe involving arts or sound, or both. After frustrating googleing i found that emailing the list members could be a fast an effective way of getting such an information. Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 19:59:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34571-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38531 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 38520 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:59:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] SAN FRANCISCO In-reply-to: <BE44BD37.44E1%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? 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"wife, life, tripe, damnit and THAT" a performance of electro-acoustic sounding of the unsound body by Djalma Primordial Science dedicated to the spirit of Antonin Artaud February 25, 26, 2005 at 8pm, Jon Sims Center for the Arts, 1519 Mission Street, SF, $12, tel: 415-554-0402, www.jonsimsctr.org www.djalma.com "Then you will teach him to dance inside out/ as in the delirium of our accordion dances/and that inside out will be his true side out" Based in part on the banned 1948 radio-broadcast of French surrealist poet Antonin Artaud’s "To Have Done With The Judgement Of God", this work by Djalma Primordial Science cleaves to the roots of Artaud’s hallucinatory prophecies. The famous French poet was submitted to brutal electro-shock therapy during WWII and yet emerged to write and perform his greatest works which are drawn from in this presentation by Djalma Primordial Science. "wife, life tripe, damnit and THAT" is a work with teeth and current political relevance as Artaud’s monologue concerns the imagined practice of the American public schools usurping the seminal fluid of male students for the artificial cloning of armies to spread the superiority of American products throughout the world. Performed first by Artaud in 1948 on the eve of the Cold War, this work today sounds fresh, almost written into the present climate of war-mongering and consumerism, as if no time had elapsed at all. The original radio broadcast has been digitally stretched, spliced and manipulated by by Jeff Gburek and this new treatment of the text is supplemented by improvised textures on prepared guitars and live signal processing. Although the text presents Artaud’s vision, the work of movement theater artist Ephia explores the feminine elements of Artaud’s personality which emanated into his writings during his electro-shock therapy and came to be called "the unborn daughters of my heart". These semi-fictional daughter/lover/warrior/liberator--s, these innocent and filthy girls endure great hardships in their attempt to liberate their lover/father. Neneka is the youngest daughter, hence simultaneously the oldest, as this was also the name of Artaud's Turkish grandmother. Neneka is a fetal kitten slipped from the womb too soon, a spill on the floor, a formless body and dripping caul, a smudge. She is discovered in "the puddle state of electro-shock," a terrifying place of trembling void. "And my whole inward electric body, the whole lie of this inward electric body which for a certain number of centuries has been the burden of every human being, turned inside out, became like an immense turning outward in flames, monads of nothingness bristling to the limits of an existence held prisoner in my lead body, which could neither get out of its lead coating nor stand up like a lead soldier." The extensive research for "wife, life, tripe, damnit and THAT" took Djalma Primordial Science to Mexico’s Sierra Tarahumara in October 2003. Artaud visited the Tarahumara Indians in the 1930’s seeking to learn about the visionary experiences of those who "eat right out of the earth the delirium that gave birth to them" and whose vigorously physical spirituality Artaud thought offered a remedy to Western technological decadence. "wife, life tripe, damnit and THAT" a site-specific performance dedicated to the spirit of Artaud premiered April 25, 2004 in Austin, TX at a welder's studio: large machines looming, metal pipes bursting with flames. The next incarnations of this project appeared September 23, 2004 in Birmingham, AL at Omni Studios the site of an old slaughter house, October 21, 2004 in New Orleans, LA at The Jewel Gallery the site of an old brothel, and October 29, 2004 in Phoenix, AZ in Teatro Caliente Festival. Further incarnations will appear in 2005: January 31, February 1, 2005 The LIDA Project Theatre, 2180 Stout St., Denver, CO February 25, 26, 2005, Jon Sims Center for the Arts, 1519 Mission Street, San Fransisco, CA. March 8, 2005 at NISUS/Galeria Galou, 237 Kent Ave. Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY March 13, 2005 at Meet Da Lama Festival, Copenhagen, Denmark DJALMA PRIMORDIAL SCIENCE: DJALMA PRIMORDIAL SCIENCE is the seven year collaboration of dancer Ephia and experimental musician Jeff Gburek. Intensely committed to improvisation (as a way of life) their unpredictable approach to performance constantly seeks to deepen and defy itself. "Our unsound bodies can be found within the low rumbling of the wind, within the shuddering and irregularly-shaped space of the heart’s murmur." Djalma’s process begins with elemental transformation of the body: the dancer’s bones reluctantly wring themselves out leaving a trail of moisture on the brow, her limbs become delicate tissue paper catching fire, her form evaporates and condenses again. Like the origin of sound in movement: the dance is not only seen but felt, transmitted directly from the body of the mover into the body of the viewer. Jeff Gburek correlates his work with reconfigured guitars, field recordings and altered electronic sources to the physical search of the unsound body as Ephia practices it. Body (extended) becomes ear entering an (in)animate realm of subtly shifting textures, iso-events and disruptions that impel the clattering machinery of dream, a terrain of chaotically ordered microcosms, cuts concealing grain. Accent is placed on receiving from the environment rather than producing. The works of Djalma Primordial Science---appearing throughout the United States and Europe in theaters, galleries, music venues, derelict buildings, gaping holes in the earth-- draw on the particulars of landscape and architecture in order to dismantle and reconfigure the illusory SPACE of "theater" into a real situation of intensely felt experience. For more information please visit: www.djalma.com PRESS: "Djalma Primordial Science is making real art. They have been using a hammer for a flute now for years, and are very skillful at making use of the new language the tools suggested to them. It may take an audience member a while to get used to this new language, but drinking in the syntax fundamentally alters the way you breathe, the way you are… This work doesn’t try to make friends; it is exactly what it is, just as a hurricane or an oil spill is what it is. Ephia takes her body apart and puts it back together wrong, so that her hand receives the messages the spleen was supposed to get, so that the eyes are in the soles of the feet, leaving her blind and trembling. We go with her on the journey of this new body across the room, and back again, and across the room, and back again, because the journey is not through space but through states of being. In a way this is journalism, a clear communication of the news from a foreign country."---Alexander Fearnside, Albuquerque Magazine "Fascinating sense of instrumentation and undissectable movement: hypnotic and dreamlike until a pitch of physical and sonic intensity forces you to look around the audience to see who is going to crack...a captivating work which really challenges the boundaries of the observer’s consciousness." Professor Eugene Douglas, Department of Theater and Dance, University of New Mexico. ARTIST BIOS: Ephia studied dance with Min Tanaka , Kazuo and Yoshito Ohno, Anzu Furukawa, and Akira Kasai. Following her interest in ritual dance, she traveled to study under reknown teachers in Ghana, Java and Bali. She holds a BFA in dance from Columbia University (NYC). She danced in the company of the late Anzu Furukawa in Berlin, appearing in Furukawa’s final production, Goya: La Quinta del Sordo. In 1998, she began her collaboration with musician Jeff Gburek. In the seven years of consistent performance and teaching with Djalma Primordial Science, Ephia’ s deeply physical practice has gradually been recast as the UNSOUND BODY, characterizing her concentrations on instability, frailty and magma as movement imperatives and her strong desire to scratch away the veil of illusion from theater, leaving a spare and potent bodily encounter within the shifting landscapes of sound, time, and place. Her production Null Achtzehn, a requiem for the nameless victims of the WWII Holocaust, has appeared in the theaters of Germany, Italy, and Poland. Djalma Primordial Science was a company in residence at the Tricklock Company's Revolutions International Theater Festival 2002. They performed the 12-hour-long Naufragio Ballante at The Land/ an art-site. After an extensive tour of the U.S. in 2004, their production MYOPIA the secret boxcars of pubescence was presented in Amsterdam in conjunction with an Excavations within the Unsound Body workshop sponsored by PIA. Current undertakings include the transmedia project ASYLUM: a study of place/ghost and Wife, Life, Tripe, Damnit & THAT, an homage to Antonin Artaud featured in Teatro Caliente Festival 2004 in Phoenix. In addition to their annual seven day workshop in the desert of New Mexico, INTEGRATING WITH/DISINTEGRATING INTO THE LAND, they regularly lead workshops for actors, dancers, therapists, and all those interested in unleashing a deep internal expression. Jeff Gburek has been playing guitars for 29 years and has been performing widely throughout Western Europe and the USA. During the 80’s he developed a personalized steel-string acoustic style influenced by Indian raga and Arabic maqamat, providing the technical backdrop for his more challenging table-top guitar & electro-acoustic treatments. He employs traditional & prepared guitar techniques, along with signal processing and field recordings, to create a blend of improvisational-compositional music drawing on the processes of musique concrete and the philosophy of the unsound body, crossing and re-crossing imaginary boundaries in sound. He studied Javanese gamelan with Pak Suhardi in Yogyakarta and has performed with gamelan ensembles in Cirebon, Jogja & NYC. Other projects include the Berlin-based electro-acoustic trio ZYGOMA with percussionist Michael Vorfeld and sampling by Michael Walz. Additional appearances with reknown East German trombonist Konrad Bauer and English guitar pioneer Keith Rowe, confirm a continual interest in European experimental music. In the USA, he has worked with Indian sitarist Neel Murgai, Kyle Bruckmann, Chris Forsyth and Daniel Carter and recorded the Javanese rebab for Indian dj Nitin Sawhney. A CD of guitar solos and electro-acoustic compositions called ENERGARIUMS has just been released by the German label NUR/NICHT/NUR. (visit www.energariums.com for ordering info). His 10 Improvisations for Shortwave Radio was broadcast as part of the Nonsequitur Foundation's AetherFest 2003, an international festival for radio art. O’um Kasr, Mother of All Ports, Track 3 from Energariums, is part of the touring exhibit Del Acuerdo Y Del Conflicto in Spain which is going to Cuba next. new reviews at bagatellen.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 19:53:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34570-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34404 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:53:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 34394 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:53:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:53:13 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Berlin In-reply-to: <BE44BD37.44E1%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Dp6irvtR5dlNYA05/sLRruoICoanG9HnG4AfZZdT1J/tMnfAxrCANZZKYapXY+8ypHfSEt0kNHF3H0+E9mNoRH0Z474DzeLsmjIl8OtTN027r+eqiV6tWhX+i9kDwPjHEsaJZ9kXS5JURvPrhrM023Q2AWLKAEBVyqySXNcyOeY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am playing a concert at a new venue for experimental sound called Zibirische-Zelle on March 25, they have website you can google for. google also for echtzeit.com for many other interesting music events, notably those at ausland, kule, podewil, the staalplaat shop etc.... best, jeff gburek Hello; I'm planning a trip to Berlin from 22.03 to 26.03 and I just wanted to ask if there is any interesting concert or show planned during this days... Also if someone from Berlin can make a brief list of the main music shops there I would greately appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- --- Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > BARRY ANDERSON BURSARY > Grass roots funds for artists working in the UK. > > A small award of £150 is available each month for > Sonic Arts Network members > presenting work in their local regions (Not a > member? Visit > www.sonicartsnetwork.org for details). These funds > are intended to help with > the costs of staging an event. The money can be used > to pay for the hire of > a venue, some equipment, the production of > promotional materials like flyers > or with some advertising, travel expenses, the fees > of a guest artist or > other costs associated with producing a small-scale > event. > > In line with our commitment to offer members the > chance to help shape Sonic > Arts Network, this will be an opportunity for you to > decide who will receive > the bursary. Members will select the monthly project > that will be awarded > funding through a process of online voting. Only one > application will be > successful each month and the event must take place > within 3 months of > submitting your proposal. > > The Bursary is in memory of Barry Anderson, a > founder Chair of EMAS (the > former name of Sonic Arts Network) in 1979. Anderson > was an accomplished > composer and also music director of the West Square > Electronic Music > Ensemble based at the West Square Studios at Morley > College. The open access > evening classes he ran there, which mixed > established professionals with > enthusiastic starters, were glued together with > Barry's infectious > enthusiasm, endless energy and a real commitment to > public performance. > > ³I met Barry after a West Square concert at St. > John's Smith Square, I guess > in about 1976. We shared a passion for live > electronics and performance and > I remember the concert included Barry's own work > 'Mask' which combined > performers, tapes & electronics performed from > behind a huge Maori-inspired > mask from his native New Zealand. We had ten years > of great work ahead as > close friends, as well as colleagues on the EMAS > committee, sharing the > IRCAM composers course in 1981 which led to his > extensive work there in the > early and mid 1980s. His death in 1987 deprived us > of a great musician and > music director. > > His friendship and support for young composers and > performers need not live > on only in dusty programme notes but can continue > through these bursaries in > his name.² > > Simon Emmerson > > visit www.sonicartsnetwork.org for more information > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 18:18:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34569-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87502 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:18:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 87492 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:18:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:17:28 -0800 From: Craque <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 18:22:31.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8610850:01C51B66] I tend to disagree, since context and machinery are largely objective perspectives, alterable and insignificant, especially considering the outlook of the individual (insert here arguments about what is art, etc... I'm sure that's shown up on this list more than once). I personally don't believe art has a need to be present[ed|able]. It's very credible, in my view, that an EKG display on its own can be art. On Feb 25, 2005, at 9:10 AM, Scott Carver wrote: > Art always relies on technology (especially the kind of art we're > inclined to talk about on microsound)... but I'm skeptical of the > extent to which art can be nothing BUT technology. I find it difficult > to imagine eeg's, galvanic skin response graphs, other such bodily > data /by itself/ as being art, no matter how beautifully the data is > rendered, regraphed, played back as sound, projected on the wall, etc. > That's not to say that these kinds of data can /never/ be used for > art, but they seem to need more context, more machinery, than this. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 17:49:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34568-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73353 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:49:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 73324 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:49:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:49:02 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, check out the work of Carl Michael von Hausswolff. He did a exhibition with all the archives and materials from Jürgenson at the Portikus in Frankfurt/Germany. There was a book and CD release in conjunction with the exhibition: VOICE TRANSMISSIONS WITH THE DECEASED, Firework Edition Friedrich Jürgenson - from the Studio for Audioscopic Research http://www.portikus.de/ArchiveA0125.html www.fireworkedition.com/ http://parc.web.fm/catalogue.html all the best Bernhard ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 17:10:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34567-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57504 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:10:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 57494 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:10:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:10:05 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Art always relies on technology (especially the kind of art we're inclined to talk about on microsound)... but I'm skeptical of the extent to which art can be nothing BUT technology. I find it difficult to imagine eeg's, galvanic skin response graphs, other such bodily data /by itself/ as being art, no matter how beautifully the data is rendered, regraphed, played back as sound, projected on the wall, etc. That's not to say that these kinds of data can /never/ be used for art, but they seem to need more context, more machinery, than this. - Scott Carver On Feb 25, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Craque wrote: > Why should the amount of technology involved define the relative > 'artisticness' of a work? Some art is nothing BUT technology - > especially music these days. Plenty of art relies heavy on technology; > of course this also depends on what you define as 'technology.' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 16:55:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34566-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49595 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:55:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 49539 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:55:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:54:57 -0800 From: Craque <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 16:59:35.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[624D3C90:01C51B5B] Why should the amount of technology involved define the relative 'artisticness' of a work? Some art is nothing BUT technology - especially music these days. Plenty of art relies heavy on technology; of course this also depends on what you define as 'technology.' On Feb 25, 2005, at 4:54 AM, Richard John Brill wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm writing a thesis on biofeedback sound installation and the science > and technology behind it. What are your views on the subject, i.e., do > you think that installations based on biofeedback technology can be > called artistic if they rely too much on the technology?, such as > Electroencephalograms, galvanic skin respone, and other general > biofeedback technology. > Thanks, > > Rbrill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(dense.de) staalplaat, Torstr. 72 (staalplaat.com) hardwax, Paul-Lincke-Ufer 44a (hardwax.de) the first two rather on the "experimental" side, with lots of cds and some vinyls, the latter is a mythical techno shop, with mostly vinyls. *for concerts, check these websites, or ask the above shops: ausland-berlin.de (great venue) music-scan.de/nbi echtzeitmusik.de (calendar for improv concert) for clubbing, check de-bug.de/dates, and usual clubs (clubmaria.de, wmfclub.de, berghain.de...) have a nice time in berlin, and don't hesitate to ask for more details! jérémy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 12:54:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34564-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56949 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:54:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 56939 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:54:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:54:15 +0000 From: Richard John Brill <x.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Biofeedback artists? X-Sender: rbrill1 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: x.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello List, I'm writing a thesis on biofeedback sound installation and the science and technology behind it. What are your views on the subject, i.e., do you think that installations based on biofeedback technology can be called artistic if they rely too much on the technology?, such as Electroencephalograms, galvanic skin respone, and other general biofeedback technology. Thanks, Rbrill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 11:32:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34562-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42624 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:32:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 42613 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:32:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:32:07 +0000 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] SAN announces Barry Anderson Bursary To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE44BD37.44E1%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx BARRY ANDERSON BURSARY Grass roots funds for artists working in the UK. A small award of £150 is available each month for Sonic Arts Network members presenting work in their local regions (Not a member? Visit www.sonicartsnetwork.org for details). These funds are intended to help with the costs of staging an event. The money can be used to pay for the hire of a venue, some equipment, the production of promotional materials like flyers or with some advertising, travel expenses, the fees of a guest artist or other costs associated with producing a small-scale event. In line with our commitment to offer members the chance to help shape Sonic Arts Network, this will be an opportunity for you to decide who will receive the bursary. Members will select the monthly project that will be awarded funding through a process of online voting. Only one application will be successful each month and the event must take place within 3 months of submitting your proposal. The Bursary is in memory of Barry Anderson, a founder Chair of EMAS (the former name of Sonic Arts Network) in 1979. Anderson was an accomplished composer and also music director of the West Square Electronic Music Ensemble based at the West Square Studios at Morley College. The open access evening classes he ran there, which mixed established professionals with enthusiastic starters, were glued together with Barry's infectious enthusiasm, endless energy and a real commitment to public performance. ³I met Barry after a West Square concert at St. John's Smith Square, I guess in about 1976. We shared a passion for live electronics and performance and I remember the concert included Barry's own work 'Mask' which combined performers, tapes & electronics performed from behind a huge Maori-inspired mask from his native New Zealand. We had ten years of great work ahead as close friends, as well as colleagues on the EMAS committee, sharing the IRCAM composers course in 1981 which led to his extensive work there in the early and mid 1980s. His death in 1987 deprived us of a great musician and music director. His friendship and support for young composers and performers need not live on only in dusty programme notes but can continue through these bursaries in his name.² Simon Emmerson visit www.sonicartsnetwork.org for more information --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 11:08:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34561-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35205 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:08:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 35195 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:08:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:07:52 -0500 From: Doran Massey <xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? X-Originating-IP: [70.21.191.109] X-Sender: xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 11:08:00.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[44B24F80:01C51B2A] I'm not sure what school level you're at so its hard to say specifically what programs might work for you. I'm almost through with an MFA in Studio Art at NYU. I chose it because it's a very free, self-directed program and I could draw on the classes, professors, & visiting artists of NYU as well as Columbia U., Princeton U, Yale, CUNY Brooklyn & Rutgers U. Though I haven't used the other schools much. Some centers you might find interesting: NY area: NYU: http://education.nyu.edu/depts/art/pages/7 http://itp.tisch.nyu.edu/page/home http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/art/frames/academic.html http://www.nydigitalsalon.org/ Close to NYC: Brown - RISD http://www.arts.rpi.edu/index02.php West Coast http://www.calarts.edu/schools/music/programs/composition-newmedia.html http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/ http://www.mills.edu/LIFE/CCM/CCM.homepage.html http://www.washington.edu/dxarts/ http://www.mat.ucsb.edu/matWeb/findex.html Other: http://www.artic.edu/saic/programs/depts/graduate/sound.html Do you know Jose Carlos Teixeira from Porto? He didn't like NYU & is at UCLA now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filipe Galante" <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: [microsound] New York university??? > Hey microsounders!!!! > I´m a portuguese musician/student and I´m very interested in keep on > studying this area. > I´ve been studying sound and image in Porto, Portugal, and now I´m in > London doing Sonic Culture, but my need for knowdlege does not stop so Im > thinking of moving next year to New york and keep on studying. > I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and I´d like to know if any of > you know any good university (preference for NY) that relates to this > emerging currentes of digital art and sound, I´m very interested in music > but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m more into the relationship > between the new digital media and specially sound. > So if any of you knows anything about this please reply - I´ve been > searching on the web but still havent found anything suitable, sometimes a > good tip is the best way to go, specially when u trust the source. > > Thanks you > Keep on rocking this incredible forum > Filipe Galante A.K.A PIXEL82 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 10:37:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34560-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28737 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:37:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 28727 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:37:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:37:16 +0100 From: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] futurists and fascists (was us citizens... (OT) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Medianet/v2.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if i remember well, Marinetti (considered as the father of futurism)became from the begining of italian fascism one of its most radical element in the futurist movement. He remained with the Salo republic - which can be considered as a political suicide - he approved the destruction of some really ancient borroughs in italian cities, and also depicted idyllic visions of the war trough paintings representating planes, bombs, etc... But surely they weren't all fascists : Luigi Russolo ("the art of noise") didn't join at all fascism... ----Message d'origine---- >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:29:16 -0600 >De: Gregory Taylor <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> >A: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Sujet: [microsound] futurists and fascists (was us citizens... (OT) > >It could be and has been argued that the futurists were willingly >co-opted by the Fascists (I believe that a lot of this concerns >their participation in... um... I think it's the Quattrocentro exhibition >in um... 1933 or so? (Sorry. I'm in Miami a great ways away from >my library.), and the extent to which one could read the earlier >work and see or not see this co-optation as something inevitable >is, similarly, posited and debated by historians and scholars. > >Such work is, apparently, complicated by the fact that the view of >some futurists as collaborators was sufficiently widespread in the >years following the second world war that the participants' work >fell into fairly serious obscurity. I heard an interesting talk by >Richard Kerby (who authored the very interesting and, happily, >back in print book "Futurist Performance," which to my knowledge >featured the first English translations of a number of theoretical >writings of the futurists) about the circumstances under which he >found and gathered the research that informed "Futurist Performance." >While people generally in groups like this bemoan the "loss" of >the intonarumori (and some basic idea of what was actually IN >some of those boxes), much more has been lost to us. > >While I can's say I've really got a dog in this fight at this point >(although I was somewhat more committed to the notion that >the co-optation of futurism was important during the first heady >days of industrial music, when a fair number of persons who >were largely ignorant of the movement's history appeared to >uncritically embrace futurism), I would probably hazard a >guess that the larger lesson to be drawn might lie in considering >if (and how) their work *was* co-opted, and how such might also >be *our* lot. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 08:08:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34559-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98047 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:08:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 98037 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:08:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:07:40 +0100 From: Pol <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Berlin To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at nexica.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello; I'm planning a trip to Berlin from 22.03 to 26.03 and I just wanted to ask if there is any interesting concert or show planned during this days... Also if someone from Berlin can make a brief list of the main music shops there I would greately appreciate it. Thanks in advance. -- ******************************************************************** Pol Santacana Ametller Comunidad de Profesionales Internet, S.A. http://www.ictnet.es -------------------------------------------------------------------- -How important is the concept of light in the making of your music ? -In darkness, it is hard to find the switches Ilpo Vaisanen, Pan Sonic ******************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 25 08:00:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34558-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94775 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:00:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 94765 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:00:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 03:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder - BETA_LAB - Feb 26th 2005 - MTL To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx PHONIQ presents BETA-LAB when: saturday february 26th 2005 where: la salle d'attente (the back room of cafe esperanza) 5490 st-laurent, montreal, canada time: 9pm - 3am how much: FREE BETA-LAB is a monthly night of electronic music collaberation and experimentation featuring phoniq resident artists: naw, cyan, scant intone, various, anton along side a variey of monthly guests. This month's BETA-LAB will feature: Heart & Soul - Live - esoterik NAW V.S. Anton - live - antontrax.com/noisefactoryrecords.com Bopp - laptop DJ - bopp.ca for more info visit: www.phoniq.net ---------------------------------------------------- PRESS RELEASE The PHONIQ collective brings you another twist on another year of electronic music showcases. This time around PHONIQ is happy to present BETA-LAB a monthly showcase of electronic music collaberation and experimentation. BETA-LAB will focus on teaming up resident PHONIQ artists with other members of the canadian electronic music community. BETA-LAB is a space for experimentation to try out new ideas, for artists to try out new ideas, projects, collaberations. a testing ground for laptop artists, hardware musicians, djs and video artists a like. every month a different project or projects will be presented. each of these events are designed to act as an exploration into the different intersections between technology and music/art making. BETA-LAB is not designed to feature one artist in particular but to act more as an equal testing ground for all, for both the performer and the audience member. the BETA-LAB series is about an ever changing creative process, each months event details will be announced at www.phoniq.net BIOS/INFO PHONIQ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic music/art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal and canada. we aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. the concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio, event coordinating and dj talents. since then the collective has grown to include 5 core members responsible for keeping things running. after 6 short months, phoniq has grown from an idea of "how can we create a viable promotional vehicle for canadian electronic artists", into a music series, a net-label, an active community mailing-list and a canadian electronic music resource. HEART & SOUL Humanity receives hundreds of cosmic signals on a daily basis. Of these, certainly the most complex come from a place simply known as Planet Nebula.Chief among the Nebular codebreakers here on Earth is the team of Heart & Soul. Their working methods combine the pioneering inter-planetary research of the eminent Dr. Blowfin, the study of subterranean, or underground, wave-form activity, a careful monitering of circle makers, as well as their previously established Solar Mist Approach. The H&S team are working towards a comprehensive decryption program for the Nebular codes and a better understanding of what they can mean for us. BOPP www.bopp.ca Montreal based Laptop DJ Bopp currently plays the "Deep Fried Daze" netradio show on netmusique.com every friday at 4 pm. NAW www.noisefactoryrecords.com montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clever-music, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. he has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada.to co-enside with his recent releases on these labels and plans to return to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. ANTON www.antontrax.com recently relocated to montreal from the west coast, anton has been refining his sound since 1999. in an era where most are abandoning their hardware to go the software route, anton has taken advantage of cheap pawn-shop synths and samplers, made obsolete by economic cycle, but still rich with potential. his signature sound features emotive melodies, lush minor chords, and distant textures. as somewhat of a reaction to the clean computer-based sound prevalent today, antons music tends to be rough, gritty, and deeply compressed. the influence of the environment of the west coast of canada has certainly left its mark. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Feb 25 01:59:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34556-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 902 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:59:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 892 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:59:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:07:43 -0500 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE43F29F.845B%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 2/24/05 8:08 PM, Filipe Galante at xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > Hey microsounders!!!! > I´m a portuguese musician/student and I´m very interested in keep on > studying this area. > I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and I´d like to know if any of > you know any good university (preference for NY) that relates to this > emerging currentes of digital art and sound, > Filipe Galante A.K.A PIXEL82 Hi Filipe, Not a University per say but a very good place to learn. 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Fri Feb 25 01:10:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34555-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83766 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:10:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 83756 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:10:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:08:05 +0000 From: Filipe Galante <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New York university??? In-reply-to: <001301c512e1$ccd61190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> X-Originating-IP: [81.178.65.224] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2005 01:09:00.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[97124E50:01C51AD6] Hey microsounders!!!! I´m a portuguese musician/student and I´m very interested in keep on studying this area. I´ve been studying sound and image in Porto, Portugal, and now I´m in London doing Sonic Culture, but my need for knowdlege does not stop so Im thinking of moving next year to New york and keep on studying. I´m probably going on the erasmus programme and I´d like to know if any of you know any good university (preference for NY) that relates to this emerging currentes of digital art and sound, I´m very interested in music but I want nothing to do with composition, I´m more into the relationship between the new digital media and specially sound. So if any of you knows anything about this please reply - I´ve been searching on the web but still havent found anything suitable, sometimes a good tip is the best way to go, specially when u trust the source. Thanks you Keep on rocking this incredible forum Filipe Galante A.K.A PIXEL82 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 22:19:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34554-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28015 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:19:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 27988 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:19:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:18:34 +0100 From: fantasmagramma / Phon <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Phon + fantasmagramma @ Raum - Bologna To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005d01c51abe$c9b64040$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_H8NGq9LZ4P+4n6ZdExEUCQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_H8NGq9LZ4P+4n6ZdExEUCQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday, february 25 h 22,00 @ Raum, via Ca' Selvatica 4/d, Bologna (Italy) -free entry- Phonorama, event curated by Nico and Corrado Senscibai, presents: Phon [label launch] | fantasmagramma [performance] Phon is a new music label based in Bologna, Italy, founded by Francesco Leoci and Marco Leoci, focused in releasing electronic sound works developed through radically experimental compositional formulations and a creative use of audio software and new tools. In this event will be presented the first label release, Oblique Ephemeral Topology, a cd-split including three new compositions realized by fantasmagramma (it), schurer (ch), kim cascone (u.s.a.). Immediately following, fantasmagramma will perfom their new set of minimalist computer music. www.phon-label.com www.xing.it/raum.html www.fantasmagramma.com --Boundary_(ID_H8NGq9LZ4P+4n6ZdExEUCQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 20:19:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34553-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82404 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:19:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 82394 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:19:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:19:39 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 23/02/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VsbpNs7IB5GGuVYjdgbE4A)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_VsbpNs7IB5GGuVYjdgbE4A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 23/02/05 01. ALVA NOTO Track: Remodel Album: Transvision (Transall) Label: Raster-Noton Comenzamos el programa de esta semana con el corte que abre "Transvision", uno de los nuevos trabajos de Carsten Nicolai en el sello Raster-Noton, para una serie titulada "Transall" que incluye 3 eps de 21 minutos de duración. Brillantemente diseñados por Nicolai en formato mini cd, pretenden ser un reflejo de las modernas sociedades occidentales, tratando temas como la velocidad ("Transrapid"), la visión utópica del mundo ("Transvision") y la disolución de ideas en fragmentos ("Transspray") We begin our weekly playlist with the track that opens "Transvision", one of Carsten Nicolai's new works in the Raster-Noton imprint, for his "Transall" series, that include 3 eps of 21 minutes long. Brilliantly designed by Nicolai in mini-cd format, they position themselves as a reflection of the modern western societies, abording subjects such as speed ("Transrapid"), the utopian vision of the world ("Transvision") and the breakup of ideas into fragments ("Transspray") 02. ALVA NOTO Track: Funkbugfx Album: Transrapid Label: Raster-Noton Este es precisamente el corte que abría el primero de los eps de la serie de Alva Noto, "Transrapid", en el que se relaciona la velocidad de nuestros días con el contínuo flujo de datos e información que saturan los sistemas This is the track that opens the first of the eps in Noto's Transall series, Transrapid, in which the speed of our days is related to the continiuos flow of data and information saturating the systems 03. BIBIO Track: I'm Rewinding It.... Album: Fi Label: Mush Debut de Stephen Wilkinson con el nombre Bibio, un disco que parte de samples de baja calidad a los que añade instrumentación en directo, grabaciones de campo y muchos efectos y manipulaciones. Este es uno de los 17 cortes compuestos para un álbum titulado "Fi" que edita el sello norteamericano Mush Records, plataforma de operaciones para muchos proyectos paralelos que tienen que ver con Anticon Debut album for Stephen Wilkinson with the nickname Bibio, a record departing from low quality samples with some posterior addings, such as live instrumentation, field recordings and some effects and manipulations. This is one of the 17 tracks composed for an album entitled Fi, released in the North American label Mush Records, operation platform for many parallel projects around Anticon 04. STEPHAN MATHIEU Track: Theme For Oud Amelisweerd Album: The Sad Mac Label: Headz Nuevo trabajo del compositor alemán Stephan Mathieu editado por la compañía japonesa Headz, que viene lanzando ultimamente trabajos de renombrados artistas europeos (Rafael Toral, Fennesz...) y norteamericanos, como David Grubbs, Sam Prekop o Jeff Parker. "The Sad Mac" es el título del nuevo album de Stephan Mathieu, en el que muta su estilo compositivo hacia una combinación de instrumentación real, grabaciones de campo, música barroca y -menos- computadoras New work by the German composer Stephan Mathieu released in the Japanese company Headz, that keeps on publishing renowned European artists (Rafael Toral, Fennesz...) and North American (David Grubbs, Sam Prekop, Jeff Parker). The Sad Mac is the title of Stephan Mathieu's new album, in which somehow changes his compositive style towards to a combination of real instrumentation, field recordings, Baroque music and -less- computers 05. LARSEN Track: 6 Album: Play Label: Important Nos marchamos a Italia con un combo eléctrico llamado Larsen, que presentan un disco de instrumentales hipnóticos y delicados inspirados en Autechre, en quienes basaron la música de un trabajo compuesto a partir de improvisaciones sobre sus cortes favoritos del dúo británico. Play es su cuarto álbum, ha sido recientemente editado por Important Records desde Massachussets We leave to Italy with an electric outfit called Larsen, that present a record of hypnotic and delicate instrumentals inspired by Autechre, who served as musical base to compose this work starting from improvisations on their favorite tracks from the British duet. Play is their fourth album, it has been recently released by Important Records from Massachussets 06. AUTECHRE Track: Lcc Album: Untilted Label: Warp Vamos ahora sí con Autechre. Esto es un adelanto de su nuevo trabajo, Untilted, casi dos años después de que Sean Booth y Rob Brown publicaran su último álbum hasta la fecha, Draft 7.30. Con una extensa discografía desde 1987, el dúo de Sheffield, edita su nuevo trabajo en Warp Records, desde el Reino Unido, aunque el disco estará disponible una semana antes en Japón This are finally Autechre themselves. Advance of their new work, Untilted, almost two years after Sean Booth and Rob Brown published their last album so far, Draft 7.30. With an extensive discography from 1987, the Sheffield duet release their new work in Warp Records, from the United Kingdom, although the disk will be available one week before in Japan 07. KNEAD Track: 2 Album: This Melting Happiness / This melting happiness I want you to realize that it is another trap Label: Fractal Knead, proyecto compuesto por el Keiji Haino, guitarrista de Fushitsusha, junto a Tatsuya Yoshida e Hisashi Sasaki del grupo Ruins, con su segunda grabación, un directo desde Tokyo titulado This Melting Happiness editado desde Francia por Fractal Records Knead, a project compound by Keiji Haino, guitarist of Fushitsusha, together with Tatsuya Yoshida and Hisashi Sasaki of the group Ruins, with their second recording, a live one from Tokyo entitled This Melting Happiness released from France by Fractal Records 08. SMEGMA Track: Electron Album: Rumblings Label: Hanson Banda de free noise formada en los años 70 alrededor de la Sociedad de Música Libre de Los Angeles, que ellos mismos ayudaron a formar. Smegma regresan con su primer disco en casi una década, sin contar su reciente colaboración con Wolf Eyes. Rumblings es un collage sonoro editado por Hanson Records y compuesto por grandes dosis de improvisación, free jazz y rock en un entorno más que ruidoso, con la colaboración del músico y escritor Richard Meltzer Free noise band formed in the seventies around the Los Angeles Free Music Society, that themselves helped to form. Smegma return with their first release in almost a decade, without counting their recent collaboration with Wolf Eyes. Rumblings is a sound collage released by Hanson Records and composed by big improvisation doses, free jazz and rock in more than noisy environment, with the collaboration of writer and musician Richard Meltzer ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado “borrame” y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. 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Thu Feb 24 20:17:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34552-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78843 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:16:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 78832 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:16:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:16:42 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 23/02/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JdKixP1ZSDtAMosopCDegg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_JdKixP1ZSDtAMosopCDegg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 23/02/05 01. ALVA NOTO Track: Remodel Album: Transvision (Transall) Label: Raster-Noton Comenzamos el programa de esta semana con el corte que abre "Transvision", uno de los nuevos trabajos de Carsten Nicolai en el sello Raster-Noton, para una serie titulada "Transall" que incluye 3 eps de 21 minutos de duración. Brillantemente diseñados por Nicolai en formato mini cd, pretenden ser un reflejo de las modernas sociedades occidentales, tratando temas como la velocidad ("Transrapid"), la visión utópica del mundo ("Transvision") y la disolución de ideas en fragmentos ("Transspray") We begin our weekly playlist with the track that opens "Transvision", one of Carsten Nicolai's new works in the Raster-Noton imprint, for his "Transall" series, that include 3 eps of 21 minutes long. Brilliantly designed by Nicolai in mini-cd format, they position themselves as a reflection of the modern western societies, abording subjects such as speed ("Transrapid"), the utopian vision of the world ("Transvision") and the breakup of ideas into fragments ("Transspray") 02. ALVA NOTO Track: Funkbugfx Album: Transrapid Label: Raster-Noton Este es precisamente el corte que abría el primero de los eps de la serie de Alva Noto, "Transrapid", en el que se relaciona la velocidad de nuestros días con el contínuo flujo de datos e información que saturan los sistemas This is the track that opens the first of the eps in Noto's Transall series, Transrapid, in which the speed of our days is related to the continiuos flow of data and information saturating the systems 03. BIBIO Track: I'm Rewinding It.... Album: Fi Label: Mush Debut de Stephen Wilkinson con el nombre Bibio, un disco que parte de samples de baja calidad a los que añade instrumentación en directo, grabaciones de campo y muchos efectos y manipulaciones. Este es uno de los 17 cortes compuestos para un álbum titulado "Fi" que edita el sello norteamericano Mush Records, plataforma de operaciones para muchos proyectos paralelos que tienen que ver con Anticon Debut album for Stephen Wilkinson with the nickname Bibio, a record departing from low quality samples with some posterior addings, such as live instrumentation, field recordings and some effects and manipulations. This is one of the 17 tracks composed for an album entitled Fi, released in the North American label Mush Records, operation platform for many parallel projects around Anticon 04. STEPHAN MATHIEU Track: Theme For Oud Amelisweerd Album: The Sad Mac Label: Headz Nuevo trabajo del compositor alemán Stephan Mathieu editado por la compañía japonesa Headz, que viene lanzando ultimamente trabajos de renombrados artistas europeos (Rafael Toral, Fennesz...) y norteamericanos, como David Grubbs, Sam Prekop o Jeff Parker. "The Sad Mac" es el título del nuevo album de Stephan Mathieu, en el que muta su estilo compositivo hacia una combinación de instrumentación real, grabaciones de campo, música barroca y -menos- computadoras New work by the German composer Stephan Mathieu released in the Japanese company Headz, that keeps on publishing renowned European artists (Rafael Toral, Fennesz...) and North American (David Grubbs, Sam Prekop, Jeff Parker). The Sad Mac is the title of Stephan Mathieu's new album, in which somehow changes his compositive style towards to a combination of real instrumentation, field recordings, Baroque music and -less- computers 05. LARSEN Track: 6 Album: Play Label: Important Nos marchamos a Italia con un combo eléctrico llamado Larsen, que presentan un disco de instrumentales hipnóticos y delicados inspirados en Autechre, en quienes basaron la música de un trabajo compuesto a partir de improvisaciones sobre sus cortes favoritos del dúo británico. Play es su cuarto álbum, ha sido recientemente editado por Important Records desde Massachussets We leave to Italy with an electric outfit called Larsen, that present a record of hypnotic and delicate instrumentals inspired by Autechre, who served as musical base to compose this work starting from improvisations on their favorite tracks from the British duet. Play is their fourth album, it has been recently released by Important Records from Massachussets 06. AUTECHRE Track: Lcc Album: Untilted Label: Warp Vamos ahora sí con Autechre. Esto es un adelanto de su nuevo trabajo, Untilted, casi dos años después de que Sean Booth y Rob Brown publicaran su último álbum hasta la fecha, Draft 7.30. Con una extensa discografía desde 1987, el dúo de Sheffield, edita su nuevo trabajo en Warp Records, desde el Reino Unido, aunque el disco estará disponible una semana antes en Japón This are finally Autechre themselves. Advance of their new work, Untilted, almost two years after Sean Booth and Rob Brown published their last album so far, Draft 7.30. With an extensive discography from 1987, the Sheffield duet release their new work in Warp Records, from the United Kingdom, although the disk will be available one week before in Japan 07. KNEAD Track: 2 Album: This Melting Happiness / This melting happiness I want you to realize that it is another trap Label: Fractal Knead, proyecto compuesto por el Keiji Haino, guitarrista de Fushitsusha, junto a Tatsuya Yoshida e Hisashi Sasaki del grupo Ruins, con su segunda grabación, un directo desde Tokyo titulado This Melting Happiness editado desde Francia por Fractal Records Knead, a project compound by Keiji Haino, guitarist of Fushitsusha, together with Tatsuya Yoshida and Hisashi Sasaki of the group Ruins, with their second recording, a live one from Tokyo entitled This Melting Happiness released from France by Fractal Records 08. SMEGMA Track: Electron Album: Rumblings Label: Hanson Banda de free noise formada en los años 70 alrededor de la Sociedad de Música Libre de Los Angeles, que ellos mismos ayudaron a formar. Smegma regresan con su primer disco en casi una década, sin contar su reciente colaboración con Wolf Eyes. Rumblings es un collage sonoro editado por Hanson Records y compuesto por grandes dosis de improvisación, free jazz y rock en un entorno más que ruidoso, con la colaboración del músico y escritor Richard Meltzer Free noise band formed in the seventies around the Los Angeles Free Music Society, that themselves helped to form. Smegma return with their first release in almost a decade, without counting their recent collaboration with Wolf Eyes. Rumblings is a sound collage released by Hanson Records and composed by big improvisation doses, free jazz and rock in more than noisy environment, with the collaboration of writer and musician Richard Meltzer ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado “borrame” y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. 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Thu Feb 24 16:52:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34551-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88938 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:52:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 88928 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:52:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:52:44 -0800 (PST) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] blatant self publicisation of radio appearance resonance fm tonight 12-2am UK time In-reply-to: <BE42A415.1BA83%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=pfSE6N5J77WZCFC4BsipTuYG4H/HsxmJNsd7heXVVj51mz3ZFsbi4Ai50xTIrp5yIKMfHhvsDG/8V1jeskqptDUcxN07S/hYqczEE7yfikdqH3etQw4FH/FQ8ZMxt1lZ1iZDUPLb6RHER/qUe09dkQzLooOIrLYANxhmY1tkbRQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello all, as a follow on thingy from my art exhibition in kings cross london, i am doing some radio shows on resonance fm (104.4 fm dial, webstreamed also) tonight 12-2am uk time laters on the 'life and living show': watch this/resonance website space http://www.resonancefm.com i'll be playing some older abstract...ahhh its supposed to be a suprise........ if anyone wants jpegs from the exhibition then get in touch. otherwise a simple google search on ben guiver out of my head will suffice. best ben guiver __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Thu Feb 24 15:56:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34550-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64354 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:56:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 64340 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:56:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:55:50 +0100 From: festival garage <xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx> Subject: [microsound] forget it! don't trust your archives - call for entries To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0620070ebe43a696831d@[192.168.100.101]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx German version below. Please forward this to any individuals or mailing lists that you feel it would be of interest to. Call for Entries: --------------------------------------------------------- 9th festival garage in August 2005 in Stralsund / Germany --------------------------------------------------------- forget it! don't trust your archives --------------------------------------------------------- Data, images, sounds, terms, definitions, signs, contacts, biometrical information, stamps ... Our culture is determined by the urge to collect and to archive, to save and to index, to systemise and to codify. Thanks to digitisation we are relieved of the tedious obligation to decide what is worth preserving - we therefore save everything and decide later what we need. The confidence we have in the perfection of recording technologies, database systems, search algorithms and collaborative filter mechanisms change our reception of reality. The awareness of the ability to save and recall everything for later use reduces our willingness to concentrate on the moment. Not the event is important but the condensed information in a practical storage format. Reference is security. To leave the field of what is considered secure is a risk. Imperfection, coincidence, spontaneity - what cannot be saved, recorded and documented? What is the quality of the non-permanent? What sense makes an archive nobody is looking at? How productive is oblivion? Rewriting of rules, breaking off processes, selecting and deleting - garage 05 is searching for artists' approaches and positions that critically discuss the technologies and mechanics of saving, archiving and forgetting. Send us your proposals and concepts for presentations, installations, performances, projects, papers, and workshops. Submission deadline for materials and proposals is 2nd May 2005. application forms and info: http://www.garage-g.de/call05 --------------------------------------------------------- all proposals should be submitted to: Festival garage Kastanienallee 73 10435 Berlin Germany questions? +49 (0) 30 441 20 15 xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx --------------------------------------------------------- Ausschreibung --------------------------------------------------------- 9. Festival garage im August 2005 in Stralsund --------------------------------------------------------- forget it! don't trust your archives --------------------------------------------------------- Daten, Bilder, Toene, Begriffe, Definitionen, Zeichen, Kontakte, biometrische Informationen, Briefmarken ... Unsere Kultur ist gepraegt vom Drang zu sammeln und zu archivieren, zu speichern und zu katalogisieren, zu systematisieren und festzuschreiben. Da wir Dank Digitalisierung von der laestigen Verpflichtung befreit sind, uns entscheiden zu muessen, was sich aufzubewahren lohnt, sichern wir lieber alles und entscheiden spaeter, was wir davon brauchen. Das Vertrauen in die Perfektion von Aufzeichnungstechnologien, Datenbanksystemen, Suchalgorithmen und kollaborativen Filtermechanismen veraendert die Wahrnehmung von Realitaet. Das Wissen um die Moeglichkeit, alles speichern und fuer den spaeteren Gebrauch wieder abrufen zu koennen, verringert unsere Bereitschaft zur Konzentration auf den Moment. Nicht das Ereignis ist wichtig, sondern die kondensierte Information im praktischen Speicherformat. Referenz ist Sicherheit. Das Terrain des als gesichert Geltenden zu verlassen, ist Risiko. Imperfektion, Zufall, Spontanitaet - was laesst sich nicht speichern, aufzeichnen und dokumentieren? Was ist die Qualitaet des Fluechtigen? Wie viel Sinn macht ein Archiv, wenn sich niemand dafuer interessiert? Wie produktiv ist das Vergessen? Umschreiben von Regeln, Abbrechen von Prozessen, Auswaehlen und Loeschen - garage 05 sucht nach kuenstlerischen Ansaetzen und Positionen, die sich kritisch mit Technologien und Mechaniken des Speicherns, Archivierens und Vergessen auseinandersetzen. Eingereicht werden koennen Vorschlaege und Konzepte für Ausstellungen, Installationen, Performances, Projekte, Vortraege und Workshops. Einsendeschluss fuer Material und Vorschlaege ist der 2. Mai 2005. Anmeldeformular und Infos unter: http://www.garage-g.de/call05 --------------------------------------------------------- Ideen, Vorschlaege, Projektbeschreibung, Material bitte an: Festival garage Kastanienallee 73 10435 Berlin Germany Fragen? +49 (0) 30 441 20 15 xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 15:09:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34549-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46984 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:09:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 46974 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:09:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: Eric b <xxxx_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Live @ BPM, Brooklyn 8pm In-reply-to: <1CFAD01.BDA9%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=whH/dWnVzzOQR1aqQzAWFE7vD48Ej1UZ6ptta1oDU2BitwRvjLNPrioVvPnK0Urc3fv9f2UAdRJEQAogrj6FjgEN/RssDeNlorFTzWR0xEr4AnNOOJfCGP+4x+lVWgpL9R0hJbtbZzRIDN1pM0/DiUXQIkF/pEa0BSDpWPhltSE= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx NISUS-GALERIA GALOU PRESENTS @ the BPM room – Friday,February 25, 2005 Eric Bollman/Enrique Sacasa Ben Owen/Andy Graydon Friday, February 25, 2005. Doors open at 8:00PM.Suggested donation $5.00 This event will feature a live performance that will be bringing together orchestrated duo collaborations between sound and video artists. In both sets, the artists will be improvising while responding to the video especially created for this presentation. Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY 11211 237 Kent Ave. (bet. North 1 St. and Grand St.) ------------------------------------ http://www.ericbollman.com http://www.ericbollman.com/NISUS.jpg xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 12:30:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34548-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5998 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:29:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 5988 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:29:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:29:20 +0100 From: sylvain solaro <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Le 21 févr. 05, à 18:37, David Powers a écrit : > First, I buy almost all of these cheap electronics USED. They are > cheap > because they are obsolete. They may not have been cheap originally. > And people are exploited somewhere for almost every new item we buy > here > in the USA. Anyway, new musical instruments aren't actually cheap at > all here, at least typical gear might cost an entire month of my wages. > > Second, the developed world - and here I can only speak from experience > of the United States - has quite a few of those truly destitute people. > I see so many homeless people everyday here in Chicago, it's quite sad > really. And if you go into the worse off urban areas things are really > bad. Average working people are still exploited in the United States, > regardless of a somewhat better lifestyle, and wages have generally > been > decreasing over the last few years. Meanwhile, prisons are growing > larger and larger and entire communities are devestated by drug laws > which systematically remove "delinquent" parts of the population. Most > workers here hardly have lifestyles that are "opulent." Many people > are > one paycheck from being homeless and broke. Depending on where one > lives, one may have more income but it all goes towards higher rent. > Better off than workers in underdeveloped countries, sure, but hardly a > new aristocracy. Finally, a greater purchasing power vis-a-vis other > workers does not translate into political power and autonomy - > characteristics which one would expect to in an aristocracy. > > Third, yes, exploitation of labor in underdeveloped countries is a > serious global political issue. But I think this focus on consumption > is problematic. There are many conscious people that try to make > reasonable purchases for only things they really need and do not live > the hyper-consumer lifestyle that is promoted on television. I suggest > that a politics of guilt is in appropriate in this issue. In this > case, > the focus needs to be on what can be done to better the working > conditions and increase the bargaining power of the workers in > underdeveloped countries. In this area it is still the struggle > between > workers and global capital that is most important. Reducing the > position or income of, say, American workers isn't going to bring any > advantage to other workers in underdeveloped countries. > > Can I go back to button-pushing music now, PLEASE?! ;) > > As soon as I get off work, I'm going to play my lovely DX-21 with three > broken keys (luckily only at the extreme registers) thought I bought > for > $100. > > ~David > > > David Powers > Secretary > DePaul University, School of Education > Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services > 773-325-4806 > >>>> xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx 02/20/05 05:33PM >>> > Before you get too carried away, do not forget that those "cheap" > electronics are cheap largely because of the continued subjugation of > the truly poor who comprise such a huge part of our manufacturing base > > today (and who do not own computers). We in the developed > (overdeveloped?) world are all, with the exception of a few truly > destitute, the elite, privileged, aristocratic few, and the opulence of > > our lifestyle rivals that of noblemen throughout history. The > separation of rich and poor has not changed, it has merely been > globalized. At least, that has been my growing impression lately. > > Galen > > >> So if I can create music through the use of buttons and sliders, >> computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything that is readily >> available and affordable to the working person, that's an incredible >> opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a piano, so the >> availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also an amazing asset. > I >> don't understand why some people want music to be an elite activity >> only >> available to a privileged few. >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 03:15:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34547-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66335 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:15:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 66324 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:15:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:14:24 +0000 From: twonky yup <xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] {bias peak license change} X-Originating-IP: [12.78.7.225] X-Sender: xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2005 03:15:03.0495 (UTC) FILETIME=[08449D70:01C51A1F] as quaint as this sounds, i prefer SonicWORX to Peak, although its rather apples and oranges. i prefer to boot WORX up in OS9, even though i have it runs classic. for some things i fall back on peak. actually, when i was running windows and OS9, i prefered sound forge to peak, but i never bought the port to mac. i must now unbox the PC in the closet in order to use the windows plug-ins for a math lab, so the perk of this action is to get to use sound forge again after a couple of years. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 02:20:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34546-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47755 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:20:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 47744 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:20:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:20:21 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] book citations? In-reply-to: <p06200711be42bb8e5dbf@[192.168.0.2]> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE42A415.1BA83%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction > by Jonathan Sterne Who, may I add, is Professor at McGill University in Communication Studies, one of my departments. Excellent book; excellent professor, and a lefty to boot: http://eserver.org/bs/ And a blog here: http://sterneworks.org/blog.html tV --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 00:41:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34545-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98369 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:41:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 98358 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:41:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:35:51 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] book citations? In-reply-to: <007e01c51a07$9d70b630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200701be42d1535801@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p06200711be42bb8e5dbf@[192.168.0.2]> <007e01c51a07$9d70b630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 4:27 PM -0800 2/23/05, roberth wrote: >great list add r murray shaeffer's tunning of the world I should have, but thought it was too obvious. FYI I just went to Amazon and plugged in variations on "soundscape" and various modifiers, then used their recommendations to track down others. Most of these books I'm not directly familiar with, but they're now in my wish list. I really am amazed at how much there is, especially compared to just a few years ago. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 24 00:27:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34544-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94543 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:27:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 94533 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:27:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:27:23 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] book citations? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007e01c51a07$9d70b630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p06200711be42bb8e5dbf@[192.168.0.2]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx great list add r murray shaeffer's tunning of the world ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zvonar" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] book citations? > At 5:50 PM -0500 2/23/05, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: >> >>Anybody recall the titles/author of the, I believe TWO, books that >>have come out recently treating the acoustic landscapes of the past? >> >>One I think dealt with London in Hogarth's time and the other,,, >> >>another English period. > > > > Victorian Soundscapes > by John M. Picker > > Soundscapes > by Kay Kaufman Shelemay > > The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction > by Jonathan Sterne > > The Auditory Culture Reader (Sensory Formations) > by Michael Bull (Editor), Les Back (Editor) > > The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction > by Jonathan Sterne > > Listening to Nineteenth-Century America > by Mark M. Smith > > The Soundscape of Modernity: Architectural Acoustics and the Culture > of Listening in America, 1900-1933 > by Emily Thompson > > Sensory Worlds in Early America > by Peter Charles Hoffer > > How Early America Sounded > by Richard Cullen Rath > > Listening to Nineteenth-Century America > by Mark M. Smith > > Wild Soundscapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World > by Bernard L. Krause > > Into a Wild Sanctuary: A Life in Music & Natural Sound > by Bernard L. Krause > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 23:35:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34543-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69996 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:35:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 69738 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:35:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:37:26 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Petition... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <022501c51a00$a1a82280$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <20050222232901.1810719838.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx To where in Europe and for how long? Lars ----- Original Message ----- From: "Plagasul" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: [microsound] Petition... Hello. I am planning a trip for the weekend of the 4th, March, and i would like to know if there is anything interesting going on around Europe involving arts or sound, or both. After frustrating googleing i found that emailing the list members could be a fast an effective way of getting such an information. Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! 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Wed Feb 23 23:20:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34542-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63046 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:20:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 63036 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:20:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:18:37 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] book citations? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200711be42bb8e5dbf@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_EjOJvLzdIwGMJuBpiFChvg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_EjOJvLzdIwGMJuBpiFChvg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 5:50 PM -0500 2/23/05, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > >Anybody recall the titles/author of the, I believe TWO, books that >have come out recently treating the acoustic landscapes of the past? > >One I think dealt with London in Hogarth's time and the other,,, > >another English period. Victorian Soundscapes by John M. Picker Soundscapes by Kay Kaufman Shelemay The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction by Jonathan Sterne The Auditory Culture Reader (Sensory Formations) by Michael Bull (Editor), Les Back (Editor) The Audible Past: Cultural Origins of Sound Reproduction by Jonathan Sterne Listening to Nineteenth-Century America by Mark M. Smith The Soundscape of Modernity: Architectural Acoustics and the Culture of Listening in America, 1900-1933 by Emily Thompson Sensory Worlds in Early America by Peter Charles Hoffer How Early America Sounded by Richard Cullen Rath Listening to Nineteenth-Century America by Mark M. Smith Wild Soundscapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World by Bernard L. Krause Into a Wild Sanctuary: A Life in Music & Natural Sound by Bernard L. Krause -- --Boundary_(ID_EjOJvLzdIwGMJuBpiFChvg)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 22:51:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34541-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 51912 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:51:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 51893 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:51:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:50:37 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] book citations? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey- Anybody recall the titles/author of the, I believe TWO, books that have come out recently treating the acoustic landscapes of the past? One I think dealt with London in Hogarth's time and the other,,, another English period. Help! Tad xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 21:57:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34540-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30355 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:57:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 30345 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:57:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:57:24 +0000 From: paulo raposo || sirr <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c [ To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE42ACC4.13530%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I took the text, or part of it, from the press-release of the label. But googling a little bit is easy to find the following text: "" The year 2009, looks set to be the final turn in the long standing vinyl revolution. A June 2003 press release from The Institute of Chemical Engineering, advised that key by- products of the current petroleum refining process would no longer be generated by 2009, due to deadlines agreed, in principle, with the chemical industry back in 1992. These deadlines were however, only finalised in 1999, in the face of increasing environmental concerns and lobbying. the institute of chemical engineering (iChemE) went on to advise that a voluntary co-funded research and development program to seek a green alternative, possibly a polycarbonate based compound had been proposed in the 1999 summary. However no members of the industry wide syndicate had been able to substantiate a sufficiently high market demand for a replacement for the petroleum by-product, which is the primary base for vinyl record albums. "" http://members4.boardhost.com/culturama/msg/3281.html http://www.tvaus.com/viewtopic.php?t=7122 Anyway, I tend to agree with John about being more a rumour than anything else. But nevertheless is symbolic of a part of audio culture that is about to disappear, if not completely, or not due to global agreements, at least because it turned culturally (and of course, economically) residual. Paulo raposo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 21:01:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34539-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6464 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:01:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 6454 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:01:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:00:01 +0000 From: bobby whn <xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [82.32.67.177] X-Sender: xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2005 21:01:02.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[C81BE480:01C519EA] i also agree, the point was made that expensive studio gear is fetishized , and i think also that manufacturers such as digidesign, focusrite and others have tried to set up a monopoly over 'sound quality' and establish this tinted window view of the cosy (deluxe)home studio as some kind of norm, i tend to simplify it a little and see it so as sound is amplitude/phase change over time only, so what really are you getting for all these amounts of money? the sampling rate is fixed, the bit-rate is fixed. i got GIVEN two atari 1040ste's which sequence midi as well as any current midi sequencer. home-made gear is great too, i made a spring reverb for £15 recently, and am now much more reluctant to spend money on any equipment, unless it was a dat recorder AND a hovercraft at the same time or something....for the price of a new hat. im lucky to even have the choice, but why waste money? >From: sylvain solaro <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:47:46 +0100 > >bravo! > >>First, I buy almost all of these cheap electronics USED. They are >>cheap >>because they are obsolete. They may not have been cheap >>originally. >>And people are exploited somewhere for almost every new item we buy >>here >>in the USA. Anyway, new musical instruments aren't actually cheap >>at >>all here, at least typical gear might cost an entire month of my >>wages. >> >> >........ > > >I live in France, and i think as you... In my home, my work and my >homework, i like to use old instuments... always i feel not so quiet >when i think i can have a good oportunity to buy new computers only >because they are cheaps... > > >Sylvain > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 20:07:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34538-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85559 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:07:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 85541 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:07:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:07:16 -0500 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] U.S. appeals court debates anti-piracy TV technology To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards told the FCC "(it) does not mean you get to rule the world." Another circuit judge, David Sentelle said: "It's going to have less content if it's not protected, but Congress didn't direct that you have to maximize content. You can't regulate washing machines. You can't rule the world." http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-02-22-tv-piracy_x.htm cheers, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://groovylab.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 18:48:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34537-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45960 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:48:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 45950 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:48:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:47:46 +0100 From: sylvain solaro <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bravo! > First, I buy almost all of these cheap electronics USED. They are > cheap > because they are obsolete. They may not have been cheap originally. > And people are exploited somewhere for almost every new item we buy > here > in the USA. Anyway, new musical instruments aren't actually cheap at > all here, at least typical gear might cost an entire month of my wages. > > ......... I live in France, and i think as you... In my home, my work and my homework, i like to use old instuments... always i feel not so quiet when i think i can have a good oportunity to buy new computers only because they are cheaps... Sylvain --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 15:14:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34536-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59822 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:14:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 59810 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:14:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:14:22 -0800 (PST) From: Curtis Cousins <xxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dQUml60NpB5+naEEiMVVYQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=iApgs1YYgWGv7KKYL5UoOw7tmNUlud1DTdcPb97va6aOL+UFp/f4o+07uOCNZuBQeJkg+7OSosPUWI2DaZW6/flV7VVucDZ6YN4dTNLcOvHaDTHgfLPswT8TARJsPbiSBHfrFF+uE9QCbKhvnR8Y1Y2UaxO/oetJXBd6k56fRSY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dQUml60NpB5+naEEiMVVYQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I know of this phenomenon. I have captured one EVP so far of a woman whose voice sounded like she had a box over her head. I couldn't hear her words, but could hear her inflections and her accent. Every now and then I could tell when she was saying "uhhh" or "um" but after a while, she just got cut off during the middle of a sentence. I captured this recording at a graveyard with a group of people scattered off in different directions of the cemetary (it's a big one) at night (it's one that's open all day and night). The voice started right as I stopped talking, and before a friend replied to something I said. It was total quietness inbetween the times we said something to each other. There was a woman there with us, but she was on the opposite side of the cemetary, so it wasn't her. The voice didn't even sound like her at all. The equipment I used: stereo microphones and a minidisk player/recorder. That same night, about a few minutes after the EVP occurred, most of us saw a red streak in the outline, blurred form of a human going fast down the main cemetary road, towards the adjoining mosyleum. Then it slowly faded out 6 seconds later. There was definitely some strange stuff happening that night. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --Boundary_(ID_dQUml60NpB5+naEEiMVVYQ)-- From ???@??? 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Wed Feb 23 15:06:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34534-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55071 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:06:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 55061 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:06:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:06:25 +0100 From: kristen_ <xxxxxxx_@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] mzweig / kristen_ To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7Zpk1nSYrcSsrhn+5xhMjw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7Zpk1nSYrcSsrhn+5xhMjw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit schwarzer gegenwartskunst contemporary art listening/concert mzweig / kristen_ 25.2.2005 21 h free entrance / drinks 1€ schlegelstrasse 31 10115 berlin tel +49.30.24 63 97 39 di-sa 14-19 h www.schwarzer.ws --Boundary_(ID_7Zpk1nSYrcSsrhn+5xhMjw)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 14:59:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34533-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52015 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:59:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 52004 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:59:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:59:32 +0100 From: kristen_ <xxxxxxx_@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] mzweig / kristen_ To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MknZ55TaTtaX8Fu4hNHhvQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MknZ55TaTtaX8Fu4hNHhvQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit schwarzer gegenwartskunst contemporary art listening/concert mzweig / kristen_ 25.2.2005 21 h free entrance / drinks 1€ schlegelstrasse 31 10115 berlin tel +49.30.24 63 97 39 di-sa 14-19 h www.schwarzer.ws --Boundary_(ID_MknZ55TaTtaX8Fu4hNHhvQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 13:57:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34532-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37573 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:57:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 37562 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:57:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:57:32 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Micromusic in Buenos Aires? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_eDlznNvSFN8NmSxhO2zagQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=GbMMc8JVnf8XDLVodH5GOMQlC9sNY8rnNcDundAdMrbedU2A2uN8Fo1HH2B9AI8RlvByg46zAyTCvzFWVaNtbuNxmX5/XHEfAZCQn1gzCbceFCmmbIlYMNgId3BpJgnlEEVhFiuvUnfPW7Go2OQOk6VY8lqVPrjH4aC3SOlQyoo= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_eDlznNvSFN8NmSxhO2zagQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello to all, I go to Buenos Aires, Argentina, at finish of March. ¿Some recomendation to see or listen? Thanks, Mika. Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/OpenPatches If you're into sharing your tools with the list, post your code and/or patches here for AudioMulch, Csound, Max/MSP, PD, SuperCollider, or sim. Email me for more details. P "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson label: http://centibel.org/ blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Feb 23 13:50:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34531-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35053 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:50:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 35043 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:50:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:40:45 +0100 From: cjitter <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] aventuras sonoras - madrid To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE42466C.10AD2%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Aventuras sonoras La Casa Encendida Ronda de Valencia,2 28012 Madrid T 91 506 38 75/88 www.lacasaencendida.com Asmus Tietchens y Thomas Köner Jueves 3 y viernes 4 de marzo, 20h Philip Jeck y Janek Schaefer Jueves 10 y viernes 11 de marzo, 20h Kaffe Matthews y Andrea Neumann Jueves 17 y viernes 18 de marzo, 20h Auditorio Entrada 3€ cada dÃa Venta de entradas desde tres dÃas antes de cada jueves en: www.entradas.com, en el T. 902 22 16 22 y en La Casa Encendida. Colaboran ROTOR: www.geometrikrecords.com/rotor.php3 y Pulpa: www.pulpa.net <http://www.pulpa.net/> Aventuras sonoras Aventuras sonoras es una programación que presenta tres proyectos de seis creadores de música contemporánea avanzada. Los jueves se muestran los trabajos en solitario de cada uno de ellos y los viernes, las colaboraciones en dúo de estos artistas que aúnan inquietudes para aventurarse en los territorios profundos de sonidos insólitos. Asmus Tietchens y Thomas Köner Música exploratoria Jueves 3 y viernes 4 de marzo Asmus Tietchens http://www.tietchens.de/ Jueves 3 de marzo Asmus Tietchens (Hamburgo) es toda una leyenda y una de las más importantes figuras en el campo de la música electrónica no-académica y la manipulación sonora. Considerado un pionero, además de compositor es también un teórico de la música. Comenzando a grabar a finales de los sesenta, ha publicado más de 50 trabajos en diversos formatos y en distintos sellos de todo el mundo, aparte de colaboraciones con otros artistas. Su música, analÃtica y emocional a la vez, ha evolucionado desde las melodÃas y atmósferas sintéticas (colaborando con Cluster y Eno en los setenta), hasta sus más recientes exploraciones sonoras con medios digitales, como en la serie "Menge" publicada por el prestigioso sello Mille Plateaux/Ritornell. Thomas Köner http://www.koener.de/ Jueves 3 de marzo La carrera de este prestigioso artista electrónico multimedia nacido en Dortmund abarca quince años de intensa investigación en el estudio de grabación, abandonando el ritmo y la melodÃa y centrándose en particular en el fenómeno del color del sonido, un concepto que ha extendido recientemente al campo de la video instalación y la imagen en movimiento. Ha publicado más de una docena de discos y trabajado en prestigiosos centros culturales como el Museo Louvre y el centro Georges Pompidou en ParÃs y la Hayward Gallery de Londres. El pasado año fue premiado con el importante "Golden Nica" Prix de Ars Electronica (Digital Musics), y el "Norman Prize" al mejor film en el Filmwinter Sttugart. En la escena techno experimental es más conocido por su proyecto Porter Ricks. Kontakt Der Jünglinge http://www.kontaktderjunglinge.de/ Viernes 4 de marzo Tomando el nombre de dos composiciones de K.Stockhausen, KdJ es el proyecto conjunto de Asmus Tietchens y Thomas Köner, que cuenta ya con cuatro discos publicados con grabaciones de algunas de sus actuaciones en directo. Dos talentos se unen para explorar las profundidades oscuras de la electrónica. Su intensidad parece heredada de la música post-industrial de los ochenta. Philip Jeck y Janek Schaefer Turntablismo Jueves 10 y viernes 11 de marzo Philip Jeck www.philipjeck.com <http://www.philipjeck.com/> Jueves 10 de marzo Tras haberse dado a conocer con su subversiva instalación 'Vinyl Requiem', junto a Lol Sargent, en la que se empleaban 180 tocadiscos, merecedora del Time Out Performance Award en 1993, Philip Jeck se ha convertido en uno de los exponentes de la música experimental más inquieta. 7 es su último cd para Touch, séptimo álbum en solitario en una trayectoria siempre fiel a la misma premisa: la música nace de la experimentación con loops de vinilo y scratches, empleando tocadisdos Bush, Ferguson y Fidelity & Philips, asà como mini-discs Sony y teclados Casio. Janek Schaefer www.audioh.com Jueves 10 de marzo Arquitecto y artista sonoro, Janek Schaefer siempre ha estado interesado en la creación de música especÃfica para un lugar. Especializándose en los diferentes aspectos del sonido, ha dado luz a multitud de discos para Asphodel, Sub Rosa, Staalplaat o Diskono entre muchos otros, además de instalaciones, bandas sonoras para exhibiciones, etc. En 1997 presentó su 'Tri-phonic Turntable', un tocadiscos con 3 brazos, el más versátil del mundo según el Libro Guiness de los Records. Songs for Europe Viernes 11 de marzo Philip Jeck y Janek Schaefer, artistas británicos, presentarán en directo su álbum conjunto, Songs For Europe (Asphodel), mostrando las posibilidades del vinilo y de sus reproductores, una actuación que evocará la grabación de un trabajo que les llevó hasta Estambul y Atenas, donde las ondas herzinas y la música local inspiraron a ambos artistas. Electroacústica y electrónica para situarnos en otro contexto espacial y sonoro. Kaffe Matthews y Andrea Neumann Improvisación electroacústica Jueves 17 y viernes 18 de marzo Kaffe Matthews www.annetteworks.com <http://www.annetteworks.com/> Jueves 17 de marzo Artista sonora ubicada en Londres, Kaffe Matthews creó en 1997 Annette Works, sello discográfico y estudio desde el que lanza sus propias grabaciones, inmersas en la electroacústica. Grabaciones todas ellas que reproducen sus directos, improvisaciones basadas en el uso de software auto-diseñado con el que reprocesa un sonido matriz, moviéndose, según sus palabras, “en esa frágil frontera entre éxito y fracasoâ€. Andrea Neumann Jueves 17 de marzo Comenzando su carrera como pianista, Andrea Neumann quiso explorar las posibilidades del piano, reduciéndolo a cuerdas, tabla de resonancia y marco de metal, además de emplear electrónica para manipular y ampliar sonidos que de otra forma serÃan imperceptibles en muchas ocasiones. Entre los artistas con los que ha colaborado se encuentran Toshimaru Nakamura, Annette Krebs, Ignaz Schick, Sachiko M y Kaffe Matthews. Un dúo del momento Viernes 18 de marzo La Casa Encendida volverá a reunir en un concierto a Andrea Neumann y Kaffe Matthews, alemana e inglesa respectivamente, quienes no actuaban juntas desde Tokyo 2002. Un directo que jugará con el concepto de la improvisación, en el que Kaffe sampleará y reprocesará los sonidos que genere Andrea, a tiempo real, según nazcan, para depararnos algo totalmente nuevo. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 12:56:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34530-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15464 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:56:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 15454 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:56:43 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:59:13 +1100 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Australia: Uber Lingua in Melbourne and Hobart over the next few daze... In-reply-to: <BE42C923.FE14%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE42C951.FE16%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx MELBOURNE: This Thursday the 24th of Feb at St Jeromes Uber Lingua is in full effect with three guests, alongside regulars Raceless, Saigon Sausage and bP Bubotic Hellfire, a member of the band Morloch expands on his regular repertoire and enters the DJ realm, messin' with your head in many ways .... Vocal, funky uplifting intelligent nu-jack folk music moving through to rootsy, non-stop bangin' Latvian pagan-metal with happy-hardcore jazzy braindance bong'n'grind anthems in the mixxx: DJ BUBOTIC HELLPHIRE will play pre-recorded music. http://www.emilezile.com Expero sound man from Brisbane, 2 Pants Rotation is Alan Nguyen. He gets motion sickness doing head-spins on abruptly halting bus aisles. Bites mics for prior vocalist dried saliva flavour whilst his noisy r’n’b beats and stutter-hop blows earwax on your shirt collar. Hailing from Sydney, Mashy P plays Uber once again, this time enjoying a stint in the late guest spot allowing him to energise his normally eclectic mix of electro, Arab and Indian inspired mashups, DnB and neo-techno... The heat is thick and Jeromes (not Jerome himself) has got it's top off at the moment so it's daintily the time to come down and enjoy the outdoor space that makes St Jeromes so unique... For more info, bios, photos and free mp3s look at http://www.uberlingua.com/melb St Jeromes 7 Caledonian lane Melb CBD (directly behind the lounge) Every thursday 6pm till 1am _______ HOBART: After two solid events in 2004, Uber Lingua and Hobart's own Cluster collective join together once again to present LINGO III... at Sirens Focussing once again on the incredibly diverse and ecclectic sound found in other languages around the world, LINGO this time brings together some of Hobart's most active exponents of trans-lingual music. Joining in from Melbourne once again is bP, bringing a fresh batch of sonics gathered since he was last in Hobart in November 04... bP is one of the hosts of Uber Lingua's weekly Melbourne club and the energy behind the national wanderings of the crew as a whole. Also involved in both LINGO events previously were sakamoiz and Gusto who are revolutionary thinkers, putting their preaching into practice thru Djing highly exotic sounds in other languages... sakamoiz (who proudly lives in Cygnet) is originally from Switzerland and spent a large portion of his recent life in Mexico. Hence the quite mutant like fusion of Euro-Central American influences in his music. Being Swiss however, encourages Sakamoiz to be global in approach and uphold the reputation of his people. Gusto, one of the key figures in the Cluster Collective is fairly obsessed with Japanese music (and other Japanese stuff) and has a comprehensive collection of Nipon Hip Hop, Dub, Expero and electronic sounds... DJ BTC hosted Hobart's longest running dub®gae radio show, a sound which influences his newly evolved show What Am I on Edge Radio. Going LINGO, this time BTC is focusing on eastern european & italian hip hop. Fabio Chivandha, a well-known musician in his native Zimbabwe, is collaborating with a DJ line-up for the first time in Hobart. Nitriya from Edge Radio's 'Rhythms of India' is back due to popular demand from LINGO in September and several sets at the recent Hobart Fringe Festival, spinning Bollywood remixes and classics. In fact, all but one of the Hobartian line-up have radio programs on Edge... Venue: Sirens : 10 Victoria Street (near Chickenfeed Collins Street) Price: $6 or $10 with a CD for more info, bios and free mp3s goto http://www.uberlingua.com also look at the new Cluster site http://www.clustercollective.com Demos can be sent to PO Box 2613 Fitzroy 3065 Australia Stay tuned for Adelaide info ... and a potential Uber Lingua tour of Sydney, Brisbane and Perth... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 04:13:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34529-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81057 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:13:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 81047 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:13:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:13:33 -0800 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: poverty In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > First, I buy almost all of these cheap electronics USED. They are > cheap > because they are obsolete. They may not have been cheap originally. Right. But then you can hardly go cite the price of a top of the line violin as a reason why acoustic instruments are elitist. But I don't think that quite what you were saying. Sure, the violin is associated with an aristocratic tradition, but it knows nothing of that. Poor people can just as easily make music on any instrument, whether it's a cheap fiddle or a cheap casio. And those people privileged with time and money can make "better" music, according to a certain standard, whether it is on a violin and years of training, or a G5 and extensive DSP knowledge. Or, one of the worst culprits in my opinion, the ridiculous formalism of modern recording, where vague terms such as "warm" and "punchy" are code words for "the sound you get from an insanely expensive compressor with World War II radio knobs on it". > Second, the developed world - and here I can only speak from experience > of the United States - has quite a few of those truly destitute people. > I see so many homeless people everyday here in Chicago, it's quite sad > really. And if you go into the worse off urban areas things are really > bad. Average working people are still exploited in the United States, > regardless of a somewhat better lifestyle, and wages have generally > been > decreasing over the last few years [...] Quite right. I sometimes forget about the scary 'other' third world growing in the heart of the biggest cities. I often tend to take analogies too far. It just seems to me sometimes that we are not as far from feudalism as we are often taught. > As soon as I get off work, I'm going to play my lovely DX-21 with three > broken keys (luckily only at the extreme registers) thought I bought > for > $100. > ~David And I will play my $30 ukulele :) Galen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 04:04:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34528-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77442 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:04:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 77432 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:04:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:06:05 +1100 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] testing (don't read) In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE424C5D.10F11%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sorry! testing new mailserver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 23 00:04:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34527-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96503 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:04:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 96493 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:04:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 01:04:48 +0100 (CET) From: guidohenneboehl <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.worlditc.org/k_06_spiricom.htm gives a great example of how absurd it can get :-) good fun though... --- Polly Glott <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> schrieb: > > > Hi all! > This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a > shot. > I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had > come across the mysteries with mysterious voice > phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, while > recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish > filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch > some mysterious voices on tape. The scary, but yet > fascinating messages also appeared on air when > recording randomly from the short, medium or long > wave bands on his radio... > By Jürgensson's explaination the mysterious voices > originated from the dead. > Voices from the other side. > These phenomenon continued to appear and over the > next 25 years, Jürgensson became a celebrity among > the paranormal society. Konstantine Raudive is > another highly respected name in this field. My > question to whomever it may concern: Have you ever > heard of anything like this? Do you believe in it? > Can anyone refer to own experiences on this matter? > Ever heard of EVP? (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) > Performing a study and thankful for all help. > > Polly > > > > > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 250MB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 23:28:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34526-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57698 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:28:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 57688 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:28:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:28:25 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZT8BkefTIiuACYQ00UA5ag)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ZT8BkefTIiuACYQ00UA5ag) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fairly recent albums dealing with EVP include: Crepescule - Music For Decay Schloss Tegal - Black Static Transmission Bass Communion - Ghosts On Magnetic Tape Bass Communion - Ghosts On Magnetic Tape Andrew Liles Reconstruction "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/ --Boundary_(ID_ZT8BkefTIiuACYQ00UA5ag)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 23:20:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34525-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54191 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:20:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 54179 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:20:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:17:38 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Polly Glott wrote: > > Hi all! > This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. > I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the mysteries with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, while recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch some mysterious voices on tape. The scary, but yet fascinating messages also appeared on air when recording randomly from the short, medium or long wave bands on his radio... > By Jürgensson's explaination the mysterious voices originated from the dead. > Voices from the other side. > These phenomenon continued to appear and over the next 25 years, Jürgensson became a celebrity among the paranormal society. Konstantine Raudive is another highly respected name in this field. My question to whomever it may concern: Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do you believe in it? Can anyone refer to own experiences on this matter? Ever heard of EVP? (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) > Performing a study and thankful for all help. > > Polly > just some thoughts, I didn't read deeply on that topic so far but its interesting: - voices might be frequency pollution There are loads of sounds around us which we cant hear. Although recording equipment has its limits (digital obviousily but also analog), maybe even due a mal- or not foreseen function it translates some sound pollution into human audible range. I have here for instance a device which is supposed to transfer supersonic to our range and it produces some noises and actually works at least as a supersonic detector, I tested it against supersonic emitters I used in an robotproject. But the results sounds a bit that it uses FM to 'pitch' down the sounds, not very convincing and nothing which can't be done on a Yamaha FM or Software Synth. - wish is the driver of perception Sometimes people refer to unknown sounds to voices, for instance the Theremin. Humans are trained, used, made to or whatever to filter / recognizes patterns out of chaos. Especially faces seems to be important for survival, there was once an experiment which shows that babys reacts to pattern which barly resemble to a face, like you will do in a second :) Stare on a whitenoise TV and soon you start to phantasize things into, I guess thats why all the tinfoilhat afficiendos sees faces or hear voices all around so take care. Listen to noise or another example the wind, and you might recognize something because you are trainend to hear something. Phrepas it is a smilaur tnihg lkie tihs. Your brain bridge the gaps and make something out of chaos, simular to an checksum error correction. My point is that these researcher picked up some noise by accident and put more meaning into it then there it is. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of stuff out there which can't be explainend yet and need more research. Things which are paranormal now will be routine tomorrow. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- New release: Notstandskomitee track for compilation 12" 'world of disorder' on http://www.geneticmusic.de more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 22:53:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34524-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40286 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:46:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 40276 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:46:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:46:36 +0000 From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: bWh3cnBjQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the artist mike kelley has referenced the tradition of interest in EVP in several of his art works.... A wonderful book that sheds some light on the history of investigations into EVP as well as many other subjects of interest to many on this list is entitled 'Wireless Imagination".... mhw > > > Hi all! > This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. > I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the mysteries > with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, while recording > songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson > happened to catch some mysterious voices on tape. The scary, but yet fascinating > messages also appeared on air when recording randomly from the short, medium or > long wave bands on his radio... > By Jürgensson's explaination the mysterious voices originated from the dead. > Voices from the other side. > These phenomenon continued to appear and over the next 25 years, Jürgensson > became a celebrity among the paranormal society. Konstantine Raudive is another > highly respected name in this field. My question to whomever it may concern: > Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do you believe in it? Can anyone > refer to own experiences on this matter? Ever heard of EVP? (Electronic Voice > Phenomenon) > Performing a study and thankful for all help. > > Polly > > > > > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 22:33:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34523-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 33732 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:33:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 33715 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:33:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: | KADET | <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RADICAL CUTS: Experiments in Music, Sound & Image To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=WMot90bSEMqdJZgzsxl9LOA2UJcZaMoTFpojy8EJsaWJqpGToEhYB3M4BGHrkaiMJ+vKBNBL6am6oJFPTb0a9ahOR5zNveKs0AgmuQYoJ5k52f5df06lqyhaYRLrHtZ/uFCiTbABjQnRN64hhngsUv9bywXdl/vkVVk5uCJg7fs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx RADICAL CUTS Experiments in Music, Sound & Image Friday March 4th & Saturday March 5th @ 8pm Crazy Space, 18th St. Art Center, 1629 18th St. #2, Santa Monica, LA Suggested Donation: $5 curated by Adam Overton and Kadet Kuhne info: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Crazy Space proudly presents "Radical Cuts: Experiments in Music, Sound & Image," a weekend of sound performances and audio/video screenings that explore reactive space between the artists and their works. The event will showcase new works by ANDRE VIDA from LA on Friday, and SCOTT ARFORD, TONY CROSS and MASAKO TANAKA from San Francisco on Saturday. There will be a reception for the artists both nights. FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 2005, 8-10PM >VIDATONE This evening will showcase Los Angeles composer and performer ANDRE VIDA and his new series of animated scores for improvisers, the Vidatone Notation System. His system uses motion graphics as a primary element of musical scoring and interpretation. Eric Clark, a String Quartet, and other improvisers will perform a dynamic range of strategies interpreting Vida’s notation system; with costumes by Leah Piehl and lighting by Jeanette Yew. SATURDAY MARCH 5, 2005, 8-9:30PM >REACTIVE An evening of performances and screenings by three San Francisco artists, SCOTT ARFORD, TONY CROSS AND MASAKO TANAKA. ARFORD will perform TV-IV, live processing of audio/video feedback loops from TV monitors, and The Song of the Station, a live interpretation of his time-lapse video that is an homage to Giorgio DeChirico’s poem. Marrow, by CROSS, is an improvisation involving intersecting textures created with violin, field recordings and live reprocessing of sounds. TANAKA’s digital video ìr.e.mî (2004) is an experimental short that repeats a process of random changes to let it achieve an arbitrary execution. --- THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 22:28:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34522-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30476 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:28:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 30465 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:28:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:29:01 +0100 From: Plagasul <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Petition... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Message-id: <20050222232901.1810719838.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Bloomba 1.0.5 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 (normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello. I am planning a trip for the weekend of the 4th, March, and i would like to know if there is anything interesting going on around Europe involving arts or sound, or both. After frustrating googleing i found that emailing the list members could be a fast an effective way of getting such an information. Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 22:06:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34521-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17522 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:06:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 17511 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:06:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:05:56 -0800 From: Craque <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2005 22:10:29.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[519207A0:01C5192B] William Gibson uses this stuff in his most recent novel (Pattern Recognition). Very cool book. The main character's mother is a huge proponent and researcher/analyzer of EVP messages. On Feb 22, 2005, at 2:00 PM, graham miller wrote: > http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/white_noise/ > > never saw it but heard it was bad, though... > > Polly Glott wrote: > >> Hi all! >> This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. >> I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the >> mysteries with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late >> 50:s, while recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish >> filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch some mysterious >> voices on tape. The scary, but yet fascinating messages also appeared >> on air > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 21:58:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34520-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12417 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:58:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 12407 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:58:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:00:57 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/white_noise/ never saw it but heard it was bad, though... Polly Glott wrote: > Hi all! > This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. > I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the mysteries with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, while recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch some mysterious voices on tape. The scary, but yet fascinating messages also appeared on air --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 21:53:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34518-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8240 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:53:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 8213 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:53:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:59:06 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2(BETA1)/8.00 (FreeBSD, build 913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.evprecording.com/ (lol:) quite all right: http://www.stefanbion.de/evpmaker/index.htm there also was a recording of Zbigniew Karkowski's attempt to capture some of the evps ( btw. dedicated to Raymond Cass ) good luck with the study t On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:38:59 -0500, Polly Glott <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > Hi all! > This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. > I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the > mysteries with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, > while recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish filmproducer > Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch some mysterious voices on tape. > The scary, but yet fascinating messages also appeared on air when > recording randomly from the short, medium or long wave bands on his > radio... > By Jürgensson's explaination the mysterious voices originated from the > dead. > Voices from the other side. > These phenomenon continued to appear and over the next 25 years, > Jürgensson became a celebrity among the paranormal society. Konstantine > Raudive is another highly respected name in this field. My question to > whomever it may concern: Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do > you believe in it? Can anyone refer to own experiences on this matter? > Ever heard of EVP? (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) > Performing a study and thankful for all help. > > Polly > > > > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 21:53:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34519-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8895 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:53:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 8861 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:53:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:53:38 -0600 (CST) From: Manrico Montero <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] manrico xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NBYuuCvMSIDULBayhBrMcQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NBYuuCvMSIDULBayhBrMcQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings to all the Microsounders, just to share more sounds with the list, thanx so much to John Nowak, for the chance to upload some stuff at the Ruccas.org server, pure respect and the best wishes from Mexico City, http://www.ruccas.org/index.php?Manrico%20Montero Manrico --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. --Boundary_(ID_NBYuuCvMSIDULBayhBrMcQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 21:39:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34517-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98261 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:39:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 98244 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:39:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:38:59 -0500 From: Polly Glott <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Mysterious on air phenomenon... X-Originating-IP: 83.166.11.179 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxx-x.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.51) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 22 Feb 2005 21:38:59 -0000 X-Originating-Server: ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all! This might sound a bit odd... But i'll give it a shot. I was just wondering if anyone out there, ever had come across the mysteries with mysterious voice phenomenon on the air? In the late 50:s, while recording songbirds in his backyard, the Swedish filmproducer Friedrich Jürgensson happened to catch some mysterious voices on tape. The scary, but yet fascinating messages also appeared on air when recording randomly from the short, medium or long wave bands on his radio... By Jürgensson's explaination the mysterious voices originated from the dead. Voices from the other side. These phenomenon continued to appear and over the next 25 years, Jürgensson became a celebrity among the paranormal society. Konstantine Raudive is another highly respected name in this field. My question to whomever it may concern: Have you ever heard of anything like this? Do you believe in it? Can anyone refer to own experiences on this matter? Ever heard of EVP? (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) Performing a study and thankful for all help. Polly -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 20:45:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34516-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69531 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:45:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 69518 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:45:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:45:25 -0800 (PST) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [ music in black and white ] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Music in Black and White New mp3 release from Archive Available for a limited time only at http://www.darkwinter.com "Synesthesia" is the experience of a stimulus by a different sense than that for which it was intended-- hearing colors, for example. Whether or not he's a full-fledged synesthetic, sound artist Mike Hallenbeck tends to "see" sounds-- as a space of constantly evolving form, dimension, hue, value, highlight, and shadow. Hallenbeck's "musique plastique" project Archive explores sound as an experience of margin and threshold, of the microscopic and the parenthetical, as a mutable component of a listening space. A group of Archive pieces deemed "greyscale" by Hallenbeck have been collected for "Music in Black and White", a new mp3 release from Dark Winter. The material ranges from long-form "demixes" of tracks by Fadladder and Datura 1.0 ("In De Stijl of the Night", "That Will Be All") to pieces derived entirely from a binaural recording of a bike shop ("Trappr Keepr") and from the sound of Hallenbeck clucking his tongue ("Spork"). From stark and prickly to gauzy and ephemeral, the pieces blend with the incidental sounds of one's environment to provide a unique listening experience with each playback. Try it on your headphones at a Man Ray photo exhibit, or as a soundtrack for "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari". Enjoy! Download "Music in Black and White" at Dark Winter: http://www.darkwinter.com Thanks for your time... Best regards, Mike Hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 17:17:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34514-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57189 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:17:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 57178 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:17:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:17:14 +0100 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c [ http://www.cronica.pt ] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a0610050abe411190e973@[134.102.222.115]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Word's out that the good old vinyl industry will be >> off by the year 2009, it >> seems that an agreement within the chemical industry >> states that the key >> by-products of the current petroleum refining >> process will no longer be > > generated by that time, meaning: bye-bye new vinyl > > Bogus -- I don't believe that at all... There is no monumental agreement between those two sectors to begin with, nor is there standardization ("the process") with refineries globally... sounds like an extreme irrational net-rumor. and besides, there wil always be the responsibility to melt all those old albums ;-\ jh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 16:38:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34513-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44454 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:38:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 44439 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:38:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] BETA_LAB - Feb 26th 2005 - MTL To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx phoniq - beta lab press release PHONIQ presents BETA-LAB when: saturday february 26th 2005 where: la salle d'attente (the back room of cafe esperanza) 5490 st-laurent, montreal, canada time: 9pm - 3am how much: FREE BETA-LAB is a monthly night of electronic music collaberation and experimentation featuring phoniq resident artists: naw, cyan, scant intone, various, anton along side a variey of monthly guests. This month's BETA-LAB will feature: Heart & Soul - Live - esoterik NAW V.S. Anton - live - antontrax.com/noisefactoryrecords.com Bopp - laptop DJ - bopp.ca for more info visit: www.phoniq.net ---------------------------------------------------- PRESS RELEASE The PHONIQ collective brings you another twist on another year of electronic music showcases. This time around PHONIQ is happy to present BETA-LAB a monthly showcase of electronic music collaberation and experimentation. BETA-LAB will focus on teaming up resident PHONIQ artists with other members of the canadian electronic music community. BETA-LAB is a space for experimentation to try out new ideas, for artists to try out new ideas, projects, collaberations. a testing ground for laptop artists, hardware musicians, djs and video artists a like. every month a different project or projects will be presented. each of these events are designed to act as an exploration into the different intersections between technology and music/art making. BETA-LAB is not designed to feature one artist in particular but to act more as an equal testing ground for all, for both the performer and the audience member. the BETA-LAB series is about an ever changing creative process, each months event details will be announced at www.phoniq.net BIOS/INFO PHONIQ www.phoniq.net phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic music/art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of montreal and canada. we aim to showcase upstart music producers, djs, and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. the concept for phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the montreal/canadian electronic music and digital arts community: ckut-fm dj/host cyan and dub glitch techno producer naw. phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. naw brings the clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in toronto, which hosted such artists as: monolake, kit clayton and sutekh. cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio, event coordinating and dj talents. since then the collective has grown to include 5 core members responsible for keeping things running. after 6 short months, phoniq has grown from an idea of "how can we create a viable promotional vehicle for canadian electronic artists", into a music series, a net-label, an active community mailing-list and a canadian electronic music resource. HEART & SOUL Humanity receives hundreds of cosmic signals on a daily basis. Of these, certainly the most complex come from a place simply known as Planet Nebula.Chief among the Nebular codebreakers here on Earth is the team of Heart & Soul. Their working methods combine the pioneering inter-planetary research of the eminent Dr. Blowfin, the study of subterranean, or underground, wave-form activity, a careful monitering of circle makers, as well as their previously established Solar Mist Approach. The H&S team are working towards a comprehensive decryption program for the Nebular codes and a better understanding of what they can mean for us. BOPP www.bopp.ca Montreal based Laptop DJ Bopp currently plays the "Deep Fried Daze" netradio show on netmusique.com every friday at 4 pm. NAW www.noisefactoryrecords.com montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clever-music, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. he has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada.to co-enside with his recent releases on these labels and plans to return to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. ANTON www.antontrax.com recently relocated to montreal from the west coast, anton has been refining his sound since 1999. in an era where most are abandoning their hardware to go the software route, anton has taken advantage of cheap pawn-shop synths and samplers, made obsolete by economic cycle, but still rich with potential. his signature sound features emotive melodies, lush minor chords, and distant textures. as somewhat of a reaction to the clean computer-based sound prevalent today, antons music tends to be rough, gritty, and deeply compressed. the influence of the environment of the west coast of canada has certainly left its mark. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 04:37:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34512-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34488 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:37:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 34470 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:37:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:37:43 -0800 (PST) From: zach layton <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Darmstadt @ Galapagos WED 2/23 : the =?UNKNOWN?Q?N=BAZONE?= TRIO Vs MOSTRA To: nymax yahoogroup <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=KVOAk6I29Ylocm5OsTvUrRBjHdhqy8m1gCqTmPHtZF58d4MS8B3cAqaWmzsXYm8fN9TMaZPUKuCEAFDR0GUkvJxF1oF9PVs4hMSjJwUBlwnef8WMD3ti7XHe7myUWN0zEq7QPY0qb1eIBKx4GOpvbJ5U+dD6EC4tFmQiACULYnM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Darmstadt "classics of the avant garde listening party" proudly presents: 'NøZone Trio' feat: Anthony Coleman (farfisa), Charles Cohen (Buchla Music Easel), & David Linton (electronics) with live video processing by: MOSTRA - Caspar Stracke & Gabriela Monroy With host DJ Zach Layton spinning Stockhausen, Cage, Wolff, Feldman, Ashley, Stravinsky and other surprise special guests TBA Wednesday, Feb. 23rd, 10pm, free Galapagos Arts Space Williamsburg, Brooklyn the NºZONE TRIO Vs MOSTRA Accomplished keys player and composer Anthony Coleman has gained recognition as an inspired player and talented standout of the avant-garde and klezmer-oriented jazz coming out of NYC's downtown throughout the '80s and '90s. Coleman has performed and recorded with just about every musician involved in this downtown scene, including John Zorn, guitarist Elliot Sharp, David Moss, renowned trumpeter Dave Douglas, premier accordian player Guy Klucevsek, David Shea, former Captain Beefheart band member Gary Lucas, classical and klezmer clarinetist David Krakauer, guitarist Marc Ribot and many more. Coleman has performed and recorded all over the world, with his groups Sephardic Tinge trio -- they've toured Europe three times, and released two CDs -- and Selfhaters; all of their releases are on the Tzadik label. Found on the related Avant label is Coleman's Disco by Night, a recording inspired by his experiences in ex-Yugoslavia. Through most of the '90s, Coleman and saxophonist Roy Nathanson have co-led projects, performing all over the U.S. and Europe together. The duo have also recorded several albums, including Lobster and Friend. Coleman has received commissions for his compositions from various ensembles including Bang On a Can, Concert Artists Guild, and The Crosstown Ensemble. His compositions can also be heard on harpist Carol Emanuel's Koch release, Tops of Trees, and Guy Klucevsek's accordian extravaganza, Manhattan Cascade, among others. ~ (Joslyn Layne, All Music Guide) The "NºZone Trio" lineup provides a context where Anthony gets to do something he'd rarely do anywhere else - namely: play his vintage 'Farfisa Compact' 1960's combo electric organ through a Moogfooger in an entirely electronic setting. CHARLES COHEN - Buchla Music Easle Based in the Philadelphia area, Charles Cohen has been amazing and challenging audiences for over 20 years. His music is entirely improvisational and produced solely on a vintage Buchla Music Easle analog synthesizer. An avid collaborator, Cohen is best known to NYC listeners from his many inspired improvisational sets with the cream of the crop of NYC electronic and acoustic musicians as well as stunning solos in many multimedia contexts. His sound ranges from challengingly abstract tonescapes to pleasantly rhythmic and infectious percolations. With few commercially recorded works available, Cohen prefers to concentrate on creating realtime Electronic Music in the setting of the live performance space. In his own words: "Atmosphere, landscape, and travel are what my sounds are about. Collaboration and exploration are what my process is about. The simple intent is sharing my favorite pastime with others." DAVID LINTON - Assorted Electronics (analog processed 'circuit bent' digital drumboxes +... ) David Linton has witnessed the sun's rise and fall on nearly 4 decades worth of american subcultural music practice. For the past 2 1/2 of these decades he has lived and worked in NYC - first hitting his stride as a 'downtown' drummer in the early 1980's. (See early recordings: Rhys Chatham, Glenn Branca, among others soon to see the light of day). From the drums he moved to solo performing, live electronics, and computer assisted composition and sound design for dance and theater - etc... (more than a dozen scores for choreographer Stephen Petronio - and a couple of noteworthy works for the Wooster Group- among many others) His mid 80¹s solo release "Orchesography" (Neutral 14) represents downtown sensibility at the crossroads of post punk, primal noise, early sampling technique, and theatrical post modernism. By the early '90's an experimental foray into venue building ( as 'in house' producer at the 'hausofouch' loft in Chinatown) led to transformative zeitgeist events (Ouch, Sensate, SoundLab, & Step Forward) and a burgeoning absorption in the multimedia design parameters associated with the 'immersive' movement. By the late '90's a perfect balance between audio and visual elements in the live electronic performance environment was sought with the launch of the Unit¥Gain platform and integrated modus operandi. From here it was a curious but natural progression to the community media architectured explorations of Unitygain Television (1AM Sunday mornings on MNN CH 34/mnn.org still running). At present, in his own music, Linton seeks to build a (con)temporary structure (as in: Œshelter¹ to house the diverse creative offspring of his endeavors 'under one roof'. He will present his first solo audiovisual work: "Stroboscopy: Bicameral Research: GODBOX 101" in the Roulette Mixology Festival at Location One this spring. David is the instigator of this grouping... MOSTRA is a duo of video artists Gabriela Monroy + Caspar Stracke who also work with interactive video installation and single channel video. Their video work has been shown in the US, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, France and UK. MOSTRA conglomerates and transforms images according to single themes, mostly sociological and architectural motives. Harvesting the net as their primary image source, they juxtapose raw content in which images are treated like text fragments (sometimes literally, in ASCII code). wed, feb 23rd, 10pm - late (free) galapagos 70 north 6 street, williamsburg, ny, 718.384.4586 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 03:20:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34511-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:20:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10415 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:20:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 10405 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:20:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:21:44 +0100 From: Plagasul <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Petition To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Message-id: <20050222042144.1397121721.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Bloomba 1.0.5 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 (normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello. I am planning a trip for the weekend of the 4th, March, and i would like to know if there is anything interesting going on around Europe involving arts or sound, or both. After frustrating googleing i found that emailing the list members could be a fast an effective way of getting such an information. Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 00:05:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34510-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42893 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:05:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 42875 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:05:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:06:48 -0800 From: "b.phenix" <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c [ http://www.cronica.pt ] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this seems to surface from time to time dating back at least 3 years now. no one anywhere that i've seen can back it up. vinyl byproducts are used in huge volumes, records being such a small amount that it doesn't even scratch into the whole percent numbers. there is nary a mention searching within google in the larger industry, just a bunch of music newsgroup blather. b. On Feb 21, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Brian Klein wrote: is the part about the vinyl true? can you send some links to where you found this info? > Word's out that the good old vinyl industry will be > off by the year 2009, it > seems that an agreement within the chemical industry > states that the key > by-products of the current petroleum refining > process will no longer be > generated by that time, meaning: bye-bye new vinyl > records! With that in > mind, and of course the dance floors, Crónica > decided to give her special > tribute to the old industry medium and put out a > 10'' with Further > Reinterpretations by Marc Behrens, Paulo Raposo and > @c which is a > post-scriptum to Paulo Raposo/Marc Behrens 2004 > Crónica CD "Further > Consequences of Reinterpretation". > http://www.cronicaelectronica.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > UPCOMING RELEASES > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "Untitled" > In "Untitled Songs - 49 Years from 'Gesang der > Jünglinge' (2005-1956)" > 2CD SIRR > > "Verbatim" > in Essays on Radio: Can I Have Two Minutes of Your > Time? > Various Artists > CD+DVD CRONICA > > Marfa Lights > Solo CD > SIRR > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > UPCOMING PERFORMANCES > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 2005 February 25 > Paulo Raposo, Rui Costa, André Gonçalves > ZDB > Lisboa, Portugal > > 2005 April > Paulo Raposo > Artist in residence > Moks, Mooste, Estonia > > 2005 April 8/9 > Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo > Teatro Ensalle, Vigo > Vigo, Spain > > 2005 April 28 > Paulo Raposo > Festival Sonorities > Belfast, UK --> > > 2005 May 11 > Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo > Sala Nasa > Santiago de Compostela, Spain > > 2005 May 20 > Paulo Raposo with John Grzinich > Fundação de Serralves > Porto, PT --> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Thanks for your attention > Paulo Raposo > > ||||||||xxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx > |http://www.sirr-ecords.com > > ---------------------------------------- > --------------------------------- > no more news? please reply with: Remove > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Feb 21 21:33:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34509-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76286 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:33:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 76275 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:33:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c [ http://www.cronica.pt ] In-reply-to: <BE3FD4CB.1329C%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=gvrEZ2L4KHNV0aA5WkLtTGRE5jHlHsPDR11gIGoZZXUiKHLgsjuZeLEBMPV8sOgtcrqcnRtW0pryRbE2rtXhXKuCRizeyLGt6slvnmkqQTArqW0DDRNGLeqNrdlk8tHaIVV0vZODiXslBE+37ksEqzwCqUsaPujrw2O2BbOkMsI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx is the part about the vinyl true? can you send some links to where you found this info? > Word's out that the good old vinyl industry will be > off by the year 2009, it > seems that an agreement within the chemical industry > states that the key > by-products of the current petroleum refining > process will no longer be > generated by that time, meaning: bye-bye new vinyl > records! With that in > mind, and of course the dance floors, Crónica > decided to give her special > tribute to the old industry medium and put out a > 10'' with Further > Reinterpretations by Marc Behrens, Paulo Raposo and > @c which is a > post-scriptum to Paulo Raposo/Marc Behrens 2004 > Crónica CD "Further > Consequences of Reinterpretation". > http://www.cronicaelectronica.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > UPCOMING RELEASES > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "Untitled" > In "Untitled Songs - 49 Years from 'Gesang der > Jünglinge' (2005-1956)" > 2CD SIRR > > "Verbatim" > in Essays on Radio: Can I Have Two Minutes of Your > Time? > Various Artists > CD+DVD CRONICA > > Marfa Lights > Solo CD > SIRR > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > UPCOMING PERFORMANCES > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 2005 February 25 > Paulo Raposo, Rui Costa, André Gonçalves > ZDB > Lisboa, Portugal > > 2005 April > Paulo Raposo > Artist in residence > Moks, Mooste, Estonia > > 2005 April 8/9 > Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo > Teatro Ensalle, Vigo > Vigo, Spain > > 2005 April 28 > Paulo Raposo > Festival Sonorities > Belfast, UK --> > > 2005 May 11 > Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo > Sala Nasa > Santiago de Compostela, Spain > > 2005 May 20 > Paulo Raposo with John Grzinich > Fundação de Serralves > Porto, PT --> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Thanks for your attention > Paulo Raposo > > ||||||||xxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx > |http://www.sirr-ecords.com > > ---------------------------------------- > --------------------------------- > no more news? please reply with: Remove > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE TO FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN HELP KEEP RESONANCE ON THE AIR: HTTP://WWW.RESONANCEFM.COM. THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley this was our first edition of framework:focus for 2005, and was curated and produced by uk sound artist dallas simpson. entitled peggy's paradise, it featured a sound walk/environmental diary recorded by dallas' mother on a fall day in 1988. dallas himself describes his mother's recordings, which began in the 70's as letters to her son, thusly: 'Mum's work is about emotive description, rather than any kind of objective accuracy. It is the sheer simplistic joy of the moment by moment experience that is communicated.' for more information on dallas' work, and on peggy's paradise, you can visit his website at http://www.waterpump.f9.co.uk/. if you missed this edition of framework:focus, or would like to hear it again, it will be repeated this wednesday, the 23rd of february, at 11:00am gmt. our next live broadcast will be this coming friday, the 25th of february, at 8:30pm gmt. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_sGCFQH/t1gZ/a0WxWZHO+w)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 19:25:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34507-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25543 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:25:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 25533 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:25:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:26:51 -0700 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New CommTom Release To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/LFBCazRh2pGvCbS4ufxXQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_/LFBCazRh2pGvCbS4ufxXQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, New audio/video material from David Fodel: david fodel (aka devslashnull ) had a rare chance to play outside of the denver area on a recent trip to Berlin, (feb2-9th, 2005). this material represents some of the work being done by Fodel in the area of "live cimnemonics" (read: cinema and mnemonics), a process linking audio, with literal and abstract visual elements using narrative structures in addition to commonly used formal relationships. "shovel" is part of an upcoming DVD release entitled "wet wood drying" which pays homage to simplicity, and the poetic experience of the mundane. the piece was performed live in the Salon of Transmediale 05 in Berlin at the Haus der Kulteren der Welt. http://www.commtom.com/releases/devslashnull/berlin_shovel.html large file (around 50 mb.) CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_/LFBCazRh2pGvCbS4ufxXQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 18:58:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34506-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18747 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:58:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 18737 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:58:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:58:21 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 21 Feb 2005 17:11:32 -0000 Issue 1357 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_D/vhhbgpqA/iHCYqgFNobQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_D/vhhbgpqA/iHCYqgFNobQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2005 11:11:58 AM Central Standard Time, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: Before you get too carried away, do not forget that those "cheap" electronics are cheap largely because of the continued subjugation of the truly poor who comprise such a huge part of our manufacturing base today (and who do not own computers). And if they didn't have the income coming from working for the "oppressive Western industrail base" just what do you think they'd be doing? Probabaly starving to death is my guess. You have to start somewhere if you're going to join the rest of the world and begin the climb to developed status. Maybe they should get rid of their socialist dictators first instead of blaming America for all their troubles. We had to throw off the European yoke at the beginning of our own development. John --Boundary_(ID_D/vhhbgpqA/iHCYqgFNobQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 18:14:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34505-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 237 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:14:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 227 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:14:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:11:23 +0000 From: paulo raposo || sirr <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c [ http://www.cronica.pt ] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE3FD4CB.1329C%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, new release at http://www.cronicaelectronica.org Also available (as all cronica releases) at http://www.sirr-ecords.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Behrens / Paulo Raposo / @c Product Crónica 017~2004 4 tracks 10" vinyl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A1: Marc Behrens: I was Never A2: Marc Behrens: A Disco Boy A3: Paulo Raposo: Bunny and Clyde Take the Desert Ride B1: @c: 36 Word's out that the good old vinyl industry will be off by the year 2009, it seems that an agreement within the chemical industry states that the key by-products of the current petroleum refining process will no longer be generated by that time, meaning: bye-bye new vinyl records! With that in mind, and of course the dance floors, Crónica decided to give her special tribute to the old industry medium and put out a 10'' with Further Reinterpretations by Marc Behrens, Paulo Raposo and @c which is a post-scriptum to Paulo Raposo/Marc Behrens 2004 Crónica CD "Further Consequences of Reinterpretation". http://www.cronicaelectronica.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UPCOMING RELEASES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Untitled" In "Untitled Songs - 49 Years from 'Gesang der Jünglinge' (2005-1956)" 2CD SIRR "Verbatim" in Essays on Radio: Can I Have Two Minutes of Your Time? Various Artists CD+DVD CRONICA Marfa Lights Solo CD SIRR ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UPCOMING PERFORMANCES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2005 February 25 Paulo Raposo, Rui Costa, André Gonçalves ZDB Lisboa, Portugal 2005 April Paulo Raposo Artist in residence Moks, Mooste, Estonia 2005 April 8/9 Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo Teatro Ensalle, Vigo Vigo, Spain 2005 April 28 Paulo Raposo Festival Sonorities Belfast, UK --> 2005 May 11 Pablo Coello / Paulo Raposo Sala Nasa Santiago de Compostela, Spain 2005 May 20 Paulo Raposo with John Grzinich Fundação de Serralves Porto, PT --> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for your attention Paulo Raposo ||||||||xxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx |http://www.sirr-ecords.com ---------------------------------------- --------------------------------- no more news? please reply with: Remove --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 17:36:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34504-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86360 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:36:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 86350 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:36:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:37:29 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx First, I buy almost all of these cheap electronics USED. They are cheap because they are obsolete. They may not have been cheap originally. And people are exploited somewhere for almost every new item we buy here in the USA. Anyway, new musical instruments aren't actually cheap at all here, at least typical gear might cost an entire month of my wages. Second, the developed world - and here I can only speak from experience of the United States - has quite a few of those truly destitute people. I see so many homeless people everyday here in Chicago, it's quite sad really. And if you go into the worse off urban areas things are really bad. Average working people are still exploited in the United States, regardless of a somewhat better lifestyle, and wages have generally been decreasing over the last few years. Meanwhile, prisons are growing larger and larger and entire communities are devestated by drug laws which systematically remove "delinquent" parts of the population. Most workers here hardly have lifestyles that are "opulent." Many people are one paycheck from being homeless and broke. Depending on where one lives, one may have more income but it all goes towards higher rent. Better off than workers in underdeveloped countries, sure, but hardly a new aristocracy. Finally, a greater purchasing power vis-a-vis other workers does not translate into political power and autonomy - characteristics which one would expect to in an aristocracy. Third, yes, exploitation of labor in underdeveloped countries is a serious global political issue. But I think this focus on consumption is problematic. There are many conscious people that try to make reasonable purchases for only things they really need and do not live the hyper-consumer lifestyle that is promoted on television. I suggest that a politics of guilt is in appropriate in this issue. In this case, the focus needs to be on what can be done to better the working conditions and increase the bargaining power of the workers in underdeveloped countries. In this area it is still the struggle between workers and global capital that is most important. Reducing the position or income of, say, American workers isn't going to bring any advantage to other workers in underdeveloped countries. Can I go back to button-pushing music now, PLEASE?! ;) As soon as I get off work, I'm going to play my lovely DX-21 with three broken keys (luckily only at the extreme registers) thought I bought for $100. ~David David Powers Secretary DePaul University, School of Education Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services 773-325-4806 >>> xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx 02/20/05 05:33PM >>> Before you get too carried away, do not forget that those "cheap" electronics are cheap largely because of the continued subjugation of the truly poor who comprise such a huge part of our manufacturing base today (and who do not own computers). We in the developed (overdeveloped?) world are all, with the exception of a few truly destitute, the elite, privileged, aristocratic few, and the opulence of our lifestyle rivals that of noblemen throughout history. The separation of rich and poor has not changed, it has merely been globalized. At least, that has been my growing impression lately. Galen > So if I can create music through the use of buttons and sliders, > computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything that is readily > available and affordable to the working person, that's an incredible > opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a piano, so the > availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also an amazing asset. I > don't understand why some people want music to be an elite activity > only > available to a privileged few. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 17:26:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34503-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82495 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 82485 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:26:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:26:38 +0100 From: herv=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= boghossian <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] G.Muller & Steinbruchel "perspectives" OUT NOW ! and more .... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE3FD85D.8C93%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi all, LIST is proud to announce the release of Gunter Muller & Steinbruchel "perspectives" (L6) cd . more info on List website http://www.list-en.com ( including mp3 extracts) . >the cd is available through LIST paypal shop http://www.list-en.com : account : xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx write "perspectives" on your mail, the price is 14 euros shipping offered for every countries ! and List Events this week : 24.02.05 Kunstraum Walcheturm > Zurich (ch) "Perspectives" cd release concert : :: live : Gunter Muller & Steinbruchel + Herve Boghossian http://www.walcheturm.ch 25.02.05 Bad Bonn > Dudingen (ch) :: live : Herve Boghossian http://www.badbonn.ch thanks for your attention all the best rv --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 21 16:08:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34502-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46382 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:08:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 46371 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:08:07 +0000 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:08:06 -0500 From: "xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion cont. X-Originating-IP: 216.8.171.235 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2005 16:08:05.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[86F219F0:01C5182F] A lot of good questions in derek's post. Nice too how it cuts through some of the resistence to a deeper rather than broader discussion. I'd like to center on one of the questions that might 'resonate' the most with folks on this list - that is this one: > -If artifacts are always in flux, when is an historical work determined to be "finished"? I find that Lev Manovich's writings on digital media are sometimes a bit too polemical but I think there is great value in how he writes about this subject. The nature of digital media is that it is never fixed and thus never finished. We have all likely named files or projects and then appended new dates to the file names to indicate that they has been revisited or "improved" upon. Or we have swapped files with one another and then, at some point, lost the impressions of the original strands and cannot determine where each artist's imprints really are. It is sometimes exciting to be able to rework an object over a long period of time - but with that constant state of flux we sometimes lose what, in the times of high modernism, must have been, on occasion, the nice sense of satisfaction over "finishing something" - to be able to say "voila" it is done. I would argue that these new works of "digital art" are rarely, if ever, finished. Chris McNamara thinkbox Original Message: ----------------- From: derek holzer xxxxx@x-x.xxx Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:11:56 +0100 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion cont. Dear microsounders, in the hopes we can "elevate" the banter around here beyond one-liners and such: Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >>it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... > > -But does it matter? I'd like to post the point that the Tate discussion leaves off [right now anyway], as I think that Lina Dzuverovic and Kenneth Goldsmith pose some interesting questions about different models of online collaboration, participation and distribution. Some of this dovetails quite nicely into previous threads here concerning CD vs CDR vs MP3 at the very least.... at http://tinyurl.com/6ub6e, Lina Dzuverovic wrote: > nude media > > It is interesting how the collaboration/participation discussion initially shot off into two different directions (online vs offline collaborative models) only to come back to what are essentially different appropriation methods and individual choices of crediting/presentation. > > Going back to Doug and John's posts, to me 'nude media' (a great term, Kenneth, btw) is one way of talking about a history of appropriation whether it is offline or online. As John just illustrated - it is a question of choice, not medium. > > That MP3 file 'stripped of its external signifiers' is essentially no different then a photocopied page separated from the author/title info. Are we not just replacing a pair of scissors (Gysin) with sound processing software? Perhaps the the main difference is in the speed with which the 'nude media' file makes it's way back into the remixing and sampling pool and how long it stays there for (and if it ever becomes used up/ finished)? > > And on that note, I thought Kenneth's asked some really interesting questions a few posts back, which we all seem to have skipped and I'd like to return to those: > > > -How does having a variety of contexts influence the cultural reception of such objects? > > -Who or what determines an avant-garde artifact's value, both commercially and intellectually? > > -How does this in turn impact the artist's reputation, both commercially and intellectually? > > -If artifacts are always in flux, when is an historical work determined to be "finished"? happy discourse, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 20 23:33:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34501-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2727 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:33:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 2716 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:33:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:33:38 -0800 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound Digest 19 Feb 2005 17:10:31 -0000 Issue 1356 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HPMW3bRAS8QKI55n+u9tQw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_HPMW3bRAS8QKI55n+u9tQw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before you get too carried away, do not forget that those "cheap" electronics are cheap largely because of the continued subjugation of the truly poor who comprise such a huge part of our manufacturing base today (and who do not own computers). We in the developed (overdeveloped?) world are all, with the exception of a few truly destitute, the elite, privileged, aristocratic few, and the opulence of our lifestyle rivals that of noblemen throughout history. The separation of rich and poor has not changed, it has merely been globalized. At least, that has been my growing impression lately. Galen > So if I can create music through the use of buttons and sliders, > computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything that is readily > available and affordable to the working person, that's an incredible > opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a piano, so the > availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also an amazing asset. I > don't understand why some people want music to be an elite activity > only > available to a privileged few. > --Boundary_(ID_HPMW3bRAS8QKI55n+u9tQw)-- From ???@??? Sun Feb 20 22:26:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34500-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83876 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:26:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 83866 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:26:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:26:42 +0100 From: klif <x.x.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HR7S4iGMJ/2fwQxZMSx8ZXiH06BwTOGF4/mStabbTb2X03Prr1jhOHCIzYBcHgt7uCf8nEP5iii8UmOoEQfXvuFGaUkdgk08bFXIXRJwOWlyqrnvEfqskEt+dgiB1ISZhVPCR7G4i3DILGR3305p1Chh2m5adNAMGEdu9U72rJ4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 17, 2005, at 6:07 PM, David Powers wrote: > The history of violin playing, the virtuosity that must be attained, is > precisely what makes it an esoteric and aristocratic discipline, > something inacessible to most of us. there are many virtuoso gipsy violin players. for shure they are not aristocrats. > I love violin playing, but in a > hierarchical society founded on wage labor and dead end jobs, it's not > an option for most people, and to hold it up as a musical ideal is > tantamount to declare that music is an activity that should only be > accessible to the privileged few. > my close relative plays first violin in berlin philharmony. he grew in zagreb, went to local music school, and moved to germay at the age of 20. his parents are not rich. they did put as much as they could in his education, but for the most part it was his will and talent. klif --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 20 06:21:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34499-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78666 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:21:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 78655 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:21:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] natural's not in it In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=i9Gp591zDDL/vsZQ4pEgMmk0tnKJcEnYfWh3ATv6djEeW+o67hknE9hKR3oE/teoaPtJtnQ6BdSh1gsbJBadCjm/mqMTLSS7F5jScvpLjXbvZIkjx54DGSdjHS83kbpKWVrelYvEy6tnkBhFXj6mqiksK65/z3nq4GezTrGLxDQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does it really matter whether music/sound art is developed thru a traditional analog instrument or something else?!! why is this discussion happening now? tho, yeah the great analog instruments are beauties no doubt! It would be nice if some one would make a mouse that was mahogony! ;) this is a very new instrument -- this laptop-able 'instrument' -- and it is pretty incredible, as it is!! Let's see how it goes. there is much ahead. Probably hundreds of years... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 20 05:23:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34498-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63347 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:23:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 63315 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:23:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:22:58 -0500 From: jbible <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new releases @ experimedia.net To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx-xxx@xxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: jbible <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YrN5VkTiIjs4TLoOMlSLprgNaGIGcZOs8BkuaQPApJrpWHFMu4cD2O/95GnWp2RcjRz0KyD+N0dZ687bikYxv6DQAaGdCmwWtHFm1KURQeSmYwmTFI/S7peqDefly+6k5Yp9UE1WcIKGKhzu2uXPLanxN8wn/+o2MHIbbQkMSP0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx download > listen New albums by : Plantre Milieu Silo Romano Helen Keller New mixset by : Dan Mcleod And of course all our past releases and mixsets. 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Sat Feb 19 08:24:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34497-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22701 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:24:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 22690 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:24:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:24:27 +1100 From: xxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] ot use your spare processing power to figure out what we are... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-ISP: TPG Internet Australia http://www.tpg.com.au/ X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06002000be3ac384d775@[209.86.96.95]> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx .... or the only ones with idle processors .... Kwak Quoting John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: > > On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:42 PM, xxxx@xxxxx.xxx wrote: > > > i am bored. so heres my contribution to for the day that i think > > everyone should have, especially all of you on this list who must > > have access to a pc, > > get on this project use your spare thinking time when you've tranced > > out for too many hours to do something useful to contribute to > > humanity by running this here screensaver, > > [well if you are not already looking for green men with SETI....] > > http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4270241.stm > > Apparently only Windows users are worthy of saving the planet. > > They should have their stock photography CDs taken away as well... > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 19 05:59:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34496-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90130 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:59:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 90119 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:59:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:58:58 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ot use your spare processing power to figure out what we are... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06002000be3ac384d775@[209.86.96.95]> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:42 PM, xxxx@xxxxx.xxx wrote: > i am bored. so heres my contribution to for the day that i think > everyone should have, especially all of you on this list who must > have access to a pc, > get on this project use your spare thinking time when you've tranced > out for too many hours to do something useful to contribute to > humanity by running this here screensaver, > [well if you are not already looking for green men with SETI....] > http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4270241.stm Apparently only Windows users are worthy of saving the planet. They should have their stock photography CDs taken away as well... - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 21:42:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34495-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92485 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:42:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 92450 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:42:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:42:13 +0800 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] ot use your spare processing power to figure out what we are... In-reply-to: <p06002000be3ac384d775@[209.86.96.95]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06002000be3ac384d775@[209.86.96.95]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i am bored. so heres my contribution to for the day that i think everyone should have, especially all of you on this list who must have access to a pc, get on this project use your spare thinking time when you've tranced out for too many hours to do something useful to contribute to humanity by running this here screensaver, [well if you are not already looking for green men with SETI....] http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4270241.stm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 21:03:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34494-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72805 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:56:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 72793 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:56:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:52:11 +0100 From: Claudio Parodi <xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Guido Huebner/Claudio Parodi To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003601c515fc$8b5b8560$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3CPT5q/SOC/DRpltEG4Hfg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_3CPT5q/SOC/DRpltEG4Hfg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody I am looking for gigs in south France/Liguria (Italia) for the electroacoustic improvisation duo Guido Huebner/Claudio Parodi. The duo is available from the 21st to the 27th of March. If you are interested, please contact me offlist. Thank you in advance. Best. Claudio Parodi xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx --Boundary_(ID_3CPT5q/SOC/DRpltEG4Hfg)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 20:47:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34493-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68970 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:47:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 68960 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:47:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:46:17 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009101c515fb$05baccf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx additions to list below on the more underground side of things check out any jeweled antler shows, thuja, blithe sons, etc. or tom carter, yellow swans, axolotl, gino robair, daniel popsicle, etc or the more academic side, mills college has great shows, for instance, james tenney is performing tonight (cage's sonatas and interludes for prepared piano) and his own pieces tomorrow night. enjoy r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan So" <xxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco > Robert: > Check out http://transbaycalendar.org/ and http://www.bayimproviser.com > for news, calendar and artists in the experimental music scene. Some > great spaces showcasing experimental scene include the Luggage Store > Gallery http://www.luggagestoregallery.org/, 21 Grand > http://www.21grand.org and 964 Natoma. Not sure what is happening when > you are here but some festivals include 23five's Activating the Medium > http://www.23five.org, Other Minds Festival http://www.otherminds.org, > and SFEMF http://www.sfemf.org > > I am also planning the 2nd season of the Soundwave>Series: Exploring > sound, language, noise and music but unfortunately would not be until > probably summer or fall. Check out http://www.me-di-ate.net and > http://www.projectsoundwave.com. > > Hope you have a great time. > > > Alan So_Directeur > ME'D1.ATE NETWORK | www.me-di-ate.net > > (((Project>Soundwave))) | www.projecsoundwave.com > (((The.ME.Project))) | www.MEproject.com > > > > On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:52 AM, robert van heumen wrote: > >> unfortunately not. >> maybe next time. how's the atmosphere there for experimental >> electronic music? >> >> >> >> >> >> ---+-----+--+-+--+-++---+-+++--+---+++--- >> robert van heumen >> managing director STEIM >> http://www.steim.nl ++--- >> electric sound hardhatarea >> http://hardhatarea.com --+- >> http://humanelectric.net +-- >> ---+-----+--+-+--+-++++---+-+--+---+-+-+- >> >> On Feb 18, 2005, at 19:13, Richard Zvonar wrote: >> >>> At 2:33 PM +0100 2/18/05, robert van heumen wrote: >>> >>>> i'm going to visit the san francisco area from april 8 through april >>>> 14, together with my collegues from steim, michel waisvisz and joel >>>> ryan. >>> >>> >>> Will you also visit southern California? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Richard Zvonar, PhD >>> (818) 788-2202 >>> http://www.zvonar.com >>> http://salamandersongs.com >>> http://ill-wind.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 19:36:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34492-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12192 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:36:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 12178 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:36:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:31:21 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0620070bbe3bee04536d@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 7:52 PM +0100 2/18/05, robert van heumen wrote: >unfortunately not. >maybe next time. how's the atmosphere there for experimental electronic music? Excellent. In addition to several schools (UC Santa Barbara, CalArts, UC Irvine, UC San Diego, etc.) there are many independent arts groups doing performances, workshops, and other public programs. I work with the LA chapter of American Composers Forum and have to date produced 17 programs ranging from workshops (Max/MSP/Jitter, recording, laptop performance, etc.) to technology salons (digital looping, interactive video, surround sound, microtonal instruments, etc.) to composer seminiars (Trevor Wishart, Gavin Bryars, Fred Frith, et al.). I always look for opportunities to present visiting artists and technologists. I don't have a large budget but am generally able to provide an honorarium. It would be wonderful to present work from STEIM. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 19:14:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34491-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 654 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:14:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 636 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:14:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:20 -0800 From: Alan So <xxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kOEqHi4IlCkrJwK8GKy+tg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kOEqHi4IlCkrJwK8GKy+tg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert: Check out http://transbaycalendar.org/ and http://www.bayimproviser.com for news, calendar and artists in the experimental music scene. Some great spaces showcasing experimental scene include the Luggage Store Gallery http://www.luggagestoregallery.org/, 21 Grand http://www.21grand.org and 964 Natoma. Not sure what is happening when you are here but some festivals include 23five's Activating the Medium http://www.23five.org, Other Minds Festival http://www.otherminds.org, and SFEMF http://www.sfemf.org I am also planning the 2nd season of the Soundwave>Series: Exploring sound, language, noise and music but unfortunately would not be until probably summer or fall. Check out http://www.me-di-ate.net and http://www.projectsoundwave.com. Hope you have a great time. Alan So_Directeur ME'D1.ATE NETWORK | www.me-di-ate.net (((Project>Soundwave))) | www.projecsoundwave.com (((The.ME.Project))) | www.MEproject.com On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:52 AM, robert van heumen wrote: > unfortunately not. > maybe next time. how's the atmosphere there for experimental > electronic music? > > > > > > ---+-----+--+-+--+-++---+-+++--+---+++--- > robert van heumen > managing director STEIM > http://www.steim.nl ++--- > electric sound hardhatarea > http://hardhatarea.com --+- > http://humanelectric.net +-- > ---+-----+--+-+--+-++++---+-+--+---+-+-+- > > On Feb 18, 2005, at 19:13, Richard Zvonar wrote: > >> At 2:33 PM +0100 2/18/05, robert van heumen wrote: >> >>> i'm going to visit the san francisco area from april 8 through april >>> 14, together with my collegues from steim, michel waisvisz and joel >>> ryan. >> >> >> Will you also visit southern California? >> >> -- >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Richard Zvonar, PhD >> (818) 788-2202 >> http://www.zvonar.com >> http://salamandersongs.com >> http://ill-wind.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_kOEqHi4IlCkrJwK8GKy+tg)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 18:53:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34490-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84364 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:52:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 84337 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:52:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:52:52 +0100 From: robert van heumen <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco In-reply-to: <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx unfortunately not. maybe next time. how's the atmosphere there for experimental electronic music? ---+-----+--+-+--+-++---+-+++--+---+++--- robert van heumen managing director STEIM http://www.steim.nl ++--- electric sound hardhatarea http://hardhatarea.com --+- http://humanelectric.net +-- ---+-----+--+-+--+-++++---+-+--+---+-+-+- On Feb 18, 2005, at 19:13, Richard Zvonar wrote: > At 2:33 PM +0100 2/18/05, robert van heumen wrote: > >> i'm going to visit the san francisco area from april 8 through april >> 14, together with my collegues from steim, michel waisvisz and joel >> ryan. > > > Will you also visit southern California? > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 18:16:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34489-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:16:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:16:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65475 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:16:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 65464 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:16:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:13:21 -0800 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] visiting san francisco In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200708be3be0a330a4@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 2:33 PM +0100 2/18/05, robert van heumen wrote: >i'm going to visit the san francisco area from april 8 through april >14, together with my collegues from steim, michel waisvisz and joel >ryan. Will you also visit southern California? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 18:06:54 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34488-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60240 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:06:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 60230 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:06:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:11:56 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion cont. In-reply-to: <l03130301be3bd7447372@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130301be3bd7447372@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear microsounders, in the hopes we can "elevate" the banter around here beyond one-liners and such: Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >>it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... > > -But does it matter? I'd like to post the point that the Tate discussion leaves off [right now anyway], as I think that Lina Dzuverovic and Kenneth Goldsmith pose some interesting questions about different models of online collaboration, participation and distribution. Some of this dovetails quite nicely into previous threads here concerning CD vs CDR vs MP3 at the very least.... at http://tinyurl.com/6ub6e, Lina Dzuverovic wrote: > nude media > > It is interesting how the collaboration/participation discussion initially shot off into two different directions (online vs offline collaborative models) only to come back to what are essentially different appropriation methods and individual choices of crediting/presentation. > > Going back to Doug and John's posts, to me 'nude media' (a great term, Kenneth, btw) is one way of talking about a history of appropriation whether it is offline or online. As John just illustrated - it is a question of choice, not medium. > > That MP3 file 'stripped of its external signifiers' is essentially no different then a photocopied page separated from the author/title info. Are we not just replacing a pair of scissors (Gysin) with sound processing software? Perhaps the the main difference is in the speed with which the 'nude media' file makes it's way back into the remixing and sampling pool and how long it stays there for (and if it ever becomes used up/finished)? > > And on that note, I thought Kenneth's asked some really interesting questions a few posts back, which we all seem to have skipped and I'd like to return to those: > > > -How does having a variety of contexts influence the cultural reception of such objects? > > -Who or what determines an avant-garde artifact's value, both commercially and intellectually? > > -How does this in turn impact the artist's reputation, both commercially and intellectually? > > -If artifacts are always in flux, when is an historical work determined to be "finished"? happy discourse, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:58:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34485-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55281 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:58:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 55260 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:58:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:03:56 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx COSTELLOE Richard wrote: > ah, actually, I think he's getting to the real site but > it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... something about > politics and sound... who knows?! : ) ummmm.... in that case, the IDM-list is over _that_ way... Maybe summer will be better for serious discussion on this list, when all the anti-intellectuals are at the beach playing football or something ;-) d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 18:00:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34487-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57353 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:00:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 57342 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:00:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:00:09 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=sQJZGAV+8i1YzuJsW1o1hFPnul5+RLOouYGJKkEyV9QBOMYCQEP7hTlJIUPU1fkYUDBwdK4rII6qwcbvnFrzcVhMzuwBLqv++11V9ds/NfO87krDjjJ31DjBQAPzgdGVilTTf623boaQlh5SxnMmBEXKs6rkiaARlw06v98Z5ZY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx gentlemen, skip it . there will be more links. fo shizzle. snoop --- derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> wrote: > COSTELLOE Richard wrote: > > ah, actually, I think he's getting to the real > site but > > it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... > something about > > politics and sound... who knows?! : ) > > ummmm.... in that case, the IDM-list is over _that_ > way... Maybe summer > will be better for serious discussion on this list, > when all the > anti-intellectuals are at the beach playing football > or something ;-) > > d. > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:59:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34486-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55678 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:58:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 55628 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:58:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:58:52 -0600 From: Charlie <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Also visiting SF To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-IPAddress: 64.207.53.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, I will be in SanFran for the Autechre show may17-20th or so. Just wondering if the locals could turn me onto any events, exhibits, record shops and vegan cuisine. We're probably going to be staying in Union Square. Thanks, ~Charlie -- Amitabha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:33:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34484-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44461 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:33:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 44450 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:33:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:33:44 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301be3bd7447372@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... -But does it matter? 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Fri Feb 18 17:30:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34483-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42225 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:30:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 42214 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:30:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:30:22 +0100 From: COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. Thread-index: AcUV3nVoJG5N9x/UQVyYdRu656FmmAAADwUA Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2005 17:30:22.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[86533EE0:01C515DF] ah, actually, I think he's getting to the real site but it's all high-concept gobledegook speak... something about politics and sound... who knows?! : ) -----Original Message----- From: derek holzer [mailto:xxxxx@x-x.xxx] Sent: 18 February 2005 17:28 To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. Can I suggest, espc to "repeat offenders" like Kim and Tobias ;-), using "tinyurl.com" to shorten these links to managable lengths? Here's the tinyurl for the Tate site: http://tinyurl.com/6ub6e If you are still having trouble seeing it, it's definitly a browser issue, and you should complain directly to the Tate's web dept for making something that doesn't meet the normal W3 standard. derek tkrakowiak wrote: > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t hread=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:51:07 -0800 (PST), guiver ben > <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> nope i get the same shit. maybe someone could sya what >> the page is about then i can jsut search it on the >> tate site..... >> >> >> --- COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >> >>> make sure you have the full link in the address bar >>> >>> >> http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> >>> hrea d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >>> >>> not just the first line >>> >>> - R >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: guiver ben [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >>> Sent: 18 February 2005 15:39 >>> To: microsound >>> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, >>> Kahn et al. >>> >>> er i dont understand i got the page but it was a >>> load >>> of gobledegook. any tips..... >>> >>> >>> >>> --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >> http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> >>> hrea >>> > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >>> > >>> > Dig it. >>> > >>> > tV -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:22:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34482-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35245 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:22:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 35232 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:22:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:27:30 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Can I suggest, espc to "repeat offenders" like Kim and Tobias ;-), using "tinyurl.com" to shorten these links to managable lengths? Here's the tinyurl for the Tate site: http://tinyurl.com/6ub6e If you are still having trouble seeing it, it's definitly a browser issue, and you should complain directly to the Tate's web dept for making something that doesn't meet the normal W3 standard. derek tkrakowiak wrote: > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&thread=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:51:07 -0800 (PST), guiver ben > <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> nope i get the same shit. maybe someone could sya what >> the page is about then i can jsut search it on the >> tate site..... >> >> >> --- COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >> >>> make sure you have the full link in the address bar >>> >>> >> http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> >>> hrea d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >>> >>> not just the first line >>> >>> - R >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: guiver ben [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >>> Sent: 18 February 2005 15:39 >>> To: microsound >>> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, >>> Kahn et al. >>> >>> er i dont understand i got the page but it was a >>> load >>> of gobledegook. any tips..... >>> >>> >>> >>> --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >> http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> >>> hrea >>> > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >>> > >>> > Dig it. >>> > >>> > tV -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:17:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34481-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32327 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:17:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 32317 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:17:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:17:08 -0500 From: Jim Lee <xxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DNSa1GkJereSjJZg97gvtg)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_DNSa1GkJereSjJZg97gvtg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit try this link http://tinyurl.com/6ub6e guiver ben wrote: >nope i get the same shit. maybe someone could sya what >the page is about then i can jsut search it on the >tate site..... > > -- Jim Lee - Bamboo Turtle Studio Forensic Audio, Group Facilitation, Sound Art, Sculpture, Photography, and Lighting Design. http://www.bambooturtle.us/ 919 682 5853 Co-Curator: upstART Gallery http://www.upstartgallery.com --Boundary_(ID_DNSa1GkJereSjJZg97gvtg)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 17:09:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34480-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27869 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:09:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 27858 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:09:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:14:42 -0500 From: tkrakowiak <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2(BETA1)/8.00 (FreeBSD, build 913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&thread=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:51:07 -0800 (PST), guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > nope i get the same shit. maybe someone could sya what > the page is about then i can jsut search it on the > tate site..... > > > --- COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > >> make sure you have the full link in the address bar >> >> > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> hrea d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >> >> not just the first line >> >> - R >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: guiver ben [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >> Sent: 18 February 2005 15:39 >> To: microsound >> Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, >> Kahn et al. >> >> er i dont understand i got the page but it was a >> load >> of gobledegook. any tips..... >> >> >> >> --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t >> hrea >> > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 >> > >> > Dig it. >> > >> > tV >> > >> > >> > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ >> > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- >> > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- >> > McGill Communication + Philosophy >> > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? 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Fri Feb 18 16:51:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34479-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16006 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:51:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 15995 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:51:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=TW4lpQJc5ZkH3zwykIx1t/S0Bhce5P6maofUZ7hjyigvXQw6CJbjme9y5VO254D+nP6TkMsBTOM8hC/0j2/SaAWxfCjDiKyjl0UxRmUntUosclnikQbv7MCQhV05Bkg14Gi5yJoHH6jc843NKdsW/EsWEF7B5icmnM6CzlnOIHw= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nope i get the same shit. maybe someone could sya what the page is about then i can jsut search it on the tate site..... --- COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > make sure you have the full link in the address bar > > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t > hrea d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > not just the first line > > - R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: guiver ben [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] > Sent: 18 February 2005 15:39 > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, > Kahn et al. > > er i dont understand i got the page but it was a > load > of gobledegook. any tips..... > > > > --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t > hrea > > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > > > Dig it. > > > > tV > > > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > > McGill Communication + Philosophy > > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Fri Feb 18 16:09:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34478-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95729 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:09:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 95719 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:09:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:09:24 +0100 From: COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. Thread-index: AcUVz/APzFIzfBYBTNizVp48HDJ03AABCMYg Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2005 16:09:24.0432 (UTC) FILETIME=[36AA7D00:01C515D4] make sure you have the full link in the address bar http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t hrea d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 not just the first line - R -----Original Message----- From: guiver ben [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] Sent: 18 February 2005 15:39 To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] TATE dicussion: Oswald, Kahn et al. er i dont understand i got the page but it was a load of gobledegook. any tips..... --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&t hrea > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > Dig it. > > tV > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=31w3yudtWJL18g2BQgbWN2QR1YB1a54AQWFOSHKaBZZRY8QpOGpIwOfLUpq2loNsrUCDJ5yA0x3koXHlID9TjDiwf/4sS6o1p9AI4gTS9SkAOQWnC4FlaHlXJAJAxB9rmLcXet+IljUA9DsfWsWnMTdmyKPwSKGZbWf6pIePb8A= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx er i dont understand i got the page but it was a load of gobledegook. any tips..... --- "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&threa > d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 > > Dig it. > > tV > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE3B70C7.1B78D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.tate.org.uk/contact/forums/onlineevents/thread.jsp?forum=43&threa d=2471&tstart=0&trange=15 Dig it. tV tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 13:33:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34475-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34825 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:33:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 34780 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:33:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:33:18 +0100 From: robert van heumen <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] visiting san francisco In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello all. i'm going to visit the san francisco area from april 8 through april 14, together with my collegues from steim, michel waisvisz and joel ryan. we're looking for places to play, or present the steim software / hardware (LiSa, junXion, the junXion box). now i know this question comes up every now and then but with the search engine offline (skylined.org or propheticdesire.com/microsound.htm right??)..., does anyone has any recommendations? please contact me offlist. thanks in advance. greetings, robert ---+-----+--+-+--+-++---+-+++--+---+++--- robert van heumen managing director STEIM http://www.steim.nl ++--- electric sound hardhatarea http://hardhatarea.com --+- http://humanelectric.net +-- ---+-----+--+-+--+-++++---+-+--+---+-+-+- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 18 05:27:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34474-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:27:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91209 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:27:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 91199 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:27:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:27:43 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Oh snap! I humbly stand corrected. kp On Feb 17, 2005, at 9:07 AM, David Powers wrote: > The history of violin playing, the virtuosity that must be attained, is > precisely what makes it an esoteric and aristocratic discipline, > something inacessible to most of us. I love violin playing, but in a > hierarchical society founded on wage labor and dead end jobs, it's not > an option for most people, and to hold it up as a musical ideal is > tantamount to declare that music is an activity that should only be > accessible to the privileged few. > > Button pushing, on the other hand, is very relevant to the > post-industrial experience. I am a trained composer, who makes my > living as a secretary at a university. If the only possibility of > creating music was to play an instrument like a violin that takes a > lifetime to master, I would not be able to make music. Even if I rely > on others to do the playing, I'm in a similar situation - I wrote a > string quartet that has never been played, due to my lack of ability to > pay good string players to play it, or even read through it! > > So if I can create music through the use of buttons and sliders, > computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything that is readily > available and affordable to the working person, that's an incredible > opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a piano, so the > availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also an amazing asset. I > don't understand why some people want music to be an elite activity > only > available to a privileged few. > > I can make beautiful music through button pushing, it's a way of > transforming the drudge work of button pushing that I do in my office > monkey job into something totally different. In my personal artistic > philosophy, I look at art as the transformation of every day life, a > micro-revolution where the mundane undergoes a secret mutation to > become > extraordinary and potentially liberating. > > ~David > >>>> xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx 02/10/05 03:10PM >>> > Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of > > pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on > > a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, > training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a > violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging > with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply > doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this > point in time. > > - Scott Carver > > On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > >> Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw >> dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a > >> musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of > >> mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor > control >> honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with >> appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly > >> in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? >> It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm >> sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even > if >> you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a >> "dead-ended physical instrument". kp >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with >> our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to >> "pushing buttons" >> >> This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from >> Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. >> >> Frank "RtE" D'Urso >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 21:57:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34473-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24325 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:57:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 24315 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:57:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:57:39 -0600 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Kendra Juul contact? X-Originating-IP: 165.124.162.47 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002000be3ac384d775@[209.86.96.95]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd484a26b4bceb8363756299645efe61124419c9e15d1c7c699c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi everyone, Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Kendra Juul? The address I have for her just bounced. Please contact me off-list. Thanks, john -- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.johnkannenberg.com ] [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 19:52:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34472-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55886 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:52:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 55875 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:52:36 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:52:34 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=LfqrMT8GupSmuYFQ1fCrjLnHmmXbMWSfdKBG5DOiXIdk5kjzpsnS2qjQuyd2EKJl89zsZyLIXgUgL95NwEQ1/lSrrU629w/fKZouhiL9/pErjFvtVCNuPm3v+gbnxtraM9HX/rzHK5Ia1Jd1LT4VeqHg97HPSr4L+K/KwsQO9ys= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx david's right. i advocate the playing of 4'33'' on a lemur. and ya don't quit./ b. g. --- David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > The history of violin playing, the virtuosity that > must be attained, is > precisely what makes it an esoteric and aristocratic > discipline, > something inacessible to most of us. I love violin > playing, but in a > hierarchical society founded on wage labor and dead > end jobs, it's not > an option for most people, and to hold it up as a > musical ideal is > tantamount to declare that music is an activity that > should only be > accessible to the privileged few. > > Button pushing, on the other hand, is very relevant > to the > post-industrial experience. I am a trained > composer, who makes my > living as a secretary at a university. If the only > possibility of > creating music was to play an instrument like a > violin that takes a > lifetime to master, I would not be able to make > music. Even if I rely > on others to do the playing, I'm in a similar > situation - I wrote a > string quartet that has never been played, due to my > lack of ability to > pay good string players to play it, or even read > through it! > > So if I can create music through the use of buttons > and sliders, > computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything > that is readily > available and affordable to the working person, > that's an incredible > opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a > piano, so the > availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also > an amazing asset. I > don't understand why some people want music to be an > elite activity only > available to a privileged few. > > I can make beautiful music through button pushing, > it's a way of > transforming the drudge work of button pushing that > I do in my office > monkey job into something totally different. In my > personal artistic > philosophy, I look at art as the transformation of > every day life, a > micro-revolution where the mundane undergoes a > secret mutation to become > extraordinary and potentially liberating. > > ~David > > >>> xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx 02/10/05 03:10PM >>> > Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae > involved in the act of > > pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important > that virtuosity on > > a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of > technique, > training, and experimentation... when you listen to > the playing of a > violin, you're engaging with that history as much as > you're engaging > with the physical process of playing. This is > something that simply > doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, > synthesizers, etc., at this > point in time. > > - Scott Carver > > On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > > > Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're > not, that's a jaw > > dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can > consider themselves a > > > musician or even a lover of music without being > awed at a display of > > > mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of > minute motor > control > > honed over decades, synapses working in perfect > harmony with > > appendages, the mind performing astronomical > calculations on the fly > > > in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut > sound beautiful? > > It's one of the greatest heights to which a human > can aspire. I'm > > sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to > twiddle knobs (even > if > > you built the box and wrote the software) that it > does to master a > > "dead-ended physical instrument". kp > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into > this argument with > > our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus > air organ to > > "pushing buttons" > > > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of > Roman the Edge from > > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. 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Thu Feb 17 17:05:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34471-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71050 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:05:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 71007 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:05:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:07:20 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The history of violin playing, the virtuosity that must be attained, is precisely what makes it an esoteric and aristocratic discipline, something inacessible to most of us. I love violin playing, but in a hierarchical society founded on wage labor and dead end jobs, it's not an option for most people, and to hold it up as a musical ideal is tantamount to declare that music is an activity that should only be accessible to the privileged few. Button pushing, on the other hand, is very relevant to the post-industrial experience. I am a trained composer, who makes my living as a secretary at a university. If the only possibility of creating music was to play an instrument like a violin that takes a lifetime to master, I would not be able to make music. Even if I rely on others to do the playing, I'm in a similar situation - I wrote a string quartet that has never been played, due to my lack of ability to pay good string players to play it, or even read through it! So if I can create music through the use of buttons and sliders, computers, cheap consumer electronics, and anything that is readily available and affordable to the working person, that's an incredible opportunity! I'm a piano player but I don't own a piano, so the availability of cheap keyboard instruments is also an amazing asset. I don't understand why some people want music to be an elite activity only available to a privileged few. I can make beautiful music through button pushing, it's a way of transforming the drudge work of button pushing that I do in my office monkey job into something totally different. In my personal artistic philosophy, I look at art as the transformation of every day life, a micro-revolution where the mundane undergoes a secret mutation to become extraordinary and potentially liberating. ~David >>> xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx 02/10/05 03:10PM >>> Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this point in time. - Scott Carver On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw > dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a > musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of > mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with > appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly > in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? > It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm > sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a > "dead-ended physical instrument". kp > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with > our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to > "pushing buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 16:20:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34470-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32115 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:20:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 32105 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:20:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:22:18 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Noisejihad this weekend... To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007001c5150c$d9ce3d50$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YnSbZ0XCIDPqhorhIve96A)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_YnSbZ0XCIDPqhorhIve96A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RYFYLKE (N) DANNY KREUTZFELDT (DK) for people who enjoy jazzkammer/pita and/or pure. more info: www.noisejihad.dk tonight @ 1000Fryd, Aalborg, Denmark. sat. 19/2 @ splab, Aarhus, Denmark. coming soon: Noisejihad Net Label: recordings of the liveconcerts published for the public. First up: Mag Necro (J) + Ultimate Combat Noise (DK). Later: Massaccesi, END, Drop the Lime, Milk Muts, Kim Cascone, Caroliner... IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Next: Electrical Bonding on Desolation House >>> www.desolationhouse.com Now: Uncomfortable Positions - mp3-ep on Fukk God >>> www.fukkgod.org key to knowledge on danish noise >>> www.noisejihad.dk art >>> www.ideations.dk www.waldchengarten.dk --Boundary_(ID_YnSbZ0XCIDPqhorhIve96A)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 16:18:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34469-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28541 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:18:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 28484 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:18:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:18:21 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder - PHONIQ NETLABEL LAUNCH FEB 19 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx PHONIQ NETLABEL LAUNCH FEATURING NETLABEL ARTISTS: bleupulp - live - Quebec City (syndroma.org, pertin_nce) fm_man - live (rave.ca) insomniak - dj/live (insomniak.ca) sarcastic - dj (level4productions.com) SPECIAL GUEST DJ: philgood -special detroit set- (inbeat records) PHONIQ RESIDENTS: naw - live (noisefactoryrecords.com) cyan - dj (modular systems, ckut) khanfucius - dj (panospria.com) VISUALS: delray - (rx-tx/asphodel/reflective) johnny ranger - (mindroots.com) SATURDAY FEBRUARY 19 le local 7154 st-urbain 2100 - 0600 $5 at the door http://www.phoniq.net/ *PRESS RELEASE* The phoniq collective invites you to the launch of the phoniq netlabel. over the past year phoniq has been active in canada's electronic music community, coordinating live music series, initiating country wide dialog through our mailing list and web portal and involving artists in projects and collaborations. now we are happy to announce the the launch of the phoniq netlabel as well as the launch of the new phoniq.net website which will encourage even more interaction and participation from electronic music artists. phoniq netlabel will release material online in mp3 format at regular intervals, giving exposure to the breadth of canadian talent. the label kicks off with releases from 12 artists, featuring the sounds of up and coming artists as well as those already known within the electronic music community. the launch party on february 19th will play host to 4 of these 12 artists. bleupulp of quebec city will make his first live appearance in montreal with a minimal techno set. montreal's fm_man will perform a live set of his dancefloor rocking beats, insomniak brings his techno infused breakbeat sound, and sarcastic will play his signature blend of cutting edge tek. also appearing at the launch will be guest dj philgood, well known in montreal for his unique electro style. for this event he will delve into the crates to bring us a rare detroit techno set - not to be missed! phoniq residents naw, khanfucius and cyan will be rounding out the night into minimal, deep, glitch and dub techno territories. throughout the night, vjs johnny ranger and delray will stimulate and intrigue with their diverse visual textures and techniques. *BIOS/INFO* PHONIQ [www.phoniq.net] phoniq is a collective working to foster collaboration and communication between electronic music artists in canada. phoniq.net is a web portal where artists are invited to join our growing community by participating in our mailing list as well as ongoing projects. projects include live music series, file sharing collaborations, and the phoniq netlabel. BLEUPULP [syndroma.org] maxime tanguay aka bleupulp is an active member of quebec city electronic music scene he fisrt started dj-ing jungle music in rave parties around 2000, then opened up for various electronic music style such as techno, house, idm, minimal ... his love for electronic music pushed him to start creating his own music, since about 2002 you can hear him playing live with machines and laptop. his music could be described as colourful, texturized and experimental. he is currently working on a few projects such as a net label, cd-r, and cd album releases. maxime is part of the syndroma colective and the pertinence crew, organizations that focus on promoting quality electronic music. PHILGOOD [inbeat records] Having spent more than half of his life behind turntables, Philgood has always given priority to music that takes the listener into new dimensions, stimulating dance, excitement, and an escape from the rigors of everyday life. Philgood has by now caught the ears and attention of electronica scenesters the world over. Through appearances at such renowned Montreal clubs as Sona, Circus, Red Lite or Playground, and via his performances overseas, Philgood has dropped records alongside techno luminaries including Laurent Garnier, Marco Carola, Richie Hawtin, DJ Rush, Sven Väth, Green Velvet, Thomas Krome, Joel Mull and T-1000. SARCASTIC [level4productions.com] This amorphous being has contributed to the subculture’s cabalistic causes on many levels for the past decade, performing at virtually all of Montreal's clubs and coast-to-coast across the country alongside techno luminaries including Frankie Bones, Thomas Krome, Slobodan or The Punisher, and minimal experimentalists such as Andrew Duke, Kero, Algorithm, or Deadbeat. Possessed since childhood with a needling drive to splice together discrete musical compositions, first with cassette decks, microphones, CD players or 8-tracks, it was only a matter of time before an unwitting companion introduced Sarcastic to his destiny in the early nineties: the Technics-1200. Since, Sarcastic has founded Level 4 Productions, a record label, artist collective and promotion company synonymous with the cutting-edge of techno. His love for the chugging repetitive nature of ghettotek, pure tek, acid house and hardcore genres remains informed by an early appreciation for hip-hop, stoner rock, jazz and psychedelia of all sorts. Equally at home behind two or three decks, Sarcastic’s styles range from the abstract headiness of minimal and experimental tek to his own tongue-in-cheek productions based largely on recognizable samples from such disparate sources as movies, rap or funk. INSOMNIAK [insomniak.ca] ___ Base:: Montreal, Canada. ___ Weapon of choice:: a mashup of heavyweight breakbeats and funky analog techno. ___ Releases:: two 12” singles (under the name Phreak) and numerous compilation and independent cd releases. The single “Deep Phreak” was remixed by house legend John Aquaviva and found its way on to DJ play-lists around the world. ___ Televison:: creation of breakbeat theme songs and cues for MTV’s “Blame Game” and “Crush” on the USA Network as well as station ID beats for the new channel “MTV Jams”. Also heard on CBC "ZED TV" and soon on "Nerve". ___ Live performances:: have included opening for such international acts as The Art of Trance, Spacetime Continuum, Misjah, Westbam, The Stickmen, Skylab 2000, Delta 9 and Kenny Ken. FM_MAN [rave.ca] 21 year old Montreal native Scott Philip has been producing electronic music since 1996, covering a wide range of musical styles. Fm_man is his latest solo music project, combining the influences of house, techno, dub, jazz, synthpop, idm, industrial, and electro into a fusion of dance floor friendly sounds. Widely respected in the underground online music community, Scott's music has topped charts on several music portals including mp3.com and rave.ca. NAW [noisefactoryrecords.com] montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clever-music, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. he has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada.to co-enside with his recent releases on these labels and pans to retunr to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. CYAN [ckut, traktion.com] Montreal based dj, radio host and producer cyan aka Corina MacDonald has been an active participant in montreal’s electronic music scene since 1996. She currently hosts modular systems, an electronic music magazine show on ckut 90.3 fm and is also involved in organizing phoniq collective events and projects. Her sound can best be described as layered, dense and deep rhythms intersecting the genres of techno, house and electro. Her independently produced DJ mix ‘The Gravity Protocol’ has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. KHANFUCIUS [panospria.com] Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. DELRAY [rx-tx/asphodel/reflective] Matthew Biederman’s (DelRay) diverse range of audiovisual performances and installations find their common ground in themes of “cut-up” electronic image delivery, media saturation, data systems and electromagnetic spectrum scanning. Biederman, who has performed and exhibited both nationally and internationally, has recently developed his work via various prestigious artist-in-residence programs or festival “laboratories” including the Center for Experimental Television (New York), Makrolab (while situated at Blair Atholl, Scotland) and SIGGRAPH. In addition to winning awards as Bay Area Artist in New Media (New Langton Arts) and first prize at the Break21 Festival (Slovenia), his work has been exhibited in numerous festivals including the 7 Festival Internacional (Lima, Peru) New Forms Festival (Vancouver, Canada), the Chicago Underground Film Festival, Paris/Berlin Recontres International, and Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Biederman also performs extensively in the US and abroad most recently at such venues as Signal Sever! (Futuresonic04, ISEA, and venues in Vienna, Ljubljana, and Paris) as well as the Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago where he works with a variety of sound artists to perform Audio/Visual compositions. JOHNNY RANGER [mindroots.com] The artistic projects of Johnny Ranger include VJING, Interdisciplinary Shows, Performances and Web art. He is the founder of Mindroots a sensuous poetic laboratory of non linear creation. He has been a regular at the SAT, he presented works at the Biennale d’art contemporain, the New Museum of Contemporary art in New York, EspaceTangente and at the Lachapelle theater amongs other. He is currently working on a new live performance of open ended audio-visual narratives entitled: The Dynamic Constellations which includes footages he has shot in Brazil, India, Indonesia and Canada. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 14:36:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34468-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55401 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:36:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 55385 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:36:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:36:15 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] new publication: Torben Sangild In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE3A160F.1B6E8%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ola, Torben Sangild lets me know that he has some work out.. best, tobias ============== From: Torben Sangild I just thought I'd let you know that the book "Bad Music" was finally published in October 2004. Apart from my essay "Glitch The Beauty of Malfunction" there is also an essay by Eliot Bates called "Glitches, bugs and hisses: the degeneration of musical recordings and the contemporary musical work" that might be of interest. More info here: http://cat.lib.unimelb.edu.au/search/i?SEARCH=0415943655+ Feel free to post the reference on the microsound group. Best, Torben ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 13:48:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34467-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 36935 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:48:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 36925 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:48:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:48:07 -0600 From: bremsstrahlung recordings <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] jos smolders? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <HAEGJCNFIDPIDMHFGAIFEECBCAAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i am trying to contact jos smolders but the earlabs addresses i have tried keep bouncing. if anyone has an address of his which has worked in the last week i'd really appreciate it if you could send it to me off list. thanks! josh ---- www.bremsstrahlung-recordings.org NEW: net-audio sublabel TRANS>PARENT RADIATION trans001 - Spellewauerynsherde, Interpretations Various & Sundry featuring freely downloadable tracks by Fennesz/Kit Clayton/Taylor Deupree/Steve Roden/Stephan Matthieu/Alejandra & Aeron/etc. physical releases: blung002 lowercasesound 2002 2cd box set 3" cd metal box series [2 CD] - 2nd edition blung003 toshiya tsunoda/civyiu kkliu . blung004 radu malfatti/ilya monosov --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 12:36:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34466-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 18290 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:35:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 18277 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:35:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:35:51 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 16-02-05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RmooU7Pu90pD7r8wotcq9Q)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_RmooU7Pu90pD7r8wotcq9Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ Contenidos Onda Sonora 16-02-05 01. AMON TOBIN Track: - Album: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory OST Label: Ninja Tune Abrimos el programa de esta semana con la sorprendente banda sonora de la última edición del videojuego Splinter Cell, compuesta por el músico electrónico brasileño Amon Tobin. Edita Ninja Tune con una mezcla de los contenidos musicales del videojuego Soundtrack for the lastest edition of the videogame Splinter Cell, composed by the Brazilian electronic musician Amon Tobin. Released by Ninja Tune with a mix from the musical contents of the game 02. TADD MULLINIX Track: Shaven Glass Album: VA- Condominium Label: Mousike lab Compilación titulada "Condominium", recientemente editada por el sello italiano Mousike Lab. Una colección de electrónica de corte más o menos frío en la que encontramos entre otros artistas a los alemanes Tarwater, los islandeses Mùm o Tadd Mullinix, un joven DJ de Michigan formado en el mundo del techno que progresivamente ha ido trasladándose hacia terrenos más experimentales Compilation entitled "Condominium", recently released by the Italian imprint Mousike Lab. A collection of more or less cold electronics with, among other artists, the German Tarwater, the Icelandic Mùm or Tadd Mullinix, a young DJ from Michigan formed in the world of techno that progressively moved towards more experimental lands 03. RESINA Track: Jeninbophal Disco: Opinio Omnium Sello: Mousike Lab Continuamos en Mousike Lab desde Nápoles, precisamente de la mano de los impulsores del sello, Marco Messina del grupo 99 Posse, y el dúo electrónico italiano Retina.it, a quienes conocemos por sus lanzamientos en el sello norteamericano Hefty. Su proyecto conjunto se llama Resina y esta es una muestra de electrónica analógica procedente de su debut en largo: "Opinio Omnium" Still in Mousike Lab from Naples, in fact by the hand of the promoters of the idea, Marco Messina from the group 99 Posse, and the Italian electronic duet Retina.it, who we know for their releases on the Hefty label in the US. Their combined project is Resina and analogical electronics for their debut LP: "Opinio Omnium" 04. FABRICE PLANQUETTE Track: 4 Album: Dans La Solitude Des Champs De Coton Label: Con-v Artista que viene trabajando desde 1995, interesado por la creación electrónica y electroacústica para teatro, danza, videoarte, multimedia e instalaciones, aunque practica igualmente la poesía sonora y la composición abstracta, siendo fundador del grupo Morituri, además de dirigir los sellos Centrum y Optium, donde ha publicado gran parte de su discografía, a caballo con otros sellos como el belga Entity, el portugués Enough o el netlabel madrileño Con-v, dirigido por Miguel Ángel Tolosa, un sello muy dinámico en los últimos tiempos Fabrice Planquette is an artist working since 1995 interested in electronic and electroacoustic creation for theater, dance, videoart, multimedia and installations, practising equally sound poetry and abstract composition. He is founder member of the group Morituri, besides directing the labels Centrum and Optium, where he has released great part of its discography, together with other labels as the Belgian Entity, the Portuguese Enough or more recently Con-v netlabel from Madrid 05. DEAD LETTERS SPELL OUT DEAD WORDS Track: The Hills Are Alive Album: 11 Instances Of Dead Letters + Words Label: Ideal Recordings Sonidos concretos encontrados junto a drones melódicos, ensamblados a lo largo de 50 minutos y 11 instancias por el sueco Thomas Ekelund, diseñador gráfico y artista sonoro, involucrado en varios proyectos (entre ellos Normal Music), casi todos editados en net-labels con base en los Estados Unidos como Zeromoon o Fukk God. Este es su último trabajo como Dead Letters Spell Out Dead Words Concrete found sounds next to melodic drones, assembled along 50 minutes and 11 instances by Thomas Ekelund, Swedish graphic designer and sound artist, involved in several projects (among them Normal Music), almost every of them released in net-labels with base in the United States like Zeromoon or Fukk God. This is his last work as Dead Letters Spell Out Dead Words on Ideal Recordings (Sweden) 06. MARK FELL Track: 12,13,14 Album: Ten Types Of Elsewhere Label: Line Nueva aventura en solitario de Mark Fell tras su prolífica colaboración con Mat Steel en SND. Este disco, "Ten Types Of Elsewhere", parte de obras realizadas para instalaciones de sonido en las que investiga en la relación entre los sonidos y el espacio geográfico en el que efímeramente residen Mark Fell rushes a new adventure after his fruitful collaboration with Mat Steel in SND. Their last record, "Ten Types Of Elsewhere", departs from works carried out for sound installations in which he investigates the relationship between sounds and the geographical environments in which they fleetingly reside 07. MONOS Track: Entering Album: Landscapes Label: Twentyhertz Uno de los largos cortes del nuevo CD de Monos, "Landscapes", una colaboración entre el dúo formado por Darren Tate (de Ora) y Colin Potter (que formó NWW junto a Steven Stapleton), en esta ocasión con el apoyo de Robin Barnes y junto al también británico Paul Bradley, compositor por ordenador que edita el disco en su propio sello Twentyhertz, bautizado así tras el debut de Bradley en el sello ICR, del propio Colin Potter Collaboration between the duet formed by Darren Tate (of Ora) and Colin Potter (that formed NWW with Steven Stapleton), in this occasion with the support of Robin Barnes (for this track) and Paul Bradley, British computer-based composer that is releasing the work in his own Twentyhertz label, baptized this way after Bradley's debut in Colin Potter's ICR label 08. NAKED CITY Track: Louange A L'Eternite De Jesus (Messiaen) Album: Grand Guignol (The Complete Studio Recordings) Label: Tzadik Para los minutos finales de Onda Sonora esta semana hemos reservado una novedad que hará las delicias de los admiradores del saxofonista John Zorn y en especial a los de su más heterogéneo proyecto, Naked City, banda formada en 1988 por Zorn y otros cuatro músicos del downtown neoyorkino: Bill Frisell, Fred Frith, Joey Baron y Wayne Horvitz. Naked City editaron originalmente casi todo su material sólo en Japón, por lo que actualmente John Zorn se ha lanzado a la publicación de las grabaciones completas de la banda, remasterizadas y con colaboraciones de lujo como la de Mike Patton. Nos despedimos con Naked City y una versión del compositor francés Olivier Messiaen, incluída en una de los discos reeditados, "Grand Guignol" For the final minutes of Onda Sonora this week we reserved a novelty for the pleasure of saxophonist John Zorn's admirers and especially to those of his most heterogeneous project, Naked City, band formed in 1988 by Zorn and other four musicians from the downtown: Bill Frisell, Fred Frith, Joey Baron and Wayne Horvitz. Naked City originally released almost all their material in Japan, reason for John Zorn to re-release the complete recordings of the band in his Tzadik label, remastered and with collaborators such as Mike Patton. This is a version from the French composer Olivier Messiaen, included in one of the reissued works, "Grand Guignol" _____ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias. Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you. --------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_RmooU7Pu90pD7r8wotcq9Q)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 17 00:44:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34465-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39191 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:44:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 39180 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:44:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:14:02 -0600 From: David Powers <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx-xxxx-x.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well... Playing an instrument is impressive, true, but - is it really what makes music so amazing? Isn't that more along the level of enjoying sports and athletic events? Personally, I'm more interested in the way a musical performance SOUNDS than in how much skill was required to create the music. I think the fetishization of technique is problematic, to say the least. I'd say that technique is just a means to an end, and that the kind of skills and techniques needed for one project might be total different from another. Being a great jazz pianist might not help you create a brilliant electronic composition, and being a great electronic composer won't help you play jazz piano. Each activity should be evaluated on its own merits. I play jazz piano, but I'm just as happy twiddling knobs if that is what the music I'm currently involved in requires. ~David David Powers Secretary DePaul University, School of Education Department of Leadership in Education, Language, and Human Services 773-325-4806 >>> xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx 02/08/05 01:07PM >>> Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a "dead-ended physical instrument". kp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 21:53:27 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34464-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70295 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:53:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 70284 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:53:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:53:17 -0500 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bias peak license change In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > > DSP-Quattro is the new competition to Peak and it's very significantly > cheaper than Peak and just as powerful, with significantly better tech > support; you generally get an email back from the guy who writes the > app, rather than a faceless customer service person, and they are > incredibly responsive to feature suggestions. stefano (the author) is great. i've used his products for many years (dsp-quattro was originally d-sound-pro) and they've always been way more than worth the money. nice to see that he's still making them better and getting kudos in major trades. cheers b bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 21:48:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34463-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 67921 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:48:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 67909 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:48:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:50:01 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Toronto Microsounders: TMHNIYL To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > ======================= > > "The Most Horrible Night In Your Life" vol. 3 > 'Noise of a Woman' > Wednesday, February 16th , 8:30pm > PWYC > > New Works Studio > 319 Spadina Ave. ( 1 lights north of Spadina and Dundas) > 3 solo sets by: > > Cathryn Crockett - 1x4 space > Jasmine Landau - metal wires, last breath melodica > Dominique Banoun - cpu freezes , memory leaks. > > followed by a trio > > > ======================= > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 21:07:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34462-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 52240 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:07:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 52198 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:07:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:07:11 -0500 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bias peak license change In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DSP-Quattro is the new competition to Peak and it's very significantly cheaper than Peak and just as powerful, with significantly better tech support; you generally get an email back from the guy who writes the app, rather than a faceless customer service person, and they are incredibly responsive to feature suggestions. Highly recommended for anyone looking for an alternative to Peak for whom Audacity doesn't fit the bill. And I agree with Nowak, Sound Effects 0.9.2 is awesome and one of the apps I'm keeping an OS 9 partition on my old g3 ibook for. Weird Tempo forever! Anthony On Feb 16, 2005, at 5:26 AM, Domonkos Nagy wrote: > > although my money has been refunded by the seller I strongly recommend > against buying any product from them. another fine example what happens > when competition (spark) is gone... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 17:23:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34461-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31856 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:22:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 31650 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:22:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:27:19 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ilios & special guests live! To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJOEBIFHAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx aufabwegen presents 18.02.2005, einlass: 20.00h ILIOS (antifrost/greece) & XABIER ERKIZIA (antifrost/spain) live: kulturbunker mülheim berliner str. 20 51063 koeln http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de UND: 19.02.2005, einlass: 20.00h geraeuschwelten XIX ILIOS (antifrost/greece) & SPEHRICAL DISRUPTED (audiophrob/germany) & XABIER ERKIZIA (antifrost/spain) live: cuba achtermannstr. 12 48143 muenster http://www.geraeuschwelten.de http://www.aufabwegen.com http://www.cuba-cultur.de info: http://www.siteilios.gr/ http://www.disrupted.de http://www.ertza.net/erkizia.htm http://www.antifrost.gr/ Dimitris Kariofillis zählt mit seinem Musikprojekt ILIOS und seinem Label Antifrost zu den wichtigsten Vertretern der internationalen Szene der nicht-akademischen elektronischen Musik. ILIOS hat auf zahlreichen internationalen Festivals gespielt und mit Musikern wie Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth) oder Francisco Lopez zusammen gearbeitet. Außerdem komponiert ILIOS Musik für Theater- und Filmarbeiten. Als Support stellt Kariofillis den hierzulande noch neuen Sound-Manipulator XABIER ERKIZIA vor. ILIOS: is a sonic experimentalist from Greece. He started in 1992 and since has released a number of solo albums, staged several multimedia shows and contributed tracks to numerous compilations on labes such as Staalplaat, Diskono and Absurd. In 1997 he launched his own label Antifrost on which he publishes the music of like-minded experimental musicians including Francisco Lopez, Sachiko M, Daniel Menche, Kim Cascone, Jason Kahn, Zbigniew Karkowski, Maja Ratkje and Philip Samartzis. Ilios also works for dance, theatre, cinema and communication projects. He did collaboration projects with: Francisco Lopez, Jason Kahn, Coti, Steinbruechel, Teleform, Thurston Moore, as11, a.o. In the last 10 years ilios´s sonic spectrum has been moving constantly from orthodox silence to catholic noise stopping over to infamous covers including Gainsbourg's "Je t'aime" and the theme from american soap opera "Dynasty". SPHERICAL DISRUPTED SPHERICAL DISRUPTED ist ein Solo-Projekt von Mirko Hentrich (Experimentum Crucis, Sick En For, SKAB). Zunächst wurden die Tonträger im Eigenvertrieb unter dem Namen SPHERICAL veröffentlicht. Aus rechtlichen Gründen jedoch ab 1999 unter dem Namen SPHERICAL DISRUPTED. SPHERICAL DISRUPTED bewegt sich musikalisch zwischen Industrial, Noise und Ambient, was bereits eine unkonventionelle Herangehensweise an Klänge, bzw. deren Erzeugung und Bearbeitung, voraussetzt. Folgende Veröffentlichungen sind von SPHERICAL DISRUPTED im Eigenvertrieb erschienen: "Zerschellt, zersplittert" (MC, 1995) "Vergeltung" (CD-R, 1998) "Endstation" (CD-R, 1998) "Entsorgung" (CD-R, 2000) "Kontingent" (2CD-R, 2003) "Torrent" (CD-R, 2002, Kaos Interim vs. Spherical Disrupted, live) "Alarmen / Spherical Disrupted" (CD-R, 2003, Split mit Alarmen) XABIER ERKIZIA: is a multidisciplinary artist from the Basque Country in Spain. Has been working on different media. Erkizia's principal characteristics are investigation, some kind of curiosity on any art or communication form and diversity. His debut album "Entresol" was just released on Antifrost. Xabier Erkizia has collaborated with the likes of: Mattin, Eddie Prevost, Ilios, TV Pow, Alejandra & Aeron, Margarida Garcia, Mark Wastell, Josh Abrams and others. He organises a yearly international festival in Bera (Nafarroa) ERTZ , dedicated to experimental arts. Currently his work is concentrated on music collaborations, solo works and installations. ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 17:01:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34460-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22619 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:01:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 22607 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:01:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:03:28 -0500 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for Febuary 2, 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2005/02/02 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > Hubbub > Hoib 1 > Hoib > Matchless Records > > > > Wayne Horivitz/Ron Samworth, etc... > Childern At Play > Intersection Poems > Spool > * > > > > Cecil Taylor/Italian Instabile Orchestra > Part 5 > The Owner of The Riverbank > Enja Records > > > > Peter Brotzmann Tentet > Six Gun Territory > Signs > Okka disc > > > > Nathan Hubbard > Skeleton Key Orchestra > East on 53rd Street > Skeleton Key Orchestra > Circumvention Music > > > > Kenny Baldwin > Quartet > 25th Street Rag > Distillery > Static Airport Records > * > > > > Nick Fraser/Justin Haynes > The Anaheim Angels > Are Faking It > independent > * > > > > Manuel Mota > Deep in Your Face > Quartets > Headlights > > > > Ernesto Rodriques > 32' 45' > Kreis > Creative Sources > > > > Yuko Nexus 6 > Village Blacksmith > Nexus6 Songbook > Sonore > > > > Sarah Peebles > Drillbit Skiploop > Insect Groove > Studio Excelo > * > > > > Mike Hansen/Pau Torres > track 1 > demo > independent > * > > > > Paul Dutton > Stereo Head > Oralizations > Ambience Magnestiques > * > > > > The Reveries > My Reverie > Blase Kisses > Rat-Drifting > * > > > > Maja Ratkje/Lasse > Marhaug > How Much Noise > Can We Make?(Lets Find Out) > Music For Faking > C3R > > > > Mats Gustafsson/Sonic Youth and Friends > Hidros pt 3 > Hidros 3 > Smalltown Supersound > > > > Franz Hautzinger/Gene Coleman/etc > Concert in St Louis 2 > Concert in St Louis > Grob > > > > John Butcher > Ashfall > Cavern With Nightlife > Weight of Wax > > > > James Duncan > Encounters 2 > Solo Works > inbound Recordings > * > > > > Michael Keith > Horses > Non Adhersive Electric Guitar Solos > www.alexteric.com > * > > > > Pau Torres/Strand > Closed Schools > Strand Guitar and Noises > Red > > > > A.Sheldon/Z.Buck/E.Karel/J.Ajemian/T.Daisy > Don't Get Arrested > Relay Signals > Lucky Kitchen > > > > Yuko nexus6 > Lazy Bones > Nexus6 Songbook > Sonore > > > > Sarah peebles > Higurashi In Yamanashi > Insect groove > Studio Excelo > * > > > > Barbardah > Peliczaple > Babardah > Abzu > > * denotes Canadian Content > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 16:10:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34459-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96999 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:10:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 96989 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:10:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] more London action In-reply-to: <001201c512d7$68d53900$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [138.40.30.70] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2005 15:21:03.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[20CF2700:01C5143B] more to do in London- There's a Christian Marclay show at the Barbican that opens tomorrow, til early May, and an interesting Guardian article about Marclay, old and new- www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,,1412362,00.html And a Tarkovsky season at the NFT beginning early March... best, Ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 16:06:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34458-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93441 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:06:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 93431 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:06:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:15:20 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] London EA concert In-reply-to: <001201c512d7$68d53900$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: [138.40.30.70] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2005 15:16:03.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DDF0C00:01C5143A] Theophraste Peeble wrote: >2 - I'll be in London from the 20th february to the 5 march... if you've got plans for concerts, exhibitions, etc that should be great There's an electroacoustic concert at City U in London on the eve of Thurs Feb 24 (7pm), with new works by Jean-Claude Risset, Daniel Teruggi, Mario Mary and Jon Appleton. Advisable to reserve tickets by phone, and show up early- details here: www.city.ac.uk/music/concert.htm If any microsounders end up there, say hello- anyone involved with setup will know who I am. We always go for drinks after the show, Ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 15:12:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34457-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 74077 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:12:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 74067 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:12:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:12:50 +0000 From: Edward George <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Edward George <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=VFPvzA96GROyBmy7q9x+UM4KQtAnZhh5wYAiDGt2/hbXPt6TB0DjrBLiHN0mgB1szPowAMwa7zL4/3+gto4kLaZ0ovpBWbOgspcbEvHBNP+pHNhlNcllq1NpjYo+F6GA8mHPP82d1PcnBBVpq8CN9F7xQnrDrvEvi4wQAaDGS1o= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > if you can remember when cassette tape came out, people were upset. i > forget the ad, but it went something like: "taping is killing..." the > independent recording artist's income. "Home Taping is Killing Music" http://usability.typepad.com/confusability/images/taping_killing.gif ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 15:07:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34456-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71120 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:07:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 71110 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:07:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:06:56 -0500 From: john hudak <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1026-6697E6B4802C11D9B6A8000502896A9E@[192.168.0.100]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello folks, i think permanence has a lot to do with collecting. physical objects are more permanent than digital files. if someone likes something enough, i think they will always want a copy of it in a tangible form. if you can remember when cassette tape came out, people were upset. i forget the ad, but it went something like: "taping is killing..." the independent recording artist's income. so how do musicians make a living these days if you can't sell an object? playing live is important these days for musicians who want to make an income. there is always a certain amount of energy/excitement generated from a live situation...if only in expectations or curiousity. it seems for convenince's sake, people are downloading albums and songs from places like the itunes store, but i don't think artists will get much out of that. who knows where things are going. personally, i like to use my airport express to play mp3s through my stereo on the other side of the room, as well as other rooms in the house. wireless technology is probably going to play a part in how things go in the future. maybe musicians will make more unique, one-of-a-kind works, similar to the way painting and sculpture are sold/traded/exhibited... best future, john > > On Feb 16, 2005, at 2:48 AM, Kevin Ponto wrote: > > > By "collector", I think he meant someone who is interested in the rare > > finds and complete catalogs, bootlegs and so forth as well as huge > > libraries, as opposed to people who just amass as many files as they > > can with little regard for what they have. > > > > The point of course, is that the limitations of physical distribution > > have provided people with the pastime of collecting, yet the digital > > distribution model is not hampered by these limitations. So will > > collecting, in this sense, survive and if it does, how will it differ > > from today? > > > > Personally, I've had the experience of trying to track down a rare mp3 > > online. it's no easy chore, almost as hard as trying to track down > > something in real life. It was an mp3 that was only posted to an > > artists website for a few weeks. I grabbed it and had for a while, > > then I lost it (fried computer parralled a physically corrupted backup > > cd) and spent six months or so trying to track it down on p2p networks > > and the internet before I found it again. The whole experience, and > > the rush I got when I finally found it, was not unlike that of > > physical collecting. > > > > Anyone else have a similar experience or insight? jhudak at pobox.com http://www.johnhudak.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 14:32:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34455-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57701 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:32:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 57690 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:32:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:31:44 +0000 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bias peak license change In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2005 14:32:48.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[63095CA0:01C51434] I had the opposite experience with DSP Quattro (http://www.i3net.it): I stupidly messed up my license when I upgraded it to version 2, and they sorted it out for me. I much prefer it to Audacity (not that Audacity isn't a great project, I just like some of DSP Quattro's features), and it's a lot cheaper than Peak. i3 seem to be quite nice, too :) On 16 Feb 2005, at 10:26, Domonkos Nagy wrote: > before anyone else learns this the hard way, do *not* buy peak (or any > bias > product) 2nd hand (as i did on ebay), as bias does not allow > registration/license > transfers anymore. quote from their cust. rep's mail: > >> Unfortunately, our company policy regarding >> license transfers changed several months ago, and >> I am unable to transfer this license to a new user. > > although my money has been refunded by the seller I strongly recommend > against buying any product from them. another fine example what happens > when competition (spark) is gone... > > d. -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 11:10:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34454-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95219 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:10:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 95209 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:10:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:10:11 +0100 From: Bernhard Schreiner <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Ilios + Xabier Erkizia in Frankfurt/Germany To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx LIVE: Ilios and Xabier Erkizia ATELIERFRANKFURT, Hohenstaufenstr. 27, Frankfurt/M. Thursday 17.02.2005 open 21:30 ANTIFROST (GR) : http://www.antifrost.gr/ Extreme sound souvenirs since 1997 info: http://www.siteilios.gr/ http://www.ertza.net/erkizia.htm Dimitris Kariofillis zählt mit seinem Musikprojekt ILIOS und seinem Label Antifrost zu den wichtigsten Vertretern der internationalen Szene der nicht-akademischen elektronischen Musik. ILIOS hat auf zahlreichen internationalen Festivals gespielt und mit Musikern wie Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth) oder Francisco Lopez zusammen gearbeitet. Außerdem komponiert ILIOS Musik für Theater- und Filmarbeiten. Als Support stellt Kariofillis den hierzulande noch neuen Sound-Manipulator XABIER ERKIZIA vor. ILIOS: is a sonic experimentalist from Greece. He started in 1992 and since has released a number of solo albums, staged several multimedia shows and contributed tracks to numerous compilations on labes such as Staalplaat, Diskono and Absurd. In 1997 he launched his own label Antifrost on which he publishes the music of like-minded experimental musicians including Francisco Lopez, Sachiko M, Daniel Menche, Kim Cascone, Jason Kahn, Zbigniew Karkowski, Maja Ratkje and Philip Samartzis. Ilios also works for dance, theatre, cinema and communication projects. He did collaboration projects with: Francisco Lopez, Jason Kahn, Coti, Steinbruechel, Teleform, Thurston Moore, as11, a.o. In the last 10 years ilios´s sonic spectrum has been moving constantly from orthodox silence to catholic noise stopping over to infamous covers including Gainsbourg's "Je t'aime" and the theme from american soap opera "Dynasty". XABIER ERKIZIA: is a multidisciplinary artist from the Basque Country in Spain. Has been working on different media. Erkizia's principal characteristics are investigation, some kind of curiosity on any art or communication form and diversity. His debut album "Entresol" was just released on Antifrost. Xabier Erkizia has collaborated with the likes of: Mattin, Eddie Prevost, Ilios, TV Pow, Alejandra & Aeron, Margarida Garcia, Mark Wastell, Josh Abrams and others. He organises a yearly international festival in Bera (Nafarroa) ERTZ , dedicated to experimental arts. Currently his work is concentrated on music collaborations, solo works and installations. ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 10:36:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34453-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88021 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:36:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 88011 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:36:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:36:08 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bias peak license change In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 16, 2005, at 5:26 AM, Domonkos Nagy wrote: > before anyone else learns this the hard way, do *not* buy peak (or any > bias > product) 2nd hand (as i did on ebay), as bias does not allow > registration/license > transfers anymore. quote from their cust. rep's mail: > >> Unfortunately, our company policy regarding >> license transfers changed several months ago, and >> I am unable to transfer this license to a new user. > > although my money has been refunded by the seller I strongly recommend > against buying any product from them. another fine example what happens > when competition (spark) is gone... Thanks for the heads up. Audacity suits me fine now, but should it not in the future I know what to avoid. I miss SoundEffects 0.9.2. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 10:26:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34452-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84260 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:26:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 84249 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:26:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:26:45 +0000 From: Domonkos Nagy <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] bias peak license change To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2005 10:26:46.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[041D19B0:01C51412] before anyone else learns this the hard way, do *not* buy peak (or any bias product) 2nd hand (as i did on ebay), as bias does not allow registration/license transfers anymore. quote from their cust. rep's mail: > Unfortunately, our company policy regarding > license transfers changed several months ago, and > I am unable to transfer this license to a new user. although my money has been refunded by the seller I strongly recommend against buying any product from them. another fine example what happens when competition (spark) is gone... d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 09:07:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34451-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65138 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:07:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 65124 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:07:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:07:46 +0200 From: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [adv] zavoloka - plavyna [cd] on Nexsound. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: unknown via proxy [80.249.229.86] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello dear comrades. new CD on Nexsound is out now: Zavoloka - Plavyna - /CD ns37 Katja Zavoloka - musician from Kyiv / Ukraine, who released significant mp3 album Suspenzia, continues with her invented type of sound when melodies and crazy rhythms combined with abstract analogue and digital noises. The sound of Zavoloka is very impuslive mixture of rich, dense and often unexpected soundscapes, but at the same time it goes into warm and nice atmosphere. PLAVYNA inspired a lot by ethnic culture of Ciscarpathian region of Ukraine and thus mixed with ethno-folk music of that area. take a look: http://www.nexsound.org/zavoloka-plavyna.html thanks for attention. - .. - + , , .. +++> - environmental music : http://www.nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 08:14:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34450-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53114 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:14:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 53085 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:14:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:14:27 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 16, 2005, at 2:48 AM, Kevin Ponto wrote: > By "collector", I think he meant someone who is interested in the rare > finds and complete catalogs, bootlegs and so forth as well as huge > libraries, as opposed to people who just amass as many files as they > can with little regard for what they have. > > The point of course, is that the limitations of physical distribution > have provided people with the pastime of collecting, yet the digital > distribution model is not hampered by these limitations. So will > collecting, in this sense, survive and if it does, how will it differ > from today? > > Personally, I've had the experience of trying to track down a rare mp3 > online. it's no easy chore, almost as hard as trying to track down > something in real life. It was an mp3 that was only posted to an > artists website for a few weeks. I grabbed it and had for a while, > then I lost it (fried computer parralled a physically corrupted backup > cd) and spent six months or so trying o track it down on p2p networks > and the internet before I found it again. The whole experience, and > the rush I got when I finally found it, was not unlike that of > physical collecting. > > Anyone else have a similar experience or insight? Collecting is an obsessive behavior. My obsessive behaviors come out in other ways. I have thought about this in the past. One thing I came up with was releasing mp3s on my site, and then having the server remove them after N number of downloads. Of course such an effort is easily thwarted by any number of means. I think its best to give up the idea of collecting really. Actually, I do sort of collect stuffed octopi... - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 07:48:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34449-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46384 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:48:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 46373 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:48:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:48:40 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx By "collector", I think he meant someone who is interested in the rare finds and complete catalogs, bootlegs and so forth as well as huge libraries, as opposed to people who just amass as many files as they can with little regard for what they have. The point of course, is that the limitations of physical distribution have provided people with the pastime of collecting, yet the digital distribution model is not hampered by these limitations. So will collecting, in this sense, survive and if it does, how will it differ from today? Personally, I've had the experience of trying to track down a rare mp3 online. it's no easy chore, almost as hard as trying to track down something in real life. It was an mp3 that was only posted to an artists website for a few weeks. I grabbed it and had for a while, then I lost it (fried computer parralled a physically corrupted backup cd) and spent six months or so trying o track it down on p2p networks and the internet before I found it again. The whole experience, and the rush I got when I finally found it, was not unlike that of physical collecting. Anyone else have a similar experience or insight? kp On Feb 15, 2005, at 8:26 PM, John Nowak wrote: > > On Feb 15, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Kevin Ponto wrote: > >> Since it is inevitable that music as a media will be a virtual object >> what will happen to the collector? > > People already have massive mp3 collections that they never listen to. > People are already collecting. Where's the dilemma? > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Feb 16 04:26:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34447-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53621 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:26:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 53609 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:26:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:26:23 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 15, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Kevin Ponto wrote: > Since it is inevitable that music as a media will be a virtual object > what will happen to the collector? People already have massive mp3 collections that they never listen to. People are already collecting. Where's the dilemma? - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 03:33:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34446-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35102 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:33:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 35084 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:33:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:33:42 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A healthy mechanism for reducing attachment to the physical :) Noel -----Original Message----- From: Frank D'Urso [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 2:31 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? I have pondered this myself. I have enjoyed MP3's since the 1990's but have been confused how to "collect" them. A guy here in Boston did a CDrom release of all his albums as MP3 files...WAY ahead of his time - (KINGS OF FEEDBACK - Bill T Miller) I didn't buy it because I did not understand it....and have not been able to find a copy since.... Meanwhile I amassed maybe 1 GB of music/sound from many obscure sources on my work computer.....I have that disk drive packed away soemplace but didn't consider the MP3s as part of my collection..... When MP3.com starting sending out CDroms of MP3 files I finally got that these were professional releases and thus "worthy" of my collection. Since I've accumulated MP3 files but not added them to my collection. I'd download stuff and burn CDs occasionally over the years, but no big deal. IPOD made organizing my MP3's way easier, but mostly I used it as a way to track my CD's at work and share music via IPOD station. I finally got an MP3 player this xmas and NOW I think that MP3's are fully valid form of media worthy of my attention now that I have a way to listen and transport sounds and music files. I "collect" music by creating a file for each album and storing right on my MP3 player, I can burn CDroms when I want to but no rush. I think the keys for me is the ability to play this music anywhere, have a easy to use hi tech database, and the flexibility/storability to handle a LARGE amount of information. Frank "recent convert" D'Urso Kevin Ponto wrote: > Hey list, > > Someone posted this question on the Ableton Live forum, and I though > it would be a good question to ask this bunch and see what your take > on it was, so here goes... > > kp > > ................................... > > Cosmosuave wrote: > > Since it is inevitable that music as a media will be a virtual object > what will happen to the collector? The reason people collect CD's and > LP's is because it is a tangible object, nice artwork, posters, pop up > album cover all that sort of stuff which down the road increases the > value of that said media.... > > How will this transcribe to a digital release? Will the collector > have a special electronic id indicating limited release and where is > the enjoyment in that... If a release is deemed to be a hit I guess > the label could release a limited edtion MP3 USB chip with fancy > packaging for the collector.... > > Something to ponder... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Wed Feb 16 03:31:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34445-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32998 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:31:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 32988 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:31:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:31:00 -0500 From: Frank D'Urso <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have pondered this myself. I have enjoyed MP3's since the 1990's but have been confused how to "collect" them. A guy here in Boston did a CDrom release of all his albums as MP3 files...WAY ahead of his time - (KINGS OF FEEDBACK - Bill T Miller) I didn't buy it because I did not understand it....and have not been able to find a copy since.... Meanwhile I amassed maybe 1 GB of music/sound from many obscure sources on my work computer.....I have that disk drive packed away soemplace but didn't consider the MP3s as part of my collection..... When MP3.com starting sending out CDroms of MP3 files I finally got that these were professional releases and thus "worthy" of my collection. Since I've accumulated MP3 files but not added them to my collection. I'd download stuff and burn CDs occasionally over the years, but no big deal. IPOD made organizing my MP3's way easier, but mostly I used it as a way to track my CD's at work and share music via IPOD station. I finally got an MP3 player this xmas and NOW I think that MP3's are fully valid form of media worthy of my attention now that I have a way to listen and transport sounds and music files. I "collect" music by creating a file for each album and storing right on my MP3 player, I can burn CDroms when I want to but no rush. I think the keys for me is the ability to play this music anywhere, have a easy to use hi tech database, and the flexibility/storability to handle a LARGE amount of information. Frank "recent convert" D'Urso Kevin Ponto wrote: > Hey list, > > Someone posted this question on the Ableton Live forum, and I though > it would be a good question to ask this bunch and see what your take > on it was, so here goes... > > kp > > ................................... > > Cosmosuave wrote: > > Since it is inevitable that music as a media will be a virtual object > what will happen to the collector? The reason people collect CD's and > LP's is because it is a tangible object, nice artwork, posters, pop up > album cover all that sort of stuff which down the road increases the > value of that said media.... > > How will this transcribe to a digital release? Will the collector > have a special electronic id indicating limited release and where is > the enjoyment in that... If a release is deemed to be a hit I guess > the label could release a limited edtion MP3 USB chip with fancy > packaging for the collector.... > > Something to ponder... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 16 03:17:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34444-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28665 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:17:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 28654 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:17:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:17:02 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Collectibility of Digital Files? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey list, Someone posted this question on the Ableton Live forum, and I though it would be a good question to ask this bunch and see what your take on it was, so here goes... kp .................................... Cosmosuave wrote: Since it is inevitable that music as a media will be a virtual object what will happen to the collector? The reason people collect CD's and LP's is because it is a tangible object, nice artwork, posters, pop up album cover all that sort of stuff which down the road increases the value of that said media.... How will this transcribe to a digital release? Will the collector have a special electronic id indicating limited release and where is the enjoyment in that... If a release is deemed to be a hit I guess the label could release a limited edtion MP3 USB chip with fancy packaging for the collector.... Something to ponder... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Tue Feb 15 23:09:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34442-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41952 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:09:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 41942 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:09:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:11:41 +1100 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Melb: uber lingua over the coming week(s) In-reply-to: <BE38CCB0.F899%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE38CCDD.F8A4%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Uber Lingua at St Jeromes chugs along nicely with some solid Melbourne based and interstate guests over the coming weeks... this week Cheops, a member of the act Qua, and Paulie Penguin are the featured guest disc spinners ... goto http://www.uberlingua.com/melb for more info Coming up over the coming weeks are Mashy P from Sydney, Sakamoiz from Hobart, Alan Nguyen from Brisbane and a few others still to be confirmed... We're still starting at around 6pm each week so pop down for an after work beverage or come later as we're open till 1am.... St Jeromes 7 Caledonian Lane Melb CBD (directly behind the lounge) Every Thursday from 6pm to 1am Residents: Raceless, bP and Saigon Sausage ______________________ Other News DJs Raceless, bP and Saigon Sausage will also be featured throughout the (completely sold out) St Jeromes laneway festival on Feb 27th.... so if you're comin we'll see you there. Uber Lingua is about to do events in Adelaide during the Womad weekend (March 4th, 5th, 6th) and two more lingo events in Hobart with the cluster collective, one in Feb (25th) and one in late March (25th)... DJs for these gigs are coming from all over Australia and teaming up with similarly motivated locals. More info closer to those dates... 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley first, a correction: i announced last playlist that 2005's first edition of framework:focus, which is coming up this friday, the 18th of february, would feature a live performance by stasisfield's john kannenberg. in fact, john will be joining us for our second edition of framework:focus, which will air on the 18th of march. this coming friday's edition will feature a work presented by regular framework contributor dallas simpson, in the form of an unedited soundwalk recorded in 1988 by his mother, entitled peggy's paradise. dallas himself describes his mother's detailed narrative description of her surroundings thusly: 'Mum's work is about emotive description, rather than any kind of objective accuracy. It is the sheer simplistic joy of the moment by moment experience that is communicated.' please tune in if you can - it should be a great show. this edition was held together by a skeleton of tranquil recordings made by jesse paul miller, along with some of his composed (although still very raw) work. we also heard recent unreleased work by jean-luc guionnet, both solo and in collaboration with eric la casa. this was tempered by noisier outings on the 23five label; some live material from francisco lopez, and some re-released archival material by gum, a vinyl manipulating project by andrew curtis and philip samartzis from the late 80's. again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11.02.05 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 16.02.05, at 11:00am gmt (artist / title / album / label) sarah hall / framework intro ambient room recording from the inside of an empty jug c/o xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx gum / stormy weather / vinyl anthology / 23five vinyl crackle and noise from unidentified record sources, a storm of static http://www.23five.org jesse paul miller / ponce inlet / searching for a quiet place / - a sleepy seaside town where sharks are seen coming in where the warm waters meet http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm eric la casa & jean-luc guionnet / - / inscape / - edited from recordings made of an installation in lille using found sound captures http://ascendre.free.fr, xxxxxxxx.xxxx-xxx@xxxxxxx.xx jesse paul miller / bait shop, merritt island / searching for a quiet place / - unexpected sounds of this small shop, filled with convenience items, novelty goods, caged crickets and fishtanks http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm jesse paul miller / - / 2000-2003 / - edited from field recordings taken from nebraska, colorado and washington state http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm francisco lopez / live at the lab - hexaphonic, 08.05.00 / live in san francisco / 23five trademark slow build of white noise and unrecognisable tonal material, blending nicely with jesse's untreated soundscapes http://www.franciscolopez.net/, http://www.23five.org jesse paul miller / swamp at sunset / searching for a quiet place / - at the edge of blue springs park, insects sing as three small hawks battle overhead http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm gum / outfits for agony / vinyl anthology / 23five more musical outing consisting of tonal drones from sound captures and found voices http://www.23five.org eric la casa & jean-luc guionnet / track 3 / inscape / - second edit from the installation, this time grittier and wetter http://ascendre.free.fr, xxxxxxxx.xxxx-xxx@xxxxxxx.xx jesse paul miller / night insects / searching for a quiet place / - strange insect noises captured on a winter night after a downpour http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm jean-luc guionnet / - / triangles de poussieres / - first of three parts from this unreleased solo electro-acoustic work xxxxxxxx.xxxx-xxx@xxxxxxx.xx jesse paul miller / footsteps: north central florida / 2000-2003 / - soundwalk collage made during a residency at the atlantic center for the arts, new smyrna, fl http://www.gogoweb.com/jpm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_wgjPqf5//fqa6OCZAUyzUQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 15 16:13:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34440-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 73913 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:13:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 73903 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:13:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:13:48 -0800 (PST) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audacity not there In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=sCkSrZbnlY+X3ZN0YGH78G2RdoblVx9MEgwS7WhXysUm/LuJ3OsFj3n66P/ThNsNqwCgOgFXwWIGC4SibcC0IOPba0Yu8Voit1qnYUj05Xp47/YLzWfBFcspcGC7AITgXH+IeOrVznhK3HO05FNSmpRXPZ4TBppES9bBUzVKojc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i was excited about audacity and still think it works fairly well having established the buggy limits. i still cannot save projects in it and have them remain retrievable. it breaks down the project into multiple smaller files and it may be an issue with windows but it will never reopen the files claiming that it doesn't recoginize them (and i have tried changing file extensions etc)--maddening. I've not used it yet beyond 6 tracks but I always do the project in one sitting and export it. many on the fx plug-ins don't work that well but a few that do are actually very nice. the denoiser is great. --- tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > i was using audacity to do some sound design for a > piece. and i have to say, though it supposedly can > handle having limitless tracks going on, this is > really not the case. more then four in one file and > you run into trouble --sometimes commands wouldn't > register, etc, etc. (i am working on osx 867 600+ > ram) > While good for making mp3's (better codec then > itunes), it is not really up to the task of solid > editing -- particularly where you need to work with > a > large number of different sounds in a sequence, and > don't have the time to struggle with its buggy > slow-downs. but I like the amplification feature > (automatically gains to point before clipping) and > the > mp3's it generates are the best. > > -afs > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 15 05:46:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34439-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30286 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:46:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 30276 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:46:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:45:52 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audacity not there In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 14, 2005, at 9:15 PM, tasty radish wrote: > it is not really up to the task of solid > editing -- particularly where you need to work with a > large number of different sounds in a sequence, and > don't have the time to struggle with its buggy > slow-downs. Works fine for me (1.25GHz Albook w/ 10.3.8). > but I like the amplification feature > (automatically gains to point before clipping) This is the same as the normalize feature that all wave editors have. > and the > mp3's it generates are the best. I'm not sure about that. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 15 02:15:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34438-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45270 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:15:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 45259 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:15:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:15:49 -0800 (PST) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audacity not there In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=M8RcZudXcdxYVcttbtVvtbjgatGtVBWkunE/xJWyYReLg6cMIJvD6GNd+PdFQrD96nZR3bC+ROekVg3t4GSrh9pYD6QGdJLwKHlA7LGLVGVjuKFxP5EVBuePmX1JXh/iaVxxNJoTsphno4kvBra6utjMbf6V1glPGcXxNaqzLgo= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i was using audacity to do some sound design for a piece. and i have to say, though it supposedly can handle having limitless tracks going on, this is really not the case. more then four in one file and you run into trouble --sometimes commands wouldn't register, etc, etc. (i am working on osx 867 600+ ram) While good for making mp3's (better codec then itunes), it is not really up to the task of solid editing -- particularly where you need to work with a large number of different sounds in a sequence, and don't have the time to struggle with its buggy slow-downs. but I like the amplification feature (automatically gains to point before clipping) and the mp3's it generates are the best. -afs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Feb 14 22:30:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34437-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16518 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:29:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 16508 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:29:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:34:34 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Berlin.Soundscape-FM.Net achive online To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://berlin.soundscape-fm.net/ Berlin.Soundscape-FM is a collaborative soundwork in the city of Berlin, produced at the Transmediale Festival, 4-8 February 2005. During these four days, sound artists, amateur sound hunters, phonographers and other interested participants collaborated on gathering sounds from different locations within the city of Berlin. The collected sounds ranged from the ever-present crosswalk signals, children's voices and U-Bahn wires to the acoustics of former CIA spy stations, empty theatres and the "Memory Void" of the Jewish Museum. All of the sounds have been plotted out on a scalable map of Berlin which remains open to further contribution, making it a vital ongoing collaboration and online community. For more info, please visit: http://berlin.soundscape-fm.net/ http://www.soundscape-fm.net/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 22:09:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34436-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2811 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:09:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 2795 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:09:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:09:04 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] small label deals To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c512e1$ccd61190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <015b01c512cc$d03834e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You can couch it in terms of art (and if its artistically good enough it will shine and people will want it) You can couch it in terms of commercialism (and if you create a sense that the music is a necessary part of people's lives they should buy it) You can couch it in terms of altruistic love (and do it because you love the medium and want to share) You can couch it in terms of arrogance and narcissistic focus (and release it because you want everyone to feel you are important and cool) Or you can just release it because it feels like a satisfactory end point to a lot of hard work and you promised yourself you would do it because you wanted to see that you could (and you can) David @ Audiobulb ----- Original Message ----- From: "derek holzer" <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] small label deals > To add another dimension here, consider this: > > After conversations with several small-label owners and self-releasing > artists, I've drawn the conclusion that most of these ventures are pretty > much just self-sustaining. After the costs of producing and promoting the > release, anything that comes back turns into seed capital for the next > release. > > So for me, the question is of intention. If the intent is to put more > physical merchandise into the world, then this is probably still a good > way to go. But what is the point of that merchandise? No one's going to > make any money on it in the long run. To me, a CD is just a method of > distributing content, something like a calling card. The only way just > about *any* experimental artist is going to make a living is through > selling their time and prescence through commissions, lectures, > installations, performances, workshops and so on. [Or at least that's how > I do it, as a full-time working artist.] But certainly *not* from selling > CDs. Hands up if you know *anyone* besides Green Day that actually lives > on record sales... > > So, if the point is to get your material out there so people can hear it, > and from that make a living from personal appearences and so on, then you > might consider other methods beyond a limited-run CD release. I've found > weblabels to be great for this, as there is a minimum of money and a > minimum of fuss involved in this method of distribution. > > OTOH, having a great-looking CD out in the racks or in your hand to give > to people is also a great way of spreading the message. I really do wonder > if it reaches more or less people than on the web, espc considering that > there are at least 1000 copies of each 12K release [for example] floating > around on Slsk, Gnutella, EDonkey, Bittorrent, Hotline, etc at any given > moment. > > So, if you find a label that is willing to do all those cool things like > the artwork, promo and distribution, give it a shot. But unless it's a > label with some brand-name recognition, you might reach a wider public via > other, less costly channels. Just a thought, certainly nothing > conclusive... > > best, > derek > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 36: > "Consult other sources > -promising > -unpromising" > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 21:59:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34435-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94160 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:59:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 94140 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:59:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:04:07 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] small label deals In-reply-to: <015b01c512cc$d03834e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <015b01c512cc$d03834e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx To add another dimension here, consider this: After conversations with several small-label owners and self-releasing artists, I've drawn the conclusion that most of these ventures are pretty much just self-sustaining. After the costs of producing and promoting the release, anything that comes back turns into seed capital for the next release. So for me, the question is of intention. If the intent is to put more physical merchandise into the world, then this is probably still a good way to go. But what is the point of that merchandise? No one's going to make any money on it in the long run. To me, a CD is just a method of distributing content, something like a calling card. The only way just about *any* experimental artist is going to make a living is through selling their time and prescence through commissions, lectures, installations, performances, workshops and so on. [Or at least that's how I do it, as a full-time working artist.] But certainly *not* from selling CDs. Hands up if you know *anyone* besides Green Day that actually lives on record sales... So, if the point is to get your material out there so people can hear it, and from that make a living from personal appearences and so on, then you might consider other methods beyond a limited-run CD release. I've found weblabels to be great for this, as there is a minimum of money and a minimum of fuss involved in this method of distribution. OTOH, having a great-looking CD out in the racks or in your hand to give to people is also a great way of spreading the message. I really do wonder if it reaches more or less people than on the web, espc considering that there are at least 1000 copies of each 12K release [for example] floating around on Slsk, Gnutella, EDonkey, Bittorrent, Hotline, etc at any given moment. So, if you find a label that is willing to do all those cool things like the artwork, promo and distribution, give it a shot. But unless it's a label with some brand-name recognition, you might reach a wider public via other, less costly channels. Just a thought, certainly nothing conclusive... best, derek -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 20:54:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34434-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 62901 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:54:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 62890 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:54:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:57:44 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] the clouds' harp and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001d01c512d7$d4c55d20$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <001201c512d7$68d53900$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx oops it was not the good link http://ingallian.design.uqam.ca/gestatio/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 20:51:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34433-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61042 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:51:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 61031 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:51:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:54:41 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophraste_Peeble?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] the clouds' harp and other things To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c512d7$68d53900$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HLyJV4GTXX5H+A3QBvlivw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_HLyJV4GTXX5H+A3QBvlivw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I post this mail for three reasons : 1 - I wanted to share my tracks http://mapage.noos.fr/verchonfourgu only one now but other soon 2 - I'll be in London from the 20th february to the 5 march... if you've got plans for concerts, exhibitions, etc that should be great 3 - http://ingallian.design.uqam.ca/ateliers-u/ website of a canadian "laboratory" which works on the links between artificial intelligence, music, architecture... (in french, sorry) there are some crazy projects there : for example, a kind of harp that uses as inputs for making music the clouds' shapes, in real time... other things as programs that generate virtual architectures using JS Bach music, or cubic flying robots. maybe you already know that but if you don't check it --Boundary_(ID_HLyJV4GTXX5H+A3QBvlivw)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 19:37:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34432-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24106 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:36:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 24087 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:36:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:38:51 -0500 From: Rick Breault <xxxxxxxx@xxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] small label deals To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <015b01c512cc$d03834e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GZSeiuSgiFMtTZ7WVvm9Sg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_GZSeiuSgiFMtTZ7WVvm9Sg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks I'm searching for information about typical deals with small labels - if there is such a thing as "typical". I'm talking about a label that might run and distribute 1000 cds. What are typical terms? I'm thinking about issues like compensation to artist and licensing rights. At this level, do labels usually get to repress as demand warrants and keep licensing rights? Anybody care to share experiences or point to websites with info etc.?Any leads would be much appreciated. Thanks. Rick --Boundary_(ID_GZSeiuSgiFMtTZ7WVvm9Sg)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 19:15:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34431-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13049 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:15:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 13038 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:15:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:50:26 +0000 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] small label deals To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005101c512c9$91aeb6c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <00d201c512ad$d23a3780$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Audiobulb does a 50% split with the artist of net profit. In independent electronic music terms selling 500 is good, 1000 is very good and 5000+ unusual outside of WARP. David @ Audiobulb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Breault" <xxxxxxxx@xxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: [microsound] small label deals Hey folks I'm searching for information about typical deals with small labels - if there is such a thing as "typical". I'm talking about a label that might run and distribute 1000 cds. What are typical terms? Copies of Cds? At this level, do labels usually get to repress as demand warrants and keep licensing rights? Anybody care to share experiences or point to websites with info etc.?Any leads would be much appreciated. Rick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 16:19:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34429-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31374 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:19:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 31364 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:19:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:55:03 -0800 From: "[b) a d i" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008401c512b5$eed45300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the .ini file is just a text file so you could just make one and put it in the same directory as setup.exe on your hard drive... hope this helps b --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 16:48:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34430-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 45118 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:47:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 45106 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:47:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:47:57 +0100 From: xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] old software synths deconstructed To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Organization: waveform MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For immediate release In the beginning of the mass pc computer age a lot of standalone software synthesizers with a very specific interface and sound were developed. Nowadays software synths come mostly as plug-ins for sequencer programs as Cubase and Logic. Waveform presents 3 freeware softsynth deconstructions from the golden age of the standalone softsynth: 1. TS404 (a roland TB 303 clone from 1999) 2. Synthic (a modular synth from 1996) 3. Granulab (a granular sythesis program from 1999) download + more info at: http://www.waveform.nl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 15:55:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34428-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22249 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:54:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 22239 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:54:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:57:01 -0500 From: Rick Breault <xxxxxxxx@xxx-xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] small label deals To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00d201c512ad$d23a3780$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_azmHfOdtEN5k5ipHNZqmuA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_azmHfOdtEN5k5ipHNZqmuA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks I'm searching for information about typical deals with small labels - if there is such a thing as "typical". I'm talking about a label that might run and distribute 1000 cds. What are typical terms? Copies of Cds? At this level, do labels usually get to repress as demand warrants and keep licensing rights? Anybody care to share experiences or point to websites with info etc.?Any leads would be much appreciated. Rick --Boundary_(ID_azmHfOdtEN5k5ipHNZqmuA)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 14:34:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34427-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91443 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:34:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 91433 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:34:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:34:31 -0600 (CST) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for submissions: Experimental/minimal ambient and sound art In-reply-to: <BE357F05.34E2%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_x/ALP6GzKCh2tUQU3hz56g)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=HeACqh9B/fCBKXMfbEGk147AGJIJOkrDWMnWjQi3PdqsdiILKJoa4YVmmWPUx02/haUiARn4EhquzN54zpi+sUNNVagkCzlRZLlDtuhvXO+K/v/18eau6eZ8gKTnLJeDs34DZje5AgxmssIIMCxzlvlpT7SrFp10cOsU0gghIoA= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_x/ALP6GzKCh2tUQU3hz56g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK. Sound interesting. Please visit: http://www.mikamartini.scd.cl/Chiste_index.htm best, Mika. Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: Year of the Machine, a minimal techno netlabel is starting a new netlabel and hub for experimental art projects and collaboration. www.yearofthemachine.com/robotopera We¹re looking for sound art and ambient scores - full-lengths, short pieces, improve sessions... Just about any format so long as it can be released an audio recording/album. Please contact me at xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx if you are interested in contributing. -adam ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_x/ALP6GzKCh2tUQU3hz56g)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 13:59:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34426-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84529 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:59:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 84518 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:59:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:59:24 -0700 From: Michael Andrew Doherty <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI In-reply-to: <000e01c51275$b1b59c30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx My thoughts exactly Joakim- no luck. Thanks for taking a stab. -----Original Message----- From: Joakim Lindén [mailto:xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:15 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI AUTORUN.INI is as far as I know only there so you don't have to manually click and open the .exe - it can contain various actions that shall be performed when Windows notices that someone has put a cd-rom in a drive. So, that file should not be needed to manually run the .exe - perhaps there is another setup file on the cd that is supposed to be opened? An option could be to copy the contents of the cd to a new folder on your drive and try to run setup.exe from there and see what happens... Joakim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Andrew Doherty" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "Microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI > Any help out there for this issue? > > I bought some software today that I am trying to install. HOWEVER, when I > try to access the CD-ROM's "Setup.exe" file I get the message "ERROR: NO > AUTORUN.INI" > HELP! > > Thnx > -M > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 09:14:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34425-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 04:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71999 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:15:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 71989 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:15:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:15:14 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000e01c51275$b1b59c30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <NGBBIFNCKKMPEKGHNAHFKEMNCIAA.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx AUTORUN.INI is as far as I know only there so you don't have to manually click and open the .exe - it can contain various actions that shall be performed when Windows notices that someone has put a cd-rom in a drive. So, that file should not be needed to manually run the .exe - perhaps there is another setup file on the cd that is supposed to be opened? An option could be to copy the contents of the cd to a new folder on your drive and try to run setup.exe from there and see what happens... Joakim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Andrew Doherty" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "Microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI > Any help out there for this issue? > > I bought some software today that I am trying to install. HOWEVER, when I > try to access the CD-ROM's "Setup.exe" file I get the message "ERROR: NO > AUTORUN.INI" > HELP! > > Thnx > -M > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 05:20:01 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34424-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26683 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:19:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 26642 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:19:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:19:38 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] linux on a mac-mini To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ this can of course be useful for installing Linux on any PPC box --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 03:47:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34423-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2784 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:47:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 2774 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:47:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:48:34 -0500 From: SA <xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] pioneers of electronic music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > ----------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:30:06 -0800 > To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: pioneers of electronic music > Message-Id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > I'm sure someone has beaten me to the punch on this but here it is > anyway: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4486840 We should note that David Kristian 's 'Cricklewood' (1997) was a tribute to Lou and Bebe Barron. This probably remains his best known classic, among all of his experimental music releases. http://www.davidkristian.com/cricklewood.htm Sylvain Aube www.monochrome.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 03:22:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34422-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95525 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:22:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 95515 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:22:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:22:43 -0700 From: Michael Andrew Doherty <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AUTORUN.INI To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <NGBBIFNCKKMPEKGHNAHFKEMNCIAA.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_b/jah4aSxm+0fIdZfnP+Kw)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <NGBBIFNCKKMPEKGHNAHFKEMNCIAA.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_b/jah4aSxm+0fIdZfnP+Kw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any help out there for this issue? I bought some software today that I am trying to install. HOWEVER, when I try to access the CD-ROM's "Setup.exe" file I get the message "ERROR: NO AUTORUN.INI" HELP! Thnx -M --Boundary_(ID_b/jah4aSxm+0fIdZfnP+Kw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_b/jah4aSxm+0fIdZfnP+Kw)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 03:02:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34421-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89805 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:02:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 89791 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:02:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:02:45 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Call for submissions: Experimental/minimal ambient and sound art To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE357F05.34E2%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DIkLQ6OmdR3DnCaRYLfgTw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_DIkLQ6OmdR3DnCaRYLfgTw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Year of the Machine, a minimal techno netlabel is starting a new netlabel and hub for experimental art projects and collaboration. www.yearofthemachine.com/robotopera We¹re looking for sound art and ambient scores - full-lengths, short pieces, improve sessions... Just about any format so long as it can be released an audio recording/album. Please contact me at xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx if you are interested in contributing. -adam --Boundary_(ID_DIkLQ6OmdR3DnCaRYLfgTw)-- From ???@??? Mon Feb 14 00:05:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34420-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 41321 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:05:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 41311 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:05:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:05:10 +0100 From: s <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pd on macosx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi i´m working with pd , and paradidle . <<Paradiddle is a Cocoa framework presented as a Project Builder template, which allows you to create Cocoa applications that control Pd patches without writing a single line of code. You graphically lay out Cocoa controls, visually connect them to the framework, and then compile the application. >> http://homepage.mac.com/atl/pd/paradiddle.html my question is if one of yours are working with paradiddle , can you give some experiences about it ? are cocoa better for cpu than tcltk framework? is it possible to put in the resultant paradidle cocoa application support for midi ? gracias/thanks in advance saludos ------------------- sergi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 23:51:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34419-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34652 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 34642 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:54:09 +1100 From: jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] majorca building in hobart (aus) - sun feb 20 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this sunday, february 20th, down in hobart, tasmania.. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * m a j o r c a b u i l d i n g (melbourne) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * from 8.30pm at the hobart fringe festival closing party -- collins court (next to the imperial building) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * majorca building are a guitar-guitar-guitar-drumset trio (yes) who play loop-heavy improvised music, which typically falls somewhere between ambient, country and experimental traditions. the group's sound varies broadly, largely dependent on the surrounding environment, with most shows happening in unusual outdoor settings rather than traditional indoor club/pub things. majorca building projects have included gallery pieces, experimental theatre soundtracks, and shows under bridges and on the periphery of rural dance parties. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * you can contact majorca building: - xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 23:33:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34418-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25789 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:33:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 25778 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:33:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:36:19 +1100 From: ii <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] ii + ned collette + north atlantic @ pony, wednesday [melb/aus] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * hello! we hope you can make it to this... -------------------------------------------------------------- this wednesday night (feb16) at pony... -------------------------------------------------------------- ned collette (city city city) (10pm) ii (9pm) north atlantic (ex-2 litre dolby) (8pm) -------------------------------------------------------------- doors at 7.30... come in for free... -------------------------------------------------------------- ned collette plays oddball experi-folk with a kraut twist; ii bring you mostly improvised things of varied styling; north atlantic is a calm sea of guitars. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * for more information about ii, you could do worse than visiting http://www.users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw/ii-files.html you can also look here, actually: http://www.sbs.com.au/whatever/index.php3?action=band&id=69 ii : xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 19:04:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34417-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48867 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:03:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 48856 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:03:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:11:58 -0500 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ot new york city In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi there is a seasonal show on feb 19 http://www.seasonalbk.net/calendar.html margarida garcia + barry weisblat ( double bass + electronics ) matt bua + kevin davis ( suitcase electronics, toy, and motors ) ting ting jahe ( acoustic, computer, and electronics ) projexorcism ( multiple 16mm film and film audio ) yuko nexus6 ( recordings and voice ) free103 gallery, brooklyn. feel free to email me for directions. best ben ps- kims music - st. marks / 3rd ave other music - 4th ave / broadway On Feb 13, 2005, at 5:16 AM, cjw wrote: > how about for feb 18th - 22nd? > I would also would appreciate record stores, restaurants, etc... > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:24:43 -0800 (PST), jake elliott > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> hey new yorkers; >> >> i'll be in nyc this weekend (thu 1/20 to mon 1/24) - >> can anyone recommend any shows? i'm totally lost! >> >> thanks! >> jake >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > -- > +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ > http://www.employees.org/~cjw > +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 10:16:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34416-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54561 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:16:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 54550 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:16:47 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:16:41 -0800 From: cjw <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ot new york city In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: cjw <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mzAP2WET1seLSCeumrs9mm/IQPHgGqsUZmZVkwZ5AyPV0w6JkqxaMSttlGsZFYzh/ofVfJFQJHlhKFSVu8qFAWjh3p01A8T76Hemc2MlyMMCAMg76oiI3wrGtNjK0wogi2LlXwP4Swev4fha9i/Kn4NiRIEzKpz7L0ifttw02/U= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx how about for feb 18th - 22nd? I would also would appreciate record stores, restaurants, etc... On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:24:43 -0800 (PST), jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hey new yorkers; > > i'll be in nyc this weekend (thu 1/20 to mon 1/24) - > can anyone recommend any shows? i'm totally lost! > > thanks! > jake > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ http://www.employees.org/~cjw +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 08:17:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34415-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38948 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:17:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 38936 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:17:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:17:49 -0500 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.320 (mx2.b2b2c.ca [66.158.128.214]); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:17:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-5.90 required=7.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 41 References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > There is little difference between what a PPC Fedora user and an x86 > Fedora user have to consider when doing audio work. Gnome, KDE, X, > etc, aren't going to be any different really. true > Besides, how many PPC > users (aka Mac users in almost every case) would run Linux when they > can run OS X? i used to be one! > Not many I'd suspect, especially since many of the x86 > Linux audio apps won't run on the PPC platform. and why not? I have run most of the linux-sound.org listed aps on linux PPC. > If you are interested in PPC Linux, I'd suggest YDL just because its > so damn easy. CRUX is very bare-bones, but it can be a pain in the > ass. You also can't install it to an external Firewire drive > (easily). Ubuntu is lame (YDL is a better choice if you want an easy, > large PPC distro). Gentoo is fine, nice ports system, but it may be > overkill for most users. I'd suggest that since YDL is very > Mac-centric, you could install it and get all your video and audio > stuff working with little to no configuration. I had good success with debian and mandrake, too. > Also, since YDL is > Fedora-based, you may be able to use the CCRMA stuff (although I'm not > sure why I'd want all that stuff on my system when I wouldn't use 98% > of it anyway). CCRMA binaries will _not_ work, of course. you have to get SRPMs and recompile them all. Probably still better than hunting for sources one by one. ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 03:59:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34414-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92114 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:59:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 92104 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 03:59:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:59:26 -0500 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Electronic Music Reading In-reply-to: <000c01c51160$6d8ce510$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=B7uTH0VmibJZHBMpKAN6EEmHcBuhm57wQuQxFHp7RjHsbQ71zfgL5fYdnZGvlT0BvmPXlCN0ThtFM1Rt/eFLN8HiUbNZh7k8tMkJDT+mGjV/0IcrgtQ/8zzEKxY7Iw1lTfkteMLLTyDgT/0SLB7jSZqiuQfCLer/cdAtlVrxrfU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000c01c51160$6d8ce510$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:50:27 +0100, Info Intervall-audio <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hello, > > maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to read > (print and web) on electronic music? There's a new book edited by Christoph Cox called Audio Culture. You may also want to check out the writings of Xenakis as well as Curtis Roads' book on Microsound, which occasionally gets discussed here. The Sub Rosa a-historical compilations are quite informative in the accompanying booklets. AMM percussionist Eddie Prevost has a provocative book out in the field called Minute Particulars, written very much in an Adornoesque vein. You should also check out the books of David Toop, Kodwo Eshun, and Simon Reynolds. Other than that, check out the published work of many of the list members, including Kim Cascone, Glenn Bach, Trace Reddell, Tobias van Veen, Ian Andrews and many others. Do some google searching and you'll find plenty of work by these folks and it's all quite good. Electronic music is a broad category. What you want to read depends a lot on whether you're interested in more beat-oriented electronica or in the more experimental electronic and electroacoustic music. If you like any of the electronic Japanese improv, the three magazines on the Improvised Music from Japan label are pretty essential. Another interesting and provocative young writer goes by the name of Mattin. Hope that helps. -- It is part of the mechanism of domination to forbid recognition of the suffering it produces, and there is a straight line of development between the gospel of happiness and the construction of camps of extermination so far off in Poland that each of our own countrymen can convince himself that he cannot hear the screams of pain--Theodor Adorno --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 13 01:52:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34413-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58586 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:52:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 58575 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:52:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:51:08 +0100 From: "Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Electronic Music Reading To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <0a0501c5116e$a1b36310$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000c01c51160$6d8ce510$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, The things you talk about might be covered (at least for popular electronic music) to some extent at www.electronicshadows.com which is an EM webzine/portal with not only interviews with artists and record labels, but also other types of articles, especially in the Special section. Take a look if you want. Best greetings from Glenn Chief editor @ Electronic Shadows http://www.jarretribute.com http://www.electronicshadows.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 20:01:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34411-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57154 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:01:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 57141 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:01:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:01:00 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 12, 2005, at 12:28 PM, omjn wrote: > just to be counterinformative, but jack runs on osx, as can found > here: http://www.jackosx.com/ > > i think it's somewhat a shame actually, as Jack really is a selling > point for linux audio in many ways. > > i have, however, successfully used this to route and record audio > between sound studio and other osx apps, and it's no more complicated > to configure than qjackctl on linux. > > also, sooperlooper has apparently been compiled for osx, and will have > packages available as of the jackosx 0.6 release, whenever that might > arrive. similarly, a beta image of ardour for osx is floating around > somewhere. > > of course, all of these 'just work' under linux, but progress is being > made in osx free and open source audio software... I should note that Soundflower is also another alternative for OS X, and is very easy to use, if not as flexible as some of the other alternatives. It will work with some applications that won't work with Jack though, so its worth looking at if you need such a thing: http://www.cycling74.com - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 19:57:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34410-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55769 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:57:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 55759 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:57:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:57:34 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 12, 2005, at 2:54 AM, derek holzer wrote: > John Nowak wrote: > >> If you are interested in PPC Linux, I'd suggest YDL just because its >> so damn easy. > > Perhaps, but YDL has just about the stupidest licensing agreement I > have ever seen. You can download a CDR ISO, but you can't legally give > it to anyone else!!! I guess it all depends on your rationale for > exploring free software, and whether or not the software being > actually "free" makes a diff to you. This is true, but its still more free than OS X. There are two camps when it comes to picking a first distro. One camp says you should pick something easy, like Ubuntu or YDL. The other says you should pick something bare bones so you actually learn how things work, like Slackware (x86 only) or CRUX. Personally, I'm in the second camp normally, except that audio and video can be a real bitch sometimes with this approach. If you just want to give Linux a "trial run", I'd go with something easy the first time out. >> Also, since YDL is Fedora-based, you may be able to use the CCRMA >> stuff > > Completely & patently false. CCRMA is a set of compiled binary > applications for RedHat and Fedora, but it only exists in x86 form. I assumed that binaries were available for more than the x86 platform. Ah well. That's why I said "may". ;-) > Of course PD is one of the most versatile apps for Linux, even more so > because most of the development of externals and end-user patches > happens on this platform. Indeed. If I do switch away from the Mac, I plan on running a BSD system with only Pd and Audacity actually. For now, I'm still to addicted to Max and my iLife programs. I can get over the second easily (its just a matter of them being what I know and what I'm used to), but the first may take some time. Max does some cool things that Pd doesn't, although the number of things is decreasing quickly. I'm very excited about the future of BSD/Linux audio myself. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 17:28:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34409-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16554 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:27:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 16540 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:27:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:28:09 +0800 From: omjn <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi Derek, > Of course PD is one of the most versatile apps for Linux, even more so > because most of the development of externals and end-user patches > happens on this platform. But there are quite a few other amazing > Linux audio apps which are either very complicated or impossible to > get running on OSX. These include: > > jack audio connection kit > ardour > freqtweak > sooperlooper > LADSPA plugin collections > rezound > ecasound just to be counterinformative, but jack runs on osx, as can found here: http://www.jackosx.com/ i think it's somewhat a shame actually, as Jack really is a selling point for linux audio in many ways. i have, however, successfully used this to route and record audio between sound studio and other osx apps, and it's no more complicated to configure than qjackctl on linux. also, sooperlooper has apparently been compiled for osx, and will have packages available as of the jackosx 0.6 release, whenever that might arrive. similarly, a beta image of ardour for osx is floating around somewhere. of course, all of these 'just work' under linux, but progress is being made in osx free and open source audio software... -michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 17:25:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34408-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14133 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:25:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 14122 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:25:45 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:25:41 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LinuxPPC To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/LinuxPPC please add your expertise to this page? thanks! danke! merci! 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Sun Feb 13 00:10:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34412-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35297 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:10:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 35287 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:10:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:50:27 +0100 From: Info Intervall-audio <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Electronic Music Reading To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000c01c51160$6d8ce510$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on dd5108.kasserver.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-score: -0.8 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello, maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to read (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light on the phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, beyond the terms of likings and dislikings. Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and 'educated' electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from online articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even academic papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and understanding of electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and trends in music journalism and academic research. Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe even more challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable reactions in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And does electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of so-called "electronic music." Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. (Stan) www.intervall-audio.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 13:23:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34407-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65991 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:23:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 65977 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:23:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:23:03 +0900 From: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] listen field recordings mp3 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: takahiro kawaguchi <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TZ+VsTsLbzoLyn3JnbWv6oWX/ItIHkjEEs0Ns9EWZbKcBay6oC94E+By4vUQIjE4ign3xDzNoiDF/A0+AD6TXZdupV1AY1ttzMKZAhgdgdDSwK2nZzPqwLxQkaEzz1zDJl1OOTLJFTrkqVLinAI8fb9A4X9qYl4+2JkR7xpPPO0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello friends. Mp3 of new field recordings was made to be able to be listened on my Web site http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/. Please check and enjoy listen it. A present list is this. 1 hot panel (field recordings , mic on the hot panel) 2 ARUKU (field recordings , walk in the KANAGAWA JP river) 3 water touches balloon (field recordings 05 winter, mic in the ballon KOBE JP port) 4 darren mcclure and rere (flocking) (my field recordings electric mixd by darren mcclure) 5 justino ruidobello and rere (2 field recordings artist collaboration for cherry music) enjoy! thank you. _______________________________________ takahiro kawaguchi >web site http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~rere/ >blog http://port.jugem.cc/ >mail xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx >add 530-0033 1-2-271, Ikeda-cho, Kita-ku, Osaka-City, Osaka japan ________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 10:14:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34406-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32497 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:14:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 32487 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:14:45 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:15:55 +0200 From: Christos Carras <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx now, i may have missed the finer points of this discussion, but i do think it a bit of a dead end. is there really a point in sparring over what is better or deserves more respect? each kind of instrument brings with it a whole load of other culturally determined and determining factors. technology is not subsumable to ergonomics. technology brings with it a vast amount of culture in the form of implementing what has been imagined / desired in a social matrix, these imagings / desires themselves not being 'neutral' in any sense either. for example: the fact that people in our culture spend vast amount of time and money in developing simulations (from 'virtual worlds' to physical models of acoustic instruments) is rich in significance. so perhaps a theme could be how an interface such as this lemur brings with it a 'bias' to certain forms and modes of making music, and what that bias can tell us. the same could be done for the violin of course, as the instrument is perceived today. oh! and what about 'hyper instruments' in the Machover sense, in all of this discussion? tara, christos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 09:39:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34405-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26790 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:39:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 26780 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:39:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:38:46 +0500 From: Vasily Kuznetsov <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.81, clamav-milter version 0.81b on naumen.office0.naumen.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/0.25.321 (naumen.office0.naumen.ru [195.64.216.254]); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:36:51 +0500 X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-3.30 required=5.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx it looks to me that you're would be more inclined to respect the work of a person, who has spent his whole life mastering the instrument, more than the work of a person who learned it all in a week, even if it sounds the same. i'd probably agree that such devotion does deserve some respect, but if the result is no different, why should one prefer art that is produced with more labour? of course you can awe the devotion of a person who spent all his life mastering a particular instrument, but doesn't talent of that who achieved the same result in a matter of weeks deserve same respect? a good thing about technology is that it makes difficult things simpler and if the art produced with the help of technology pleases you no less with less effort from the artist, i would say it's a good thing. finally, if simplicity of the new tools allows more people to produce interesting works of art, it just raises the bar in the scene and drives the progress. vasily > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Ponto [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 11:53 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > > I'd say that these limitations and deficiencies in traditional > instrument design only add to the amazement that one could learn to > utilize them as gracefully as some people do. I think the easier you > make a process, the more you take away from the meaning. If someone has > to spend their whole life in order to to master an instrument and does, > that deserves much more respect than if you could do it in a week. > > I'm really enjoying this discussion. > > kp > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 08:32:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34404-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15628 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:32:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 15618 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:32:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:32:12 +0100 From: stephan mathieu <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] lemur (please trim your quotes) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <R02010100-1037-97EB03C07CD011D98DAD000D933B19D8@[84.132.126.54]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.1 (Blindsider) Demo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I'm really enjoying this discussion. ??! > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Sat Feb 12 08:06:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34403-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9280 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:06:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 9270 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:06:45 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:10:55 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? [Ubuntu] In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I was a bit anti-Ubuntu for a while, the least of which was because of it's Bennetton-porno, politically-condescending cover art. But I had to do a bunch of very quick installs for a festival last week, and Ubuntu really saved my bacon, so a less superficial reevaluation was in order. As I mentioned in the PPC thread, because Ubuntu is Debian-based, you can add some sources for regular "unstable/testing" Debian, and have a wealth of packages available, including a great majority of the apps in the Planet CCRMA collection, as well as a full suite of Pure Data externals. The installer for Ubuntu is actually much nicer than the one for DeMuDi, although you have to deal with some very strange idiosyncracies [like the way "root" is handled]. Still, for a single-user newbie who is not planning on running a production webserver, I would recommend using the Ubuntu installer and then adding apps from DeMuDi/Debian unstable. I have some notes on the DeMuDi installer here: http://umatic.nl/workshop/demudi_install.txt You can add the same sources listed here to your /etc/apt/sources.list and pick up the lastest "testing" Debian packages. To get the DeMuDi packages, add this line: deb http://apt.agnula.org/demudi testing main local extra But for now I would be careful of the demudi-config package, and also take care with the multimedia-kernel package they offer, as I have not determined how compatible with the Ubuntu system it really is. Expect some testing results for x86 to appear on Umatic.nl within the next few weeks, as I am really curious how the whole combination will work out. [I teach workshops regularly on this stuff, so it's really my job to know...] One big minus is that DeMuDi is still at the 2.4 kernel, which means that a lot of brand-new hardware [last year or so] will have sub-standard or no support. Ubuntu ships with 2.6 kernel, so it is much more suited to newer machines. Downside of the Ubuntu kernel is that it lacks [to my knowledge] the preemptive, low latency and user-mode-security patches which allow a properly-configured Linux box to soar in terms of audio performance. I'll try to figure out a workaround for this soon and get back to y'all. more l8r, d. Gavin Stevens wrote: > I recently installed Ubuntu Linux to compare against Debian (upon which > Ubuntu is built). This new distro is growing on me quite quickly. The > sound seems to work straight out of the box. I am currently installing > some old favourites like Audacity & X-Wave. > > For simplicity (at least, that how it looks right now), Ubuntu could be > worth a try. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 07:50:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34402-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5344 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 07:50:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 5334 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 07:50:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:54:26 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak wrote: > If you are interested in PPC Linux, I'd suggest YDL just because its so > damn easy. Perhaps, but YDL has just about the stupidest licensing agreement I have ever seen. You can download a CDR ISO, but you can't legally give it to anyone else!!! I guess it all depends on your rationale for exploring free software, and whether or not the software being actually "free" makes a diff to you. > Also, since YDL is Fedora-based, you may be able to use > the CCRMA stuff Completely & patently false. CCRMA is a set of compiled binary applications for RedHat and Fedora, but it only exists in x86 form. I haven't looked into Ubuntu PPC very much, but if you add some sources for regular "unstable/testing" debian, you will have a wealth of packages available, including a great majority of the apps in the CCRMA collection. > (although I'm not sure why I'd want all that stuff on my > system when I wouldn't use 98% of it anyway). Of course PD is one of the most versatile apps for Linux, even more so because most of the development of externals and end-user patches happens on this platform. But there are quite a few other amazing Linux audio apps which are either very complicated or impossible to get running on OSX. These include: jack audio connection kit ardour freqtweak sooperlooper LADSPA plugin collections rezound ecasound and others I neglect to mention because I just got off a 16 hour plane ride from Transmediale/Berlin to Santa Fe New Mexico ;-) I'l throw some data at the WIKKI with details later on. Glad to see a groundswell of interest in this dept! d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 12 00:11:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34401-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69801 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:11:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 69790 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:11:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:04:32 +0000 From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: gavmusic MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I recently installed Ubuntu Linux to compare against Debian (upon which Ubuntu is built). This new distro is growing on me quite quickly. The sound seems to work straight out of the box. I am currently installing some old favourites like Audacity & X-Wave. For simplicity (at least, that how it looks right now), Ubuntu could be worth a try. Gavin. On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:10 -0500 vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > OK- > > Who's using what distros of Linux for audio work? Experiences pro and > con? (Latin America?) European (Africa?) and U. (Middle East) S.? > (Canada?) (Asia?) > > <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 23:09:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34400-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37901 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:09:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 37891 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:09:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:09:24 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux audio PPC In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > a few calls for help: > - can someone help flesh out our Linux Audio TWiki page with some info > about distros/pkgs/tools for PPC/Mac? > - Debian or RedHat; Agnula or Planet CCRMA, etc... > - experience any trouble with Linux (ALSA, LADSPA) audio drivers on > PPC? describe problem and solution(s) > - post some tips and tricks on installing Linux on a PPC box and which > distros are best and/or easy? > - post info about windowing: Gnome, KDE, X, ?, on the PPC would be > useful... > - post urls for PPC centric Linux audio information... > if we had two or three people adding bit here and there I bet we could > grow a useful repository for PPC Linux laptop musicians! > KIM There is little difference between what a PPC Fedora user and an x86 Fedora user have to consider when doing audio work. Gnome, KDE, X, etc, aren't going to be any different really. Besides, how many PPC users (aka Mac users in almost every case) would run Linux when they can run OS X? Not many I'd suspect, especially since many of the x86 Linux audio apps won't run on the PPC platform. What might be useful is a comparison of the different PPC Linux distros, but this information can be found elsewhere. If you are interested in PPC Linux, I'd suggest YDL just because its so damn easy. CRUX is very bare-bones, but it can be a pain in the ass. You also can't install it to an external Firewire drive (easily). Ubuntu is lame (YDL is a better choice if you want an easy, large PPC distro). Gentoo is fine, nice ports system, but it may be overkill for most users. I'd suggest that since YDL is very Mac-centric, you could install it and get all your video and audio stuff working with little to no configuration. Also, since YDL is Fedora-based, you may be able to use the CCRMA stuff (although I'm not sure why I'd want all that stuff on my system when I wouldn't use 98% of it anyway). If you want to install Linux on a Powerbook/iBook, many distros do not support sleep and other such things properly. YDL makes an effort to keep all this sort of stuff working perfectly, and most of the time they do a very good job. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 18:27:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34399-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83425 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:27:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 83415 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:27:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:27:40 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] start of a LinuxPPC TWiki page To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx please add, correct, suggest, remix, blend, bend, fold and prettify: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/LinuxPPC --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 17:43:18 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34398-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64318 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:43:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 64307 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:43:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:43:09 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Linux audio PPC To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a few calls for help: - can someone help flesh out our Linux Audio TWiki page with some info about distros/pkgs/tools for PPC/Mac? - Debian or RedHat; Agnula or Planet CCRMA, etc... - experience any trouble with Linux (ALSA, LADSPA) audio drivers on PPC? describe problem and solution(s) - post some tips and tricks on installing Linux on a PPC box and which distros are best and/or easy? - post info about windowing: Gnome, KDE, X, ?, on the PPC would be useful... - post urls for PPC centric Linux audio information... if we had two or three people adding bit here and there I bet we could grow a useful repository for PPC Linux laptop musicians! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 17:21:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34397-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54326 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:21:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 54314 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:21:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:21:05 -0600 From: "xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird (X11/20041216) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.savantnoc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bananamum.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx FC2+CCRMA. Pain free, mostly. Good package selection. Apt based makes things easier to install packages and dependecies. Fernando does a good job of keeping kernels and alsa packages upto date. Agnula seems to have more activity with email and irc but, for me, ccrma has been a lot easier to deal with than agnula/remudi/demudi combos. ....steve... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 15:24:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34396-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92465 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:24:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 92455 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:24:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:24:20 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Re: cohort splits To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fK/GWOlbedO0k40wr+IZxQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_fK/GWOlbedO0k40wr+IZxQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you who have shown interest in the Cohort split CDR project I am imposing a deadline for submissions for the end of March. It can be extended but we'll leave it at this for now. John http://cohortrecords.0catch.com --Boundary_(ID_fK/GWOlbedO0k40wr+IZxQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 15:16:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34395-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88178 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:16:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 88167 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:16:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:17:06 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004501c5104c$bf6f79c0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > Amazing and awe inspiring, as are many human feats, and worthy of > > respect. But virtuosity is a means to an end, enjoyable in itself, but > > not to be mistaken for art. > > > > Indeed, I know several people who are wonderful players of instruments, the > violin for example, who cannot play a note without a score in front of them. > And cannot write anything at all......how are they artists? Sometimes we > confuse art with craft ! ? > "Architects, painters, sculptors, we must all return to crafts! For there is no such thing as "professional art". There is no essential difference between the artist and the craftsman. The artist is an exalted craftsman. By the grace of Heaven and in rare moments of inspiration which transcend the will, art may unconsciously blossom from the labour of his hand, but a base in handicrafts is essential to every artist. It is there that the original source of creativity lies." W. Gropius.... > > > > "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" > Henri Michaux > > www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 14:28:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34394-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65107 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:28:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 65097 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:28:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:28:40 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you really want proper geek cred, run FreeBSD and install Pure Data (and nothing else!) via ports. - John On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:44 AM, omjn wrote: > hi, > > for ease of installation and maintenance, FC2 running CCRMA is > definitely commendable. It might not have the 'geek cred' of debian > or slackware, but is very easy to install a low-latency system with > most mojor apps and get up and running. Just make sure you do your > homework on soundcards and system components... > > -michael > > s wrote: > >> i,ve tried Fedora core 3 with the CCRMA specifics audio rpms. >> >> you can found here: >> >> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html >> >> >> another solution is to install the rehmudi distro with fc2 or fc3. >> >> http://www.agnula.org >> >> >> best >> s > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 13:42:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34393-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47729 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:42:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 47719 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:42:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:42:35 -0600 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Call For Submissions: The Resonant Image - Stage 01 X-Originating-IP: 209.86.104.157 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002003be3266942cab@[209.86.104.157]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd482b79e356e91687cf14624e01c80f6b01667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx + [ also posted at http://www.stasisfield.com/space/future/ ] ++ Stasisfield and the Stasis_Space net.gallery present the call for submissions for a new exhibition of image and sound. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE RESONANT IMAGE : Contemporary Graphic Scores and Performances -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graphic scores are images created to convey instructions for the performance of sound or music without the inclusion of standard musical notation. The Resonant Image, a new two-stage exhibition in the Stasis_Space gallery, will explore the creation and interpretation of graphic scores by contemporary artists. In Stage 01 of the exhibition, a series of new graphic scores by a variety of artists will be displayed for a four month period. During those four months, another set of artists will be asked to create sonic interpretations of these scores. Stage 02 of the exhibition will present the best of these performances as downloadable mp3s. +++ CALL FOR ENTRIES: STAGE 01 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT TO SUBMIT: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submissions should take into consideration two factors: their ability to be displayed on the Web, as well as their ability to be used practically during a performance. Images should be accompanied by explanatory text with instructions for performance. Scores should be inherently flexible in their ability to be performed by as few as one or as many as ten or more artists. The more flexible the score, the better chance it has to be recorded by an interested artist or group of artists. Scores may take two forms: + STILL IMAGES should be able to be printed as a high-resolution PDF file, as well as be displayed on the Web as a GIF, JPG or PNG. + MOVING IMAGES are also acceptable. Again, practicality in their use during a performance as well as their ability to be displayed on the Web are the primary concerns. Acceptable file formats include MOV, MPG, SWF. Other formats may be accepted; submit a written proposal via e-mail before submitting your final piece. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT NOT TO SUBMIT: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do NOT submit screen shots of MAX/MSP patches or other software-specific visuals. This project is intended as an investigation of human artistic translation into sound of visual imagery that may stand on its own as a work of visual art. While software patch graphics or screen shots may have an inherent beauty, they are not considered to be within the aesthetic bounds of this project. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW TO SUBMIT: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + STILL IMAGES E-mail GIF, JPG or PNG files ONLY (not PDFs) to <mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx. If your image is accepted for the exhibition, you will be contacted to provide a high-resolution version of the image. Alternatively, you may mail a CDR containing high and low resolution versions of your image(s) to the submission address below (see Where to Submit). + MOVING IMAGES E-mail a PROPOSAL for your project. If you have your own server space, you may send a link to a finished piece. If you do not have access to server space, you may send your project on CDR to the submission address below (see Where to Submit). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHERE TO SUBMIT: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Works on CDR should be mailed to: Stasisfield.com P.O. Box 66 Evanston, IL 60204-0066 Web-ready still images and proposals/links for moving images may be e-mailed to: <mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBMISSION DEADLINE: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + The deadline for Stage 01 submissions is MARCH 31, 2005. + Stage 01 is scheduled to premiere on MAY 2, 2005. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your interest in this project, I look forward to reviewing your submissions! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- john kannenberg Stasisfield.com creator + curator [ http://www.johnkannenberg.com ] [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 10:43:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34392-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90554 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:43:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 90513 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:43:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:43:15 +0000 From: slow sound system <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [reminder] we're breaking up, cheapmachines, this sunday To: Ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Dorkbot London <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, DorkbotLondon-Blabber <xxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>, IDM <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, lowercase sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, foundry news <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>, Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Wire Announcements <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00e501c51026$7f796130$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2005 10:43:52.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[93B08CF0:01C51026] SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED THE FOUNDRY : 13 FEBRUARY 2005 : 3-8PM, FREE -------------------- 'Quality avant chillage' BBCi 'Unadulterated bliss' RESONANCE FM -------------------- WE'RE BREAKING UP )TWOTHOUSANDAND, ANTIOPIC) (US/UK) (LIVE) : shortwave experiments, electronic snap, crackle & pop CHEAPMACHINES (KABUKIKORE, NID NOD) (UK) (LIVE) : warm noise, field recordings and tape loops iMAX, ALBERT (GRAIN OF SOUND, KABUKIKORE, 8BITRECS) (UK / FR) (DJ) : digitals, soundscaping and audiocollage from resident dj's JANEK ROPINSKY (KLIKLAK, POP-UP RECS) (D) (VJ): digital artworks and flash workouts -------- Sunday 13 February, 3-8pm, free admission The Foundry 84-86 Great Eastern St London ec2 0207 739 6900 xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx www.foundry.tv xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net --------------------- ARTIST BIOS WE'RE BREAKING UP (TWOTHOUSANDAND / ANTIOPIC) (US / UK) (LIVE) : shortwave electronica, snap, crackle & pop We're Breaking Up is Michael Rodgers, multi-instrumentalist, free improviser and (with Anthony Guerra) co-founder of the outstanding London-Sydney label TwoThousandAnd. Living in London since 2000, he's now a fixture of the electronica / impro / microsound scene, with TwoThousandAnd really on a roll at the moment. Michael brings a sense of urgency and openness to his own musical projects - collaborators include Paul Hood, Anthony Guerra, Pedro Lourenço and Manuel Mota. Much of his music reflects personal ideas of distance, human relationships, density, and things that are invisible. Michael plays out regularly in London and has also performed in Portugal, Germany, Austria and the USA. 'Restless, shifting drones . a really epic feel. Excellent' SMALLFISH 'Takes the improvisation of electronics to a barren wasteland, it glows and flashes and fizzes to the end' IGLOOMAG 'Yet another fine, fine release from this superb label. Check it out' BAGATELLEN --------------------- CHEAPMACHINES (KABUKIKORE, NID NOD) (UK) (LIVE) : warm noise, field recordings, tape loops Cheapmachines has been in existence since 1997, acting at the interface between noise electronics, generative software, field recordings, tape music and drones. Stark, stunning soundscaping and musique concrete. '. some fine examples of extreme manipulation .' VITAL ---------------------- CHECK www.twothousandand.com www.antiopic.com www.a-version.co.uk/cheap/ www.kabukikore.net www.8bitrecs.com www.hardmanbros.com www.jayropinsky.kliklak.net ---------------------- Ends slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- ----- new! live sets archive w/motion, recon, crucial felix/timeblind, sebastien roux, adam butler/vert and more http://www.slowsound.net 'small pieces', every friday on Resonance 101.4fm, midnight-1am GMT http://www.resonancefm.com 'there is no hidden meaning', out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net ----- ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://no-signal.net highpointlowlife : bitmpapped indie goodness since 98 http://www.highpointlowlife.com sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.sprawl.org.uk frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 08:43:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34391-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55589 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:43:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 55575 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:43:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:44:10 +0800 From: omjn <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, for ease of installation and maintenance, FC2 running CCRMA is definitely commendable. It might not have the 'geek cred' of debian or slackware, but is very easy to install a low-latency system with most mojor apps and get up and running. Just make sure you do your homework on soundcards and system components... -michael s wrote: > i,ve tried Fedora core 3 with the CCRMA specifics audio rpms. > > you can found here: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html > > > another solution is to install the rehmudi distro with fc2 or fc3. > > http://www.agnula.org > > > best > s --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 04:55:13 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34390-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87498 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:55:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 87468 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:55:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:54:54 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm not one of 'those', I'm nondenominational... :) Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:55 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! ahhh... i see you're one of 'those.' now who's the neo luddite:) Noel Peters wrote: > You should try a pc instead... > > Noel Peters > > -----Original Message----- > From: graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:34 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > > > hear from an angry neo Luddite. > > i'll get back to you after i finish exorcizing the demons from my g4... > besides my oxen grow tired and there is not much electricity left to > finish this e-mail... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information > visit http://www.mci.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 04:50:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34389-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85262 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:50:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 85252 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:50:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:54:44 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ahhh... i see you're one of 'those.' now who's the neo luddite:) Noel Peters wrote: > You should try a pc instead... > > Noel Peters > > -----Original Message----- > From: graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:34 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > > > hear from an angry neo Luddite. > > i'll get back to you after i finish exorcizing the demons from my g4... > besides my oxen grow tired and there is not much electricity left to > finish this e-mail... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information > visit http://www.mci.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 04:34:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34388-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79690 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:34:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 79679 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:34:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:34:25 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You should try a pc instead... Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:34 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > hear from an angry neo Luddite. i'll get back to you after i finish exorcizing the demons from my g4... besides my oxen grow tired and there is not much electricity left to finish this e-mail... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 04:29:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34387-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76687 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:29:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 76677 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:29:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:33:46 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hear from an angry neo Luddite. i'll get back to you after i finish exorcizing the demons from my g4... besides my oxen grow tired and there is not much electricity left to finish this e-mail... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 04:00:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34386-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66262 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:00:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 66252 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:00:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:00:26 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would call that statement the kind of illogical comparison you might hear from an angry neo Luddite. That argument is an illogical syllogism - I am saying that some technology can provide for less difficult ways of making art. I am not saying that all technology makes every experience or everything better. As it happens, for some people in vitro fertilization is more effective than fucking. Perhaps for some reproductive biologists it might be more enjoyable. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 2:57 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! the same philosophy would hold in vitro fetertilization as more 'progressive' than actual fucking. Noel Peters wrote: > This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: > the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value > to the art camp. > > Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic > instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be > constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous > learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped hands > and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations seem > to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. > > They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble > aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help > seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality limiting > to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. > > Noel Peters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 03:53:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34385-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63666 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:53:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 63656 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:53:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:57:18 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the same philosophy would hold in vitro fetertilization as more 'progressive' than actual fucking. Noel Peters wrote: > This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: > the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value > to the art camp. > > Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic > instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be > constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous > learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped hands > and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations seem > to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. > > They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble > aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help > seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality limiting > to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. > > Noel Peters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 03:41:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34384-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58263 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:41:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 58243 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:41:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:41:35 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I see your point too, although I still can't reconcile some kind of false limitation being put on ease of attaining the outcome. I think the way to address the risk of meaningless from saturation is to listen carefully. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Ponto [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 1:40 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! I see your point. Though, in many cases, it entirely true that a difficult process does indeed add to art, as with anything. Nobody give's a hoot if you climb your stairs, but climb Mt. Everest and you'll get press, just as playing Beethoven on the kazoo (kitsch factor aside) is no match for Beethoven on piano. Though I disagree with the school that subscribes to process over product (as many modern electronic pieces seem to do eagerly), I think the more difficult something is, the more impressive it's achievement. All of this is only valid within reason, of course. Suggesting that we try to make the instruments as difficult as possible is nonsense as you stated. The goal is not to eliminate the possibility of art entirely, or to all but a handful of people on the planet. The goal, I think, is to reach a balance of difficulty with possibility so as to not render art impossible, but not render it so possible that it becomes meaningless through saturation. kp On Feb 10, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Noel Peters wrote: >> So is art reduced to craft when skilled manual use of tools are >> involved? If that's the case, then there's a lot less art and a lot >> more craft out there than I thought. Since the sound is the art, how > is >> the person directly creating the sound not an artist? See below for >> some elaboration on this. > > > There might be a lot more craft than art about depending on your taste. > :) > > The person is the artist but the process of creating the art does not > have any intrinsic aesthetic content. That is, the difficulty of the > instrument is an absurd criteria on which to base aesthetic value. > Taken > to its logical extreme, we would then be forced to conclude that the > harder an instrument is to master the better is the art. Therefore in > order to make the best art we should make the instruments as primitive > and difficult as possible. Which is nonsense. And therefore ascribing > technique to the realm of aesthetics is also nonsense. :) > > > Noel Peters > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 02:42:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34383-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34804 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:42:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 34794 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:42:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:51:33 -0800 From: nathand <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx slackware - slackware.com check out www.audioslack.com its recommended you recompile your kernel with the low latency patch, then recompile alsa and jack with cpu optimizations for speed. ...using rosegarden, csound + jcsound, ecasound, and audacity plus a few usb midi controllers on a 2.4ghz laptop. vze26m98 wrote: >OK- > >Who's using what distros of Linux for audio work? Experiences pro and >con? (Latin America?) European (Africa?) and U. (Middle East) S.? >(Canada?) (Asia?) > ><xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 02:40:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34382-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32788 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:40:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 32778 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:40:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:39:59 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I see your point. Though, in many cases, it entirely true that a difficult process does indeed add to art, as with anything. Nobody give's a hoot if you climb your stairs, but climb Mt. Everest and you'll get press, just as playing Beethoven on the kazoo (kitsch factor aside) is no match for Beethoven on piano. Though I disagree with the school that subscribes to process over product (as many modern electronic pieces seem to do eagerly), I think the more difficult something is, the more impressive it's achievement. All of this is only valid within reason, of course. Suggesting that we try to make the instruments as difficult as possible is nonsense as you stated. The goal is not to eliminate the possibility of art entirely, or to all but a handful of people on the planet. The goal, I think, is to reach a balance of difficulty with possibility so as to not render art impossible, but not render it so possible that it becomes meaningless through saturation. kp On Feb 10, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Noel Peters wrote: >> So is art reduced to craft when skilled manual use of tools are >> involved? If that's the case, then there's a lot less art and a lot >> more craft out there than I thought. Since the sound is the art, how > is >> the person directly creating the sound not an artist? See below for >> some elaboration on this. > > > There might be a lot more craft than art about depending on your taste. > :) > > The person is the artist but the process of creating the art does not > have any intrinsic aesthetic content. That is, the difficulty of the > instrument is an absurd criteria on which to base aesthetic value. > Taken > to its logical extreme, we would then be forced to conclude that the > harder an instrument is to master the better is the art. Therefore in > order to make the best art we should make the instruments as primitive > and difficult as possible. Which is nonsense. And therefore ascribing > technique to the realm of aesthetics is also nonsense. :) > > > Noel Peters > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 01:57:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34381-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11387 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:57:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 11375 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:57:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:57:10 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > So is art reduced to craft when skilled manual use of tools are > involved? If that's the case, then there's a lot less art and a lot > more craft out there than I thought. Since the sound is the art, how is > the person directly creating the sound not an artist? See below for > some elaboration on this. There might be a lot more craft than art about depending on your taste. :) The person is the artist but the process of creating the art does not have any intrinsic aesthetic content. That is, the difficulty of the instrument is an absurd criteria on which to base aesthetic value. Taken to its logical extreme, we would then be forced to conclude that the harder an instrument is to master the better is the art. Therefore in order to make the best art we should make the instruments as primitive and difficult as possible. Which is nonsense. And therefore ascribing technique to the realm of aesthetics is also nonsense. :) Noel Peters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 01:39:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34380-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2893 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:39:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 2882 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:39:17 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:39:04 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > The sound is the art, the virtuosity is the skilled manual use of a > pre-industrial tool. So is art reduced to craft when skilled manual use of tools are involved? If that's the case, then there's a lot less art and a lot more craft out there than I thought. Since the sound is the art, how is the person directly creating the sound not an artist? See below for some elaboration on this. > every person you know who likes music can read music ? of course not... and I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate? > Not every person who > can play an instrument is an "artist" , are you suggesting they are? They produce art, why wouldn't they be? Do you suggest that since someone else wrote the score, the musician isn't responsible for producing the art? If this is the case, what if I gave a musician broader guidelines than a traditional score, like, "Play this sequence of notes at any tempo you like." or "Play something in G."? Who is then responsible for the art that is produced? > I know lots of > shit musicians, myself included , I would not suggest that they are all > Beethovens. A shit artist is still an artist, and if Beethoven is the bar one must reach to be considered an artist, then I'm not sure there are any artists on this list ;) Perhaps our definitions of "artist" differ. I would say that an artist is someone that produces art, regardless of what triggers it, be it a score or someone saying "Play something in G" or something they see on the street that sparks an idea. It's just different levels of influence, in my opinion. kp On Feb 10, 2005, at 5:15 PM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > In a message dated 11/02/2005 01:10:25 GMT Standard Time, > xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: > >> So, is the art the score or the sound that comes from the violin? If >> it >> is just the score, why do we need to play it? If it is the sound >> coming >> from the violin, the player interprets the score to produce the art, >> and is thusly an artist. Give the same score to several different >> violinists and you'll end up with several different pieces of music. >> The score just serves as a template for the musician to interpret. >> > > They can > all interpret scores and place a bit of themselves in there? > > > > > "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" > Henri Michaux > > www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 01:15:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34379-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 90409 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:15:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 90399 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:15:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:15:02 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PHsfYOO4CmHAXpYiIk1iFA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_PHsfYOO4CmHAXpYiIk1iFA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/02/2005 01:10:25 GMT Standard Time, xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: > So, is the art the score or the sound that comes from the violin? If it > is just the score, why do we need to play it? If it is the sound coming > from the violin, the player interprets the score to produce the art, > and is thusly an artist. Give the same score to several different > violinists and you'll end up with several different pieces of music. > The score just serves as a template for the musician to interpret. > every person you know who likes music can read music ? Not every person who can play an instrument is an "artist" , are you suggesting they are? They can all interpret scores and place a bit of themselves in there? I know lots of shit musicians, myself included , I would not suggest that they are all Beethovens. "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/ --Boundary_(ID_PHsfYOO4CmHAXpYiIk1iFA)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 01:12:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34378-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87869 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:12:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 87849 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:12:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:11:59 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The sound is the art, the virtuosity is the skilled manual use of a pre-industrial tool. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Ponto [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 12:10 PM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! So, is the art the score or the sound that comes from the violin? If it is just the score, why do we need to play it? If it is the sound coming from the violin, the player interprets the score to produce the art, and is thusly an artist. Give the same score to several different violinists and you'll end up with several different pieces of music. The score just serves as a template for the musician to interpret. kp > Indeed, I know several people who are wonderful players of > instruments, the > violin for example, who cannot play a note without a score in front of > them. > And cannot write anything at all......how are they artists? Sometimes > we > confuse art with craft ! ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 01:10:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34377-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86376 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:10:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 86366 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:10:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:09:57 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx So, is the art the score or the sound that comes from the violin? If it is just the score, why do we need to play it? If it is the sound coming from the violin, the player interprets the score to produce the art, and is thusly an artist. Give the same score to several different violinists and you'll end up with several different pieces of music. The score just serves as a template for the musician to interpret. kp > Indeed, I know several people who are wonderful players of > instruments, the > violin for example, who cannot play a note without a score in front of > them. > And cannot write anything at all......how are they artists? Sometimes > we > confuse art with craft ! ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 00:59:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34376-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 80553 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:59:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 80534 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:59:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tKghlUfYt9Oe2ePVJLoo/g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_tKghlUfYt9Oe2ePVJLoo/g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/02/2005 00:57:03 GMT Standard Time, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx writes: > Amazing and awe inspiring, as are many human feats, and worthy of > respect. But virtuosity is a means to an end, enjoyable in itself, but > not to be mistaken for art. > Indeed, I know several people who are wonderful players of instruments, the violin for example, who cannot play a note without a score in front of them. And cannot write anything at all......how are they artists? Sometimes we confuse art with craft ! ? "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/ --Boundary_(ID_tKghlUfYt9Oe2ePVJLoo/g)-- From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 00:57:02 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34375-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77927 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:56:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 77896 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:56:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:56:27 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Amazing and awe inspiring, as are many human feats, and worthy of respect. But virtuosity is a means to an end, enjoyable in itself, but not to be mistaken for art. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Ponto [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 11:53 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! I'd say that these limitations and deficiencies in traditional instrument design only add to the amazement that one could learn to utilize them as gracefully as some people do. I think the easier you make a process, the more you take away from the meaning. If someone has to spend their whole life in order to to master an instrument and does, that deserves much more respect than if you could do it in a week. I'm really enjoying this discussion. kp On Feb 10, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Noel Peters wrote: > This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: > the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value > to the art camp. > > Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic > instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be > constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous > learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped > hands > and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations > seem > to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. > > They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble > aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help > seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality > limiting > to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. > > > > Noel Peters > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Carver [mailto:xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 8:11 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > > Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of > pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on > a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, > training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a > violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging > with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply > doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this > point in time. > > - Scott Carver > > On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > >> Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw >> dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a >> musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of >> mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > >> honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with >> appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly >> in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? >> It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm >> sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > >> you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a >> "dead-ended physical instrument". kp >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with >> our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to >> "pushing buttons" >> >> This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from >> Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. >> >> Frank "RtE" D'Urso >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 00:53:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34374-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75163 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:53:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 75153 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:53:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:52:58 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'd say that these limitations and deficiencies in traditional instrument design only add to the amazement that one could learn to utilize them as gracefully as some people do. I think the easier you make a process, the more you take away from the meaning. If someone has to spend their whole life in order to to master an instrument and does, that deserves much more respect than if you could do it in a week. I'm really enjoying this discussion. kp On Feb 10, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Noel Peters wrote: > This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: > the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value > to the art camp. > > Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic > instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be > constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous > learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped > hands > and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations > seem > to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. > > They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble > aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help > seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality > limiting > to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. > > > > Noel Peters > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Carver [mailto:xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 8:11 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! > > Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of > pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on > a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, > training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a > violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging > with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply > doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this > point in time. > > - Scott Carver > > On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > >> Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw >> dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a >> musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of >> mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > >> honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with >> appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly >> in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? >> It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm >> sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > >> you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a >> "dead-ended physical instrument". kp >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with >> our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to >> "pushing buttons" >> >> This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from >> Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. >> >> Frank "RtE" D'Urso >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 00:36:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34373-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66068 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:36:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 66048 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:36:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:35:25 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01bc01c50fd1$b6c7dc20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx right about the history we have to put up with the damn vibrato. r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Peters" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value to the art camp. Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped hands and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations seem to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality limiting to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: Scott Carver [mailto:xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 8:11 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this point in time. - Scott Carver On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw > dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a > musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of > mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with > appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly > in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? > It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm > sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a > "dead-ended physical instrument". kp > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with > our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to > "pushing buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 00:31:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34372-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:31:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:31:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 61925 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:31:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 61914 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:31:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:30:54 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This view always seems to me to be a view that subscribes to two camps: the "standing on the shoulders of giants" camp and the craft adds value to the art camp. Instruments comprise of an oscillator and a resonator. Acoustic instruments are limited by the physical bounds of what can be constructed, suffer from appalling ergonomics and demand the onerous learning of manual technique. Some people with particularly shaped hands and bodies are either fortunate or disadvantaged. These limitations seem to me to be boundaries that instrument designers would rather overcome. They also seem to be boundaries that some people embrace as noble aesthetic parameters prescribed by some higher order. I can't help seeing this perspective as arch-conservative and fundamentality limiting to progression. Perhaps some people prefer to look backwards. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: Scott Carver [mailto:xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 8:11 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this point in time. - Scott Carver On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw > dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a > musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of > mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with > appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly > in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? > It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm > sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a > "dead-ended physical instrument". kp > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with > our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to > "pushing buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Feb 11 00:22:47 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34371-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55244 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:22:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 55226 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:22:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:20:09 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Elektronengehirn @ Dorkbot Ghent, 11.feb To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 11. feb Dorkbot, Visserij 107, Ghent, Belgium 20:30 http://www.nmn.be/ Elektronengehirn performs new audiovisual softwareinstruments whose sounds are derieved from graphical processes. The soundsource are genetic algorythms, graphical simulations and histogramms. The performer is more a conducter, controlling the generative pieces. Other artists on this fine evening includes Eva Sjuve with her performance 13 Volts And 1 Carrot, Rob Van Kranenburg on RFID and more --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 11 00:09:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34370-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 46134 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:09:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 46119 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:09:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:08:51 +0100 From: s <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i,ve tried Fedora core 3 with the CCRMA specifics audio rpms. you can found here: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html another solution is to install the rehmudi distro with fc2 or fc3. http://www.agnula.org best s El Jueves, 10 febrero, 2005, a las 10:10 PM, vze26m98 escribió: > OK- > > Who's using what distros of Linux for audio work? Experiences pro and > con? (Latin America?) European (Africa?) and U. (Middle East) S.? > (Canada?) (Asia?) > > <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 21:18:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34369-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26500 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:18:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 26488 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:18:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:18:22 +0100 From: rnlx <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at glasgow.scriptroom.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx debian, probably demudi (debianmultimediadistribution) but if you have no experience with debian yet you should probably try knoppix its also debian but comes bootable from cd and everything (even midi) is working right away... also have a look at jaromils http://dynebolic.org/ , its a great bootable lnx with lots of audio stuff... also the drivers work straight outta box.. vze26m98 wrote: >OK- > >Who's using what distros of Linux for audio work? Experiences pro and >con? (Latin America?) European (Africa?) and U. (Middle East) S.? >(Canada?) (Asia?) > ><xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 21:10:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34368-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20832 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:10:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 20821 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:10:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:10:49 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Aside from the lesser level of physical minutiae involved in the act of pushing buttons/twiddling knobs, it seems important that virtuosity on a violin is also the result of hundreds of years of technique, training, and experimentation... when you listen to the playing of a violin, you're engaging with that history as much as you're engaging with the physical process of playing. This is something that simply doesn't exist for Lemur-type instruments, synthesizers, etc., at this point in time. - Scott Carver On Feb 10, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Frank D'Urso wrote: > Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw > dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a > musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of > mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control > honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with > appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly > in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? > It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm > sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if > you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a > "dead-ended physical instrument". kp > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with > our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to > "pushing buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 21:10:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34367-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19707 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:10:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 19688 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:10:14 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:10:10 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Linux Distros for Audio? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1038-2643795C7BA811D99785000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx OK- Who's using what distros of Linux for audio work? Experiences pro and con? (Latin America?) European (Africa?) and U. (Middle East) S.? (Canada?) (Asia?) <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 20:30:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34366-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 93001 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:29:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 92983 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:29:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:28:39 +0100 From: Jean-Louis Huhta <xxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline problem To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list How come I get the message remote host refused connection at the hotline server ? best Jean-Louis Check this out !! http://www.idealrecordings.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 20:10:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34365-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81874 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:10:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 81853 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:10:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:09:41 +0100 From: Jean-Louis Huhta <xxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] hotline accounts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list How come I get the message remote host refused connection at the hotline server ? best Jean-Louis On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:01 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > the hotline server is up and running so I can once again assign > passwords to those microsound members who need an account > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > http://www.jeanlouis.biz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 19:42:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34364-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66843 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:42:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 66832 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:42:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:42:05 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=yg16r2mBc4BHiWzIrOU/C3kGHC/6Ld90z4dequ3MUQW+6aMKmC8NRmqO6OynfKUmipypJX7ffdavksMjH6urWEjoWS9lzultJ9kRmoQDgiLMYCwm4MqwusSDfxUPVRMHTYx5ghts3lB0St8tfuQS70IVlr72Sibc81V/fsdfyHk= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx keep pushin' those buttons frank. cheers, moxy ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into > this argument with our > ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air > organ to "pushing > buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of > Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 19:41:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34363-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65491 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:41:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 65456 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:41:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:41:11 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=MTKvX53LB6lTaOOg0DLaG2LleoAokhWPvJVCJ+/D3x0NCJTQRYpOV98qpDBYa1fCTEUkg4yMUVC6MLINfBQ8ftc/VWeIgdYmIK+6GAYFdbVUyR3+u6v9UmjguPd6kE1Pe7FVksNXW5g0ATMEBxiiBvZOfEvXIQualb34Lh/ovUU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx keep pushin' those buttons frank. cheers, moxy ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ha, in my first real band I often would get into > this argument with our > ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air > organ to "pushing > buttons" > > This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of > Roman the Edge from > Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. > > Frank "RtE" D'Urso > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 19:37:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34362-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63325 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:37:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 63314 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:37:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:37:13 -0500 From: Frank D'Urso <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a "dead-ended physical instrument". kp ------------------------------------------------------------ ha, in my first real band I often would get into this argument with our ham fisted guitar player, he likened my magnus air organ to "pushing buttons" This is my first post here, I'm Frank D'Urso of Roman the Edge from Boston. Interesting discussions, I like it here. Frank "RtE" D'Urso --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 18:30:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34361-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27713 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:30:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 27697 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:30:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:29:58 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] ' S T A L A G M I E T E N 3 ' In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be3158792e7e@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ' S T A L A G M I E T E N 3 ' final part of an electro-acoustic composition - Arie van Schutterhoef - http://knorretje.hku.nl/~schreck/SmietMP3/Stalagmiet3.mp3 Realized in the home-studio of the composer. Original sounds recorded with the BassBoxes http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/bassbox.html in the 'Veem'-Theatre, Amsterdam, during recording sessions with Hans van Eck and Hans van Koolwijk. Recorded different flutes on the BassBoxes, through extreme close-miking to capture the varying spectra and timbres, that were triggered by tightly structured pulse-trains, according to the Fibonacci-series. Sound treatment using different FFT-processes and cross-convolution. Used programs were 'Ceres3','MetaSynth', ' SoundHack', 'SonicWorx Artist' and 'Csound' running on Silicon Graphics and Apple Computers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 18:06:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34360-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:06:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 15726 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:06:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:49:10 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [promo] new ZBIGNIEW KARKOWSKI CD To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sub rosa new release info ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- RELEASE DATE FEBRUARY 12 - 2005 ZBIGNIEW KARKOWSKI one and many ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Zbigniew Karkowski Zbigniew Karkowski studied composition at the State College of Music in Gothenburg, Sweden, aesthetics of modern music at the University of Gothenburg's Department of Musicology, and computer music at the Chalmers University of Technology. After completing his studies in Sweden, he studied sonology for a year at the Royal Conservatory of Music in Den Haag, The Netherlands. During his education, he also attended many summer composition master courses arranged by Centre Acanthes in Avignon and Aix-en-Provence, France, studying with Iannis Xenakis, Olivier Messiaen, Pierre Boulez, and Georges Aperghis, among others. He works actively as a composer of both acoustic and electroacoustic music. He has written pieces for large orchestra (commissioned and performed by the Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra), plus an opera and several chamber music pieces that were performed by professional ensembles in Sweden, Poland and Germany. He is a founding member of the electroacoustic music performance trio "Sensorband." Karkowski has lived and worked in Tokyo, Japan for the past eight years, and is active in the underground noise scene there.Professionally active in contemporary, industrial, rock and experimental music for the last 15 years, Karkowski has presented works in over 30 countries in Europe, North America, Australia and Japan. For him, nowadays, it is the artist's responsibility to travel, to work and to settle down all around the world, in order to learn and understand cultures and traditions, and to find the truth about ourselves and our planet. This geographical, political and social exile is necessary to achieve true creation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- One and Many : an ode to loudspeakers These life conditions lead to a radical conclusion: the traditional definitions of music are irrelevant and music theories and music as a cultural concept must be destroyed. That is what we find in his latest works, in which his main concern is to produce pieces out of electronic sounds and acoustic walls on scores developed from the architecture of ruins. His last opus called 'One And Many' is the exact development of years of theories and practices. As many of Karkowski's pieces, this is a highly delicate yet physical work, which can be seen as an ode to loudspeakers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Selected Discography Phauss / Karkowski / Bilting (Silent, USA), Dry Lungs 2 (with CM.von Hausswolff, Placebo), Mastery of Money, Kill the King, Masturbatorium, Fuck (with The Hafler Trio, Touch, UK), SPL (with MAZK (Masami Akita + Zbigniew Karkowski), It (Mego, Austria, Whint (with Francisco Lopez, Absolute / Touch), MAZK (with Masami Akita, Tigerbeat6, USA), klr (split by Peter Rehberg, Francisco Lopez and Zbigniew Karkowski), ar.ms, Japan Album (with POP (Peter Rehberg + Zbigniew Karkowski) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 10 12:07:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34359-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 60072 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:07:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 60061 invoked from network); Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:07:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:07:21 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 09-02-05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5LZrBB5qxtVgwf6CU7+7LQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_5LZrBB5qxtVgwf6CU7+7LQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA, Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ Contenidos Onda Sonora 09-02-05 01. SCOTT TAYLOR Track: In Terra Album: Castaway Label: Con-v Nuevo trabajo a cargo del londinense Scott Taylor, director de los sellos Lapilli y Sijis, e investigador del paisaje sonoro de la ciudad que parte de grabaciones inspiradas en ambientes urbanos, las cuales monta posteriormente a modo de collage, en búsqueda de la musicalidad en cada pasaje. Escucharemos el primero de los 8 cortes de este CD-R que se expande a lo largo de tres cuartos de hora y supone su segunda referencia en el netlabel Con-v New work by London artist Scott Taylor, curator of two labels named Lapilli and Sijis, investigator of the sound landscape of the city, departing from recordings inspired by urban atmospheres, which are later edited in the way of a collage, searching for the musicality in each passage. This is the first of the 8 tracks in this CD-R that expands along 45 minutes, supposing his second reference in the Con-v netlabel 02. STRAND REMIXED BY EEDL Track: Left High And Dry Album: Strand. Guitars & Noises Reworked By 9 Spanish Digital Artists Label: Toi Thich Nhac Este fin de semana, como complemento a la feria de arte contemporáneo Arco, tendrá lugar el festival Decibelio, con un marcado carácter industrial y con actividades que giran alrededor del arte digital y la música electrónica. El evento es gratuito y convoca entre otros a Kid 606, Panacea vs. Needle Sharing, Dj Rupture, Squaremeter o Strand, cuyos sonidos son retrabajados por Eedl en este corte para la primera referencia del sello Toi Thich Nhac. Más información en decibelio.org This weekend, as a complement to the fair of contemporary art Arco, there will take place the Decibelio festival, with a marked industrial character and activities rotating around digital art and electronic music. The event is free and presents, among others, Kid 606, Panacea vs. Needle Sharing, Dj Rupture, Squaremeter or Strand, whose sounds are reworked by Eedl in this track for the first reference of the Toi Thich Nhac label. More information in decibelio.org 03. FENNESZ Track: Waueryn Album: VA - Spellewauerynsherde, Interpretations Various & Sundry Label: Bremsstrahlung Utilizando como fuentes sonoras diversas grabaciones en cinta hechas en los años 60 y 70 de canciones accapella islandesas, 10 artistas sonoros re-interpretaban esos sonidos para construir sus propias composiciones: Fennesz, Taylor Deupree, Alejandra & Aeron, Stephan Mathieu, Steve Roden, Nobukazu Takemura o Fennesz, cuyo corte hemos elegido. Un disco en el que también participa el propio Josh Russell, director del sello Bremsstrahlung, que ha editado esta colección de temas que puedes descargar gratuitamente desde su página en internet Using as sound source diverse tape recordings made in the 60s and 70s of Icelandic accapella chants, 10 sound artists re-interpreted those sounds to build their own compositions: Taylor Deupree, Alejandra & Aeron, Stephan Mathieu, Steve Roden, Nobukazu Takemura or Fennesz, whose track we've chosen. A record in which Josh Russell, director of the Bremsstrahlung label, also takes part. Free download in bremsstrahlung.org 04. AKIRA REBELAIS Track: 1440 promp. parv. 518_20 Album: Spellewauerynsherde Label: Samadhi Sound Akira Rabelais, compositor procedente de Texas que construye sus trabajos a partir de software diseñado por él mismo, con varios ejemplos hasta la fecha aunque el más famoso es el Argeïphontes Lyre, un programa desarrollado en los 90 que le permite filtrar a su antojo sonidos pregrabados. En este caso las mismas voces islandesas accapella utilizadas en la compilación del sello Bremsstrahlung, si bien es David Sylvian a través de su sello Samadhi Sound quien edita este disco. Akira Rabelais se reivindica como un compositor que escribe software y no como un ingeniero que hace música, comparando el desarrollo de software a escribir poesía Akira Rabelais, composer coming from Texas that builds his works starting from software designed by himself, with several examples so far although the most celebrated is the Argeïphontes Lyre, a program developed in the 90s that allows him filtering pre-recorded sounds. In this case the same Icelandic accapella voices used in the Bremsstrahlung compilation, although it was David Sylvian through his Samadhi Sound label who released this album firstly. Akira Rabelais claims to be a composer writing software rather than an engineer making music, comparing software development to poetry writing 05. POIRE_Z AND PHIL MINTON Track: W Oder Q Album: Q Label: For4Ears Nos vamos al sello For4Ears, dirigido por Günter Müller desd Suiza, un Günter Müller que forma parte igualmente del combo de improvisación Poire_Z, formado también por Norbert Moslang, ErikM y Andy Guhl, con la colaboración en este caso del vocalista experimental británico Phil Minton, para la última actuación del grupo, dos improvisaciones grabadas en Francia alternando capas de texturas hirvientes con silencios imponentes We stop in the For4Ears label, directed by Günter Müller from Switzerland, a Günter Müller that takes part in the inspired improvisation combo Poire_Z, also formed by Norbert Moslang, ErikM and Andy Guhl, with the collaboration in this case of the British experimental vocalist Phil Minton, for the last performance of the group, two improvisations recorded in France alternating layers of boiling textures with imposing silences 06. ERIKM / GÜNTER MÜLLER / TOSHIMARU NAKAMURA Track: Keburu Album: Why Not Bechamel Label: For4Ears Continuamos en For4Ears con otro trabajo en el que también participan Günter Müller y ErikM, en este caso junto al japonés Toshimaru Nakamura. "Why Not Bechamel" es una improvisación electrónica dividida en tres cortes que fluyen entre cambios de intensidad y ricos pasajes ambientales Still in For4Ears with another work in which Günter Müller and ErikM are also involved, in this case together with the Japanese Toshimaru Nakamura. "Why Not Bechamel" is an electronic improvisation divided in three pieces that flow between intensity changes and rich environmental passages 07. BURKHARD STANGL / CHRISTOF KURZMANN (SCHNEE) Track: - Album: Schnee Live Label: Erstwhile Dúo formado por Burkhard Stangl y Christof Kurzmann, que actuaban el jueves pasado en el Círculo de Bellas Artes de Madrid y a quienes volveremos a ver este sábado, 12 de febrero, en La Casa Encendida junto a Margaret Kammerer. Esta grabación es un documento de su actuación en la división berlinesa del festival Amplify en mayo de 2004, recientemente publicado en el sello norteamericano Erstwhile Duet formed by Burkhard Stangl and Christof Kurzmann, that performed last Thursday in the Circulo de Bellas Artes of Madrid and are performing again, on Saturday February 12th, at La Casa Encendida, together with Margaret Kammerer. This recording is a document of their performance in the Berliner division of the Amplify festival in May 2004, recently released in the North American experimental label Erstwhile 08. CHRISTIAN FENNESZ / SACHIKO M / OTOMO YOSHIHIDE / PETER REHBERG Track: - Album: s/t Label: Erstwhile Continuamos en el sello Erstwhile con otra actuación en directo desde el festival Amplify 2004, en este caso desde la otra mitad del festival en Colonia, con Christian Fennesz, Sachiko M, Otomo Yoshihide y Peter Rehberg como protagonistas, los europeos a los mandos de sus respectivos laptops y los japoneses utilizando varios objetos electrónicos de origen analógico, como micrófonos de contacto (Sachiko) y giradiscos (Otomo) We continue in Erstwhile with another live performance from the Amplify 2004 festival, in this case from the other half of the festival in Cologne, with Christian Fennesz, Sachiko M, Otomo Yoshihide and Peter Rehberg as performers, the Europeans at the controls of their respective laptops and the Japanese using several electronic objects of analogical origin, such as contact microphones (Sachiko) and turntables (Otomo) 09. POLA Track: Iris Album: Même Label: Plop Desde Japón nos llega una novedad del sello Plop, que ha publicado en los últimos años discos tan aclamados como el "Mujo" de Taylor Deupree y Christopher Willits, entre otros. Esto es una muestra de algo bastante diferente, sobre todo porque para componer este disco no se han utilizado ordenadores, sino hardware de síntesis, secuenciación y sampleo. Se trata del debut de un joven artista sonoro de Tokyo llamado Pola From Japan we get a novelty from the Plop label, that has released in the last years some acclaimed records, as Taylor Deupree's and Christopher Willits' "Mojo", among others. This is a sample of something quite different, mainly because to compose this album computers have not been used, but synthesis, sequencing and sampling hardware. It is the debut of a young sound artist from Tokyo named Pola 10. CARIBOU Track: A Final Warning Album: The Milk of Human Kindness Label: Leaf Cerramos nuestra emisión de esta semana con polémica, de alguna manera. Este es el nuevo trabajo de Dan Snaith, antes llamado Manitoba pero que ha tenido que cambiar su nombre a Caribou por problemas legales al haber sido acusado por el cantante de los Dictators, Handsome Dick Manitoba, de utilizar un nombre registrado. Se trata de su tercer disco, "The Milk Of Human Kindness", que saldrá publicado dentro de algo más de un mes en el sello Leaf We close our emission of this week in a somehow polemic way. This is the new work by Dan Snaith, before called Manitoba but had to change his name to Caribou due to legal problems such as having been accused by the Dictators frontman, Handsome Dick Manitoba, of using a registered trade mark. 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Wed Feb 9 23:28:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34358-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 69850 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 69837 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:30:28 +1100 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Melbourne: Uber Lingua at St Jeromes In-reply-to: <BE30E7EB.F58E%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE30E844.F5B2%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Uber Lingua Thursday 10th of February from 6pm onwards... St Jeromes 7 Caledonian Lane Melbourne CBD (directly behind the lounge) Residents Raceless (from Curse), bP and Saigon Sausage alongside: Early guest (9pm-10pm): Mute Freak Recently returned from a long stay in Europe, Mute Freak returns to his city of birth to engage is some sordid sonic happenings... As a composer "... Mute Freak creates a mind blowing array of messed up rhythms, noises and arrangements that present a new understanding of this mad world we live in..." He also DJs... Late Guest (11pm-Midnight) Jungle Party things since 1990; Dj things since 1996; Making partys, festivals & retreats with Psycorroboree since 1996; now run Opoeia Eco-Arts Retreat continuing to do party/festival/retreat things. Look at http://www.opoeia.com.au for more info on that... Music: Ecclectronica; ecclectic electronica, anything goes, and each track a link... Coming up many more guests... and the St Jeromes Laneway Festival on the 27th of Feb... look at http://www.uberlingua.com/melb for more info Demos can be sent to PO Box 2613 Fitzroy 3065 Australia --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 21:32:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34357-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3518 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:32:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 3508 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:32:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:32:28 -0800 (PST) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: Grain envelopes In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=exmBLeKKMIbgt2Hl04S+2+SkyKQHlFnLS+Vw6/I/EmtBDebft+FTMMp31Cs32t4jpHbxsLb9oTN6vDLcZbidE9YKt763/3zK0v2eMoLVeh48nBBjuupiZKd/FcE9ms5TsNjCCcWtNezCA3QKaKlUC015P5VIhNM1W6U7+Bi44N0= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx whats up with the neen stars. >? cukf colorado black mountains --- xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > > I think Nathan Wolek's site has some up. Check out > the patches and objects > he's got posted. > > /a > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 19:02:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34356-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21959 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:02:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 21948 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:02:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:02:20 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] re: Grain envelopes. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 156.56.138.145 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think Nathan Wolek's site has some up. Check out the patches and objects he's got posted. /a --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 19:01:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34355-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20734 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:01:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 20722 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:01:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:01:03 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline accounts To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the hotline server is up and running so I can once again assign passwords to those microsound members who need an account --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 18:57:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34354-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17655 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:57:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 17640 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:57:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:57:07 -0500 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] re: Grain envelopes In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 156.56.138.145 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think Nathan Wolek's site has some up. Check out the patches and objects he's got posted. /a --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 18:11:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34353-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92253 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:10:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 92103 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:10:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:10:38 -0500 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] ATTN: Montreal Max/MSP, Jitter & PD artists To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2FBC4E.1B21B%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi everyone -- For all MONTREAL based artists who work with Max/MSP, PD, Jitter or other software creations of their own making .. as in *making patches* or *programs* that are instruments, either for sound, video, audio, performance, digital or net-art, etc .. We are putting out an open call for artists to take part in the May 19th The Upgrade! @ SAT: http://theupgrade.sat.qc.ca Interested artists should send a proposal encompassing an artist's talk on their work, and details of a performance and demonstration of their software "instrument." A select number of artists will be curated to present their work in a round-table setting with separate performance time. Proposals should ONLY be sent here: tobias @ sat . qc . ca Deadline is March 15th, 2005. best, tobias c. van Veen Concept Engineer, SAT The Upgrade! Montreal tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 17:22:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34352-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54414 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:22:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 54395 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:22:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:20:09 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] live from altair IV: it's... 'the krell tones!' To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c50ecb$9daae5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > basically i'm on about the relationship between sci-fi sound design and > the articulation of techno/microsound as 'futuristic.' any input on this > would be greatly appreciated... Perhaps it would be interesting to touch on the soundtrack of Eraserhead (76) and it´s use of noise in relation to the overall sense of decay in the places picured in that film? There electronics are used to give a sense of age (in a negative context) rather than a sense of the futuristic as in your examples. This might lead to some interesting explorations on what sort of tone implies what kind of time. These soundtracks could be related to not only techno and microsound on the futuristic side but also to triphop which seems to disire sounding "old". Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 16:09:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34351-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17694 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:09:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 17626 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:09:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:12:04 -0500 From: doug van nort <xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Grain Envelopes In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 8, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Mark Griffiths wrote: > > > Can anyone help me? I am been looking for .aiff files to use as > grain envelopes in a Granular patch in am building in Max. In > particular I am looking for Gaussian, Quasi-Gaussian, Three-Stage Live > Segment, Expodec and Rexpodec curves. Probably a long-shot, but worth > a try!!! > > you should check out Nathan Wolek's granular toolkit for Max. in it there is an abstraction to generate the windows that you so desire. hope this helps -doug _________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 15:52:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34350-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7788 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:52:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 7773 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:52:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:50:34 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! (and air guitar) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c50ebf$1cf52f20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <003601c50e95$4c34eca0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000001c50eb9$16ed0d60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <001201c50eba$d0e965f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx th_ost; > sounds like an amazing idea for a controller. could also be interesting to use one in each hand, moving and pressing them to control parameters.. You might want to have a look at this site; http://www.nescivi.de/ Marije Baalman build the cerquitry for my own "midi ball" and she herself performs with two and a overall equiped with more sensors. Those controll a PD patch on linux which in turn controls a Nord Micro Modular. She performs live using those and I think the concept is very promising even if the results right now aren´t directly and intuitively understandable by the audience. She´s more famous for her work on wavefield synthesis. After performances she usually takes the time to explain some of the principles involved so if possible microsounders with a interest in controlers might want to stop by. Just don´t use cameras with flashes because the light sensors hate those :¬). > the air-guitar theremin idea is great, as well. i really wanna see a performance of that. I think the Theremin as a controler is a amazing thing for live situations because it´s so easy to relate to yet magical. Mine usually connects to the control pedal input of my Nord Modular rack (which can also convert it to midi). I´ve used it in club situations for such controls as the speed of a automated noise gate and instead of a lfo for a phaser and the responce is realy good. I´ve had people imitate my hand movements while dancing. I know not everybody here looks favourably on straightforward dance music but I think such a mariage of the old and the the new is heart-warming. Once I get the "pic section" up and running I might use it in that context too, every now and then. I figured out how to do slides on the "real" bass and those might be very effective on disco basslines too yet are hard to program properly in a sequencer. I fear it might need a fairly elaborate structure in some software modular to properly convert the data to something intuitively usable but that´s half the fun. 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Wed Feb 9 15:31:50 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34349-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86798 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:24:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 86788 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:24:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:24:04 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be2fdaec9d56@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <l03130300be2f0214b41c@[213.84.105.55]> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be2f0214b41c@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >this was just due to a sort of language barrier, -No it wasn't actually, just a nice attempt to a provocation. In similar vein as you regularly do. 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Wed Feb 9 15:24:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34348-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85918 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:23:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 85907 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:23:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:19:57 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c50eba$d0e965f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/mopcMMDX+n8oXfuTLoqwQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <003601c50e95$4c34eca0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000001c50eb9$16ed0d60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_/mopcMMDX+n8oXfuTLoqwQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thus quoth kassen: >>Suzuki did a updated version of their omnichord never heard of, will google! >>My new plan which still needs a fair amount of soldering is having a little >>object (I´m using a tennis ball) with movements sensors for one hand to do >>such things as struming and damping >>Because my tenisball/pick also has pressure sensors I´m hoping to be able to >>controll structures sounds like an amazing idea for a controller. could also be interesting to use one in each hand, moving and pressing them to control parameters.. the air-guitar theremin idea is great, as well. i really wanna see a performance of that. good luck with it, th_ost °°°°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_/mopcMMDX+n8oXfuTLoqwQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 15:09:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34347-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79594 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:09:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 79582 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:09:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:06:58 +0100 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c50eb9$16ed0d60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <003601c50e95$4c34eca0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx th_ost writes; > anyway, incorporating this into a guitar(-ish interface) at a more serious level might be cool. > i would suggest the option to have a set of short strings for the right, strumming/picking hand though, and try to built in some movement/picking/whatnot detection there. Suzuki did a updated version of their omnichord that´s not that far from what you propose. I was planning to get one untill I realised that while it has a touch sensor for strumming and a midi out it does not output velocity (??!!). My new plan which still needs a fair amount of soldering is having a little object (I´m using a tennis ball) with movements sensors for one hand to do such things as struming and damping (I have two axis there) and using a Theremin antena (finished) for the other hand for pitch. This will be the best fretless air-guitar ever, or so my plan goes. The only problem is that I´m currently borowing a normal electric bass and can´t realy play that either so this will need lots and lots of practice :¬). Because my tenisball/pick also has pressure sensors I´m hoping to be able to controll structures within the note in ways not available on normal stringed instruments which nicely brings us back to microsound. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 14:43:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34345-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64490 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:43:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 64480 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:43:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:43:43 -0500 From: billy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] interfaces In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i like the house! On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Kim Cascone wrote: > long url: > http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/musical-instruments/ > index.php#kitundu-blue-steel-1200-phonoharp-032291 > > tinyurl: > http://tinyurl.com/5wn6b > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Feb 9 14:03:51 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34343-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49039 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:03:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 49028 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:03:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:03:31 -0500 From: taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Lemur X-Sender: taylor%xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100511be2fc8083b7f@[10.0.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >From: john dred <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > >Yayyyyy >more electronic musicians who dont actually play an >instrument >yayyy yayyyy i had a chance to demo the Lemur first hand, and nothing can be further from the truth... the Lemur is the first instrument i have seen (maybe apart from the Continuum Fingerboard) that truely turns all of this crazy software we use into an INSTRUMENT.. i mean, do you really think a 12-note octave of black and whites is the best way to control Max/MSP? with the coming of new software and sound technologies we need new ways of controlling and expressing them.. and the Lemur does just that... it's something that will take practice and skill to master.. it's NOT just a korg Kaoss pad.. it's a remarkable and expressive instrument... don't be so harsh to judge until you've tried it yourself. -- .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12k | LINE | HAPPY WWW.12K.COM NOW: CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] CD: January [Spekk, Japan] CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] LIVE: Presences Electronique | Feb.18 | Paris SOON: CD: Taylor Deupree & Kenneth Kirschner Post_Piano 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 14:59:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34346-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72148 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:59:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 72116 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:59:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 15:02:56 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sonic interactions In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2FD6A0.58E8%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list, it might be of interest for those in London. A two-day postgraduate conference on interactivity and sonic art. Saturday 19th and Sunday 20th February 2005 http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/departments/music/ems/sonic-interactions.html best, Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 10:53:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34341-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 05:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86145 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:53:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 86134 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:53:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:52:53 +0000 From: msdm <xxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] call for tactical audio contributions for protest academy london inaugural lecture @elastic feb 19- mar 5 In-reply-to: <BE267006.B60%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2F9C05.8E1A%xxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_3kh7/8om7BZftJeAn0Fajg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server10.dedicateduk.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - msdm.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_3kh7/8om7BZftJeAn0Fajg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit protest academy| london inaugural lecture: ŒWhat are we doing? What is happening to us? What needs to be done? I prefer not to¹ We are inviting you to take part in the forthcoming Protest Academy¹s project - ŒWhat are we doing?(Š)¹ which will be take place between 19 th Feb 6th March 2005 at the Elastic residence, London msdm launches protest academy at the elastic residence for 3 weekends 19-20, 26-27 february and 5- 6 march 2005, 12:00-18:00 saturday and sundays. For the lauch of protest academy london msdm paula roush and isa suarez are issuing a call for contributions of tactical audio material with an invitation to participate in the public live performance /broadcast and recording session of ŒWhat are we doing? What is happening to us? What needs to be done? I prefer not to¹ This is the schedule for the 3 weekends events: weekend1: registration, indexing of incoming material and preparation of the new score 19-20 february 12:00-18:00 weekend2: live performance/ lecture ŒWhat are we doing?(Š)¹ with simultaneous broadcast 26-27 february 12:00-18:00 weekend3: exhibition of the recorded performance with score, sound tools and contributed material 5-6 march 12:00-18:00 We would be delighted to have your participation. In order to contribute to the project we are requesting: -copies of released audio material [historical or contemporary] any formats accepted including video [vhs, dvd, mini-dv,...], audio [vinyl, cd, mini-disk, mp3s,...] -additional material such as catalogues and flyers to be displayed and/or handed out during the presentation. Contributions can be brought in during opening hours or sent by post to ELASTIC RESIDENCE 22 Parfett St Whitechapel London E1 1JR (behind the east london mosque) T: +44(0)207 247 1375 and 44(0)7883008639 E: xxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx U: http://WWW.ELASTIC.ORG.UK map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=534444&y=181507&z=0&sv=E1+1JR&st=2&p c=E1+1JR&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf updated info: http://www.msdm.org.uk/projects/whatarewe.html Elastic residence is a gallery space for projects and durational performance. It was established in autumn 2004 and is situated in a house built in 1779 in Whitechapel, East London. For the inauguration of its first module protest academy london msdm will dedicate the first weekend 19-20th february to the collection and archive of tactical audio production followed by the creation of a new score that will be performed live and broadcast on sat 26-27 as protest academy¹s london inaugural lecture titled: ŒWhat are we doing? What is happening to us? What needs to be done? I prefer not to¹ ŒWhat are we doing?(Š)¹ is part of protest academy x-cUrricular activities an experimental de-schooling platform that will be staged next in Leipzig as part of the public art project Homeland Modernity (may 2005) when [msdm]+[general panel] will map protest and the production of urban space in the city. paula roush is the founder of msdm; recent projects include Œsos:ok¹ at Coleman Project Space London when the gallery was used to stage an emergency food relief operation, and Œbowville¹ a networked performance during which marian manesta forrester was electronically tagged and had 3 days to earn honourary citizenship of bowville. Isa Suarez is a composer/singer and sound artist, most recent works include Œà trouble sens¹, Musée de Guéthary, Hendaye, France (2003) and Œ4 key instructions on how to rob a Swiss bank without getting caught¹ (2004), as part of Hand Luggage at K3 Project Space, Zurich, Switzerland. --Boundary_(ID_3kh7/8om7BZftJeAn0Fajg)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 10:55:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34342-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 05:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 05:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88584 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:55:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 88574 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:55:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:51:23 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003601c50e95$4c34eca0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m4Vs7TeBcgaiu/mfIf46dQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_m4Vs7TeBcgaiu/mfIf46dQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit to quote graham miller: >what about incorporating such a device (eventually) into the fretboard of a >guitar... with mulitiple touch points, it would be identical to the way one >would normally fret... nice idea. made me - as an excursion of sorts/thoughts - think of those children toy-guitars, with (usually about) 10-12 frets only and a big button on each. could maybe circuitbent to send midi... anyway, incorporating this into a guitar(-ish interface) at a more serious level might be cool. i would suggest the option to have a set of short strings for the right, strumming/picking hand though, and try to built in some movement/picking/whatnot detection there. also a tremolo bar would be mandatory in some way (just as i would like a mini-moog with a whammy bar to it..., to excurse again) with some mini-computer on board (handheldish thingy, or a mini-motherboard custom solution) that handles processing/synthesis. if you choose a gibson X-plorer type (those huge, ugly heavy metalists "axes") there is even enough space for a 14" display...(optionally touchscreen) on a sidenote, marillion, on of my teenage shames, had these midi-gloves developed for the singer to asist the keyboarder. never actually researched any more info on how they worked, guess it was just ten notes to be mapped by some matrix to certain keys... saw them performing on a video only. guess options here are quite endless. speaking of all guitars, guess i'll grap my les for some "wankin"... th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° --Boundary_(ID_m4Vs7TeBcgaiu/mfIf46dQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 03:25:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34340-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28641 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 03:25:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 28631 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 03:25:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:29:19 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] live from altair IV: it's... 'the krell tones!' To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a tiny except from a rough draft of something i'm working on... it has yet to be refined... so bare with me... begin: ???????? The current trend of scoring science fiction with symphonic orchestras was not always the case, however. Some early science fiction films made use of a variety of eclectic electronic instrumentation, such as the theremin, to try and articulate this concept of ‘The Futuristic’ so central to the science fiction genre. In many ways these musical practices and unorthodox techniques were more akin to 20th century experimental artists such as Stockhausen, Xenakis and Cage. Other worlds and distant times would have a music far different than our own, perhaps even entirely indecipherable to our ears or breadth of understanding. What might this Future sound like? What kinds of music might these strange societies conjure? Would we even have the cultural codes to decipher meaning in these musical sounds, or would it simply translate as noise? Is such a Futuristic aesthetic even possible to predict, using history as our model, or are our efforts purely in vain, forever prisoners of the Present? And even so, what exactly is it about a sound or a genre that signifies it as ‘Futuristic’ in the first place? One such attempt to imagine these sorts of sounds was the 1956 soundtrack to the film Forbidden Planet by Louis and Bebe Barron. “Using no orchestral instruments ? only the sounds emitted by the cybernetic circuits they conceived, designed and built ? they created a unique and compelling score, so original that is was credited on the title as ELECTRONIC TONALITIES. However, its true musical qualities were recognized by the critics and the public, and it was honored by an Academy Award nomination,” writes filmmaker Bill Malone in the soundtrack’s accompanying liner notes. The score conceived by Louis and Bebe Barron was clearly unconventional: there were no harmonic progressions, hooks, or melodies; no identifiable metre, or recognizable instrumentation. There was not even any sort of obvious structural elements, such as refrains, choruses, intros, or codas. In fact, many would have argued that this soundtrack was not even music at all. If anything, it operated more as sound effect than music in the ‘conventional’ sense ? a trait mirrored in 20th century orchestral and experimental music’s preoccupation with process and sound unto itself. The story of Forbidden Planet transpires as a kind of eulogy for an ancient extinct alien civilization known only as the Krel. Like the character of Victor Frankenstein, their own doom was ultimately predestined by their relentless pursuit of knowledge and desire for mastery over nature. They had engineered the ultimate computer: a machine so powerful it could transform any thought into reality. But in a single instant the entire Krel race vanished from the surface of Altair IV ? wished away by their own inner id ? leaving only the repentant sounds of their restless souls, mourning their mistake for all eternity. The result is an eerie electronic ambiance of dive-bomb drones and sunken starship klaxons, swarms of percolating sine waves and swirling saucercraft, drown in the cavernous reverberation of some alien world. Without any real world referents, only the imagination can make sense of sounds so strange. In some ways, it seemed almost as if Louis and Bebe Barron simply ‘channeled’ the right frequency ? that transient space between life and machine ? and pressed ‘record.’ “We design and construct electronic circuits which function electronically in a manner remarkably similar to the way that lower life-forms function psychologically,” the composers explain. “There is a comprehensive mathematical science explaining it, called ‘Cybernetics,” which is concerned with Control and Communication in the Animal and Machine. It was first propounded by Prof. Norbert Wiener of M.I.T. who found that there are certain natural laws of behaviour applicable alike to animals (including humans) and electronic machines. In scoring FORBIDDEN PLANET ? as in all our work ? we created individual cybernetic circuits for particular themes and leit motifs, rather than using standard sound generators. Actually, each circuit has a characteristic activity pattern as well as a ‘voice.’ Most remarkable is that the sounds which emanate from these electronic nervous systems seem to convey strong emotional meaning to listeners.” Forbidden Planet represented a radical break from the traditional cinematic score, for it actually tread into the creative territory of what would later be known as ‘sound design.’ The boundary between diegetic and nondiegetic sound had been breached and blurred ? it was never fully clear whether or not the intrepid crew of the C-57D Starcruiser could hear the eerie ‘electronic tonalities’ produced by the composers’ cybernetic circuits and custom audio machines. In classic film theory nondiegetic music is the music which falls outside of the perception of the characters and events which occur within the narrative realm of the film. This kind of music, often referred to as the ‘score’ of a film, functions to intensify drama, emphasize or recontextualize onscreen action, as well as create a particular cinematic mood or atmosphere. It is generally understood by audience members that the characters in the film are unaware of this music ? that is, that it occurs beyond their scope of reality. Diegetic music is its antithesis ? it is music which emanates from an onscreen source, such a radio, a sound system in a dance club, a musician, or a television. Film sound theorist Michel Chion explains the concept in greater detail: “I have given the name pit music to music that accompanies the image from a nondiegetic position, outside the space and time of the action. The term refers to the classical opera’s orchestra pit. I shall refer as screen music, on the other hand, to music arising from a source located directly or indirectly in the space and time of the action, even if this source is a radio or an offscreen musician.” ????????? :end basically i'm on about the relationship between sci-fi sound design and the articulation of techno/microsound as 'futuristic.' any input on this would be greatly appreciated... g. 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Wed Feb 9 02:36:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34338-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4019 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:36:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 4009 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:36:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:40:25 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pioneers of electronic music To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx there's a reaktor instrument called 'krell' in the user library... instant barron. Kim Cascone wrote: > I'm sure someone has beaten me to the punch on this but here it is > anyway: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4486840 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 02:30:52 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34337-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 466 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:30:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 454 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:30:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:30:06 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pioneers of electronic music To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm sure someone has beaten me to the punch on this but here it is anyway: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4486840 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 00:44:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34336-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 44809 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:44:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 44798 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:44:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:48:28 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx it's not as far fetched as one might think... before MIDI tracking on guitar was any good, there was a really expensive option to hardwire the frets of the guitar so that contact with the string would trigger a MIDI event... you can imagine the routing and wiring maze in the neck of the guitar, plus the huge possibility for malfunction... not very practical at all... the only reason why i say guitar for the interface is simply because the lemur would face the audience, as opposed to a table top interface... a 'keytar' (think chick corea elektric band) configuration would probably make more sense... provided it's not used to play bad eighties fusion:) it would be so totally futuristic, it's ridiculous... g. Quintus Frimschlowder wrote: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:58:29 +0100, Everyone wrote: > > A bunch of noise about arbitrary definitions to a bunch of words. > > Though I like Graham's idea about the MIDI guitar dealie. Subtleties > in the way one plays could tweak effects. Bending a note could add > more distortion, a hammer-on could automatically turn delay on for the > duration of that note, etc. Lots of possibilities. Configuration > interface would be absolutely key. Would be very expensive to produce. > Kudos to any craftsman / hobbyist who would take the time to build > one, though. > > Reminds me of the MIDI accordian than was recently put on the market. > > -QF8 > http://scatterbrain.raygunarmy.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 00:34:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34335-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38728 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:34:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 38707 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:34:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:34:14 -0500 (EST) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] PHONIQ NETLABEL LAUNCH FEB 19 2005 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx HERE IT IS THE INFO YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR..... PHONIQ NETLABEL LAUNCH FEATURING NETLABEL ARTISTS: bleupulp - live - Quebec City (syndroma.org, pertin_nce) fm_man - live (rave.ca) insomniak - dj/live (insomniak.ca) sarcastic - dj (level4productions.com) SPECIAL GUEST DJ: philgood -special detroit set- (inbeat records) PHONIQ RESIDENTS: naw - live (noisefactoryrecords.com) cyan - dj (modular systems, ckut) khanfucius - dj (panospria.com) VISUALS: delray - (rx-tx/asphodel/reflective) johnny ranger - (mindroots.com) SATURDAY FEBRUARY 19 le local 7154 st-urbain 2100 - 0600 $5 at the door http://www.phoniq.net/ *PRESS RELEASE* The phoniq collective invites you to the launch of the phoniq netlabel. over the past year phoniq has been active in canada's electronic music community, coordinating live music series, initiating country wide dialog through our mailing list and web portal and involving artists in projects and collaborations. now we are happy to announce the the launch of the phoniq netlabel as well as the launch of the new phoniq.net website which will encourage even more interaction and participation from electronic music artists. phoniq netlabel will release material online in mp3 format at regular intervals, giving exposure to the breadth of canadian talent. the label kicks off with releases from 12 artists, featuring the sounds of up and coming artists as well as those already known within the electronic music community. the launch party on february 19th will play host to 4 of these 12 artists. bleupulp of quebec city will make his first live appearance in montreal with a minimal techno set. montreal's fm_man will perform a live set of his dancefloor rocking beats, insomniak brings his techno infused breakbeat sound, and sarcastic will play his signature blend of cutting edge tek. also appearing at the launch will be guest dj philgood, well known in montreal for his unique electro style. for this event he will delve into the crates to bring us a rare detroit techno set - not to be missed! phoniq residents naw, khanfucius and cyan will be rounding out the night into minimal, deep, glitch and dub techno territories. throughout the night, vjs johnny ranger and delray will stimulate and intrigue with their diverse visual textures and techniques. *BIOS/INFO* PHONIQ [www.phoniq.net] phoniq is a collective working to foster collaboration and communication between electronic music artists in canada. phoniq.net is a web portal where artists are invited to join our growing community by participating in our mailing list as well as ongoing projects. projects include live music series, file sharing collaborations, and the phoniq netlabel. BLEUPULP [syndroma.org] maxime tanguay aka bleupulp is an active member of quebec city electronic music scene he fisrt started dj-ing jungle music in rave parties around 2000, then opened up for various electronic music style such as techno, house, idm, minimal ... his love for electronic music pushed him to start creating his own music, since about 2002 you can hear him playing live with machines and laptop. his music could be described as colourful, texturized and experimental. he is currently working on a few projects such as a net label, cd-r, and cd album releases. maxime is part of the syndroma colective and the pertinence crew, organizations that focus on promoting quality electronic music. PHILGOOD [inbeat records] Having spent more than half of his life behind turntables, Philgood has always given priority to music that takes the listener into new dimensions, stimulating dance, excitement, and an escape from the rigors of everyday life. Philgood has by now caught the ears and attention of electronica scenesters the world over. Through appearances at such renowned Montreal clubs as Sona, Circus, Red Lite or Playground, and via his performances overseas, Philgood has dropped records alongside techno luminaries including Laurent Garnier, Marco Carola, Richie Hawtin, DJ Rush, Sven Väth, Green Velvet, Thomas Krome, Joel Mull and T-1000. SARCASTIC [level4productions.com] This amorphous being has contributed to the subculture’s cabalistic causes on many levels for the past decade, performing at virtually all of Montreal's clubs and coast-to-coast across the country alongside techno luminaries including Frankie Bones, Thomas Krome, Slobodan or The Punisher, and minimal experimentalists such as Andrew Duke, Kero, Algorithm, or Deadbeat. Possessed since childhood with a needling drive to splice together discrete musical compositions, first with cassette decks, microphones, CD players or 8-tracks, it was only a matter of time before an unwitting companion introduced Sarcastic to his destiny in the early nineties: the Technics-1200. Since, Sarcastic has founded Level 4 Productions, a record label, artist collective and promotion company synonymous with the cutting-edge of techno. His love for the chugging repetitive nature of ghettotek, pure tek, acid house and hardcore genres remains informed by an early appreciation for hip-hop, stoner rock, jazz and psychedelia of all sorts. Equally at home behind two or three decks, Sarcastic’s styles range from the abstract headiness of minimal and experimental tek to his own tongue-in-cheek productions based largely on recognizable samples from such disparate sources as movies, rap or funk. INSOMNIAK [insomniak.ca] ___ Base:: Montreal, Canada. ___ Weapon of choice:: a mashup of heavyweight breakbeats and funky analog techno. ___ Releases:: two 12” singles (under the name Phreak) and numerous compilation and independent cd releases. The single “Deep Phreak” was remixed by house legend John Aquaviva and found its way on to DJ play-lists around the world. ___ Televison:: creation of breakbeat theme songs and cues for MTV’s “Blame Game” and “Crush” on the USA Network as well as station ID beats for the new channel “MTV Jams”. Also heard on CBC "ZED TV" and soon on "Nerve". ___ Live performances:: have included opening for such international acts as The Art of Trance, Spacetime Continuum, Misjah, Westbam, The Stickmen, Skylab 2000, Delta 9 and Kenny Ken. FM_MAN [rave.ca] 21 year old Montreal native Scott Philip has been producing electronic music since 1996, covering a wide range of musical styles. Fm_man is his latest solo music project, combining the influences of house, techno, dub, jazz, synthpop, idm, industrial, and electro into a fusion of dance floor friendly sounds. Widely respected in the underground online music community, Scott's music has topped charts on several music portals including mp3.com and rave.ca. NAW [noisefactoryrecords.com] montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including recent releases on clever-music, and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days. he has recently returned from tours in france, germany, and canada.to co-enside with his recent releases on these labels and pans to retunr to europe this summer for more tours including a performance at the now legendary sonar festival in barcelona, spain. CYAN [ckut, traktion.com] Montreal based dj, radio host and producer cyan aka Corina MacDonald has been an active participant in montreal’s electronic music scene since 1996. She currently hosts modular systems, an electronic music magazine show on ckut 90.3 fm and is also involved in organizing phoniq collective events and projects. Her sound can best be described as layered, dense and deep rhythms intersecting the genres of techno, house and electro. Her independently produced DJ mix ‘The Gravity Protocol’ has been received in a very positive light by reviewers and techno fans alike. KHANFUCIUS [panospria.com] Constantine has been active in exploring the electronic arts since the early 1990s. He became involved in the BBS scene at a young age, tracking music modules and drawing ascii art. By 1996 he chose the alias Khanfucius and began as a DJ, playing an assortment of strange, abstract and ambient music at local clubs, raves and other events in the prairies. His active involvement in the scene spawned many projects, including the event production company Uninhibited Sound System with his fellow DJs and the artistic collective Panospria. Musical side projects around this time included playing laptop and synths in the improv electronic band Mandelbrot Set and co-producing an album as Break Fluid with Sasafras of the hip hop group Isosceles. His first solo album as Khanfucius, The Phuzzillogikal Basement Tapes 96-98, was compiled and released independently prior to moving to Dublin, Ireland in 1999. This release caught the attention of radio DJ Keith Downey who invited him to co-host his show on Kiss FM called Psychonavigation. Keith would go on to start Psychonavigation Records and release music by Constantine and his Canadian associates. Upon his return to Canada, he took up residence in Ontario and studied in the fields of audio and multimedia. Since 2001, his focus has been fixed on his experimental music and sound-art project as Scant Intone. Currently living in Montreal, he is working on upcoming solo and collaborative works as well as coordinating projects for both Panospria and Psychonavigation Records. DELRAY [rx-tx/asphodel/reflective] Matthew Biederman’s (DelRay) diverse range of audiovisual performances and installations find their common ground in themes of “cut-up” electronic image delivery, media saturation, data systems and electromagnetic spectrum scanning. Biederman, who has performed and exhibited both nationally and internationally, has recently developed his work via various prestigious artist-in-residence programs or festival “laboratories” including the Center for Experimental Television (New York), Makrolab (while situated at Blair Atholl, Scotland) and SIGGRAPH. In addition to winning awards as Bay Area Artist in New Media (New Langton Arts) and first prize at the Break21 Festival (Slovenia), his work has been exhibited in numerous festivals including the 7 Festival Internacional (Lima, Peru) New Forms Festival (Vancouver, Canada), the Chicago Underground Film Festival, Paris/Berlin Recontres International, and Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Biederman also performs extensively in the US and abroad most recently at such venues as Signal Sever! (Futuresonic04, ISEA, and venues in Vienna, Ljubljana, and Paris) as well as the Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago where he works with a variety of sound artists to perform Audio/Visual compositions. JOHNNY RANGER [mindroots.com] The artistic projects of Johnny Ranger include VJING, Interdisciplinary Shows, Performances and Web art. He is the founder of Mindroots a sensuous poetic laboratory of non linear creation. He has been a regular at the SAT, he presented works at the Biennale d’art contemporain, the New Museum of Contemporary art in New York, EspaceTangente and at the Lachapelle theater amongs other. He is currently working on a new live performance of open ended audio-visual narratives entitled: The Dynamic Constellations which includes footages he has shot in Brazil, India, Indonesia and Canada. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 00:31:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34334-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34617 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:31:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 34607 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:31:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:30:19 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <l03130300be2f0214b41c@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <l03130300be2f0214b41c@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote: >> Duh is right I suppose. I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is. > -I think we're getting used to your lack of understanding, so > don't worry, we'll manage to ignoring you after a while... What's this now? Quote a friendly exchange between Graham and myself, remove the emoticon indicating inflection, and then an attempt to insult my intelligence? I meant nothing bad towards him. I realize English is not your first language, but I would appreciate you keeping that in mind as well before insulting the intelligence of other people when you may miss the point of their statements. At least, I'm hoping this was just due to a sort of language barrier, and it wasn't just rude, childish behavior on your part... - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 9 00:21:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34333-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28792 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:21:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 28782 invoked from network); Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:21:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:21:34 -0500 From: Quintus Frimschlowder <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Quintus Frimschlowder <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nVcRRKUEiKJ/ET9eEPZK3nk95RPzo9TWHwRmI8wE/9AgGwL16S8DFsQmzEBhAQBzcDKWecItYzX+9EHqu4B89yqoY0ElhyQig1qX9OUxxS60TZav3pb2atKhsG3eOYFaM5v2EjZpc0+vjU4qNvTn4B0jVFqe1H2hLS9n3beIRCk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:58:29 +0100, Everyone wrote: > A bunch of noise about arbitrary definitions to a bunch of words. Though I like Graham's idea about the MIDI guitar dealie. Subtleties in the way one plays could tweak effects. Bending a note could add more distortion, a hammer-on could automatically turn delay on for the duration of that note, etc. Lots of possibilities. Configuration interface would be absolutely key. Would be very expensive to produce. Kudos to any craftsman / hobbyist who would take the time to build one, though. Reminds me of the MIDI accordian than was recently put on the market. -QF8 http://scatterbrain.raygunarmy.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:58:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34332-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15201 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:58:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 15169 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:58:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:58:29 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be2f0214b41c@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Duh is right I suppose. I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is. -I think we're getting used to your lack of understanding, so don't worry, we'll manage to ignoring you after a while... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:56:23 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34331-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13582 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:56:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 13570 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:56:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:54:57 -0800 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] another interesting release To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <013201c50e39$c1b35f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx levy's recordings were good on vinyl. little bombastic though r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: [microsound] another interesting release I was also FWD'd this which also sounds like something that would be found in a typical microsounders CD pile: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- TIBETAN BUDDHIST RITES FROM THE MONASTORIES OF BHUTAN cd SR222 barcode 5411867112228 recorded by John Levy in 1971 more than 140 minutes of the most powerful music ever recorded on earth ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ John Levy, an englishman in Bhutan early seventies Released by Lyrichord in mid-70', all the people who have listen to these vinyls know that it does'nt exist something more powerful, more prodigious and pure than them. John Levy was a london ethnomusicologist who took refuge in tibetan buddhism. So he had all the possibilities to record - with his nagra-stéreo - all the rituals (even the most sacred). We can say that what is discovered here is unique and far behond all what was done after that. All the material is fully remastered and we propose the Levy's collection divided into two discs of ritual and chanting (SR222 / rel date Jan 28, 2005) and one of instrumentals and folk music (SR230, to be released late 2005) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ The great power of the rituals of the Drupka and Nyingmapa Order On the first volume, a double cd with extented notes, Rituals of the Drupka Order, the primary instrument is the long golden trumpet, along with various drums and percussion and a deep droning bass. Rather than soothingly meditative, the music can be a bit dissonant to Western ears. Chanted and played by 76 Lamas and Monks with long trumpets, shawms, cymbals, drums and other Tibetan instruments in sacred temples. Invited by the king of Bhutan, Levy was afforded every facility for recording monastic music in the principal dzongs (great fort-like monasteries) of the Nyingmapa Order. The ethereal Polytonal throat chanting, the long trumpets, shawms and percussion instruments, the processional music and spectacular mask dances, Tibetan and Bhutanese secular songs and poems, All reproduced with incredibly sonic fidelity! A truly remarkable collection, with extensive liner notes, photographs, and musical illustrations by John Levy. as info, later in the year, we'll publish another volume : Tibetan and Bhutanese Instrumental and Folk Music SR230 The last volume features performances on both Tibetan and Bhutanese lutes and fiddles, beautiful folksongs, and a part of a drama of Tibetan origin performed by a troupe of yak and cow herdsmen of eastern Bhutan. The latter is particularly compelling, the standout performer being Go-Te Do-Pe, who sings and accompanies himself on the dramnyen, a Bhutanese lute. His two songs bear an eerie resemblance to the blues of Junior Kimbrough and other Mississippi hill country musiciansŠ A real blues of the top of the world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ CD track listing CD ONE PART ONE Rituals of the Drukpa Order Band 1: In Praise of Genyen. Band 2: Offering of "Golden Drink". Band 3: Exhortation to the Guardian Goddess of Long Life. Band 4: Long Trumpets, "Throat Ornament:. Band 5: Long Trumpets, "Two Notes Prolonged". Band 6: Invitation to Gonpo. Band 7: Petition to Chakchen. Band 8: Invoking Tshetro's Blessings. Band 1: Supplication to the Buddhas. Band 2: Aspiration to be reborn in the Western Paradise. Band 3: Petition to Dramar. Band 4: Prayer for Lama's Long Life. Band 5: Large 'Mani-wheel', with mantra. Bands 6, 7, & 8: Rite to Cure Disease, chanted by nuns. Band 9: 'Tibetan Shawm', Processional Music. Band 10: Processional music for shawms and percussion. Band 11: Long Trumpets, "Auspicious Ending". PART TWO Sacred Dances and Rituals of the Nyingmapa and Drukpa Orders Recorded at the Nyingmapa Monastery, Nyimalug. Band 1: Peling Shachham, Deer Dance. Band 2: Dramitse Ngachlam, The Drum Dance of Dramitse. Bands 3, 4 and 5: Lama Norbu Guamtsho, Ritual dedicated to Padma Sambhava. CD TWO Sacred Dances and Rituals of the Nyingmapa and Drukpa Orders (SUITE) Recorded in the Tongsa Dzong. From the Seven Supplications to Padma Sambhava. Band 1: Entreaty to the Three Buddha-bodies Band 2: Invitation to Padma Sambhava. Band 3: Rise up, Padma. Band 4: Words of Prayer. Band 5: "Tibetan Shawms." part three Temple Rituals and Public Ceremonies Annual Restival, drubchen, Great Tantric Attainment, in Myingmapa Monastery at Kyichu. Band 1: Myule Drelwa, Calling Down of deities to subjugate evil spirit; and Kulwa, its death, stabbed by Black Hat. Band 2: Part of Junbeb, The Coming /down of Grace. Band 3: Monks in procession playing portable instruments followed by chanting of the Heart-Drop Teaching. Recorded in Thimphu. Band 4: Dramnyen Choshe, Song of Offering, with lute (dramnyen). Lute solo, followed by chorus, in praise of sons of Bhutan. Band 5: Dramnyen Choshe, chorus only, Song in Praise of Chinese Silk. Annual Restival of Sacred Dance, at Jampai Lhakhang (Temple of the Future Buddha in Bumthang Dt., E. Bhutan). Bands 1,2 and 3: Monks, a clown, crowds and instruments. Band 4: End of festival, with temple bell, and drums and trumpets. Bands 5 and 6: Wandering ascetic (manip) chanting a Milarepa poem and a mantra. Band 7: Cymbals (silnyen) played solo. Band 8: Cross-flute (zurlim), folk-song from E. Bhutan. Band 9: Another manip chanting Milarepa poem. Band 10: First manip as story-teller. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ key points * recorded by John Levy in 1971 more than 140 minutes of the most powerful music ever recorded on earth ! * John Levy, who was a london ethnomusicologist, took refuge in tibetan buddhism. He had all the possibilities to record - with his nagra-stéreo - all the rituals, even the most sacred, having every facility for recording monastic music in the principal dzongs (great fort-like monasteries) * Secular songs and poems, reproduced with incredibly sonic fidelity! * de luxe packaging with slipcase ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ musician TIBETAN AND BUDDHIST RITES FROM THE MONASTORIES OF BHUTAN ref SR222 - 2 cd set 2CD set packaged in a slipcase + booklet packed in 25 units CD boxes shrinked release date January 28, 2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:48:20 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34330-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9257 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:48:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 9247 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:48:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:48:05 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx We need to standardize on putting quoted text above or below your own... ;-) - John On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:40 PM, graham miller wrote: > no point really. having a point is soooo 2004:) > > John Nowak wrote: > >> On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:29 PM, graham miller wrote: >> >>> that said, writing a symphony, building a violin, and playing a >>> violin >>> are three totally different aspects of making music... the same >>> applies >>> to electronic music. >>> >>> many of the great composers were not masters of any specific >>> instrument, >>> many of the great instrument builders were not great composers or >>> players, and many of the great players could never write anything or >>> build anything... there are exceptions, of course, but getting back >>> to >>> the point: playing an instrument, a physical instrument, a 'real' >>> instrument, an acoustic instrument, whatever, is totally different >>> from >>> programming a DSP patch... >>> >>> duh? >> >> Duh is right I suppose. I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is. >> :-) >> >> - John >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:36:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34329-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2067 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:36:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 2057 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:36:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:40:33 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx no point really. having a point is soooo 2004:) John Nowak wrote: > On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:29 PM, graham miller wrote: > > > that said, writing a symphony, building a violin, and playing a violin > > are three totally different aspects of making music... the same applies > > to electronic music. > > > > many of the great composers were not masters of any specific > > instrument, > > many of the great instrument builders were not great composers or > > players, and many of the great players could never write anything or > > build anything... there are exceptions, of course, but getting back to > > the point: playing an instrument, a physical instrument, a 'real' > > instrument, an acoustic instrument, whatever, is totally different from > > programming a DSP patch... > > > > duh? > > Duh is right I suppose. I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is. > :-) > > - John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:31:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34328-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97274 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:31:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 97256 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:31:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:31:02 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:29 PM, graham miller wrote: > that said, writing a symphony, building a violin, and playing a violin > are three totally different aspects of making music... the same applies > to electronic music. > > many of the great composers were not masters of any specific > instrument, > many of the great instrument builders were not great composers or > players, and many of the great players could never write anything or > build anything... there are exceptions, of course, but getting back to > the point: playing an instrument, a physical instrument, a 'real' > instrument, an acoustic instrument, whatever, is totally different from > programming a DSP patch... > > duh? Duh is right I suppose. I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is. :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:25:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34327-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94279 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:25:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 94263 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:25:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:29:49 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that said, writing a symphony, building a violin, and playing a violin are three totally different aspects of making music... the same applies to electronic music. many of the great composers were not masters of any specific instrument, many of the great instrument builders were not great composers or players, and many of the great players could never write anything or build anything... there are exceptions, of course, but getting back to the point: playing an instrument, a physical instrument, a 'real' instrument, an acoustic instrument, whatever, is totally different from programming a DSP patch... duh? g. John Nowak wrote: > On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Kevin Ponto wrote: > > >> What about.... Technology liberates people from the constraints of > >> having > >> to 'learn' something as dead-ended as a physical instrument? > >> > >> :D > >> > >> - Mark > > > > I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs > > (even if you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to > > master a "dead-ended physical instrument". > > I take it you're not a dsp programmer? > > - John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:13:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34326-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 88236 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:12:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 88225 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:12:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:12:46 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Kevin Ponto wrote: >> What about.... Technology liberates people from the constraints of >> having >> to 'learn' something as dead-ended as a physical instrument? >> >> :D >> >> - Mark > > I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs > (even if you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to > master a "dead-ended physical instrument". I take it you're not a dsp programmer? - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:10:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34325-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86594 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:10:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 86584 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:10:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:10:28 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, john dred wrote: > Yayyyyy > more electronic musicians who dont actually play an > instrument > yayyy yayyyy What's this, 1970? I thought we were over this. ;-) - JN --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 23:06:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34324-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 83378 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:05:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 83355 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 23:05:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:05:52 -0800 From: Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?[microsound]_Call_for_artists_=28Montr=E9al=29?= To: "[microsound]" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.tritoncore.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - anihilo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx HarS @ ETAY Paris-based Dutch artist HarS travels to Montreal, Canada for a week residency (Feb 14-21, 2005) at the ETAY loft. He is seeking (sound)artists and musicians in the Montreal area to visit him and to talk about their work, do a short recording session with him, and perform with him at 2 informal public 'loft-concerts' on Sat Feb 19 and Sun Feb 20. David Johnston's ETAY (www.etay.ca) Loft is equipped with digital video-cameras, capturing video 24/7 and 'audio-wired' by an earlier residency of Jake Elliot (http://structuredsound.net/). Contact: HarS (xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan So_Directeur ME'D1.ATE NETWORK | www.me-di-ate.net (((Project>Soundwave))) | www.projecsoundwave.com (((The.ME.Project))) | www.MEproject.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-415-706-9629 http://anihilo.com W-415-750-3517 http://ruidobello.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 22:58:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34323-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78563 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:58:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 78552 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:58:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:01:58 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx what about incorporating such a device (eventually) into the fretboard of a guitar... with mulitiple touch points, it would be identical to the way one would normally fret... as far as right hand action (strumming non-existant strings) you could have some kind of infrared sensor that could be interupted with the pick... i dunno, just thinking out loud here... i mean, it would a synth, but with a guitar interface... not mention how cool it would look on stage,with the LCD facing the audience... Quintus Frimschlowder wrote: > Well one drawback is that you can't really shred on it the way you can > on a "real" instrument. That is, you'll likely have to play it pretty > gently if you want it to have an extended lifespan. Small fragile > parts and all that. > > And smashing it at the end of a gig is almost certainly out of the question. > > Still, it's a totally awesome device. Next time I fall ass-backwards > into a trillion dollars, I'm buying one. > > -QF8 > http://scatterbrain.raygunarmy.com/ > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:29:13 +0100, Arie van Schutterhoef > <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > >playing an instrument 'physically' is one of the great joys of being a > > >musician... tactile bliss. > > -I wonder to what extent the Lemur is capable of that. > > Particularly it's touch-surface which doesn't give any > > physical feedback like you have when play a stringed instrument. > > I wonder if this will hamper your playing. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 22:55:08 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34322-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76817 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:55:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 76806 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:55:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:53:19 +0000 From: Mark Griffiths <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Grain Envelopes X-Originating-IP: [82.33.116.34] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2005 22:54:00.0901 (UTC) FILETIME=[14702F50:01C50E31] Can anyone help me? I am been looking for .aiff files to use as grain envelopes in a Granular patch in am building in Max. In particular I am looking for Gaussian, Quasi-Gaussian, Three-Stage Live Segment, Expodec and Rexpodec curves. Probably a long-shot, but worth a try!!! Thanks!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 22:08:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34321-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40724 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:39:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 40672 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:39:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:39:51 -0500 From: Quintus Frimschlowder <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Quintus Frimschlowder <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Rmzi0rqhKq0baNKA4Zw2odL1tCZaO9I+lDsFj7saoNWxK1lNi5lyjd+tfxXnQpllkx5ISyow3tJMmw4O+/nC5V5wANgmbtZ4Mg0TcVLNAzo+YrT58R3AzE0hmvNm011PwGvpQyfjBKtwDeJP1/mD5oE5PHtDQSOMVlSF8ImnrNM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well one drawback is that you can't really shred on it the way you can on a "real" instrument. That is, you'll likely have to play it pretty gently if you want it to have an extended lifespan. Small fragile parts and all that. And smashing it at the end of a gig is almost certainly out of the question. Still, it's a totally awesome device. Next time I fall ass-backwards into a trillion dollars, I'm buying one. -QF8 http://scatterbrain.raygunarmy.com/ On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:29:13 +0100, Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > >playing an instrument 'physically' is one of the great joys of being a > >musician... tactile bliss. > -I wonder to what extent the Lemur is capable of that. > Particularly it's touch-surface which doesn't give any > physical feedback like you have when play a stringed instrument. > I wonder if this will hamper your playing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 19:07:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34320-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55564 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 55553 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:07:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:07:06 -0800 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx login:85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > What about.... Technology liberates people from the constraints of > having > to 'learn' something as dead-ended as a physical instrument? > > :D > > - Mark Oh dear God I hope you're kidding, but if you're not, that's a jaw dropping statement. I don't see how anyone can consider themselves a musician or even a lover of music without being awed at a display of mastery over a physical instrument. The amount of minute motor control honed over decades, synapses working in perfect harmony with appendages, the mind performing astronomical calculations on the fly in order to make horse hair dragging over cat gut sound beautiful? It's one of the greatest heights to which a human can aspire. I'm sorry, but it doesn't take a tenth the skill to twiddle knobs (even if you built the box and wrote the software) that it does to master a "dead-ended physical instrument". kp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 19:06:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34319-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54437 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:06:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 54417 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:06:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:06:31 -0500 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> That's an absurd amount of money.... you can buy an 15" touchable lcd >> from Wacom for $1000 less. OSC is nice, but not /that/ nice. > > I think the whole idea is that Lemur accepts multiple touch points at > once. You can use all ten fingers at the same time if you wish. > I saw a live demo a little over a week ago and the multiple finger input was definitely a major departure (and impressive). I gather what goes on is you have a programmer app that lets you arrange and lay out controller objects on the Lemur. Right now they've developed 5 different objects. Most notable is X-Y area that allows multiple point input and behaviors of tracked points during after finger contact has been lifted. The others are more conventional. Buttons with programmable states, virtual faders, etc. You determine the exact OSC data being output by the controllers. You can use formulas for instance to output the ranges and sorts of data you want. There was a mention that while the controller doesn't directly output pressure data they felt felt that they would eventually be able to interpret the change in the area of contact as something analogous to pressure info. Something that I wouldn't consider a criticism that came to mind during the demo was that while the Lemur is incredibly seductive if you are playing it yourself, the demo highlighted a bit of frustration from an audience's viewpoint in that it is intimate in size and while it can control a video performance (and I'm sure Jitter or GEM code could do something custom in terms visualizing the output) it's not outputting a capture-able visual or is itself on a large enough in scale to let the audience really in on the performance. That's something that visual tracking software (which has it's own pros and cons) does do compellingly from an audience perspective. What to me seemed like an understandable though major criticism is overall you only have high level access to the Lemur end of things. For instance you can't go in and develop a new controller object, redesign the the graphics, in other words work on the Lemur side of things at a lower level. You can develop something in PD that interprets the OSC data from the Lemur any way but on the Lemur you are limited to the parameters of the provided controller objects and the layout of multiple controller objects. One of the observers at the demo had a very valuable observation that hasn't yet been explored by the Lemur developers. As it stands there is no capability for an external app to update info on the Lemur screen. The controllers themselves most definitely update themselves and provide visual feedback but the controller info is streaming from the Lemur to your device (most likely an app or patch running on the same computer hosting the Lemur programmer app). Only the Lemur programmer app is sending updates from the outside world to the Lemur, I'd think this is a whole important area as a high end flexible performance tool that needs to be addressed to take things from the seductively novel to being a potentially extremely valuable device to realize new custom performance interfaces. nicholas d. kent http://technopop.info/ndkent --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 19:01:21 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34318-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:01:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:01:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 48962 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:01:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 48950 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:01:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:58:50 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Webcam as a MIDI controller + Pixel tracking, etc In-reply-to: <BE2E6833.33FC%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE2E6833.33FC%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 2 additions: Adam Young wrote: > I really want to use a webcam and convert video info to midi... I've > received many suggestions. The problem is, the only item I could find that > would run on OSX was the max/msp solution... pd and gem runs on OSX too, are free and I got tracking working with it I'm looking for something that > can stand on it's own two feet without something clunky like max, and it > will be triggering events in another audio program, as if it were a standard > midi controller. clunky or not, tracking is not trivial. With Max you got the option to use Rewire to connect with Reason on the same machine, but have no experience with it because I dont own Reason... Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- Next events: 11. february Elektronengehirn Concert at Dorkbot Ghent, Belgium more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 18:29:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34317-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31785 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:29:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 31757 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:29:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:29:13 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300be2eb4614571@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >playing an instrument 'physically' is one of the great joys of being a >musician... tactile bliss. -I wonder to what extent the Lemur is capable of that. Particularly it's touch-surface which doesn't give any physical feedback like you have when play a stringed instrument. I wonder if this will hamper your playing. In 1998 I developed a similar kind of controller using FSR's and sheepskin to cover it. Thus giving it a sense of reciprocal tactility. 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Tue Feb 8 18:27:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34316-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13278 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:59:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 13268 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:59:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:59:31 -0500 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Webcam as a MIDI controller + Pixel tracking, etc In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2E6833.33FC%xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I really want to use a webcam and convert video info to midi... I've received many suggestions. The problem is, the only item I could find that would run on OSX was the max/msp solution... I'm looking for something that can stand on it's own two feet without something clunky like max, and it will be triggering events in another audio program, as if it were a standard midi controller. (Actually, I will be using Reason because of a certain technique I've developed in abusing the sampler devices). Is there anything that exists that will acomplish this? -ay --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Mar 8 17:56:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34675-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94555 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:56:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 94544 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:56:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:55:36 -0800 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cello distorted on playback . eq help needed In-reply-to: <r02010400-1026-9B8DE1B88FE411D9890B000502896A9E@[192.168.0.100]> X-Originating-IP: 4.243.33.16 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=lPbCREbT+XuAFRNDZmeqAyA36/IIvkJ8g9Pp4mU4kwAh3XGr7c9avQTAcqKs54/X; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c2609df268fec860d954b3dfdc1ac8cac29d8a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <r02010400-1026-9B8DE1B88FE411D9890B000502896A9E@[192.168.0.100]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi john! did you try making sure the sound enhancer is off? my other suggestion is firing all the cello and viola players leaving the violins and bass for a brighter tomorrow with a nice low end. future spot for imaginary girl group: i'm tony i'm tonier i'm tawnier i'm tinnier and wed love to take you on a journey to a place you've obviously been before On Mar 8, 2005, at 7:13 AM, john hudak wrote: > hello folks! > (sorry for any cross-posts) > > i'm having a bit of trouble with the reproduction of the cello on my > regular stereo system, especially when playing it through the > combination of apple express wireless via (airtunes) itunes. it is odd > that when i play the cello pieces using the combination of airfoil (the > new rogueamoeba airtunes substitute) and peak, the distortion is not > there. my main concern is that a lot of people listen through itunes, > and i'm wondering if it might have something to do with the eq in > itunes. if so, i wonder if there is a way i can eq the cello in a sort > of "flat" way so it doesn't distort. > > if some of you wouldn't mind letting me know how these pieces sound > through your systems, it would help me a lot, since these pieces were > the ones where the distortions first started to bother me (and perhaps > i > shouldn't worry about it): > > http://www.johnhudak.net/radio > > the mp3s will start playing automatically. you can download them to > disk using the computer icon with the arrow (on the mac it works if you > mouse-down on the icon and wait for the contextual menu). > > thanks for any help/comments/suggestions/interpretations! > > best future, > john > > jhudak at pobox.com > http://www.johnhudak.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 18:51:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34315-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8009 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:49:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 7999 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:49:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:53:39 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <3kt96j$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hope you're playing devil's advocate, but something as dead-ended as my electric guitars give me just as much pleasure as reaktor does, if not more... ditto for my rhodes piano... playing an instrument 'physically' is one of the great joys of being a musician... tactile bliss. like it or not, we're not quite at the brain in a jar level of human evolution. touch is still one of the five senses, one that is often ignored in electronic music... Mark Schieldrop wrote: > > Yayyyyy > > more electronic musicians who dont actually play an > > instrument > > yayyy yayyyy > > Heh. Can of worms time? > > What about.... Technology liberates people from the constraints of having > to 'learn' something as dead-ended as a physical instrument? > > :D > > - Mark > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 16:58:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34314-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78475 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:58:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 78465 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:58:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:58:41 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] GRM-PARIS FEB 18th 2005 To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm honored to be performing at the GRM with Taylor Deupree, TeZ and Fennesz on Feb 18th... Taylor and I will be collaborating (we're performing as a duo) with a very talented visual artist who goes by the name TeZ (ok, actually a trio!)...so this hopes to be a very special concert and rather different for all of us...I won't give away any secrets here but if you're in Paris on Feb 18th please make it to the show...also Fennesz will be performing so it should be a very enjoyable evening all around! http://www.ina.fr/grm/agenda/index.fr.html hope to see you there! KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 16:56:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34313-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76633 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:56:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 76615 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:56:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:56:22 -0500 From: Mark Schieldrop <xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcUN+dt3Q7WYXabiR1yHdEpqVQejbwAAGDjQ Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Yayyyyy > more electronic musicians who dont actually play an > instrument > yayyy yayyyy Heh. Can of worms time? What about.... Technology liberates people from the constraints of having to 'learn' something as dead-ended as a physical instrument? :D - Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 16:18:41 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34312-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47904 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:18:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 47892 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:18:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: john dred <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=YGODVgRC0BELntGRH2ctafCwBS63J5KN56BN+kiqh+r/O8Pk9bcJo+snet9Zr+qNoU2V898E44SFS9vkyjsTpXfHYqonn9j8yXPycYrUBgo0KWS0H62ZWBSV+VUMMfmPWHQ+loT1FyYkRuaj1pi0L3Rc2Hd9wY1m+0HmM2ej12A= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yayyyyy more electronic musicians who dont actually play an instrument yayyy yayyyy --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Scott Carver wrote: > > > That's an absurd amount of money.... you can buy > an 15" touchable lcd > > from Wacom for $1000 less. OSC is nice, but not > /that/ nice. > > I think the whole idea is that Lemur accepts > multiple touch points at > once. You can use all ten fingers at the same time > if you wish. > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 11:53:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34311-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 06:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 06:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71211 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:53:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 71201 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:53:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:53:10 +0000 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FW: SPAM-LOW: Job opportunity In-reply-to: <BE2D1249.4172%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2E58A6.3E7C%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx SONIC ARTS NETWORK is looking for a PROJECT MANAGER to join the Sonic Postcards team and manage a number of innovative and creative sound projects in schools across the UK. Funded by NESTA, Sonic Postcards is an education project focusing on the impact of sound on our lives. It enables pupils to explore and compare their sound environments by exchanging sound postcards through the creative use of ICT. For further information and a job description visit our website www.sonicartsnetwork.org or call Dan Stone on 020 7928 7337 To apply please send a CV and covering letter with details of any relevant experience and skills to: Sonic Postcards Project Director Sonic Arts Network The Jerwood Space 171 Union Street London SE1 0LN or by email to xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Salary £18 000 p.a. The post is a full-time position based in The Jerwood Space, London SE1 Closing date for applications Friday 4th March. Interviews will take place on Friday 11th March. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 11:31:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34310-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 06:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 06:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64875 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:30:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 64848 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:30:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 12:30:58 +0100 From: Eric Falconnier <xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] events in paris In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Eric Falconnier <xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Y6Mq9pHwuwLeqme/H35I2g0lmJmWKNguk44abhhRLhF+gXkDTgzdbuk+8xS5vYn8x8RSmmI2AHIczFquxcAaBhOXLnH0qV1c3eyNFn3VluN1+JGXBQ63z9+U88IFTAB5U+S6sMWzg2TBw0ZC3hgNigMpq2z0YNLs341P8aii208= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.ina.fr/grm/agenda/index.fr.html On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:13:28 -0500, Jim Kennedy <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > I'll be in Paris 18 Feb to 26 Feb. Does anyone know of any interesting > events? Recommendations for venues, galleries etc... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 05:03:29 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34309-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50031 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:03:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 50015 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:03:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:03:18 +1100 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] computer art To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A high horse with a low brow :) On Feb 7, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Paulo Mouat wrote: > Oh get off your high horse, mate. Ignore at will--I doubt anyone > cares one > way or the other. True, this discussion is old, but depending on the > phase > of the moon it is sometimes nice to dig through all the worthless > 'debate' > and find the occasional gem, which usually comes with interesting > links and > references. I just wanted an excuse to use the phrase "circle jerk". - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Tue Feb 8 05:00:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34307-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39477 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:00:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 39447 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:00:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:00:20 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE2D98BB.8218%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Scott Carver wrote: > That's an absurd amount of money.... you can buy an 15" touchable lcd > from Wacom for $1000 less. OSC is nice, but not /that/ nice. I think the whole idea is that Lemur accepts multiple touch points at once. You can use all ten fingers at the same time if you wish. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 05:02:46 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34308-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47042 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:02:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 46963 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:02:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:00:00 +0800 From: cheewai <xx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ...ihavelostfriends.. In-reply-to: <HAEGJCNFIDPIDMHFGAIFOEAFCAAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LUje2R7FPks09pAhb/QMXg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <HAEGJCNFIDPIDMHFGAIFOEAFCAAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LUje2R7FPks09pAhb/QMXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dear all, greetings from singapore. would like to publicise an event we (sporesac - singapore sonic arts collective) are organising on 17 february. so should any one of you be around this area, do drop by and say hi. also, should any of you be dropping by the south east asia region and would like to arrange a performance in singapore, please contact us to see if we can help you. but it helps if it is something planned in advance. warmest regards, cheewai. online flyer - http://www.ferretlabs.com/lostfriends1.jpg http://www.ferretlabs.com/lostfriends2.jpg I have lost friends Things have dropped from me. I have outlived certain desires; I have lost friends, some by death... others through sheer inability to cross the street. - Virginia Woolf Boxing Day 2004. The world arose to a terrifying reminder of nature’s uncontrollable wrath. Sweeping waves of death that privilege neither nationality nor religious affiliation, a rampaging killer blind to our typically human conceits, the tsunamis left behind scenes of destruction and sorrow on a pornographic scale. Yet grief and loss have always stalked the human condition. They are a universal part of life and what makes us the people we are. As victims, as survivors, as volunteers, as aid-givers, as bystanders and voyeurs, we all grieve. But what is it that we have lost? An attempt to reflect on that which cannot be reflected upon, “I Have Lost Friends” brings together a diverse group of artists using their work as an interpretive means to come to terms with not only sorrow and loss, but also beauty and hope. It is a simultaneous journey of mourning and rebirth. The event is made up of 4 distinct segments and features the diverse talents of Norwegian improv drone rock band Del, as well as laptop musician Yuen Chee Wai in a collaboration with acclaimed noise artist Lasse Marhaug, Zai Kuning on his electric guitar with Harold Seah, drummer of the band Hello Kitty Riots, and Leslie Low & Evan Tan from The Observatory. Join us on a contemplative night as we take a quiet journey that will see the exchange of perceptions, impressions and ideas framed within a broad cross-cultural context, in remembrance of things lost. This event is made possible by singapore sonic arts collective (sporesac), an open-ended assemblage of like-minded musicians and event organisers that seeks to create greater awareness of experimental music and sound art in Singapore and its region. Made up of diverse individuals who nevertheless share a passion for avant-garde sounds, the collective has set its mind on strengthening the emerging experimental music scene in Singapore with a number of ongoing initiatives. 17 February 2005 (Thursday), 8pm Artrium 0107, MICA Building (NAC) Tickets at $10 from Roxy Records (Excelsior) or at the door. For more information, please email to xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx A map of the place can be found here http://www.streetdirectory.com.sg/map.jsp? masterID=26739&x=29661.2100&y=30363.3342&postal=179369&house_blk_no=140& building_name=MICA+Building+Headquaters&road_name=Hill+Street&level=7&st ar=1&heading=140+HILL+STREET%2C+MICA+BUILDING+HEADQUATERS%09%28179369%29 &searchtype=building&goto=null&goto=null&sres=-1 --Boundary_(ID_LUje2R7FPks09pAhb/QMXg)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 05:00:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34306-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 00:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37434 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:00:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 37414 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:00:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:59:47 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] computer art In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 7, 2005, at 9:27 PM, Paulo Mouat wrote: > Oh get off your high horse, mate. Ignore at will--I doubt anyone > cares one > way or the other. True, this discussion is old, but depending on the > phase > of the moon it is sometimes nice to dig through all the worthless > 'debate' > and find the occasional gem, which usually comes with interesting > links and > references. I just wanted an excuse to use the phrase "circle jerk". - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 03:44:57 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34305-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86091 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:44:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 86080 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:44:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:44:50 -0500 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] replacement Mac laptop batts? In-reply-to: <BE2D98BB.8218%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-C97A1A8C798311D9AA5D000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all- My Macintosh Pismo battery has died and I need a new one. Seems one can buy partially used batteries on Ebay and "replicas" around on the Internet. Can anyone recommend a reliable, cheap supplier for Pismo batts? Does anyone take your old batt and put new Lithium cells in? Thanks in advance! Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 03:44:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34304-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85200 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:44:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 85190 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:44:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:44:36 -0800 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Lemur! In-reply-to: <BE2D98BB.8218%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE2D98BB.8218%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's an absurd amount of money.... you can buy an 15" touchable lcd from Wacom for $1000 less. OSC is nice, but not /that/ nice. -Scott Carver On Feb 7, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Al C wrote: > keywords:Lemur,Cycling 74',amazing performance interface,quite > expensive... > > http://www.cycling74.com/products/lemur.html > > later, > albert casais > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 03:06:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34303-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76050 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:06:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 76040 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 03:06:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:14:20 -0500 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Lemur! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2D98BB.8218%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx keywords:Lemur,Cycling 74',amazing performance interface,quite expensive... http://www.cycling74.com/products/lemur.html later, albert casais --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 8 02:27:48 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34302-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 64520 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 02:27:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 64510 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Feb 2005 02:27:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 21:27:32 -0500 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] computer art In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcUNKMJT1w4Tg63ASayK7GOA6FH8eQAW6Ucw Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - t8.cwihosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dmethods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Oh get off your high horse, mate. Ignore at will--I doubt anyone cares one way or the other. True, this discussion is old, but depending on the phase of the moon it is sometimes nice to dig through all the worthless 'debate' and find the occasional gem, which usually comes with interesting links and references. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > -----Original Message----- > From: John Nowak [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:21 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] computer art > > > On Feb 4, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > > > well it had to happen eventually: the uber-geeksters at /. are > > 'debating' (I use that term loosely here) computer art! > > Looks like another uninformed slashdot circle jerk to me. Not > being the circle jerk type, I think I shall ignore this. > Besides, I think we all had this discussion a few years > ago... *shiver* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 20:57:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34301-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42623 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:57:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 42611 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:57:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:56:55 -0600 From: bremsstrahlung recordings <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 2005 news - online audio release with Christian Fennesz, Steve Roden, Taylor Deupree, Kit Clayton, Stephan Mathieu, Alejandra & Aeron and others To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <HAEGJCNFIDPIDMHFGAIFOEAFCAAA.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello, bremsstrahlung recordings has undergone a few changes receintly and so we'd like to let you know about our new focus, website and "online-first" label. best, josh --------> Website: We have just overhauled our website and changed our URL address. We are no longer at www.lowercasesound.com but now at www.bremsstrahlung-recordings.org. The site has been completely redesigned, the content has been expanded and we have added an online-first release section. About: bremsstrahlung recordings is now a not-for-profit organization focusing on publishing egoless sound. Any profit made goes to help fund the nature sound preservation campaign “one square inch of silence,” headed by Gordon Hempton. This is a quest to find one square inch within a national park in which “natural quiet” (absence of man-made sounds) exists. This campaign has already led to greater awareness of sound pollution in parks and caused airlines to redirect flight paths in order to better preserve “natural quiet." As the sole sponsor of this quest we will do what we can to ensure that work of raising awareness on noise pollution in national parks can continue. Currently Gordon is currently looking to conduct an acoustic survey to locate feasible one-inch sites in the ten national parks on the UNESCO World Heritage List. TRANS>PARENT RADIATION: In the past four years we have watched the proliferation of quality online audio releases from such labels as Stasisfield, CON-V, Thinner/Autoplate and TERM. Our appreciation of these happenings has led to us desiring to share audio in a similar way. Each TRANS>PARENT RADIATION release will be made available for a limited time as high quality (192kbs) downloadable MP3 audio and then later issued as professionally duplicated, silk-screened CDRs with professionally printed handmade packaging. The edition runs will be small (50 – 100), hand numbered, and NOT reissued. Avaliable now: TRANS001 Spellewauerynsherde, Interpretations Various & Sundry Info: Utilizing source material taken from reel to reel recordings of Icelandic accapella lament songs made in the late 1960's or early 1970's 10 sound artists interpret these haunting sounds in their compositions. A CD LP by Akira Rabelais based on this source material can be found at Samadhi Sound. Audio by Christian Fennesz, Kit Clayton, Taylor Deupree, Josh Russell, Carmern Baier, Nobukaza Takemura, Alejandra & Aeron, Stephan Mathieu, Steve Roden, and i8u. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 19:42:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34300-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15508 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:42:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 15482 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:42:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:46:09 -0500 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] copyright, sound, and motorcycles To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/articles/content/1998101101.html i had heard about this before, but i stumbled upon this article again while doing some research for a paper on film sound design and techno... although, this is about the sound of harley-davidson engines, it actually has some interesting ramifications on music and sound design, i think... g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 19:14:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34299-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 674 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:14:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 664 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:14:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:13:28 -0500 From: Jim Kennedy <xxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] events in paris To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'll be in Paris 18 Feb to 26 Feb. Does anyone know of any interesting events? Recommendations for venues, galleries etc... thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 17:48:33 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34298-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58062 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:47:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 58043 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:47:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:47:11 -0600 From: Jeremy Dickens <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Collaborative Project - Call for participants To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is just a quick message to let all of you know that there's a new project afoot at offnominal.com called The Treatment Plant. It involves a disc once lost, source materials, Creative Commons, genetic remixing, open-ended structures, 'net-mediated collaboration and the opportunity to go absolutely hog-wild with a bunch of sounds. Consider this an open invitation... Visit the project page at http://www.offnominal.com/music/treatmentplant/ for the goods, and/or read more about it at the blog via http://www.offnominal.com/blog/index.php?p=25 . On Valentine's Day, Logickal's Treatment Plant 1 (what an imaginative title, no?) will be released in order to add more fuel to the fire. This is a project with very few "rules" other than the choice of sound material - no rules of style or content, provided that it is all sourced from the sounds on the webpage. Again, check the links above for more information and discussion. Feel free to ask me any questions at all - hope to hear from some of you soon! ::: Jeremy Dickens / Logickal xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx http://www.offnominal.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 17:20:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34297-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49164 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:19:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 49153 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:19:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:19:23 +0000 From: paulo raposo || sirr <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] SIRR birthday performance and more To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2D539B.12927%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello to all, We are celebrating the 4th year of SIRR this February with a special performance and a double album release featuring 21 challenging artists. The birthday-performance and release event will happen here: February 25th Andre Gonçalves, Rui Costa, Paulo Raposo ZDB Gallery Lisbon, Portugal and for a limited time only to coincide with the new releases, we are offering everybody the chance to complete their collection of SIRR catalogue: Buy 4 cds and receive 7 for the special price of 50 Euros. More info at: http://www.sirr-ecords.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 16:40:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34296-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 38246 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:39:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 38236 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:39:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:43:38 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] PIXEL TRACKING In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You might also look at GEM and PDP, which are externals for Pure Data, and are free + open source. In general, I would recommend scanning over the 0xff mailing list for image processing, as that might be more on-topic there: http://www.music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/0xff best, derek xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx wrote: > hello all.. > im usually just absorbing all the different discussions but tonight i have a question i hope you guys can help me with. > is anyone familar with pixel tracking as a controller for manipulating audio or creating ramdom algorythms?...a friend told me i should look into EYESWEB (a max/msp - like program that is free for the pc....) > but before i start looking into programs i wanted to get some background information...does anyone use pixel tracking for audio manipulation or video work? any writings or people i should look into? > any help would be appreciated...thanks -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 16:35:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34295-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 11:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 35745 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:35:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 35732 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:35:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:33:06 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] PIXEL TRACKING In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20050111 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx wrote: > hello all.. > im usually just absorbing all the different discussions but tonight i have a question i hope you guys can help me with. > is anyone familar with pixel tracking as a controller for manipulating audio or creating ramdom algorythms?...a friend told me i should look into EYESWEB (a max/msp - like program that is free for the pc....) > but before i start looking into programs i wanted to get some background information...does anyone use pixel tracking for audio manipulation or video work? any writings or people i should look into? > any help would be appreciated...thanks > I uses tracking in pieces for dance theater and art installations. Can you give more details so we can help more precisly? On aspect is the budget but lets assume its low and the more expensive IR tracking systems are out of reach. You can get decent results with USB Webcams but they might have 2 issues you should consider: - latency, USB2.0 helps a bit but Firewire is superior. Its not that big and dont want to scare you but it depends on your application. - noise, especially in a lowlit environment. Webcams with ccd are better than cmos chip, which I tend to call better photocells. Software: basic tracking can be done in Max/MSP Jitter or for free in PD and GEM. It has the advantage all is in one softwarepackage, analysis and (sound) synthesis. Eyesweb is free too and has also basic synthesis modules but this is not its main feature. It has superior modules for analysing motion data and give you loads of information, not only a x/y position, also the amount and speed for instance. It can speak midi and osc, the latter I use to combine it with computers for processing the data. Here a more simple example complete done with Max/MSP Jitter and a webcam: http://www.elektronengehirn.de/cellLab.htm Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- Next events: 11. february Elektronengehirn Concert at Dorkbot Ghent, Belgium more at blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 15:22:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34294-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4432 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:21:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 4422 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:21:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:20:52 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] computer art In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 4, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > well it had to happen eventually: the uber-geeksters at /. are > 'debating' (I use that term loosely here) computer art! Looks like another uninformed slashdot circle jerk to me. Not being the circle jerk type, I think I shall ignore this. Besides, I think we all had this discussion a few years ago... *shiver* - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 14:13:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34292-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 82118 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:05:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 82108 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:05:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:03:10 -0600 From: "s. arden hill" <x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] s. arden hill/duul_drv in Brandon, Manitoba - Tonight X-Originating-IP: [24.66.94.141] X-Sender: x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [x_xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2005 14:04:00.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF9CE020:01C50D1D] For anyone interested or in the neighbourhood I will be attending the Brandon New Music Festival Tonight Monday February 7th, 2005 for a premiere of a piece I worked on. I collaborated with percussionist Ben Reimer who is performing several pieces from Steve Reich & John Cage. Together we created a rendition of John Cage's Composed Improvisations for One-sided Drums with and without Jangles. It is rather difficult to describe the process of how we obtained our results, so I won't try to get into it. All I will say is there was a lot of rolling of dice and drawing out results from a hat. I used audiomulch and about 40 filters. It sounds fabulous. If you can make it, it is at 8 o'clock in the recital hall in the school of Music at the University of Brandon in Brandon, Manitoba. Hope to see you there s. 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Mon Feb 7 15:00:53 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34293-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 96750 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:00:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 96740 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:00:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:00:24 -0500 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Network Feedback In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Feb 3, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Phil Thomson wrote: > Along the general lines of network feedback, I wonder if anyone has > explored the potential of audio feedback loops over a network. > Something like having two computers broadcasting audio to each other > but also receiving audio from each other in such a way so as to create > a feedback loop. Are there precedents for this kind of thing? Aside > from the conceptual interest of such an approach, is there aesthetic > and musical interest? Lack of aesthetic and musical interest hasn't stopped anyone before. ;-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 07:38:11 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34291-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59051 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 07:38:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 59041 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 07:38:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:38:03 +0200 From: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Katja Zavoloka live on Clubtransmediale.05! // Nexsound X-Originating-IP: 172.16.20.2 via proxy gt3.firmatmm.com.ua [193.201.27.41] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello friends! new raising star on ukrainian label Nexsound - Katja Zavoloka - will play live on this year's Clubtransmediale festival in Berlin on Wednesday 9.02.2005. Born in 1981, Katja Zavoloka is a musician and graphic designer from Kiev. Her music is very unusual and challenging from the structural point of view and sometimes combines electronic sounds with rough unprocessed voices, sung by common Ukrainian people. She releases on Andrey Kiritchenko’s Nexsound Label, Laton and Zeromoon and has a collaboration project with Berlin’s poetess and musician AGF. you better hear her... more info and Zavoloka's music could be found here: - http://www.clubtransmediale.de - http://www.zavoloka.com - http://www.nexsound.org - - - all the best, Kotra http://kotra.org.ua http://nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Feb 7 03:44:26 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34290-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17556 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 03:44:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 17546 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 03:44:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:44:16 -0500 (EST) From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] PIXEL TRACKING X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PHP Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 4e26a3fb5db8c54092839fedc580cb91 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello all.. im usually just absorbing all the different discussions but tonight i have a question i hope you guys can help me with. is anyone familar with pixel tracking as a controller for manipulating audio or creating ramdom algorythms?...a friend told me i should look into EYESWEB (a max/msp - like program that is free for the pc....) but before i start looking into programs i wanted to get some background information...does anyone use pixel tracking for audio manipulation or video work? any writings or people i should look into? any help would be appreciated...thanks Carlos _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 6 18:40:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34289-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75649 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:40:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 75638 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:40:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:49:14 -0800 (PST) From: William Tsun-Yuk Hsu <xxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] tcpdump to /dev/audio, etc In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:34:00AM -0800, Kim Cascone wrote: > where can someone cat tcpdump to in Darwin? since there is no /dev/dsp > or /dev/audio in the /dev dir If you're worried about OpenAudio, portaudio is pretty reliable: http://www.portaudio.com. You'll have to hack a small utility that takes (say) standard input, dump it to a buffer, then play the buffer in a callback function. Then pipe tcpdump's output to it. (I'd offer to hack one, but I'm totally swamped at the moment...) Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Feb 6 17:31:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34288-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58201 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:31:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 58190 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:31:27 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:31:24 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] shell stuff To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > kim;you can also cat tcpdump to a text file (use the ">" symbol with > cat instead of "|") and then use soundhack/amadeus/etc to hack a > header on it. yeah I've been doing this...also, you can do this from within Max using the [shell] object...just translate the output to ascii (or whatever type of numbers you want), connect it to the DAC and voila... thanks to Tad for the ascii hack! :) if any Maxers want to see Tad's patch (with a couple of my hacks bolted on) I will UL to the microsound hotline server... > when discussion of this type of thing came up recently on databenders > (i think), someone suggested using SOX, which can receive data via > pipe and encode it into audio immediately. > > sox compiles on osx, but you may also snag it with fink, i believe. I highly suggest as an alt to Fink using Darwinports which has sox 12.17.7 to get started with darwinports check out: http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/docs/ch01s03.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 5 14:53:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34287-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94277 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:53:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 94262 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:53:26 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:53:18 +0100 From: sv <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] mousikelab artgallery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: fr-fr, fr Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr-FR; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BE2A7E01.731E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx good good good goood gooood thanx >Hello everybody, > >You are invited to see the exposure of Miguel Angel F. 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Sat Feb 5 14:46:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34286-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92431 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:46:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 92421 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:46:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:46:15 +0100 From: Guillaume Grenier <xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Ondes Martinot... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2A9AC7.10068%xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 28/01/05 23:29, Josh Ronsen said in living color: > In 1937 Oliver Messiaen wrote a piece for 6 Ondes > Martenots, "Fetes Des Belles Eaux." The library near > to me has the score but not a recording of it. There is a way to hear at least part of it... The 5th movement of "Quatuor pour la fin du temps", titled "Louange à l'éternité de Jésus" (a cello cantilena with a simple piano accompaniment), is actually a transcription of a piece ("Oraison") excerpted from "Fêtes des belles eaux". g. -- Guillaume Grenier - xxxxxxx.x@xxxxxxxxx.xx "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before." (Dwight Eisenhower) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 5 12:43:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34285-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 07:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 07:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71618 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:43:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 71601 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:43:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:43:29 +0100 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] mousikelab artgallery To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2A7E01.731E%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MG8OzIqjk4rp68qYHsVeGQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MG8OzIqjk4rp68qYHsVeGQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody, You are invited to see the exposure of Miguel Angel F. Martin http://www.mousikelab.it/artgallery/ndex.htm Best marco messina http://www.mousikelab.com/ --Boundary_(ID_MG8OzIqjk4rp68qYHsVeGQ)-- From ???@??? Sat Feb 5 00:30:19 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34284-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8577 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:30:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 8567 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:30:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:28:45 -0600 From: jake elliott <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] /dev/audio:/dev/dsp To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: jake elliott <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LjZzZzZzLKh8g0yyPIujtbONEMyicscoJNdECUrZn0Unto39DjHYfLO78dsNxaBYUAT67jL3GLQEdODBN+wBVCU18oyRM/xahMO4Re2wkToVMgm+8wv2chiYxqFxW3bS+JINRbeT9dg37j5VnM91WkX6AexfTPpcQa4YNkWCBvM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx kim;you can also cat tcpdump to a text file (use the ">" symbol with cat instead of "|") and then use soundhack/amadeus/etc to hack a header on it. ie: cat tcpdump > dumpfile1 you'll then have to interrupt this process with cmd-period when you feel you've collected enough data. maybe some *real* unix geek can correct me or improve on some of this? best jake when discussion of this type of thing came up recently on databenders (i think), someone suggested using SOX, which can receive data via pipe and encode it into audio immediately. sox compiles on osx, but you may also snag it with fink, i believe. -jake On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:08:25 +0000, Domonkos Nagy <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > use openaudio for that... > http://opendarwin.org/projects/OpenAudio/ > > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:34:00AM -0800, Kim Cascone wrote: > > where can someone cat tcpdump to in Darwin? since there is no /dev/dsp > > or /dev/audio in the /dev dir > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Feb 5 00:27:45 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34283-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7058 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:27:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 7048 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:27:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:27:33 -0600 From: jake elliott <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] /dev/audio:/dev/dsp In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: jake elliott <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=o4A241t0grbTKHvNzQl8EbBUbnky5iUjOKNtBGa6yC97s5jmtmYK1nR1V/8h5uKQXWRx/erZ0obkhLCZ5uTCsEY5x01UlPKK89MMXBf4yybcG8GVf2htZvJ+835MrGNoGzq8Sf3AvMh8x4E2bzoI5RqciF7HSvNnuCl5Z218iBo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wow! thanks for the link, dom; openaudio looks pretty exciting. kim;you can also cat tcpdump to a text file (use the ">" symbol with cat instead of "|") and then use soundhack/amadeus/etc to hack a header on it. ie: cat tcpdump > dumpfile1 you'll then have to interrupt this process with cmd-period when you feel you've collected enough data. maybe some *real* unix geek can correct me or improve on some of this? best jake when discussion of this type of thing came up recently on databenders (i think), someone suggested using SOX, which can receive data via pipe and encode it into audio immediately. sox compiles on osx, but you may also snag it with fink, i believe. -jake On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:08:25 +0000, Domonkos Nagy <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > use openaudio for that... > http://opendarwin.org/projects/OpenAudio/ > > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:34:00AM -0800, Kim Cascone wrote: > > where can someone cat tcpdump to in Darwin? since there is no /dev/dsp > > or /dev/audio in the /dev dir > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 21:48:14 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34282-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42130 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:48:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 42120 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:48:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:47:57 -0500 From: earphone <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] call for works : earphone music (update) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx greetings, updated call for works@ http://www.earphonemusic.com cheers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 20:31:37 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34281-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8399 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:31:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 8383 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:31:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:31:20 +0100 From: John Maxwell Hobbs <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fresh Ambient Music Composed Daily - Cinema Volta Daily Ambience To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cinema Volta Daily Ambience - An experiment in podcasting certain to tax my server, my bandwidth, my creativity and my endurance. I will be composing, recording and releasing a new ambient track daily for the next year. You can find all this at http://www.cinemavolta.com/daily -------------------------------- John Maxwell Hobbs xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Cinema Volta - Interactive Music on the Web: http://www.cinemavolta.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 19:35:32 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34280-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 86546 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:35:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 86534 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:35:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:35:24 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] computer art To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx well it had to happen eventually: the uber-geeksters at /. are 'debating' (I use that term loosely here) computer art! the s/n is high with the occasional accidental insightful comment...interesting to watch them chew on it though: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/02/04/0334230.shtml? tid=152&tid=188&tid=1 tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/3mm9t and follow the link the essay the original poster wrote too: http://www.apple-x.net/modules.php? op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1321&mode=thread&order=1&thold=-1 here's the tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/627sa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 16:40:22 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34279-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6732 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:40:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 6718 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:40:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 08:35:16 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OpenAudio To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > use openaudio for that... > http://opendarwin.org/projects/OpenAudio/ > how safe is this on a non-openDarwin OS? does it work on reg. Darwin? does anyone have experience with the OpenAudio kext on Darwin? i.e. kernal panic, et al... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 11:19:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34278-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 06:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 06:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20880 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:19:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 20870 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:19:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:19:05 +0000 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Is Computer-Created Art, Art? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 11:20:11.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D7C9850:01C50AAB] No, I'm not asking that question, but I saw it asked on Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/04/ 0334230&tid=152&tid=188&tid=1 In light of the discussions over the past few months, I thought the list would find this discussion deeply amusing. -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Feb 4 11:08:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34277-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 06:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 06:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14649 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:08:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 14639 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:08:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:07:07 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] INTERPLAY 3 next week w. Pole, Schmickler, Deadbeat, Mathieu, Scanner + more X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06110405be28f98f4616@[217.44.185.223]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qrIz4zpzGxZTek9soXZ3BA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qrIz4zpzGxZTek9soXZ3BA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ================================ S P R A W L February 2005 bulletin ================================ Sprawl presents INTERPLAY 3 Interplay is back for 2005 next week in London; line up: Weds 9th Feb POLE (scape/mute) + DEADBEAT (scape/Intr_version) MARKUS SCHMICKLER (pluramon) + THOMAS LEHN (mimeo) MAX EASTLEY (obscure/bip hop) + FREEFORM (skam/sub rosa) Thurs 10th Feb STEPHAN MATHIEU (orthlorng/sirr) + SI-CUT.DB (fallt/bip-hop/hpll) LEAFCUTTER JOHN (planet mu) + JANEK SCHAEFER (audiOh!/sirr) SCANNER (sub rosa/bette) + IRIS GARRELFS (bip hop) + both nights: a selection of audio-visual collaborations (with Kid606, Burnt Friedmann & others) by D-fuse full info on acts: http://www.sprawl.org.uk/EventFrame.htm VENUE: The Spitz, Spitalfields Market, 109 Commercial Street, London E1 8BG http://www.spitz.co.uk/ 8pm - midnight PRICE: £8 / £6 concs, £12 for both nights BOX OFFICE: 020 7392 9032 ONLINE BOOKING: http://www.wegottickets.com This project is supported by the Goethe-Institut London and the PRS Foundation ================================ On the radio: next Sprawl Small Pieces show: feat. excerpts from previous Interplays & also material by interplay 3 acts. This Friday 4th feb 12-1am. GMT. Resonance FM 104.4 http://www.resonancefm.com ================================ Future Sprawls at http://www.charterhousebar.co.uk * Sprawl March 9th Tuner (Fr), The Bohman Brothers, Rashamon, e/n [no.signal] * Sprawl April 13th Antonelli Electr (italic/background), We're Breaking Up (twothousandand), Richard Fontenoy + more tba [] some related artist activities ================================ si-cut.db, Iris Garrelfs - live sets etc ================================ FEB 4 SI-CUT.DB/IRIS GARRELFS present the Sprawl Small Pieces radio show (see above) on http://www.resonancefm.com & Resonance 104.4 FM in London FEB 10 SI-CUT.DB/IRIS GARRELFS Interplay 3, see above MAR 3 SI-CUT.DB - live Cube Cinema, Bristol, UK http://www.cubecinema.com MAR 4 Field 61 radio show w. IRIS GARRELFS & Kaffe Matthews 21.30-22.30 GMT on http://www.resonancefm.com & Resonance 104.4 FM in London MAR 16 SI-CUT.DB - live Cambridge, UK info <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MAR 29 SI-CUT.DB - live Passive Aggressive night, Volks Tavern. Brighton, UK http://www.passive-aggressive.co.uk ================================ si-cut.db / iris garrelfs - releases ================================ NEAR (out soon) SI-CUT.DB new album on Bip-Hop, 'From Tears: Beach Archive'. Bleep 28. mastered by Twerk, inc. quicktime movie by pixelwrangler. IRIS GARRELFS debut album, 'Specified Encounters' due on Bip Hop Bleep 29. SI-CUT.DB download track on http://www.thinnerism.com compilation. CURRENT SI-CUT.DB remix of Pan/tone's 'Sans Adore' on Pan/tone double CD 'newfound urban calm' on Bip Hop [bleep 26/27] http://www.bip-hop.com RT-32 Acoustic.Space.Lab: Radio Astronomy DVD/CD with tracks by IRIS GARRELFS, TENNIS, SI-CUT.DB, scanner, kaffe matthews, rosy parlane + more http://acoustic.space.re-lab.net http://rixc.lv SI-CUT.DB 'Offices at Night Vol 1 - Originals' Part 1 of a 3 CD/download set to be continued... http://www.fallt.com/offices/index.html si-cut.db back catalogue & rarities can be paid via paypal write to <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> for full list. ================================ TENNIS (si-cut.db + benge) ================================ CURRENT: RT-32 Acoustic.Space.Lab : Radio Astronomy CD/DVD see above. Upcoming tracks for Bip Hop generaton v.8 CD, and and the Tribryd unMix CD project, all TBA ALSO: original 1st Tennis album Wooden Sweets still available, info <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> SPRAWL WEBSITE ================================ http://www.sprawl.org.uk ++ Sprawl events plus EXCLUSIVELY thru' our website only release mail order of SPRAWL IMPRINT, SUBURBS OF HELL & PANTUNES classic 'retronica' catalogue. Paypal available. http://www.sprawl.org.uk/LabelFrame.html http://www.sprawl.org.uk/VaultFrame.html (in collaboration with dfuse) best wishes ================================ Iris Garrelfs [BitTonic] http://www.irisgarrelfs.com http://www.dfuse.com/BitTonic http://www.dfuse.com/iris si-cut.db [d.benford] http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/benford http://www.bip-hop.com/ http://www.highpointlowlife.com http://www.fallt.com http://www.background-records.de SPRAWL http://www.sprawl.org.uk E-MAIL <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> --Boundary_(ID_qrIz4zpzGxZTek9soXZ3BA)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 21:07:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34276-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63834 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 21:07:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 63822 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 21:07:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:07:22 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] web help To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: saylor john <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsounders, the microsound list needs two or three people to work on our web site and TWiki server...we have some tasks that need to be done asap... you need to have experience with apache servers, PERL, html, blah...no n00bs plz contact the microsound webmaster: John Saylor xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx ***and please Cc: me on all correspondence? for more information on what needs to be done... thanks! 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Thu Feb 3 20:47:38 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34275-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55389 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:47:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 55367 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:47:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 21:47:29 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound]'S T A L A G M I E T E N 2' In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302be283e273ab0@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ' S T A L A G M I E T E N 2 ' part 2 of an electro-acoustic composition - Arie van Schutterhoef - http://knorretje.hku.nl/~schreck/SmietMP3/Stalagmiet2.mp3 Realized in the home-studio of the composer. Original sounds recorded with the BassBoxes http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/bassbox.html in the 'Veem'-Theatre, Amsterdam, during recording sessions with Hans van Eck and Hans van Koolwijk. Recorded different flutes on the BassBoxes, through extreme close-miking to capture the varying spectra and timbres, that were triggered by tightly structured pulse-trains, according to the Fibonacci-series. Sound treatment using different FFT-processes and cross-convolution. Used programs were 'Ceres3','MetaSynth', ' SoundHack', 'SonicWorx Artist' and 'Csound' running on Silicon Graphics and Apple Computers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 18:55:30 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34274-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 11791 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:55:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 11778 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:55:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:55:11 -0700 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Network Feedback In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06100509be2823ab6eb8@[192.168.0.15]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx FYI, there is a project that got the grand prize at the Machida netart project -- ping melody -- http://wrocenter.pl/projects/ping/index.html the web site might give you some ideas about data stream inputs... jh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 18:34:10 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34273-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 390 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:34:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 379 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:34:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:36 -0500 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ontopic/offtopic RICHARD CHARTIER > 02.05 > news/event/release update + HEY ITS A FREE RINGTONE! :) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_TqzxLhUMVUWRchwqx0HmZQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_TqzxLhUMVUWRchwqx0HmZQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello to everyone, happy winter to you all... and happy upcoming valentines day (one of my least favorite days of the year) hope love is in the air for you ... r - - CURRENT + UPCOMING EVENTS - - > EXHIBIT . CHESSMACHINE audio/concept @ Transmediale05 [ Berlin, Germany ] Feb 2005 http://transmediale.de > LIVE . Presences Electronique [ Paris, France ] Feb 19, 2005 http://www.ina.fr/grm/agenda/pad > LIVE . CHESSMACHINE.2.0 @ Visual Music: See Hear Now LAMOCA [ Los Angeles ] Feb 25 2005 w/ Carter Tutti http://www.moca.org/seehearnow - - NEW RELEASES AVAILABLE ON 3PARTICLES.COM PAYPAL SITE - - > AVAILABLE NOW . CD . CHESSMACHINE. Mutek_Rec. back in stock online. http://www.3particles.com/chessmachine > AVAILABLE NOW . CD . Set or Performance [ LINE, US ] Live performance recording release. > AVAILABLE NOW . CD . Edition [ LINE, US ] special limited edition packaging 4 CD set entitled Edition. Edition is a collection of the 4 critically acclaimed full length LINE cd releases: Series from 2000 (LINE_001), Of Surfaces from 2002 (LINE_008), Two Locations from 2003 (LINE_013), and the brand new live recording Set or Performance (LINE_018). special re-packaging release is strictly limited to 100 signed and numbered units. This cd will only be available through the 12k/LINE website store, 3particles.com, and my live shows. selling rather briskly from the website so dont miss out. > AVAILABLE NOW. 12". (1.8)sec.comp [ (1.8)sec.records, Canada ] Includes tracks by Richard Chartier, Tim Hecker, Mitchell Akiyama, Duul_Drv, Taylor Deupree, Kim Cascone, 3x3is9, Roel Meelkop each track ends with a lock groove. numbered edition of 500 on white vinyl. > AVAILABLE NOW . CD . Kapotte Muziek by Richard Chartier & Boca Raton. Korm Plastics. ongoing series using Kapotte Muziek concert as source material a limited number of copies of these & other releases are available signed via the ONLINE STORE http://www.3particles.com/paypal - - ALSO... - - > FREE RINGTONE . transmediale.05 and sonic( )bject have collaborated to produce a special edition of original ringtones created by transmediale's artists. The edition is exhibited at transmediale's venue, and online where the ringtones are downloadable to visitors' phones. http://www.sonicobject.com/tm.05, and during the whole transmediale.05 festival (Feb 4 to Feb 8 2005, Berlin, DE), instructions are given to download the ringtones of the festival's artists directly to the phones. In transmediale's exhibition space, an audio-visual installation features the ringtones and elaborates on the creation process of the artists. At random intervals, the installation rings, drawing the attention of the passers-by. sonic( )bject is a music label specialised in creative ringtones. Its site features 250+ sonic objects created by contemporary composers, musicians, artists and designers for the mobile phone. The ringtones are on sale and directly downloadable to a user's phone in some countries. sonic( )bject collaborates with festivals and music labels to produce special editions of artists' ringtones. sonic( )bject was founded in 2004 by Antoine Schmitt and Adrian Johnson. > ARTICLE . There is a very nice full page article by susanna bolle in the latest GROOVES magazine.... find out what color crayon i liked as a child. > FREE STREAMING RADIO SET . i was asked by William Basinski to create and hour long mix for his SLIPSTREAM show presented online by PS1/MOMA's WPS1 ART RADIO. now available for streamed listening. Full track listing is on the site as well. along with other beautiful shows by William. LINK > http://www.wps1.org/include/shows/Sonorama.html#slipstream - - UPCOMING RELEASES, ETC - - > CD . 35 Mutant Seconds: based on Rafael Toral´s Creamy Burst. [ Grain of Sound, Portugal ] features reworks using a Toral guitar piece from 1991 as source material. My piece was selected from a series of 3 improvisations. the piece is dedicated to the Tsunami victims. other artists include: Pita, Fonica, Sawako, John Kannenberg, Stapletape and Allto. WINTER 2005. http://www.grainofsound.com > CD . Retrieval [ ERS, The Netherlands ]. This will be two works that were created at my artist residency at the Music Research Centre @ York University, UK. based on soundfiles and loops of mine from 1990-1993. plus an extended reworking of "Retrieval 3" + 2 additional retrieval pieces. WINTER 2005. http://radiantslab.com/ers > 2CD . Re'post'post-fabricated [ DSP Recordings, Italy ] This 2CD project will have the reformed/remastered Post-Fabricated CD (originally issued on CDR on Dutch label Microwave in 1999 as an edition of 222). I was never happy with the sound quality of the final master due to the engineer and my analog recording limitations at the time. I recently uncovered the original sound file elements backups and have reconstructed it in its full digital vitality. This is an odd recording for me, which you could say is my most "pop" release in its quirky rhythmic elements. The second CD will be comprised of remixes/reworkings from the original files by Frank Bretschneider, COH, Taylor Deupree, Freiband, Goem, Alva Noto, Byetone, Sogar, SND, Asmus Tietchens, Vend, Matmos, Steve Roden, and myself. I have received all of the remixes and they are wonderful and fun.... http://www.dsprecs.com. WINTER 2005 > CD . Placode [ n160, Japan ] This elaborately aluminum packaged cd compilation curated by Nibo [ LINE/Raster-Noton] will contain the piece "retrieval#3(for placodes). artists on this compilation: Carsten Nicolai, Christophe Charles, Frank Bretschneider, Nibo, Byetone, Richard Chartier, Sachiko.M, Sogar, Steve Roden, Taylor Deupree, and Otomo Yoshihide. http://www.n160.com. DELAYED 2005 > CD . Incidence [ Raster-Noton. Germany ] I have finished the final version of this work. just doing some final touches on this subtle recording. it will be a single 64 minute work. 2005 > CD . Mort Aux Vaches with Taylor Deupree [ VPRO ] 2005. Taylor and I have been asked to record a live performance for this great series. > BOOK . "On the surface of silence: reticence in the music of Richard Chartier" by Will Montgomery in BLOCKS OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE UNBROKEN CONTINUUM. a really great indepth study of my work. Publisher: Sound 323. Editors: Brian Marley+Mark Wastell. DELAYED SPRING 2005. --Boundary_(ID_TqzxLhUMVUWRchwqx0HmZQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 17:43:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34272-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84395 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:43:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 84384 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:43:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:43:42 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] early microsound:Roberta Settels info In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NVqRvyo4npoKoyf4kVSDwQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NVqRvyo4npoKoyf4kVSDwQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im looking for info on a very early microsound record: Roberta Settels "isolation meinhof in memoriam" label: Music in crisis 1986 the recording is a very early example of microsound aestethic, extremely silent and minimal - one long track consists mainly of white noise others of tape spliced voices , deep bass drones etc - it would be interesting to find out about other releases - a google and discogs search reveals nothing... Settels was somewhat involved in the Swedish Fylkingen scene and made short movies and music and thats about what I have found out so far. I remember Taylor Dupree asked this question in an old thread without getting feedback... tm --Boundary_(ID_NVqRvyo4npoKoyf4kVSDwQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 17:33:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34271-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79047 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:33:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 79037 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:33:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:33:20 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_b6mLvMu8o+Vk9X618zEVYw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_b6mLvMu8o+Vk9X618zEVYw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sorry if I expressed myself unclear - the version im lookung for is nor´t cool edit v.153. nor cool edit 95 or 96 must be an early beta version long gone from the net.. there are so few parameters so the sound is somewhat immediate... tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> wrote:could you post a link to this even earlier file? and if there are any special settings made in the NR section to achieve this special sound, it would be nice of you to give a short info on them. tl. batch totem schrieb: >file works ok - I had a autoexec.nt problem (problem with 16 bit programs) - found another copy of the file -but it's not cool edit v.153 - must be an even earlier version... > >I wouldent try so hard to obtain this program if it werent because the noise reduction sounds so unique - ofcourse it is similar to the improved feature in new cool edit versions, but much more smooth with fewer artifacts and somewhat "analouge" sounding - I found it very usefull to use it like a kind the opposite of residual synthesis /resynthesis tool - take fx a piece of classical music or whatever and process it...you can get results that leaves "extracts" from the original with only certain frequencies remaining. the improved noise reduction in cool edit or noise reduction plug ins in general do the same - but they simply dont SOUND the same.. > >TM > >tl wrote:strange, >the file worked for me without problems >(it's an old 'win-zip' selfextracting exe-file and is 832 kb big/little; >get this 'DOS file' icon, too, but no error message). >I'm on windows xp, too. > >maybe redownload. > >tl. > > >batch totem schrieb: > > > >>errror message when trying to start the program - get an icon like it is a DOS file :-( >> >>(windows xp) >> >>but could be that version... >> >>tl wrote: >>Maybe this one: >>*http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe >> >>tl. >>* >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_b6mLvMu8o+Vk9X618zEVYw)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 17:01:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34269-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59762 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:01:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 59750 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:01:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:16:34 -0500 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Network Feedback In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 05.02.03 06:43 -0800 ) Phil Thomson: > Along the general lines of network feedback, I wonder if anyone has > explored the potential of audio feedback loops over a network. haven't heard of it. it's so easy to do other ways [dsp, tape loops] that perhaps the overhead involved is not worth the effort. -- \js \`& ? 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Thu Feb 3 17:12:42 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34270-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65185 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:12:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 65175 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:12:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:15:43 +0100 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Network Feedback In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Use (shout/ice)cast or some similar software to stream audio out, and then pick it up at different points in the network to get different latencies. Back in the crazy old net.radio days, we used to do these streaming experiments between Riga, London, Vienna, Prague and other places. It was sort of a round-robin, where people would start a stream and hook in at different nodes. The different nodes would decode the stream and add or subtract sounds, then send it along to the next one. With a big enough loop, the sounds would return to their origin up to 15 minutes [!!!!] later, having been modified extensively along the way. An open loop with no modifications would eventually produce a looooonnng wailing sound. d. john saylor wrote: > hi > > ( 05.02.03 06:43 -0800 ) Phil Thomson: > >>Along the general lines of network feedback, I wonder if anyone has >>explored the potential of audio feedback loops over a network. > > > haven't heard of it. it's so easy to do other ways [dsp, tape loops] > that perhaps the overhead involved is not worth the effort. > -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 16:11:06 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34268-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 34218 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:11:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 34208 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:11:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:11:23 -0600 From: MsgLists <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] traffic analysis To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <000e01c50a0b$01acff80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host32.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - csorg.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've had a passing interest in this over the years, having done some different experiments with databending. A few interesting network audio related items that I'm aware of: Andrea Polli did a gate page for The Whitney's Artport (http://www.whitney.org/artport/gatepages/may04.shtml), which is a live sonification of weather data (a specific sort of network traffic). Andrea has used Max/MSP in a number of projects, and co-developed a new Max object for use in the project. Datareader can be found here: http://www.andreapolli.com/datareader/ This will probably be useful to those of you capturing data from tcpdump and/or other packet sniffers. The open-source carnivore client on Rhizome has been used for a number of different projects, capturing packets to produce all sort of audio and visual interpretations. They have clients for both Windows and OS X, and sample code for Flash, Java, Director, Perl and Visual Basic. My personal favorite is the Carnivore Client Home Module by Cory Arcangel (http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/carnivore/). For the Jackal Project at version.02 festival (at the MCA Chicago), we did our own "collage" work using packet data from the web surfers at the festival. We then did a public reading of some of the emails captured. Fun stuff. http://www.rhizome.org/carnivore/ Another interesting one, N.A.G. (Network Auralization for Gnutella): http://www.jasonfreeman.net/Catalog/electronic/nag.html __________________________________________ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist and Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.csorg.org -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] >> just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip,=20 >> as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing >> through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a=20 >> music project.=20 > > this is a particularly interesting suggestion as I'm currently working >on a sound > installation that uses data gathered from web services and used in a Max patch... > q's: >- what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? >- what format is this data stored in? xml, mySQL, spreadsheet >(tab/space delimited text) etc? >- can you put some of this data on the hotline server for me to look at? >:) >KIM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 1/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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Thu Feb 3 16:08:40 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34267-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32878 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:08:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 32862 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:08:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:08:25 +0000 From: Domonkos Nagy <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] /dev/audio:/dev/dsp In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx-xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2005 16:08:26.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[97F231F0:01C50A0A] use openaudio for that... http://opendarwin.org/projects/OpenAudio/ On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:34:00AM -0800, Kim Cascone wrote: > where can someone cat tcpdump to in Darwin? since there is no /dev/dsp > or /dev/audio in the /dev dir > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 15:34:07 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34266-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16022 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:34:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 15997 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:34:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:34:00 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] /dev/audio:/dev/dsp To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx where can someone cat tcpdump to in Darwin? since there is no /dev/dsp or /dev/audio in the /dev dir --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 14:43:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34265-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95396 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:43:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 95386 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:43:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:43:05 -0800 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Network Feedback In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DhXYxUYAGUcAGW1qryHQBuG53uVsBkvLLvmMrNaYhykeY9a1C20mpAnNgvrbmUd68VGUH+IiywRSCpGvxo82tFCZvgl9Jc2nGd2OqdXmPMC4lVnhvpzmj3GBqGNTl5kMlZqtxzLHtuQONvfeE9We0tFHL4wDCHnCvJfIpmh9lXw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Along the general lines of network feedback, I wonder if anyone has explored the potential of audio feedback loops over a network. Something like having two computers broadcasting audio to each other but also receiving audio from each other in such a way so as to create a feedback loop. Are there precedents for this kind of thing? Aside from the conceptual interest of such an approach, is there aesthetic and musical interest? PT -- Phil Thomson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/ { blog: http://philthomson.blogspot.com/ { blog2: http://www.bloglines.com/blog/PhilThomson { label: http://centibel.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 13:23:43 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34264-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 76539 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:23:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 76528 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:23:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:23:10 +0100 From: COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] traffic analysis To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JrKdiKdzMc8JMTCB/AF3kw)" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: traffic analysis Thread-index: AcUJ0t3X5XLEm5BvT0WWmAQKhF7nNQAB66lg Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2005 13:23:11.0007 (UTC) FILETIME=[81D85AF0:01C509F3] --Boundary_(ID_JrKdiKdzMc8JMTCB/AF3kw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Great links! And a "digital wind chime" is a perfect way to phrase what I'm aiming at, music from the ether winds. The Ping Melody is an interesting project as it combines a live performance with the variances of network traffic. The second project is probably closer to what I have in mind right now, although it´s difficult to figure out exactly what they´re doing to "pluck the network" - Both projects seem to be using pings (icmp) as the only variable of the traffic. > - what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? I have an "invisible" Linux bridge/IDS, so all traffic on this network is piped through this box. On here I then have Snort - logging to a MySQL database. Currently this is simply an IDS used for security and general analysis. Snort seems perfect for a project like this because it can parse the traffic and create output based on whatever you wish to implement (by writing your own 'rules'). So different types of traffic can easily be converted into a useful format. For example, if I wanted to create a different chime sound for each server/workstation, then perhaps a different pitch for each chime reflecting the type of traffic (email, web, dns, ping, etc...) I would write a snort rule that would create output based on this... alert tcp SERVERx 21 -> any any (msg:"chime.01") (basically, if SERVERx is using FTP then sound = chime.01.mp3) alert tcp SERVERx 80 -> any any (msg:"chime.14") (if SERVERx is surfing the web, then sound = chime.14.mp3) With this method you have access to a huge range of variables... You can set a different sound for when each machine contacts any other (so already for me that's 900 (30 x 30) possibilities): alert tcp SERVERx any -> SERVERy any (msg:"chime.xy") or alert tcp SERVER33 any -> WORKSTATION91 any (msg:"chime.3391") - before even plugging in any variation based on the class of traffic. Instead of using MySQL for this, I would make it simple: log all events, or "alerts" to a text file (default is "alert.ids" - which would just look like a long list of the alerts above). But this could just as easily be directed to a database or dumped into your chosen delimited format. The challenge I'm facing is finding the best method of converting this output into sound. The simplest interpretation might be to have a single script grep/cat the results and simply play the associated sound through a command line tool (on linux: "play"). (Search File / Find Pattern / Play sound / Loop) Alternatively it would be easy enough to have a script parse the results and create a simple sequence: "chime311, chime14, chime22, chime71, chime102, silence, chime291" This seems perhaps a more efficient and portable method - because you could export this sequence to any other suitable program. all in all I get the impression that it may sound very "serial" - which might get boring. the challenge could be to implement enough variables in both the captured alerts and associated samples/variations, so that you really have an intricate result. - - - "Catting" tcpdump output and dropping the result into /dev/audio, as someone suggested, would sorta work, but it seems you'd have no control over the types of sounds used. Creating sounds from the raw dumps, like the sox.mp3 example, doesn't really appeal to me either, as I'm not a massive fan of unmitigated noise - it just seems too easy. If I want to hear chimes, even voice or raindrop samples associated with the results, it doesn't seem to be possible through these methods. For me this is important, although this may separate me slightly from the true .microsound approach : ) - - - all of this can just as easily be run on windows (& OSx), there are suitable versions of Snort and Windump available. If you wanted to run this project without have access to the vast traffic of a corporate network... there is still enough data with a standalone workstation surfing the web (or sniffing the local café´s wifi network,) I suppose you just have to be more creative with the variables available. Creating a series of "pings," traceroutes or the odd denial-of-service would give you a ton of useful material. - - - Finally, I swear, one other related project I want to look at in the future is to create "Internet feedback" by hosting two ShoutCast streaming servers that are tied simply looped into each other. One side would stream the input from the other, which would do the same - no other source sounds. I'm not sure at all what would happen, perhaps we'd break the Internet... thanks for your feedback, sorry for the lengthy report! - R --Boundary_(ID_JrKdiKdzMc8JMTCB/AF3kw)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 11:50:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34263-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55580 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:50:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 55570 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:50:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:50:41 +0100 (CET) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 02/02/05 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CVXD2ykEsTdgEEV/ji8XmA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_CVXD2ykEsTdgEEV/ji8XmA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM - Miércoles/Wednesday 15h - www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM - Mar-Jue/Tue-Thu 16h - www.uam.es/ra Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time - www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENTS ONDA SONORA 02/02/05 01. REINHOLD FRIEDL / BERNHARD GUNTER / MICHAEL VORFELD Track: 1 Album: Message Urgent Label: Trente Oiseaux El programa de esta semana se abre con las últimas novedades del sello Trente Oiseaux desde Alemania, comenzamos con el trío de improvisación formado por Reinhold Friedl (Zeitkratzer) al piano y Michael Vorfeld a la percusión e instrumentos de cuerda, ambos junto al artista sonoro Bernhard Günter, que toca un singular instrumento a medio camino entre la guitarra y el violoncello, el cellotar eléctrico, para un álbum titulado "Message Urgent", que incluye una selección de cuatro piezas sin título que investiga en la fuerza y la intensidad del silencio This week we open up with the last novelties from the Trente Oiseaux label from Germany. We begin with an improvisation trio formed by Reinhold Friedl (Zeitkratzer) on piano and Michael Vorfeld on percussion and strings, both together with the sound artist Bernhard Günter, that plays a singular instrument halfway between guitar and cello, the electric cellotar, for an album entitled "Message Urgent" that includes a selection of four unnamed pieces that investigate in the force and intensity of silence 02. +MINUS Track: 2 Album: A Rainy Koran Verse Label: Trente Oiseaux Proyecto de improvisación en el que también está envuelto Bernhard Günter, director igualmente del sello Trente Oiseaux, en esta ocasión junto a sus compañeros en +minus Mark Wastell y Graham Halliwell. Se trata de un disco que contiene 70 minutos de grabaciones en directo procedentes de tres actuaciones diferentes en el Reino Unido, con el peculiar lenguaje musical que caracteriza a la formación Improvisation project in which Bernhard Günter is also involved. The director of the Trente Oiseaux label, in this occasion with his partners in +minus Mark Wastell and Graham Halliwell. It is record containing 70 minutes of live recordings from three different performances in the United Kingdom, with the peculiar musical language that characterizes the formation 03. DANIEL MENCHE Track: Hope And Prey Album: Hope And Prey Label: Soleilmoon Nuevo trabajo a cargo de Daniel Menche, artista sonoro norteamericano que viene creando interesantes composiciones electro-acústicas desde 1989. Esta obra fue concebida como banda sonora para una instalación audiovisual de otra artista residente en Portland (OR), Vanessa Renwick, editada por el sello Soleilmoon: "Hope And Prey", un trabajo vivo y dramático que escucharemos al completo, a lo largo de sus más de 20 minutos de duración New work by Daniel Menche, North American sound artist that has been creating interesting electro-acoustic compositions from 1989. This work was conceived as soundtrack for an audiovisual installation of another artist residing in Portland (OR), Vanessa Renwick, released by the Soleilmoon label: "Hope And Prey", a living and dramatic work that we are listening completely, along its more than 20 minutes of duration 04. KEMIALLISET YSTAVAT Track: sohjovyö Album: Alkuhärkä Label: (Fonal) Breve corte a cargo de una banda finlandesa, muy cerca del denominado folk psicodélico, llamada Kemialliset Ystavat, formada por Jan Anderzén de Avarus junto a varios activos miembros de la escena underground finlandesa Brief track by a Finnish band, close to the denominated psychedelic folk, called Kemialliset Ystavat, formed by Jan Anderzén of Avarus together with several active members of the Finnish underground scene 05. BAGHDASSARIANS / BALTSCHUN / BOSSETI / DONEDA Track: Vi Album: Strom Label: Potlatch Colaboración entre dos músicos electrónicos alemanes, Boris Baltschun y Serge Baghdassarians, y dos saxofonistas, el italiano Alessandro Bosetti y el francés Michel Doneda, para un disco titulado "Strom", formado por seis piezas de texturas improvisadas que pretenden provocar una sensación de tensión y ansiedad en el oyente. Edita el también francés sello Potlatch, una de las sedes más importantes de la improvisación libre en la Europa continental, el equivalente a Incus, Matchless or Emanem en el Reino Unido Collaboration between two German electronic musicians, Boris Baltschun and Serge Baghdassarians, and two saxophonists, the Italian Alessandro Bosetti and the French Michel Doneda, for a record entitled "Strom", that contains six pieces of improvised textures causing a sensation of tension and anxiety in the listener. Released by the French label Potlatch, one of the most important headquarters for the free improvisation in the continental Europe, the equivalent to Incus, Matchless or Emanem in the United Kingdom 06. SIGHTINGS Track: Dudes Album: Arrived In Gold Label: Load Trío de Brooklyn decidido a negarse a sí mismo en su tercer trabajo para Load Records. Tras unos comienzos dentro de lo que podríamos calificar como noise con formación de rock, al estilo de otros grupos norteamericanos como Lightning Bolt, ahora nos sorprenden con un disco minimal que acaba con la brutalidad de sus anteriores trabajos e investiga en el ruido desde un punto de vista mucho más minimal. Tras este “Arrived in Gold”, Sightings editarán en los próximos meses sendos nuevos trabajos en Freedom Form y Psycho-Path Trio from Brooklyn resolved to refuse themselves in their third work for Load Records. After their beginnings inside what we could qualify as noise with a rock formation, similar to other North American groups such as Lightning Bolt, now they surprise us with a minimal record that puts an apart to the brutality of their previous works and investigates in the noise from a much more minimal point of view. After this “Arrived in Gold”, Sightings will release in the next months some new works in Freedom Form and Psycho-Path 07. BARDO POND Track: Slag Title: Cypher Documents I Label: Three Lobed Recordings Esta semana nos despedimos con otra banda norteamericana, que desde su nacimiento en 1992 ha publicado cerca de 10 álbumes e innumerables cortes incluídos en diferentes singles y recopilaciones. Se trata de Bardo Pond, desde Philadelphia, con un disco titulado "Cypher Documents vol. I", que inagura una serie de compilaciones de material de la banda que fue accesible sólo durante un tiempo a través de su página web This Week we end up with another North American band, that from their birth in 1992 have released more than 10 works (Lps and Eps) and countless tracks included in different singles and compilations: Bard Pond, from Philadelphia, with "Cypher Documents vol. I", a record that starts the series of compilations with material from the band that was only accessible during some time through their Hummingbird website ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado “borrame” y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: “delete me”, and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you --------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_CVXD2ykEsTdgEEV/ji8XmA)-- From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 10:51:59 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34262-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 40811 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:51:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 40797 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:51:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:51:53 +0100 (CET) From: Luca Confusione <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] traffic analysis In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_F02e3eN7MDbM9hbkygZHBQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_F02e3eN7MDbM9hbkygZHBQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, what do you think about transforming sniffed data into wave? Ther's also Carnivore http://www.rhizome.org/carnivore/ used most with Processing (cool java environment for visual). Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: Wouldn't this make a good microsound project? It reminds me of the RNDTXT project a little bit. I thought it would be nice to make a piece of software or patch that used traffic data to act like a digital wind chime, although I think something similar exists somewhere. Here's some related links: http://ping.wrocenter.pl/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~cc/ On 2 Feb 2005, at 19:24, Kim Cascone wrote: >> just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip,=20 >> as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing >> through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a=20 >> music project.=20 >> >> capturing and parsing the traffic is easy, and I've thought about >> assigning a different "instrument" for dumps from each server or >> client, >> and allow the aesthetic elements to then be determined by the >> variations...=20 >> perhaps the volume of traffic, or even the type (for smtp traffic, >> use a >> certain sound, for dns use something else.) it could be wonderful with >> just percussion sounds alone.=20 > > this is a particularly interesting suggestion as I'm currently working > on a sound installation that uses data gathered from web services and > used in a Max patch... > q's: > - what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? > - what format is this data stored in? xml, mySQL, spreadsheet > (tab/space delimited text) etc? > - can you put some of this data on the hotline server for me to look > at? > :) > KIM -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------- Nuovo Yahoo! 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Thu Feb 3 09:29:17 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34261-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28149 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:29:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 28138 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:29:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:28:41 +0000 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] traffic analysis In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2005 09:29:46.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[E655C510:01C509D2] Wouldn't this make a good microsound project? It reminds me of the RNDTXT project a little bit. I thought it would be nice to make a piece of software or patch that used traffic data to act like a digital wind chime, although I think something similar exists somewhere. Here's some related links: http://ping.wrocenter.pl/ http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~cc/ On 2 Feb 2005, at 19:24, Kim Cascone wrote: >> just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip,=20 >> as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing >> through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a=20 >> music project.=20 >> >> capturing and parsing the traffic is easy, and I've thought about >> assigning a different "instrument" for dumps from each server or >> client, >> and allow the aesthetic elements to then be determined by the >> variations...=20 >> perhaps the volume of traffic, or even the type (for smtp traffic, >> use a >> certain sound, for dns use something else.) it could be wonderful with >> just percussion sounds alone.=20 > > this is a particularly interesting suggestion as I'm currently working > on a sound installation that uses data gathered from web services and > used in a Max patch... > q's: > - what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? > - what format is this data stored in? xml, mySQL, spreadsheet > (tab/space delimited text) etc? > - can you put some of this data on the hotline server for me to look > at? > :) > KIM -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Feb 3 00:24:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34260-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87620 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:24:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 87610 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:24:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:28:25 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] marc behrens + dj zipo tour To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJEEHPFFAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi all, please come by if and say hello if you are in one of those cities. best, till m a r c b e h r e n s + dj zipo tour February 3, 2005, 21:00 h: Marc Behrens, Pe Lang and DJ Zipo, at Kunstraum Walcheturm, Kanonengasse 20, Zürich, CH. 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A very powerful software for this purpose is ethereal : http://www.ethereal.com/ You can even import some traffic you had previously recorded with tcpdump. Éric. On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:24:53 -0800, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip,=20 > > as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing > > through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a=20 > > music project.=20 > > > > capturing and parsing the traffic is easy, and I've thought about > > assigning a different "instrument" for dumps from each server or > > client, > > and allow the aesthetic elements to then be determined by the > > variations...=20 > > perhaps the volume of traffic, or even the type (for smtp traffic, use > > a > > certain sound, for dns use something else.) it could be wonderful with > > just percussion sounds alone.=20 > > this is a particularly interesting suggestion as I'm currently working > on a sound installation that uses data gathered from web services and > used in a Max patch... > q's: > - what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? > - what format is this data stored in? xml, mySQL, spreadsheet > (tab/space delimited text) etc? > - can you put some of this data on the hotline server for me to look at? > :) > KIM > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 19:25:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34258-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77561 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:25:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 77551 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:24:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:24:53 -0800 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] traffic analysis To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip,=20 > as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing > through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a=20 > music project.=20 > > capturing and parsing the traffic is easy, and I've thought about > assigning a different "instrument" for dumps from each server or > client, > and allow the aesthetic elements to then be determined by the > variations...=20 > perhaps the volume of traffic, or even the type (for smtp traffic, use > a > certain sound, for dns use something else.) it could be wonderful with > just percussion sounds alone.=20 this is a particularly interesting suggestion as I'm currently working on a sound installation that uses data gathered from web services and used in a Max patch... q's: - what are you using for packet sniffing? tcpdump, snort, etc? - what format is this data stored in? xml, mySQL, spreadsheet (tab/space delimited text) etc? - can you put some of this data on the hotline server for me to look at? :) KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Feb 2 13:40:05 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34255-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 55547 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:40:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 55536 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:40:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:40:12 +0100 From: tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Authenticated: #10712873 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx could you post a link to this even earlier file? and if there are any special settings made in the NR section to achieve this special sound, it would be nice of you to give a short info on them. tl. batch totem schrieb: >file works ok - I had a autoexec.nt problem (problem with 16 bit programs) - found another copy of the file -but it's not cool edit v.153 - must be an even earlier version... > >I wouldent try so hard to obtain this program if it werent because the noise reduction sounds so unique - ofcourse it is similar to the improved feature in new cool edit versions, but much more smooth with fewer artifacts and somewhat "analouge" sounding - I found it very usefull to use it like a kind the opposite of residual synthesis /resynthesis tool - take fx a piece of classical music or whatever and process it...you can get results that leaves "extracts" from the original with only certain frequencies remaining. the improved noise reduction in cool edit or noise reduction plug ins in general do the same - but they simply dont SOUND the same.. > >TM > >tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> wrote:strange, >the file worked for me without problems >(it's an old 'win-zip' selfextracting exe-file and is 832 kb big/little; >get this 'DOS file' icon, too, but no error message). >I'm on windows xp, too. > >maybe redownload. > >tl. > > >batch totem schrieb: > > > >>errror message when trying to start the program - get an icon like it is a DOS file :-( >> >>(windows xp) >> >>but could be that version... >> >>tl wrote: >>Maybe this one: >>*http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe >> >>tl. >>* >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 13:27:28 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34254-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 50781 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:27:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 50771 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:27:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:27:20 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kSvoGbF7sNIEhBXGDMNgVw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kSvoGbF7sNIEhBXGDMNgVw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit file works ok - I had a autoexec.nt problem (problem with 16 bit programs) - found another copy of the file -but it's not cool edit v.153 - must be an even earlier version... I wouldent try so hard to obtain this program if it werent because the noise reduction sounds so unique - ofcourse it is similar to the improved feature in new cool edit versions, but much more smooth with fewer artifacts and somewhat "analouge" sounding - I found it very usefull to use it like a kind the opposite of residual synthesis /resynthesis tool - take fx a piece of classical music or whatever and process it...you can get results that leaves "extracts" from the original with only certain frequencies remaining. the improved noise reduction in cool edit or noise reduction plug ins in general do the same - but they simply dont SOUND the same.. TM tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> wrote:strange, the file worked for me without problems (it's an old 'win-zip' selfextracting exe-file and is 832 kb big/little; get this 'DOS file' icon, too, but no error message). I'm on windows xp, too. maybe redownload. tl. batch totem schrieb: >errror message when trying to start the program - get an icon like it is a DOS file :-( > >(windows xp) > >but could be that version... > >tl wrote: >Maybe this one: >*http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe > >tl. >* > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_kSvoGbF7sNIEhBXGDMNgVw)-- From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 10:13:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34253-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7046 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:13:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 7036 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:13:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:13:39 +0100 From: tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Authenticated: #10712873 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx strange, the file worked for me without problems (it's an old 'win-zip' selfextracting exe-file and is 832 kb big/little; get this 'DOS file' icon, too, but no error message). I'm on windows xp, too. maybe redownload. tl. batch totem schrieb: >errror message when trying to start the program - get an icon like it is a DOS file :-( > >(windows xp) > >but could be that version... > >tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> wrote: >Maybe this one: >*http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe > >tl. >* > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 08:59:25 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34252-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from gx2.optonline.net (gx2.optonline.net [167.206.112.44]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by gx2.optonline.net (InterMail vG.1.00.00.00 201-2136-104-20040331) with SMTP id <20050202085912.NHLK27207.gx2.xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> for <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:59:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 89256 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:59:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 89245 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:59:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:59:05 +0100 From: ub <xx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: music from network traffic? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Organization: /dev/null MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, de Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050105 Debian/1.7.5-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe have a look at this project: it's a osc hub and one of it's modules is a network sniffer: https://gullibloon.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Gulli blip, ub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 03:33:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34251-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2348 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:33:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 2336 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:33:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:35:38 +1100 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] MELB: environ presents Company 21-87, Feb 6th at Loop In-reply-to: <BE26958E.F22A%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BE2695BA.F22D%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx environ sunday february 6th at Loop ::: After the early January mega-production that was TALULU, where over 20 artists collaborated on a 4 hour fully improvised concoction, Environ returns with it's monthly slot, exploring spontaneous AV interactions. This month, Environ presents Company 21-87, an ensemble gathered by ex-USA, ex-Belgium based David Shea, who now resides in Melbourne. Taking influence from Derek Bailey's Company free improvisation events, Company 21-87 combines five musicians and two video makers in a sequence of discrete events over three hours. The combination of players either visual or musical will be pre-arranged with all of the choices of material decided by the players and not discussed before getting on stage. Each piece will be a separate and discrete improvisation, with a focus on the clear and direct connections between film music, collaged films & images, and iconic musical references and film sound design with a few tributes most likely appearing to some of the classic film composers. In true Environ tradition, the performances can be viewed in the back room as a cinema event or in the front space amongst the players. Playing from 8.30 to 11.30, Company 21-87 is: Michael Farlie - Video collage Kristi Monfries - Live and collage video Steve Magnusson - Guitars Joe Talia - Percussion and electronics Aaron Choulai - Keyboards G'resh Makwana - Tabla David Shea - Sampler Mixed by David Ashton (SBS Radio) Alongside sonic selectors bP (Zonar, Uber_Lingua), Jools (Fong Kong Bantu Sound System, Sth Africa) and the Talula Archive. Goto http://www.environline.net for artist bios, free audio from previous events and more infoŠ environ presents Company 21-87 Sunday February 6th from 7pm till late Loop : 23 meyers place Melbourne CBD australia : $5 entry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 02:07:15 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34250-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 72401 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:07:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 72390 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:07:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:07:09 -0600 (CST) From: Barry Grant <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] =?UTF-8?Q?arch=C3=A6oacoustics?= In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> X-Sender: 168607 X-Sender: unknown To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: RMM Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/188_stones1.shtml --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Feb 2 02:06:31 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34249-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71451 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:06:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 71440 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:06:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:05:02 -0500 From: stephen hastings-king <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] philadelphia: electro-acoustic performance Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-User-Info: 68.236.38.213 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx comrades! clairaudient is doing doing a live soundtrack to bill morrison's film "decasia" sunday, 6 february at 2 pm. it will happen at amado recital hall on the university of pennsylvania campus. details and audio (from other projects) can be found at: www.clairaudient.org thanks. stephen minister of piano noise for clairaudient ----------------------------------------------------- http://eo.yifan.net Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 23:33:03 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34248-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21463 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:32:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 21453 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:32:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:32:46 -0500 From: M Jean <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] sound installation in mtl X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06100500be25c0420a66@[69.156.167.202]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_f4oQSW/eUKlIezbgf5Umuw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_f4oQSW/eUKlIezbgf5Umuw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>Exposition à OBORO >>OBORO >>4001, rue Berri, #301 >>Montréal, Québec >>Canada H2L 4H2 >> >> >>Monique Jean >> >>Point d'attaches ou les >>infidélités rotatives >> >> >>du 8 janvier au 5 février 2005 >> >>vernissage le samedi 8 janvier 2005 à 17h00. >> >>la galerie est ouverte du mardi au samedi de midi à 17h00. >> >> >>Far from the spectacle and the media >>pandemonium, Point d'attaches ou les >>infidélités rotatives is an installation that >>focuses on the phenomenon of sound perception >>and seeks refuge in silence itself. This sound >>installation comprises a large vertical plane >>hanging from the ceiling, on which 80 speaker >>cones from the 1950s and the 1960s are fixed. >>This "speaking" surface is alive with barely >>perceptible small sounds of varying intensity >>and tone; as listeners stroll along, they pick >>up-as if they were antennas-constantly changing >>frequencies, phasing effects and vibrations >>that modify their vision of the wall. The >>question of space, and specifically of the >>listening body's situation in space, is deeply >>significant in this piece. >> >>The stillness of this "speaking surface" is >>bewitching and creates silence inside the >>viewer. Nothing in this "wall" is in >>becoming-it is a presence, a surface with >>acoustic mirages, something akin to being >>itself. >>Christian Calon >> >>The "in between" is the crux of theis >>installation: between abstraction from matter >>and matter itself; between a vertical plane and >>its unfolding in the space, between stasis and >>movement. >> >>These tensions reflect an era torn between a >>technological, optimistic and abstract vision >>that takes the present moment as its field of >>operations, and a historical, social and >>ecological vision pierced by the arrow of time. >> >>Electroacoustician and sound artist Monique >>Jean is particularly interested in spatialising >>sound shapes in order to create organic >>ensembles balancing between abstraction and >>matter, stasis and motion, body and space, >>sound representation and listening. Aside from >>her stereo (Danse de l'enfant esseulée) or >>multi-track (low memory #1) acousmatic pieces, >>she explores the mixing of musical genres and >>live treatment-low memory #2 with Claire >>Marchand, flutist Stabile with the saxophone >>quartet Quasar and Lori Freedman, clarinettist, >>premiering in April 2005. On January 25, 2005 >>she will perform with Thérésa Transistor, her >>group of electroacoustician improvisers, at the >>Monument National. Her critically acclaimed >> >>Loin du spectaculaire et du vacarme médiatique, >>Point d'attaches ou les infidélités rotatives >>est une installation qui s'attarde au phénomène >>sonore de la perception et tente de se loger au >>c¦ur même du silence. Cette installation sonore >>consiste en un grand plan vertical, suspendu au >>plafond, sur lequel sont fixés quatre-vingts >>cônes de haut-parleurs des années 1950 et 1960. >>Cette «surface haut-parlante» est animée de >>petits sons aux variations d'intensité et de >>timbre à peine perceptibles; c'est en se >>déplaçant que l'auditeur, telle une antenne, >>capte fréquences, effets de phases et >>vibrations en continuel changement qui altèrent >>jusqu'à la vision du mur. La question de >>l'espace, et plus précisément de la situation >>du corps écoutant dans l'espace, y est >>prégnante. >> >>L'immobilité de cette «surface haut-parlante» >>exerce un envoûtement chez le spectateur, un >>silence intérieur. Rien dans ce «mur» qui soit >>en devenir, mais une présence, une surface à >>mirages acoustiques, quelque chose de l'ordre >>de l'être. >>Christian Calon >> >>Le «entre» l'enjeu de cette installation : >>entre une abstraction de la matière et la >>matière elle-même, entre un plan vertical et >>son basculement dans l'espace, entre statisme >>et mouvement. >> >>Ces tensions sont à l'image d'une époque >>tiraillé entre une vision technologique, >>optimiste et abstraite, accueillant le moment >>présent comme territoire, et une vision >>historique, sociale et écologiste, traversée de >>la flèche du temps. >> >>Monique Jean, électroacousticienne et artiste >>sonore, s'intéresse particulièrement à la mise >>en espace des formes sonores, afin de créer des >>ensembles organiques en tension, entre >>abstraction et matière, statisme et mouvement, >>corps et espace, représentation sonore et >>écoute. Outre ses oeuvres acousmatiques en >>stéréo (Danse de l'enfant esseulée) ou en >>multipistes (low memory #1), elle explore les >>musiques mixtes et les traitements en temps >>réel : low memory #2 avec Claire Marchand, >>flûtiste Stabile avec le quatuor de saxophones >>Quasar et Lori Freedman, clarinettiste, >>création en avril 2005. Ce 25 janvier 2005, on >>pourra l'entendre avec son groupe >>d'électroacousticiens improviseurs, le Thérésa >>Transistor, au Monument National. Son disque >>L'adieu au s.o.s (étiquette Empreintes >>Digitales), salué par la critique, a été nominé >>aux Prix Opus 2003. >> >>CD L'adieu au s.o.s (Empreintes Digitales >>label) was nominated for an Opus Award in 2003. >> >> >>-- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- _____________________________________________ . Monique Jean . xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx . http://www.electrocd.com/bio.f/jean_mo.html --Boundary_(ID_f4oQSW/eUKlIezbgf5Umuw)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 20:37:16 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34247-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 54444 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:37:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 54434 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:37:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:37:09 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0Oko/H3z+CTy3oQirjWUGg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_0Oko/H3z+CTy3oQirjWUGg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit errror message when trying to start the program - get an icon like it is a DOS file :-( (windows xp) but could be that version... tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> wrote: Maybe this one: *http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe tl. * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_0Oko/H3z+CTy3oQirjWUGg)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 20:35:34 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34246-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 53042 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:35:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 52996 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:35:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:35:15 +0000 From: Roger Mills <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Furthernoise Radio on Resonance FM To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_0hCE2rS2mRZUv/BNFZoEgA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_0hCE2rS2mRZUv/BNFZoEgA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Furthernoise Radio on Resonance FM Thursday 10th February 7- 8.30pm GMT Furthernoise will be airing a host of new cross genre experimental music and art noise on Resonance FM. Jodi Rose chats to Roger Mills about the harmony of Bridges and the launch of her Singing Bridges CD and we feature a net jam in Visitors Studio featuring sound artists mixing live from locations around the globe. Net Jam artists are: John Kannenberg – US based A/V artist and curator of record label and net art space Stasisfield. http://www.johnkannenberg.com Midori Hirano - Tokyo based musician and sound artist who’s EP ‘Poet at the Piano’ is out on the Soundzfromnowhere label. http://www009.upp.so-net.ne.jp/midori_web/ Mark Francombe – Oslo based British A/V artist who releases his music through his own SynchNonSynch label and was a founding member of 80’s UK indie band Cranes. http://www.markfrancombe.com --Boundary_(ID_0hCE2rS2mRZUv/BNFZoEgA)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 20:07:12 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34245-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39623 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:07:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 39613 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:07:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:06:58 -0500 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ondes martenot concert in mtl In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx since the subject of ondes martenot was brought up, i wanted to mention an upcoming concert (in montreal) featuring three mixed pieces for ondes martenot and tape by gilles gobeil. the ondes will be performed by suzanne binet-audet. this is on march 2nd at 9:15pm during the MNM festival. more info here: http://www.festivalmnm.ca/mnm.e/2005/0502mnm03.06.html normally these pieces will be released on DVD sometime this year on empreintes digitales. have a nice day ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 18:07:00 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34244-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84947 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:06:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 84906 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:06:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:06:47 +0100 From: tl <xxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Authenticated: #10712873 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Maybe this one: *http://www.popupexchange.com/4/CoolEdit3.11/cool153z.exe tl. * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 16:53:35 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34243-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 59582 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:53:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 59570 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:53:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:53:26 -0600 From: "xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird (X11/20041216) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.savantnoc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bananamum.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've played around with this stuff a bit under linux. tcpdump -s0 -w /dev/dsp if you do this on the computer you are working on you can kind of orchestrate sound by running different web apps/network apps. But I find it more interesting trapping the network traffic at a hub/switch. This way you can listen to multiple computers. You can get more "musical" by doing a network dump and specifically turning, say, mail traffic into a chord and the ip address of the source being used as a different program and/or the dest ip address having an effect on the attach/velocity. I've played a little with the musical way. using libpcap (network traffic capturing library used by tcpdump) and midi with php or perl if very flexible. But I still find the raw traffic to pcm more interesting. Especially is you route it through sox first to do cleanup/effecting. Here is a link to a little snippet. http://space.linuxlovesyou.com/dump_sox.mp3 it's about 1MB. This was done with ssh/tcpdump/sox/lame. before I started the dump I setup a feedback look by using ssh connection to dump the ssh connection. I feel like I'm rambling now (not enough coffee) so I'll stop. But if anyone is interested in this line of experimenting I would love to collaborate. ....steve/higgs/fluffy... John McCaig wrote: >are you on linux? > >cat the the iptables log to /dev/audio >http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=660722 > > > >On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:11:14 +0900, kath <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >>you might be interested in reading this article: >>http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/lmj/horton.html >> >>here's an excerpt.. >>"Horton was a computer music pioneer who was active in the San >>Francisco Bay Area. His early work with microcomputers, beginning in >>1976, was startlingly original. He incorporated ideas from artificial >>intelligence and radical music theory into his compositions and >>performances right from the very start. He was the first composer to >>postulate the idea of using computer networks to make music and >>created the first network music performance, with artist Rich Gold, in >>1977. With John Bischoff and Rich Gold, he co-founded the world's >>first computer network band, the League of Automatic Music Composers, >>in 1978. He was also one of the first composers to use a computer to >>experiment with just intonation. Jim used the computer as an active >>partner in the musical process rather than an inert tool." >> >>maybe you could make a max patch and map the different source/dest ip >>addresses to different things eg volume/pitch/midi notes etc. I think >>there's some network traffic monitors that have audio monitoring so >>you can hear if the traffic gets heavy or light but I can't think of >>the names off the top of my head. >> >>cheers >>Kath >> >> >>On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600, DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> >>>has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for >>>turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>http://www.aliak.com >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 16:30:56 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34242-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 49973 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:30:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 49962 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:30:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:30:49 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <001c01c50879$ccdb0d20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AmeSi4pjXFVfBS6iSUPQCw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AmeSi4pjXFVfBS6iSUPQCw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: Have you made sure these are actually CoolEdit 95 you're downloading? I've noticed that a lot of times, they're mis-labeled by people sharing... ABSOLUTELY SURE, the program itself is named cool edit 95 - the version of cool edit with simple noise reduction must be an very early one.. Also, there are a hell of a lot of tweakable items in the noise reduction area. Are you certain that the sound you're looking for isn't a result of one of these? And also different sampling rates, etc get different "after effects" when you noise reduce them. I've found CoolEdit to be a remarkable program, especially for generating odd sounds, and tweaking things in new ways. Lots of fun. I AGREE - the thing is that the old version of noise reduction in cool edit simply makes a very specific timbre and thereare very FEW parameters to tweak in opposite to the later versions like cool edit 2000, pro etc as I remenber there are two sliders and three varable settings DaveX --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_AmeSi4pjXFVfBS6iSUPQCw)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 16:14:55 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34241-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 42144 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:14:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 42132 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:14:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:19:26 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c50879$ccdb0d20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Have you made sure these are actually CoolEdit 95 you're downloading? I've noticed that a lot of times, they're mis-labeled by people sharing... Also, there are a hell of a lot of tweakable items in the noise reduction area. Are you certain that the sound you're looking for isn't a result of one of these? And also different sampling rates, etc get different "after effects" when you noise reduce them. I've found CoolEdit to be a remarkable program, especially for generating odd sounds, and tweaking things in new ways. Lots of fun. DaveX --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 16:11:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34240-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 39880 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:11:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 39870 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:11:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:11:44 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_BViQBdagzvGb8a/7B8/3WQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_BViQBdagzvGb8a/7B8/3WQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit horton mp3,s here: http://osho.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~tebo/mp3/ On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:11:14 +0900, kath wrote: > you might be interested in reading this article: > http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/lmj/horton.html > > here's an excerpt.. > "Horton was a computer music pioneer who was active in the San > Francisco Bay Area. His early work with microcomputers, beginning in > 1976, was startlingly original. He incorporated ideas from artificial > intelligence and radical music theory into his compositions and > performances right from the very start. He was the first composer to > postulate the idea of using computer networks to make music and > created the first network music performance, with artist Rich Gold, in > 1977. With John Bischoff and Rich Gold, he co-founded the world's > first computer network band, the League of Automatic Music Composers, > in 1978. He was also one of the first composers to use a computer to > experiment with just intonation. Jim used the computer as an active > partner in the musical process rather than an inert tool." > > maybe you could make a max patch and map the different source/dest ip > addresses to different things eg volume/pitch/midi notes etc. I think > there's some network traffic monitors that have audio monitoring so > you can hear if the traffic gets heavy or light but I can't think of > the names off the top of my head. > > cheers > Kath > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600, DaveX wrote: > > has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for > > turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? > > > > > -- > http://www.aliak.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- john mcCaig | www.johnmccaig.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_BViQBdagzvGb8a/7B8/3WQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 16:06:04 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34239-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 37243 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:05:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 37230 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:05:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:05:40 +0100 (CET) From: batch totem <xxxxx_xx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] cool edit 95 noise reduction In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QYRbiCDahY7nwkDVdqIAUg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_QYRbiCDahY7nwkDVdqIAUg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once I had a very early version of cool edit with very simple noise reduction, later the feature was improved - the thing is that the old type of noise reduction had a very -unique- sound, very smooth and differrent from the later versions- the sound that could be created is similar to fx Microstoria sounds... so my question is; does anyone on this list know which version of cool edit that had this old feature? it was very basic with fewer parameters than the new versions.. cool edit versions 95 and 96 dont have version numbers like 1.0 etc and the files I found on the net contained the IMPROVED noise reduction. the audtion forums have no info. thanks in advance --Boundary_(ID_QYRbiCDahY7nwkDVdqIAUg)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 14:39:58 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34238-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7149 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:39:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 7139 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:39:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:39:22 -0800 From: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: John McCaig <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Go0WH9trulVF5zQWAUIOAv1F1Jp1u6L4FHbGrr5qEtR+d+I6cm6WBGuctBlEan4nHYBmOkwkcf3mLjJp14VwshlbV7/pfwFQDo2mZsQETAf6GLbdKE/omyndKEgX1c/EyLOHfyF78Ca9ZYMAMaMesjwl/ZI652FoNo7Nym7RU80= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx are you on linux? cat the the iptables log to /dev/audio http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=660722 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:11:14 +0900, kath <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > you might be interested in reading this article: > http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/lmj/horton.html > > here's an excerpt.. > "Horton was a computer music pioneer who was active in the San > Francisco Bay Area. His early work with microcomputers, beginning in > 1976, was startlingly original. He incorporated ideas from artificial > intelligence and radical music theory into his compositions and > performances right from the very start. He was the first composer to > postulate the idea of using computer networks to make music and > created the first network music performance, with artist Rich Gold, in > 1977. With John Bischoff and Rich Gold, he co-founded the world's > first computer network band, the League of Automatic Music Composers, > in 1978. He was also one of the first composers to use a computer to > experiment with just intonation. Jim used the computer as an active > partner in the musical process rather than an inert tool." > > maybe you could make a max patch and map the different source/dest ip > addresses to different things eg volume/pitch/midi notes etc. I think > there's some network traffic monitors that have audio monitoring so > you can hear if the traffic gets heavy or light but I can't think of > the names off the top of my head. > > cheers > Kath > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600, DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for > > turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? > > > > > -- > http://www.aliak.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- john mcCaig | www.johnmccaig.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 14:12:36 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34237-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 98092 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:12:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 98069 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:12:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:11:14 +0900 From: kath <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? In-reply-to: <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aPcbvgYqaHSbPsJWoi4wsizQsUPnB5FvisBGhNQGVp/HPg+UQRv6qs//tQ9cIItiCaY6s0UeRkgPiJbkgdxgDbbtjblu/yoL+FJ5p5XQM7Nl0wYIk2lOQPIlnMuSH1E8xYlL6YRbltKKfSY0+WaorJPvQxL2YggdzU8aIEYfM1w= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you might be interested in reading this article: http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/lmj/horton.html here's an excerpt.. "Horton was a computer music pioneer who was active in the San Francisco Bay Area. His early work with microcomputers, beginning in 1976, was startlingly original. He incorporated ideas from artificial intelligence and radical music theory into his compositions and performances right from the very start. He was the first composer to postulate the idea of using computer networks to make music and created the first network music performance, with artist Rich Gold, in 1977. With John Bischoff and Rich Gold, he co-founded the world's first computer network band, the League of Automatic Music Composers, in 1978. He was also one of the first composers to use a computer to experiment with just intonation. Jim used the computer as an active partner in the musical process rather than an inert tool." maybe you could make a max patch and map the different source/dest ip addresses to different things eg volume/pitch/midi notes etc. I think there's some network traffic monitors that have audio monitoring so you can hear if the traffic gets heavy or light but I can't think of the names off the top of my head. cheers Kath On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600, DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for > turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? > -- http://www.aliak.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 14:11:49 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34236-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 97034 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:11:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 97024 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:11:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:11:14 +0900 From: kath <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? In-reply-to: <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Q0H82SVf79sFtOXpCEVtESQXOjfQqiTbFSCdljjZZYnI74T8Jee0qO5swtXWlVdgApHjILLY4n9orupxeTdAzetXM31vzPOIHjPiUDU7fi8cq2ySobomtSVgv0tUdtLtFZFshEv5eOzB5VM1wcAAqVi4aKoTLgI76SePS94+C+4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you might be interested in reading this article: http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/lmj/horton.html here's an excerpt.. "Horton was a computer music pioneer who was active in the San Francisco Bay Area. His early work with microcomputers, beginning in 1976, was startlingly original. He incorporated ideas from artificial intelligence and radical music theory into his compositions and performances right from the very start. He was the first composer to postulate the idea of using computer networks to make music and created the first network music performance, with artist Rich Gold, in 1977. With John Bischoff and Rich Gold, he co-founded the world's first computer network band, the League of Automatic Music Composers, in 1978. He was also one of the first composers to use a computer to experiment with just intonation. Jim used the computer as an active partner in the musical process rather than an inert tool." maybe you could make a max patch and map the different source/dest ip addresses to different things eg volume/pitch/midi notes etc. I think there's some network traffic monitors that have audio monitoring so you can hear if the traffic gets heavy or light but I can't think of the names off the top of my head. cheers Kath On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600, DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for > turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? > -- http://www.aliak.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 13:40:24 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34234-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 89505 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:40:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 89495 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:40:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:44:48 -0600 From: DaveX <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] music from network traffic? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c50864$32905a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? Okay. I don't know much about network blah blah blah, but I did at one time come across an interesting piece of software that I thought might be useful to someone with the technical skills to make it work. I came across it while searching for something useful to do with a Mac Classic I had gotten for free from a yard sale. I was looking online, and found that some fellow somewhere had managed to make his into a dedicated computer for running a software program that controlled his model train set. Basically, it was a hardware and software setup, with the software operating some sort of voltage-controlled device that would tell trains when to turn, stop, go, track change, etc. In other words, something very much like portions of the innards of an analog synth. Of course, there was some sort of input to the device, so the "conductor" could make changes, fly them through the computer, then have them come down the track. With a little fiddling, I bet the input could be your data stream information, running into this software, and out to this voltage control device. Since it has many, many "outs" as I understood it (I think it is for those with LOTS of trains) you could really have quite a bit of good sound if you truly intended to use it as a "sonic diagnostic" tool. If you end up doing this, I want to hear it, okay? Or really, anything you end up doing with this. DaveX --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 13:47:09 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34235-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 91846 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:47:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 91827 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:47:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:43:06 +0100 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c50863$f60c8f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_06PpzNs1ClWH0+DIaideZQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_06PpzNs1ClWH0+DIaideZQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit find a re-invented follower of the ondes martenot on this site, the ondéa (f***ing expensive, but if i had the money ... ;-) http://www.chez.com/cslevine/ondes/ thanx, now, anybody know where i can download a crack of the current version of "french". :) the babelation only produced headthrobbing nonsense...;( couldn't find any info on pricing? how much is one of those? thanx anyway, th_ost °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ xxxxxx@xxx.xxx ay, sigue:56825202 >> we gonna fight for your right to apathy... << °°°°° ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Winkler To: microsound Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 21:21 Subject: Re: [microsound] what d'ya know Ondes Martinot... hi ndkent, th_ost & folks! find a re-invented follower of the ondes martenot on this site, the ondéa (f***ing expensive, but if i had the money ... ;-) http://www.chez.com/cslevine/ondes/ there you can listen also some ondea-music. enthusiasted, michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_06PpzNs1ClWH0+DIaideZQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Feb 1 11:58:39 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34233-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71101 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:58:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 71088 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:58:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:58:05 +0100 From: COSTELLOE Richard <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] music from network traffic? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: music from network traffic? Thread-index: AcUH37+KUeDDptBmQ3CHvN/YjU2cEQAakSjQ Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2005 11:58:06.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A4B7A30:01C50855] just wondering if anyone has used network traffic, sniffed tcp/ip, as a music source. I have traffic from a room full of servers flowing through my screen and would like to implement this somehow into a music project. capturing and parsing the traffic is easy, and I've thought about assigning a different "instrument" for dumps from each server or client, and allow the aesthetic elements to then be determined by the variations... perhaps the volume of traffic, or even the type (for smtp traffic, use a certain sound, for dns use something else.) it could be wonderful with just percussion sounds alone. alternatively I thought about tying this into a network monitoring system, so that if all is running well I can tune into a harmonoius phillip glass- sounding broadcast. but if a server is in trouble, the tone changes... maybe add some distortion and frantic idm-beats. further, it would be an interesting twist to do a live show in some city just using ambient wireless network traffic as your source... perhaps with some visual elements also plucked from the ether. people's passwords flying by on some matrix-cy projection. has anyone come across a similar project, or could recommend methods for turning sniffed network streams into 'found' music? perhaps even some linux/windows audio applications that allow you to implement raw data for sequences or triggers of some sort... best, richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Feb 22 20:43:44 2005 Return-path: <microsound-return-34515-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Nov 5 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68241 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:43:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 68227 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:43:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:29:16 -0600 From: Gregory Taylor <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] futurists and fascists (was us citizens... (OT) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-ORBL: [69.216.21.182] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It could be and has been argued that the futurists were willingly co-opted by the Fascists (I believe that a lot of this concerns their participation in... um... I think it's the Quattrocentro exhibition in um... 1933 or so? (Sorry. I'm in Miami a great ways away from my library.), and the extent to which one could read the earlier work and see or not see this co-optation as something inevitable is, similarly, posited and debated by historians and scholars. Such work is, apparently, complicated by the fact that the view of some futurists as collaborators was sufficiently widespread in the years following the second world war that the participants' work fell into fairly serious obscurity. I heard an interesting talk by Richard Kerby (who authored the very interesting and, happily, back in print book "Futurist Performance," which to my knowledge featured the first English translations of a number of theoretical writings of the futurists) about the circumstances under which he found and gathered the research that informed "Futurist Performance." While people generally in groups like this bemoan the "loss" of the intonarumori (and some basic idea of what was actually IN some of those boxes), much more has been lost to us. While I can's say I've really got a dog in this fight at this point (although I was somewhat more committed to the notion that the co-optation of futurism was important during the first heady days of industrial music, when a fair number of persons who were largely ignorant of the movement's history appeared to uncritically embrace futurism), I would probably hazard a guess that the larger lesson to be drawn might lie in considering if (and how) their work *was* co-opted, and how such might also be *our* lot. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org