Re: [microsound] please explain

From Kyle Klipowicz
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I'm down with that action.

~Kyle

On 3/30/07, Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> that was interesting to see. Maybe we need to integrate
> the Virgin Mary and raise the microsound awareness level ;-)

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color images are at least 4 dimensional - 3 color channels and location
(aka sequence position).  depending on the image type, possibly many
more...  which dimension do you want to map to what audio component?
there are other considerations as well - bit depth?

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:42 -0500, Rod Stasick wrote:
> The original post concerned
> picture to sound (cat pix to sound)
> and Kim's question quoted a link sent to me
> for clarification (thank you BTW),
> so I'm guessing P > S.
> Would like to find such a thing as well.
> 
> There's never seemed to be a direct one-to-one visually
> with the pix-to-snd and back with Hyperupic.
> Tapestrea is new to me, so thanks for that link.
> 
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The original post concerned
picture to sound (cat pix to sound)
and Kim's question quoted a link sent to me
for clarification (thank you BTW),
so I'm guessing P > S.
Would like to find such a thing as well.

There's never seemed to be a direct one-to-one visually
with the pix-to-snd and back with Hyperupic.
Tapestrea is new to me, so thanks for that link.


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Argh, sorry, which ISN'T sound to picture, it's picture to sound, I
meant to say. I can't type today... ~D

On 3/30/07, David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Well he mentioned coagula, which is sound to picture ...
>
> I'd love to see more applications along these lines myself, I'd be
> curious to build something like this someday ...
>
> ~David
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> On 3/30/07, Steffen <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
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> > On 30/03/2007, at 19.28, Steffen wrote:
> >
> > > And maybe Kim even wants 'sound to picture', which wasn't clear to
> > > me from the request.
> >
> > Too fast, sorry. I'm now very sure the request is for a (sound to
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Well he mentioned coagula, which is sound to picture ...

I'd love to see more applications along these lines myself, I'd be
curious to build something like this someday ...

~David

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> On 30/03/2007, at 19.28, Steffen wrote:
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> > And maybe Kim even wants 'sound to picture', which wasn't clear to
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> Too fast, sorry. I'm now very sure the request is for a (sound to
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On 30/03/2007, at 19.28, Steffen wrote:

> And maybe Kim even wants 'sound to picture', which wasn't clear to  
> me from the request.

Too fast, sorry. I'm now very sure the request is for a (sound to  
picture) spectrogram application.

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On 30/03/2007, at 18.42, Maurice Rickard wrote:

> Hyperupic

.... which is 'picture to sound'. And I'm not sure it only translate  
the picture such that the picture can be seam by making a spectrogram  
of the sound. "Translating" can mean a lot. And maybe Kim even wants  
'sound to picture', which wasn't clear to me from the request.

Tapestrea <http://taps.cs.princeton.edu/> does among other things  
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Kim Cascone wrote:
>> http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php
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> can someone recommend an app for OS X other than MetaSynth (which I 
> never warmed up to) for doing this?

I've used Hyperupic for this:
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> http://www.bastwood.com/aphex.php

can someone recommend an app for OS X other than MetaSynth (which I  
never warmed up to) for doing this?
I used to use Coagula back in my PC days but wonder if there might be  
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On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Xdugef wrote:

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Thanks for that. The Spectrogram def I'm familiar with.
It was the second link that pointed to some other examples
that was interesting to see. Maybe we need to integrate
the Virgin Mary and raise the microsound awareness level ;-)


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram

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AIS2 "The Art of Immersive Soundscapes 2" - Creative Forum & Conference

>>Authors note "Call for Papers" below<<

Greetings from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada!

We are pleased to announce a SSHRC-funded Summer Institute and Conference, to be held from June 9-22, 2007 at the University of Regina. Hosted by Dr. Pauline Minevich (Department of Music) and Prof. Charles Fox (Department of Media Production & Studies), these creative and theoretical forums will provide a unique opportunity for students, artists, musicians, composers, and researchers to participate in an intensive programme devoted to soundscape artforms.
 
The formal and informal venues of AIS2 will take place in an atmosphere of collegiality and discourse between artists and academics. Theorists will directly experience creative practices and artists will have an opportunity to display and validate their current developments amongst peers. 


The Creative Forum

Building on the success of the Summer Institute held at the University of Regina in July 2004, "The Art of Immersive Soundscapes 2" will attract Canada’s leading artists and academics to contemplate, compose and create immersive soundscapes. The opportunity for presentation of complex three dimensional soundscapes will be given the best of possible venues, through high quality presentation facilities, engaged inquiry and enthusiastic, receptive audiences - artwork that is on the leading edge of technology and artistic expression. 


The Creative Forum’s program is diverse, including:

Master Classes -  For the advanced student or practitioner: be exposed to new methods and theories. 
Audio Basics -  For those new to audio art: become grounded in audio and composition practices through classes presented by leading artists.
Collaborative exploration -  State-of-the art multichannel audio studio facilities will enable a creative setting for the creation and presentation of new, challenging methods, ideas and artworks.   
Presentations - Nightly artist talks and presentations of audio compositions, plus an off-site visit to a special prairie setting. 

The nine Artists-in-Residence for AIS2 are among Canada's most innovative composers, acoustic designers and audio artists:

Darren Copeland (Toronto): Independent audio artist and Director of New Adventures in Sound Art, Toronto.
Dr. Christos Hatzis (University of Toronto): Distinguished multi-award-winning composer, whose music utilizes multimedia and sound art.
Stephen Heimbecker (Montreal): independent audio artist, with exhibited installations in Europe and North America.
Wade McGregor (North Vancouver): Senior consultant, MC Squared Systems Design Group, specializing in acoustic design; has published over 250 technical papers, awarded patent for design of modular microphone (with Charles Fox).
Ellen Moffat (Saskatoon): Independent audio artist, with sound installation presentations across Canada.
Gordon Monahan (Berlin): Independent audio artist, with exhibitions and performances across Europe and North America.
Barry Truax (Simon Fraser University): Internationally celebrated pioneer and teacher in audio art, technology, and electroacoustic composition.
Dr. Ellen Waterman (University of Guelph): Creative sound artist, music performer and improviser.
Hildegard Westerkamp (Vancouver), Independent audio artist, former faculty member at Simon Fraser University, with exhibitions world-wide.


The Conference

AIS2 Intersections: Soundscapes and Music; Soundscapes and Identity 
An International Conference held at the University of Regina - June 20-22, 2007
Dr. Pauline Minevich (University of Regina) and Dr. Ellen Waterman (University of Guelph), co-chairs.

Keynote speakers will be the distinguished Canadian audio artists and composers Dr. Christos Hatzis (University of Toronto) and Prof. Barry Truax (Simon Fraser University).

Call for Papers
Proposals are invited for papers, performances, and presentations that address aspects of relationships between different kinds of soundscapes, musics, and concepts of identity. Topics may encompass identity in personal, national, political contexts; musics ranging from traditional acoustic to electronic and computer-generated; and varieties of soundscapes, from environmental to electronic.  Multi-media presentations are welcome. Papers/presentations are limited to 20 minutes in length. We are currently pursuing opportunities for publication of the proceedings.

Abstracts should be 250-500 words long and can be submitted by e-mail, by April 15, 2007, to the address listed below. The abstract should be included in the body of the e-mail, as should the author's name, telephone number, e-mail address, and institutional affiliation. Identifying information will be removed before evaluation by the program committee. E-mail notifications will be sent by May 1, 2007.

Contact Address:         Dr. Pauline Minevich
                        xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx 
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                             University of Regina
3737 Wascana Parkway
Regina, Saskatchewan
S4S 0A2 Canada
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AIS2 Registration - visit http://uregina.ca/Soundscape 

Creative Forum: Two weeks enrollment, including master Classes, is limited to 25 participants. The fee for the two-week workshop is $300 regular, $200 students; includes the Conference fee.

Audio Basics: One-week (five two-hour classes) - $100 reg., $50 students.

Conference: $100 regular, $50 students.

All amounts in Canadian dollars

Low-cost accommodation is available on-campus in student residences.
Some financial assistance will be made available for students; please inquire.

For more information please contact:
Creative Forum: Prof. Charles Fox xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxx.xx 

Conference: Dr. Pauline Minevich xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx   

AIS2 website  http://uregina.ca/Soundscape 

Please note: the website will be updated with current Creative Forum and Conference information beginning March 15, 2007


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not as bling-looking, but highly functional. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssScYdYBVOs&mode=related&search=

i've worked with Jeff on other projects, and can attest to his
ninja-ism :)

here's our project:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xxxxxxxx@xxx/sets/72157594150288841/

if you get an opportunity to work with him on a project (i beleive he's
in NY now), i'd highly recommend it.

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 08:20 -0700, Kim Cascone wrote:
> I recently conducted an AudioCubes workshop in Vancouver
> one group created a noise piece...an excerpt can be found here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkMUmV-O04
> there is some talking over it - but it blends nicely with the noise  
> elements created by the cubes
> 
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I recently conducted an AudioCubes workshop in Vancouver
one group created a noise piece...an excerpt can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkMUmV-O04
there is some talking over it - but it blends nicely with the noise  
elements created by the cubes

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try jit.dx.grab it will digitize video from an external source using
native windows routines

cheers

Noel


> Well I'm pretty sold on the open source GEM+PD combination on WinXP,
> so I personally can't see much advantage to be gained from using
> jitter, I think Gem can do anything jitter can do... for free... I
> don't actually own Max and jitter, it was a friend who owned it.
>
> Anyway to explain the problem more clearly: my friend who had the
> webcam problem, and I attempted to help. Basically, it turns out that
> the webcam has to support quicktime. The Cycling 74 site says, "In
> general, any video device that works with QuickTime should work with
> Jitter. If your device isn't working, there may be a driver problem,
> or a hardware problem, or (although we really hope not) a problem with
> jit.qt.grab."
>
> If it doesn't, you are supposed to try running this software called
> The Win VDIG, but it didn't work when we tried. The website says:
> "With WinVDIG QuickTime applications can capture video on Windows
> 95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP. WinVDIG creates a QuickTime Video Digitizer
> (VDIG) for each camera on the computer. This includes USB cameras, PCI
> capture boards and DV cameras."
>
> Bottom line, I know Windows sucks, but only doing video via QuickTime
> does not make for a good port of the software in my opinion. (Compare
> jitter to vvvv which uses DirectX ...)
>
> ~David
>
> On 3/28/07, bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:28 PM, David Powers wrote:
>>
>> > On the other hand, if Jitter worked better with Win it could be really
>> > cool.
>>
>> hi david
>> i'm surprised that you've had problems with jitter on windows, my
>> friend adam kendall does great stuff with his pc laptop, webcams and
>> jitter live all the time. maybe look him up on the max list and see
>> what his secret is...
>> cheers
>> bruce
>>
>> bruce tovsky
>> www.skeletonhome.com
>>
>> "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
>> Philip K. Dick
>>
>>
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Well I'm pretty sold on the open source GEM+PD combination on WinXP,
so I personally can't see much advantage to be gained from using
jitter, I think Gem can do anything jitter can do... for free... I
don't actually own Max and jitter, it was a friend who owned it.

Anyway to explain the problem more clearly: my friend who had the
webcam problem, and I attempted to help. Basically, it turns out that
the webcam has to support quicktime. The Cycling 74 site says, "In
general, any video device that works with QuickTime should work with
Jitter. If your device isn't working, there may be a driver problem,
or a hardware problem, or (although we really hope not) a problem with
jit.qt.grab."

If it doesn't, you are supposed to try running this software called
The Win VDIG, but it didn't work when we tried. The website says:
"With WinVDIG QuickTime applications can capture video on Windows
95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP. WinVDIG creates a QuickTime Video Digitizer
(VDIG) for each camera on the computer. This includes USB cameras, PCI
capture boards and DV cameras."

Bottom line, I know Windows sucks, but only doing video via QuickTime
does not make for a good port of the software in my opinion. (Compare
jitter to vvvv which uses DirectX ...)

~David

On 3/28/07, bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:28 PM, David Powers wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, if Jitter worked better with Win it could be really
> > cool.
>
> hi david
> i'm surprised that you've had problems with jitter on windows, my
> friend adam kendall does great stuff with his pc laptop, webcams and
> jitter live all the time. maybe look him up on the max list and see
> what his secret is...
> cheers
> bruce
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
> Philip K. Dick
>
>

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On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:28 PM, David Powers wrote:

> On the other hand, if Jitter worked better with Win it could be really
> cool.

hi david
i'm surprised that you've had problems with jitter on windows, my  
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jitter live all the time. maybe look him up on the max list and see  
what his secret is...
cheers
bruce

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I would be more excited if Cycling 74 were not so Mac-centric ... I've
had problems with their software under WinXP, with the paid-for
version FYI. For instance, it was not possible to get a simple $25
webcam to run with Jitter, whereas PureData had no problem utilizing
the same webcam in WinXP. The reason is an over-reliance on QuickTime
even after porting to Windows, it's basically a bad port.

And as for why I run WinXP, it's not that I like M$, but I can't
afford the alternative (I will now be looking at dual-boot Linux
system). Concretely, that means I'm buying an ultra-cheapo laptop
Friday, at far below the cost of any comparable Mac laptop. Of course,
it's annoying because I now have to uninstall Vista before I do
anything else, but ah well. That pain will probably pale quickly,
compared to what I go through on my first attempt to recompile the
Linux kernel... ;-)

On the other hand, if Jitter worked better with Win it could be really
cool. I also wonder about getting an older Mac laptop, I just don't
know enough to know what I should get, and what it would be able to
run.

Personally though, I'm hoping that some of the "pluggo4PD" ideas that
people are talking about get realized, because PD in Ableton would be
sweet. Even sweeter would be to get a non-commercial environment that
is good enough, that I can ditch Ableton all together for live techno.

~David

On 3/28/07, Dominic Tetmyer <xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> ableton and cycling 74
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3b3kn8
>
> > The two will join forces to create new software products for the
> > creative community, leveraging their skills, technologies and
> > combined thirty years of experience.
>
> Who else is eager for this partnership to produce results? Also, what
> do you think they could have in the pipeline? I am overly excited.
>
> Dominic
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ableton and cycling 74

http://tinyurl.com/3b3kn8

> The two will join forces to create new software products for the  
> creative community, leveraging their skills, technologies and  
> combined thirty years of experience.

Who else is eager for this partnership to produce results? Also, what  
do you think they could have in the pipeline? I am overly excited.

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gee, i kind of like "bugle" better...  ;-)
b

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> maybe a .microsound project mangling the 'Cagey' piece?

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nanoguitar:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Nov03/NEMSguitar.ws.html

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I have been thinking about the ringtones project
I think so long as the ringtone isn't unusually long anything will be ok
also they should be in either .mp3 or .wav format since I think most  
mobiles will play those formats


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if you are on PC there is a vstfx by analog-x -
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/vremover.htm I think
it works in the same way as described below :)

>>> xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx 03/27 8:03 pm >>>
your best bet here is the old "vocal eliminator" trick: take a stereo 

track into an audio editor that can invert phase, invert one track  
and combine them to mono, either through monitoring or by bouncing  
down the file. if the vocal is centered in the stereo field then  
voila - no voice. a funny by-product is the left-over reverb in the  
side channels...
have fun
bruce

On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:33 PM, mic wrote:

> hi to all,
> anyone know a software (a plugins effect or standalone)
> that delete or hide the voice track from song.
> thank you
> best
>
> mic
>

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pi is 
infinity, 
so everything you make is contained or "spread"  within pi , 
so what does mean end time for upload, 
what does mean your point of "pi" view 
is there a way,
a constelation point ,
in mathematics , the point has no existence, 
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On 26/03/2007, at 17.33, Kim Cascone wrote:

> podcast: I know how to work a RSS client and iTunes but was  
> wondering if there might be a script that would tell the reader to  
> load in all media on one page similar to how FlashGot works...

Such "script" would be specific to the reader much like FlashGot is  
to the Firefox browser since it's out of the scope of the podcast  
format to instruct the reader - it just feeds.

If you want a more user transparent and client independent (up to a  
web browser) 'one click get all' feature for distributing projects I  
think you're better off making a, say, PHP script that generates a  
ZIP archive of the contents of a project folder.

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i´ve uploaded an spanish version of Negri´s Empire.

you can find in the same folder as KIm´s one.

saludos

s


El 27/03/2007, a las 18:45, Kim Cascone escribió:

> I've uploaded two new files into the repository
> one is a pdf version of the Hardt/Negri book 'Empire'
> and the other is a powerpoint on musical semiotics
> you can find them here:
> Home / miscellaneous / Reading/EMPIRE_hardtnegri.pdf
> Home / miscellaneous / Reading/semiotic.ppt


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I uploaded some ringtones in .wav format into a new dir called
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upload your ringtones soon

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your best bet here is the old "vocal eliminator" trick: take a stereo  
track into an audio editor that can invert phase, invert one track  
and combine them to mono, either through monitoring or by bouncing  
down the file. if the vocal is centered in the stereo field then  
voila - no voice. a funny by-product is the left-over reverb in the  
side channels...
have fun
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> hi to all,
> anyone know a software (a plugins effect or standalone)
> that delete or hide the voice track from song.
> thank you
> best
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> mic
>

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hi to all,
anyone know a software (a plugins effect or standalone) 
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best

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I've uploaded two new files into the repository
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Dear Readers,
Back in December I was announcing that BiP_HOp had been nominated by  
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I was asking you to support and vote for us

Over the WE took place the Qwartz ceremony and to my great surprise  
BiP_HOp Generation v.8 has been Qwartz-awarded best compilation in 2006
According to the organisers we won because their jury loved the  
record but most of everything because a large amount of people click- 
voted for us, so allow me to THANK those of you who did

Staubgold was Qwartz-awarded best label in 2006 which pleased me as I  
consider it to be an amazing brand
Synch (Greece) + Nuits Sonores (Lyon) got Qwartz-awarded best  
festivals in 2006, and again that is a much deserved distinction

On Thursday I shared stage with Leafcutter John, Marsen Juhls... Also  
played over the WE Si-cut.db, Markus Detmer from Staubgold, FM3...  
and several others...
So as you could imagine that was a pleasant WE in Paris
Hav a nice week
philippe

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PS: for those who might have forgotten...

BiP_HOp Generation v. 8 [bleep 32]
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hi

On 3/26/07, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> 1 is not a prime number...but 2 is so why don't we make them 2
> seconds max?

ok with me.

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On Mar 26, 2007, at 6:12 AM, graham wrote:

> what does this have to do with marxism?

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/mathematical- 
manuscripts/review.htm
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> i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as well as
> having other inter relationships ...]

1 is not a prime number...but 2 is so why don't we make them 2  
seconds max?




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podcast: I know how to work a RSS client and iTunes but was wondering  
if there might be a script that would tell the reader to load in all  
media on one page similar to how FlashGot works...

as for ringtones: I listened to some of the toneshared media and  
thought they were pretty bad in general...not all producers make good  
sound designers I suppose

ringtones should be crafted to be utilitarian in addition to have  
reflect an aesthetic -- which I admit is a difficult line to walk for  
people not used to doing this

but I was hoping the list might produce something more useful, better  
quality, and reflect a broken/decayed/fuct-up digital approach...

and yes more than one may be uploaded...but please do not UL more  
than five ringtones

thoughts?



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Hi Federico 

In terms of an artistic tradition, how about this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suikinkutsu ?

And a modern incarnation here http://www.scoreforaholeintheground.org


Regards

Gary

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Subject: [microsound] George Brecht's "Drip Music"

Hello,

I hope this posting (my first for this list) doesn't stray too far from the
list's "digital aesthetic" focus. After to listening to Ben Patterson's
version of George Brecht's "Drip Music" piece from 1959, I recently found
myself wondering whether Brecht's piece could be seen as part of an artistic
tradition or tendency that has been extended, modified, or taken up by
contemporary sound artists.  Adam Overton and Nancy Popp are the only two
names I could come up with on my own. Any suggestions or comments? 

Federico

Here's some good info on the work, taken from this page:
http://members.chello.nl/j.seegers1/flux_files/brecht_performances.html

    * Drip Music 1959. For single or multiple performance. A source of
dripping water and an empty vessel are arranged so that the water falls into
the vessel.
    * 1959. Second Version. Dripping.
    * 1959. Fluxversion 1. Performer on a ladder pours water from a pitcher
very slowly down into the bell of a French horn or tuba held in playing
position by a second performer at floor level.
    * Performed in 2002 by Ben Patterson. Patterson wrote in the liner
notes: "Recently, as I was preparing a concert of classic Fluxus works, I
decided to re-examine the original scores, rather than rely on my memory of
preformances of the traditional interpretations of these works. Thus, I
discovered that George Brechts original instructions for Drip Music allowed
for both a single source or multiple sources of dripping water. Remembering
Georges first career as a chemist, employing laboratory equipment to produce
multiple, dripping sources seemed appropriate. A device was constructed
including 3 gerbil water bottles suspended from metal rods and a piece of
molded plastic packaging, amplified with contact microphone. Only micro
adjustments were made to provide differing drip frequencies. No
electro-acoustic manipulations or editorial tricks." [source: Alfa Marghen]

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what does this have to do with marxism?

On 25-Mar-07, at 6:43 PM, john saylor wrote:

> hi
>
>> On 25/03/2007, at 16.31, john saylor wrote:
>> > i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as  
>> well as
>> > having other inter relationships ...]
>
> On 3/25/07, Steffen <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>> How do you define "prime number"?
>
> smallest whole number factors are 1 and number. as ponted out [thx
> kyle] 1 is not really a prime. or maybe it depends on how deeply you
> look into the numbers.
>
> sry!
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hi

> On 25/03/2007, at 16.31, john saylor wrote:
> > i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as well as
> > having other inter relationships ...]

On 3/25/07, Steffen <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> How do you define "prime number"?

smallest whole number factors are 1 and number. as ponted out [thx
kyle] 1 is not really a prime. or maybe it depends on how deeply you
look into the numbers.

sry!

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I believe that 1 is not considered prime by mathematicians because it
would cause problems with prime factorization. Since each prime is
divisible by 1 and itself, to say that 1 is also divisible by 1 and 1
is a bit of overkill.

Then the prime factorization would have to be like this:
6 = 1*2*3, which causes problems because by that definition, 1 is both
composite AND prime. So,
6 = 1*1*2*3 = 1*1*1*1*...*1*2*3, ad infinitum.

This is sloppy for the algorithms that number theorists rely upon, so
1, like 0, is neither considered prime NOR composite. They are instead
respectively thought of as the multiplicative and additive identities.
In the field of real numbers.

~Kyle

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> On 25/03/2007, at 16.31, john saylor wrote:
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> > i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as well as
> > having other inter relationships ...]
>
> How do you define "prime number"?
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On 25/03/2007, at 16.31, john saylor wrote:

> i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as well as
> having other inter relationships ...]

How do you define "prime number"?

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hi

On 3/25/07, Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Nice! Much longer than a couple of seconds tho.
> Does that rule still apply to our project?
> and, yes, is there a maximum number of uploads?

i suggest 1 second and 3 entries. [both are prime numbers, as well as
having other inter relationships ...]

but i don't know that it's up to me ...
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On Mar 24, 2007, at 5:15 PM, Paulo Mouat wrote:

> Yes, here's the link I found a while back:
> http://www.toneshared.com/index.php? 
> view=library&subview=showFiles&artist=26


Nice! Much longer than a couple of seconds tho.
Does that rule still apply to our project?
and, yes, is there a maximum number of uploads?

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ooooooh... i like the atom heart ones:)

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> Yes, here's the link I found a while back:
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>
> //p
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Yes, here's the link I found a while back:
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On 3/24/07, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> native instruments did that kind of a project around xmas time.
>
> if you were a legit customer you could download ringtones made on NI
> software by all their featured artists, like richard devine, speedy
> j, tim exile, that kind of crowd...
>
> can't find the link but there was some really innovative ideas on
> there made by some great musicians/sound designers. might have been a
> limited time only kind of thing...
>
> g.
>
>
> On 24-Mar-07, at 1:53 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> > I have a proposal for a new project:
> > since most mobile phones can now use .mp3's and .wav's as ringtones
> > I propose a new project:
> > .microsound ringtones
> >
> > guidelines:
> > they should be short (no longer than a couple of seconds) and be
> > distinctive - i.e. keep the frequency response of mobile phone
> > speakers in mind so your ringtones can be heard
> > good idea to test them on your mobile before uploading them
> >
> > format:
> > make them 22/8 wav's or 128kbs mp3
> >
> > I'll create a dir in the meantime
> >
> > ***all ringtones that are uploaded will be considered free for
> > anyone to download use as a ringtone only -- not to be used in a
> > composition or for any other purpose
> >
> > deadline: April Friday the 13th
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As Steffen pointed out, the typical RSS reader will not load all old
entries in one go or at least by default. I mainly added this facility
to take advantage of those music players that can read these feeds--in
my case, to stream this material through my squeezebox into my 'big'
hifi (and it reads the project in full). This actually made me wish
the material was in lossless format, but that's another discussion...

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/

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> On 24/03/2007, at 18.23, Kim Cascone wrote:
>
> > also, is there a way to be able to podcast an entire project
> > without having to select each title for playback?
>
> The idea about a podcast is that you download new stuff as it come.
> Not as such to share/distribuate a bulk of things that are the
> product of a (non work in progress) project.
>
> If your podcast feed reading software (aka your podcast aggregator)
> support to download all "old" podcast or all podcasts in that feed,
> then you can get them in one go.
>
> Try to sub to it in iTunes (Advanced -> Subsccribe to Podcast ->
> Paste the direct url you get of the .microsound podcast page, fx
> <http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository/podcast/
> dircaster.php?project=PiDay2007>) another podcast capable program,
> cf. <http://www.podcastingnews.com/topics/Podcast_Software.html>.
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native instruments did that kind of a project around xmas time.

if you were a legit customer you could download ringtones made on NI  
software by all their featured artists, like richard devine, speedy  
j, tim exile, that kind of crowd...

can't find the link but there was some really innovative ideas on  
there made by some great musicians/sound designers. might have been a  
limited time only kind of thing...

g.


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> I have a proposal for a new project:
> since most mobile phones can now use .mp3's and .wav's as ringtones
> I propose a new project:
> .microsound ringtones
>
> guidelines:
> they should be short (no longer than a couple of seconds) and be  
> distinctive - i.e. keep the frequency response of mobile phone  
> speakers in mind so your ringtones can be heard
> good idea to test them on your mobile before uploading them
>
> format:
> make them 22/8 wav's or 128kbs mp3
>
> I'll create a dir in the meantime
>
> ***all ringtones that are uploaded will be considered free for  
> anyone to download use as a ringtone only -- not to be used in a  
> composition or for any other purpose
>
> deadline: April Friday the 13th
>
>
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On 24/03/2007, at 18.23, Kim Cascone wrote:

> also, is there a way to be able to podcast an entire project  
> without having to select each title for playback?

The idea about a podcast is that you download new stuff as it come.  
Not as such to share/distribuate a bulk of things that are the  
product of a (non work in progress) project.

If your podcast feed reading software (aka your podcast aggregator)  
support to download all "old" podcast or all podcasts in that feed,  
then you can get them in one go.

Try to sub to it in iTunes (Advanced -> Subsccribe to Podcast ->  
Paste the direct url you get of the .microsound podcast page, fx  
<http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository/podcast/ 
dircaster.php?project=PiDay2007>) another podcast capable program,  
cf. <http://www.podcastingnews.com/topics/Podcast_Software.html>.

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Kim,

Q: can more than 1 be uploaded?

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> I have a proposal for a new project:
> since most mobile phones can now use .mp3's and .wav's as ringtones
> I propose a new project:
> .microsound ringtones
>
> guidelines:
> they should be short (no longer than a couple of seconds) and be
> distinctive - i.e. keep the frequency response of mobile phone
> speakers in mind so your ringtones can be heard
> good idea to test them on your mobile before uploading them
>
> format:
> make them 22/8 wav's or 128kbs mp3
>
> I'll create a dir in the meantime
>
> ***all ringtones that are uploaded will be considered free for anyone
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> or for any other purpose
>
> deadline: April Friday the 13th
>
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thanks kim!
i reuploaded my track just now...the first 194 digits of pi

enjoy!

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I have a proposal for a new project:
since most mobile phones can now use .mp3's and .wav's as ringtones
I propose a new project:
..microsound ringtones

guidelines:
they should be short (no longer than a couple of seconds) and be  
distinctive - i.e. keep the frequency response of mobile phone  
speakers in mind so your ringtones can be heard
good idea to test them on your mobile before uploading them

format:
make them 22/8 wav's or 128kbs mp3

I'll create a dir in the meantime

***all ringtones that are uploaded will be considered free for anyone  
to download use as a ringtone only -- not to be used in a composition  
or for any other purpose

deadline: April Friday the 13th



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hey I love the podcast addition! very nice!
any of you with radio shows who want to broadcast the PiDay2007  
material (or past projects) please feel free to do so...

issue: when I load the URL <http://podcasts.interdisciplina.org> into  
Firefox and sub to the feed I get some strange behaviors in FF
after I click on a project I am able to see all the individual pieces  
and select one for playing back in my browser
but when I hit the back button FF thinks I want to save a bookmark
if I reenter the URL <http://podcasts.interdisciplina.org> into my  
browser and try to select a project again it does the same thing --  
asks me if I want to save a bookmark
anyone else able to replicate this behavior in OS X/FF 2.0.0.3?

also, is there a way to be able to podcast an entire project without  
having to select each title for playback?
i.e., have them all the PiDay2007 pieces play in order 1st to last?


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Thanx Paulo for adding my adress.

so, now I have uploaded my piday2007 piece:
pi_pol

enjoy
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> > meanings; and our resultant collective response to contemporary world
> > events.
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> > In "Zapruder effect Meets Pi" the recording of Marilyn Monroe singing
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> > (approximately 22 semitones) layered and then reversed to represent the
> > circular re-access and re-presentation of iconic media.
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ludolph_and_lambert.mp3
some sinus tones related to the pi number were tweaked about 3.1415 times 
and a master sound was produced. then about 3.1415 times this master sound 
was processed further. / miulew [http://miulew.podomatic.com]



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All issues with the podcasts reported earlier are now solved. I've
also added a page that automatically links to all of them and is much
easier to remember (and type):

http://podcasts.interdisciplina.org

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/

On 3/21/07, Paulo Mouat <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> All,
>
> I am happy to announce the availability of all content in the projects
> folder hierarchy of the repository as a series of podcasts. There is
> one per project, and the feed URL is of the form
>
> http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository/podcast/dircaster.php?project=<project
> name>
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> (substitute <project name> for e.g. RNDTXT, or bufferFuct)
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> There are some issues with a few of the projects, but these will be
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> Happy listening!
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i have a track - that are now finished - and being uploaded to repository.
been out of the net all week due to a trip so i have not been updated on all 
things on pi project.

/björn eriksson  (aka miulew)

p.s sascha - there is need for using the e-mail adress , the one u once 
subscribed with to microsound list. if u later changed - - it might not be 
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I made a track for piday2007,
but can´t register at the microsound repository, for
uploading.
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~.mp3 uploaded...again!

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> bryce beverlin II - pi - first 194.mp3
> bbII - first 194
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 16.03.2007 09:25
> 19
> john hanes slice-a-py-py.mp3
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 16.03.2007 19:38
> jhanes
> knob alchemist - my pee celebration.mp3
> my track dedicated to 3.14... I've also made that setting many
> parameters of fx to 3.14 value. I have also opened some samples as a
> text files and inputted in the string 3.14 in many points of the text...
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 17.03.2007 09:27
> knobalch
> PI-Karamazov.mp3
> Pi-Karamazov, a live recording, using a newly made physical interface
> processed by Pure Data. Pi variations are used to control filter
> parameters, as 3.14+3.14+3.14, 3.14 powerof 3.14, 3.14*3.14, 3+1+4.
> Harmonics are in between 3 and 14. And I was thinking Pi when moving
> around.
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 17.03.2007 03:43
> evasjuve
> ~.mp3
> processed recitation of the amount of digits in pi that it took me to
> read in 3minutes and 14 seconds. All processing parameters use pi or
> multiples.
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 17.03.2007 12:42
> gr2w
> kevin paul - wheel inside a wheel.mp3
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 3.71 Mb
> 17.03.2007 21:00
> kcpaul
> threepointsuture.mp3
> "Three Point Suture (for One)" : Time limit for completion is 3.14
> hours. Use the number 3.1415, with decimal point relocation allowed,
> for all required parameters when performing synthesis, sampling, and
> audio manipulation while using three tools.
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.96 Mb
> 18.03.2007 12:32
> craque
> Drohnwerks - 3.14.MP3
> Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against
> each (ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6
> days before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was
> passed through resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the
> resonated and reverbed soundfile
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 2.99 Mb
> 19.03.2007 04:41
> jlemin
>
> mantissaShips.mp3
> 65536 bits of binary pi lovingly mangled and mixed with Max/MSP.
> Home/projects/PiDay2007
> 4.44 Mb
> 20.03.2007 16:18
> anechoic
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uploading.
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the microsound list. but it is.
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Sascha

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i like #3 the best

> hi,
> i just uploaded the rough sketches of pi day cover...
> choose one of them
> or any idea to improve them :)
> thanks
> gurkan
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p.s alternate title is Happy Pi Day

Noel Peters
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> Zapruder Effect Meets Pi is an extension of visual artist Jai McKenzie's
> installation piece "The Zapruder Effect" in which she re-presents the raw
> material of television mediated imagery to initiate a dialogue about the
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> Happy Birthday to JFK is timestetched 3.14 semitones for seven intervals
> (approximately 22 semitones) layered and then reversed to represent the
> circular re-access and re-presentation of iconic media.
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....oops



Zapruder Effect Meets Pi is an extension of visual artist Jai McKenzie's
installation piece "The Zapruder Effect" in which she re-presents the raw
material of television mediated imagery to initiate a dialogue about the
logistics of perception; the mass consumption of assumed truths and
meanings; and our resultant collective response to contemporary world
events.

In "Zapruder effect Meets Pi" the recording of Marilyn Monroe singing
Happy Birthday to JFK is timestetched 3.14 semitones for seven intervals
(approximately 22 semitones) layered and then reversed to represent the
circular re-access and re-presentation of iconic media.

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"cyborgk-pi_data.mp3"

PiData, by Cyborg K aka David A. Powers.  All synthesis and sequencing
was done by a single Pure Data patch, rendered in a single take, then
normalized in an external sound editor. More complex synthesis and fx
were done with the aid of the Pure Data [vst~] object. The custom
[getpi] abstraction was used to output n digits of the first 10,000
digits of Pi at a time: all variable parameters, whether harmonic,
rhythmic, or synthetic were driven by instances of the [getpi]
abstraction. Overall rhythmic structure was based on the fibonacci
sequence: 8 + 13 + 21 + 34 + 21 + 13 + 8 + 34 + 21 + 13 + 8 = 194
seconds = 3:14. The piece took about 15-20 hours to complete,
including building abstractions from scratch within Pure Data.

~David

*just in time, wow, that was a lot of work!!!

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hello...

i have uploaded my track to the server:

will_soderberg-irrationale.mp3 

thanx to kim and all who have worked on this... 

~will s.


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those of you who uploaded pieces before middle of this week need to  
RE-upload them
please check the repository and check to see if your piece is there

also the deadline is tomorrow the 23rd -- so get those pieces up on  
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hello,

uploaded file: "the army of a thousand gimps" it's a percussion solo
recorded directly to 2 track with no postedits. thank you.

tomek




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Thanks Jon for this info.
I've been watching/listening this evening.

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> 100 Meeting Places: A Live Telepresence Four Way Co-Located
> Performance via Internet2
>
> Thursday March 22, 2007 8:00PM EST
> LIVE WEB STREAM
> http://www.arts.rpi.edu/streaming/arts/iear_live.asx
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> Collaborators -
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> Weave Soundpainting Orchestra
> Performing at Loyola University, Chicago IL
> Sarah Weaver, Director with technical support by
> Christopher Sorg, and guest appearance by dancer
> Asimina Chremos
>
> Tintinnabulate
> At Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
> Pauline Oliveros, Director with technical support by
> Jonas Braasch & Dan Valente
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> Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics
> (CCRMA) At Stanford University, Stanford CA
> Chris Chafe, Director with technical support by Juan
> Pablo Caceres
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> Digital Arts New Media (DANM)
> At University of California Santa Cruz
> Mixed Ensemble organized by Cynthia Payne with
> technical support by Lynne Sheehan, Jim Warner, Bob
> Vitale, Joe Owens,Terry Figel and Lyle Troxell
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> Weave Soundpainting Orchestra, Tintinnabulate,
> CCRMA, and DANM collaborate via Internet2 for this
> unique performance. Using live audio and video
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> time using a high-speed internet2 connection with Jack
> Trip software developed by Chris Chafe, Director of
> CCRMA, and video through MAC OS 10 iCHATav.
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> For more information contact 312-423-7975
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> Program -
>
> 100 Meeting Places for all ensembles - by Pauline
> Oliveros
>
> Less for all ensembles - by Else Storesund
>
> Four Channel Cello Concerto featuring Chris Chafe as
> soloist & Sarah Weaver as Soundpainter with all
> ensembles - by Chris Chafe and Sarah Weaver
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> Four Sides to Everything: an open improvisation with all ensembles,
> visual performance by Arthur van
> Hartenberg, and dance performance by Asimina
> Chremos
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> Biographies -
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> Weave Soundpainting Orchestra is a multidisciplinary
> performance ensemble based in Chicago, IL. Featuring
> musicians, actors, dancers, and visual art Soundpainted
> by Artistic Director Sarah Weaver, Weave is on the
> forefront of new genres in contemporary
> multidisciplinary performance. Soundpainting is the live
> composing sign language created by New York
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> interesting acoustic spaces with acoustic and electronic
> instruments and has participated in many co-located
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hi

i've tasked myself with getting together a list of files for each
collection done by the .microsounders in any of their various
incarnations. but i'm either too overscheduled, too freakin lazy, too
disorganized, or too slow to get it done. this effort is to enable
people to download entire collections in one click. perhaps these
collections will get to bittorrent-land in the future ...

so instead of waiting for myself- i thought i'd put out a call.

if anyone wants to make a text file of any or some or all the projects
and the URLs to the files, that would be wonderful. i'm thinking of
something like this:

MADRID
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Eleven.mp3: http://microsound.org/madrid/audio/Andrew_Duke/Eleven.mp3
Andrew Duke: http://microsound.org/madrid/additionalFile.php?file=audio/Andrew_Duke/Eleven.txt
wbformadrid.mp3: http://microsound.org/madrid/audio/B_Owen/wbformadrid.mp3


the format is like this:
link_name: link_URL

contributions of any sort are appreciated.

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CD covers are in the respository
check them out
any other designers want to take a shot at making some Pi banners and  
icons for the PiDay2007 website?
  

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hi,
i just uploaded the rough sketches of pi day cover...
choose one of them
or any idea to improve them :)
thanks
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hi,
i just uploaded my piece called "soduz_pi.raw.mp3"
"gmihci/soduz pi symbol can be a sound Photoshop, Sound Forge, Pro Tools"
gurkan
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Can you please give the link again, i  can't upload anything. And for the
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bryce beverlin II - pi - first 194.mp3
bbII - first 194
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
16.03.2007 09:25
19
john hanes slice-a-py-py.mp3
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
16.03.2007 19:38
jhanes
knob alchemist - my pee celebration.mp3
my track dedicated to 3.14... I've also made that setting many  
parameters of fx to 3.14 value. I have also opened some samples as a  
text files and inputted in the string 3.14 in many points of the text...
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
17.03.2007 09:27
knobalch
PI-Karamazov.mp3
Pi-Karamazov, a live recording, using a newly made physical interface  
processed by Pure Data. Pi variations are used to control filter  
parameters, as 3.14+3.14+3.14, 3.14 powerof 3.14, 3.14*3.14, 3+1+4.  
Harmonics are in between 3 and 14. And I was thinking Pi when moving  
around.
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
17.03.2007 03:43
evasjuve
~.mp3
processed recitation of the amount of digits in pi that it took me to  
read in 3minutes and 14 seconds. All processing parameters use pi or  
multiples.
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
17.03.2007 12:42
gr2w
kevin paul - wheel inside a wheel.mp3
Home/projects/PiDay2007
3.71 Mb
17.03.2007 21:00
kcpaul
threepointsuture.mp3
"Three Point Suture (for One)" : Time limit for completion is 3.14  
hours. Use the number 3.1415, with decimal point relocation allowed,  
for all required parameters when performing synthesis, sampling, and  
audio manipulation while using three tools.
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.96 Mb
18.03.2007 12:32
craque
Drohnwerks - 3.14.MP3
Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against  
each (ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6  
days before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was  
passed through resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the  
resonated and reverbed soundfile
Home/projects/PiDay2007
2.99 Mb
19.03.2007 04:41
jlemin

mantissaShips.mp3
65536 bits of binary pi lovingly mangled and mixed with Max/MSP.
Home/projects/PiDay2007
4.44 Mb
20.03.2007 16:18
anechoic

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hi,

i've uploaded my Pi track to the repository, it is called: 16_9.mp3

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All,

I am happy to announce the availability of all content in the projects
folder hierarchy of the repository as a series of podcasts. There is
one per project, and the feed URL is of the form

http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository/podcast/dircaster.php?project=<project
name>

(substitute <project name> for e.g. RNDTXT, or bufferFuct)

There are some issues with a few of the projects, but these will be
ironed out in the next few days.

Happy listening!

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Unfortunately something stupid happened (where the reason sits between
the screen and the keyboard) and the files are irretrievably gone.
Apologies for any inconvenience.

That happened while I was preparing a new feature, which I will
announce in a separate email...

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Thanks, Paulo. That did it.
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It should be working now. It is a known issue in the current version
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I've written a description of my piece in the "file description" box,
but it doesn't show up under my file name on the pi page.
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Hello,

I hope this posting (my first for this list) doesn't stray too far from
the list's "digital aesthetic" focus. After to listening to Ben
Patterson's version of George Brecht's "Drip Music" piece from 1959, I
recently found myself wondering whether Brecht's piece could be seen as
part of an artistic tradition or tendency that has been extended,
modified, or taken up by contemporary sound artists.  Adam Overton and
Nancy Popp are the only two names I could come up with on my own. Any
suggestions or comments? 

Federico

Here's some good info on the work, taken from this page:
http://members.chello.nl/j.seegers1/flux_files/brecht_performances.html

    * Drip Music 1959. For single or multiple performance. A source of
dripping water and an empty vessel are arranged so that the water falls
into the vessel.
    * 1959. Second Version. Dripping.
    * 1959. Fluxversion 1. Performer on a ladder pours water from a
pitcher very slowly down into the bell of a French horn or tuba held in
playing position by a second performer at floor level.
    * Performed in 2002 by Ben Patterson. Patterson wrote in the liner
notes: "Recently, as I was preparing a concert of classic Fluxus works,
I decided to re-examine the original scores, rather than rely on my
memory of preformances of the traditional interpretations of these
works. Thus, I discovered that George Brechts original instructions for
Drip Music allowed for both a single source or multiple sources of
dripping water. Remembering Georges first career as a chemist, employing
laboratory equipment to produce multiple, dripping sources seemed
appropriate. A device was constructed including 3 gerbil water bottles
suspended from metal rods and a piece of molded plastic packaging,
amplified with contact microphone. Only micro adjustments were made to
provide differing drip frequencies. No electro-acoustic manipulations or
editorial tricks." [source: Alfa Marghen]

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AMD's have served me well and have at times performed better for less
money than Intel. I don't know who currently has the upper hand but I
don't like to mix platforms on the ole renderfarm( 3d animation). So I
can't really say if one or the other has any advantage for audio.

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> Yea, that is how my MBP is setup, except with Parallels. Might I  
> inquire your reasoning behind choosing AMD? Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Xdugef wrote:
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> >
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> >>
> >> Dual Core 64bit chips? Any personal experience is appreciated.
> Thanks
> >>
> >> in advance.
> >>
> >> something like this is what has my interest piqued:
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> >> http://tinyurl.com/ytmg3
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Yea, that is how my MBP is setup, except with Parallels. Might I  
inquire your reasoning behind choosing AMD? Thanks.


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>
> otherwise I prefer AMD and opterons myself
>
> --- Dominic Tetmyer <xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I am very close to purchasing a third computer for my house, and am
>> thinking of getting a PC machine. OS preferences aside ( I am an OSX
>>
>> loyalist), what chip should I seek out? I am most curious about AMDs
>>
>> since I know what Intels can do. Anyone have any experience running
>> audio software/hardware along with AMD motherboards? How are the AMD
>>
>> Dual Core 64bit chips? Any personal experience is appreciated. Thanks
>>
>> in advance.
>>
>> something like this is what has my interest piqued:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ytmg3
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>> Dominic
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Oh you could just get an intel mac and run bootcamp and have both.

otherwise I prefer AMD and opterons myself

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> 
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> 
> Dual Core 64bit chips? Any personal experience is appreciated. Thanks
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Hello,

I am very close to purchasing a third computer for my house, and am  
thinking of getting a PC machine. OS preferences aside ( I am an OSX  
loyalist), what chip should I seek out? I am most curious about AMDs  
since I know what Intels can do. Anyone have any experience running  
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in advance.

something like this is what has my interest piqued:

http://tinyurl.com/ytmg3

Dominic


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fantastic!! -- pieces are starting to trickle in
a nudge to those who have yet to contribute
again, the deadline has been extended until Friday the 23rd
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On 3/18/07, Paulo Mouat <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> There was a recent upgrade to the hardware and, I believe, some of the
> software infrastructure. This may have caused some issues wrt scripts
> on the server, which may impact the sending of emails. Let me know
> what you are trying to do and I will look into it from my end.
>
> //p
> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/
>
> On 3/17/07, xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > LOL, I hadn't realised that the file was that quiet - I have normailised
> > it (-3.14 db) and encoded it as 128kb mp3 here :
> > http://www.box.net/shared/48zk4yykkd
> >
> > I have had problems with getting the auth  email for the Microsound folder
> > - any ideas?
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:27:29 -0000, Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:33 PM, xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> here :http://www.box.net/shared/orek64jdfd
> > >>
> > >> Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against
> > >> each (ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6
> > >> days before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was passed
> > >> through resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the resonated and
> > >> reverbed soundfile was hacked in spear (3.14 hz steps) so that the end
> > >> file has no partials over 3.14Khz, and all partials under 314Hz were
> > >> joined.
> > >>
> > >> Not sure whether it works on a conceptual level (although the Psalms
> > >> could be read as the type of justification that Bush gives for invading
> > >> countries) I think it works less well on a musical level - sounds mushy
> > >> and formless if i am honest, however feedback is welcomed.
> > >
> > >
> > >   I think it sounds great. It needs to be 3.14 times louder....
> > >>
> > >> I have encoded it as 64k AAC due to laziness ;)
> > >>
> > >> The source files can be found at: http://www.box.net/shared/ph1qz30yxg
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
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On 3/17/07, xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> LOL, I hadn't realised that the file was that quiet - I have normailised
> it (-3.14 db) and encoded it as 128kb mp3 here :
> http://www.box.net/shared/48zk4yykkd
>
> I have had problems with getting the auth  email for the Microsound folder
> - any ideas?
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:27:29 -0000, Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:33 PM, xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> here :http://www.box.net/shared/orek64jdfd
> >>
> >> Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against
> >> each (ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6
> >> days before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was passed
> >> through resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the resonated and
> >> reverbed soundfile was hacked in spear (3.14 hz steps) so that the end
> >> file has no partials over 3.14Khz, and all partials under 314Hz were
> >> joined.
> >>
> >> Not sure whether it works on a conceptual level (although the Psalms
> >> could be read as the type of justification that Bush gives for invading
> >> countries) I think it works less well on a musical level - sounds mushy
> >> and formless if i am honest, however feedback is welcomed.
> >
> >
> >   I think it sounds great. It needs to be 3.14 times louder....
> >>
> >> I have encoded it as 64k AAC due to laziness ;)
> >>
> >> The source files can be found at: http://www.box.net/shared/ph1qz30yxg
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
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I believe direct links do not work the way you expect, at least I
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On 3/17/07, Gary R. Weisberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Point taken...for those of us who are mouse click challenged ;).
>
> http://interdisciplina.dmethods.com/microsound-repository/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=~.mp3&directory=projects/PiDay2007&
>
> gr2w
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steffen" <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Pi Day 2007 entry
>
>
> >
> > On 17/03/2007, at 21.52, Gary R. Weisberg wrote:
> >
> >>  I recorded my recitation of as many digits in the number that I
> >> could rattle off in 3 minutes and 14 seconds. Then, the voice  recording
> >> was processed
> >
> > Maybe not surprising, alas, but it seam from the download "stats"  that
> > providing a direct link to the audio file results in notable  more
> > downloads then simple announcement which require actually doing  something
> > (a few mouse clicks).
> >
> > I like the idea in ~ for it's simpleness. - And for the fact that I
> > strive so much to make sense out of the fragments that are  recognizable
> > and relate them to the <insert adjective> concept I find  somewhat
> > disturbing. ~ is also my second favorite ASCII character  (funnily enough
> > it is the second last in the table) just after *.
> >
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Point taken...for those of us who are mouse click challenged ;).

http://interdisciplina.dmethods.com/microsound-repository/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=~.mp3&directory=projects/PiDay2007&

gr2w

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>
> On 17/03/2007, at 21.52, Gary R. Weisberg wrote:
>
>>  I recorded my recitation of as many digits in the number that I
>> could rattle off in 3 minutes and 14 seconds. Then, the voice  recording 
>> was processed
>
> Maybe not surprising, alas, but it seam from the download "stats"  that 
> providing a direct link to the audio file results in notable  more 
> downloads then simple announcement which require actually doing  something 
> (a few mouse clicks).
>
> I like the idea in ~ for it's simpleness. - And for the fact that I 
> strive so much to make sense out of the fragments that are  recognizable 
> and relate them to the <insert adjective> concept I find  somewhat 
> disturbing. ~ is also my second favorite ASCII character  (funnily enough 
> it is the second last in the table) just after *.
>
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On 17/03/2007, at 21.52, Gary R. Weisberg wrote:

>  I recorded my recitation of as many digits in the number that I
> could rattle off in 3 minutes and 14 seconds. Then, the voice  
> recording was processed

Maybe not surprising, alas, but it seam from the download "stats"  
that providing a direct link to the audio file results in notable  
more downloads then simple announcement which require actually doing  
something (a few mouse clicks).

I like the idea in ~ for it's simpleness. - And for the fact that I  
strive so much to make sense out of the fragments that are  
recognizable and relate them to the <insert adjective> concept I find  
somewhat disturbing. ~ is also my second favorite ASCII character  
(funnily enough it is the second last in the table) just after *.

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Just uploaded my file to the repository.

Piece entitled "~" -a double nod to the essentially approximate nature of 
all calculations using irrational numbers,
and to the inherent sloppiness of my calculations. I recorded my recitation 
of as many digits in the number that I
could rattle off in 3 minutes and 14 seconds. Then, the voice recording was 
processed using EVP maker and
Audio Mulch, with all parameters set to the first 3-5 digits of pi, or 
multiples thereof.

Enjoy,

gr2w 


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LOL, I hadn't realised that the file was that quiet - I have normailised  
it (-3.14 db) and encoded it as 128kb mp3 here :  
http://www.box.net/shared/48zk4yykkd

I have had problems with getting the auth  email for the Microsound folder  
- any ideas?

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> On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:33 PM, xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote:
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>>
>> here :http://www.box.net/shared/orek64jdfd
>>
>> Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against  
>> each (ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6  
>> days before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was passed  
>> through resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the resonated and  
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>> joined.
>>
>> Not sure whether it works on a conceptual level (although the Psalms  
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>> countries) I think it works less well on a musical level - sounds mushy  
>> and formless if i am honest, however feedback is welcomed.
>
>
>   I think it sounds great. It needs to be 3.14 times louder....
>>
>> I have encoded it as 64k AAC due to laziness ;)
>>
>> The source files can be found at: http://www.box.net/shared/ph1qz30yxg
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I have upped my track...comments and critiques are appreciated! ;-D

knob alchemist - my pee celebration.mp3 
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my track dedicated to 3.14... I've also made that setting many 
parameters of fx to 3.14 value. I have also opened some samples as a 
text files and inputted in the string 3.14 in many points of the text...
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I just uploaded my Pi-Karamazov piece
-e

David Powers wrote:
> I am, but it would be much better if I had Sunday also, to try and
> complete the piece. It's about 1/3 of the way done, last night I gave
> a free workshop on "varieties of synthetic experiences" - the research
> / PD object building for it cut severely into my time for the Pi
> project.
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>> Kevin Paul
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in response to the many emails I've been getting w/r/t the Hotline  
server:
we decommissioned this a couple of years ago
please upload your works to the project server
there is a link on the microsound front page
the folder for PiDay2007 can be found at:
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here :http://www.box.net/shared/orek64jdfd

Source Material was Psalm 3 and Psalm 14 GM files soundhacked against each  
(ratio: 0.314) other and a speech made by Bush on Pi Day 2003 (6 days  
before the official invasion of Iraq), resulting sound was passed through  
resonators (3) and reverbs (3) once recorded the resonated and reverbed  
soundfile was hacked in spear (3.14 hz steps) so that the end file has no  
partials over 3.14Khz, and all partials under 314Hz were joined.

Not sure whether it works on a conceptual level (although the Psalms could  
be read as the type of justification that Bush gives for invading  
countries) I think it works less well on a musical level - sounds mushy  
and formless if i am honest, however feedback is welcomed.

I have encoded it as 64k AAC due to laziness ;)

The source files can be found at: http://www.box.net/shared/ph1qz30yxg

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I'm going to loosen the deadline and the rules a little:
- piece no longer has to have been made on Pi Day
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but please still email the list when you have a piece ready to upload
I've created a dir here:
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done with my pi piece!

haven't uploaded it yet though.
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``We incorporated messages into an acoustic sound wave telling gamers
to stop playing. The messages are told 10,000 to 20,000 times per
second,'' Xtive President Yun Yun-hae said.

maybe we could do a sub/super-sonic project. where the sound files
generated are inaudible.

maybe it's just my own perversity, but that appeals to me ...

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I wonder if there is any application in microsound?
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I am, but it would be much better if I had Sunday also, to try and
complete the piece. It's about 1/3 of the way done, last night I gave
a free workshop on "varieties of synthetic experiences" - the research
/ PD object building for it cut severely into my time for the Pi
project.

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I am.  Should be ready just under the wire on Sat.

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I am, ready to upload when ready.

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Even worse, the fraternity and sorority system also pronounce phi to
rhyme with 'sky' instead of 'sea'!

~Kyle

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Hallo,
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Wait what I'll do when I finally get my Wii running under Liinux. ;) 

> Unfortunately we in the US say pi like 'pie,' probably because the
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Oh, the greek won't like that, I guess.

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i am doing some thinking works - of a piece that will be pretty fast 
produced tomorrow.

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> yes, I have started a piece, but have just got a ring modulator that I am 
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yes, I have started a piece, but have just got a ring modulator that I am itching to try out :)

hope to have something to show for my efforts tommorrow :)

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is the 17th a "hard" deadline?
b

On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:

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ready for upload: "Slice-a Py Py" - three minutes and fourteen  
seconds of The Meters' classic
"Look-a Py Py" at 3.14 bpm (with 3.14 dB boosts at 314 and 3140 Hz).

-john hanes
p.s. I performed the surgery using C-74's radiaL. 

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Pie piece in hand! Even done in under 3.14 hours!
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Thought this might be of interest to some of you...

-- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- -  
-- - --

100 Meeting Places: A Live Telepresence Four Way Co-Located
Performance via Internet2

Thursday March 22, 2007 8:00PM EST
LIVE WEB STREAM
http://www.arts.rpi.edu/streaming/arts/iear_live.asx

For more information contact xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
www.weavesoundpainting.org
http://www.arts.rpi.edu/ 
newsID=110&ngid=7&pageid=91&siteid=3&PHPSESSID=938e4c0ddaaf9c61027f1c6be 
ce85247
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/groups/soundwire/

Collaborators -

Weave Soundpainting Orchestra
Performing at Loyola University, Chicago IL
Sarah Weaver, Director with technical support by
Christopher Sorg, and guest appearance by dancer
Asimina Chremos

Tintinnabulate
At Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Pauline Oliveros, Director with technical support by
Jonas Braasch & Dan Valente

Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics
(CCRMA) At Stanford University, Stanford CA
Chris Chafe, Director with technical support by Juan
Pablo Caceres

Digital Arts New Media (DANM)
At University of California Santa Cruz
Mixed Ensemble organized by Cynthia Payne with
technical support by Lynne Sheehan, Jim Warner, Bob
Vitale, Joe Owens,Terry Figel and Lyle Troxell

Weave Soundpainting Orchestra, Tintinnabulate,
CCRMA, and DANM collaborate via Internet2 for this
unique performance. Using live audio and video
streams, the four groups will perform together in real
time using a high-speed internet2 connection with Jack
Trip software developed by Chris Chafe, Director of
CCRMA, and video through MAC OS 10 iCHATav.

For more information contact 312-423-7975
xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

Program -

100 Meeting Places for all ensembles - by Pauline
Oliveros

Less for all ensembles - by Else Storesund

Four Channel Cello Concerto featuring Chris Chafe as
soloist & Sarah Weaver as Soundpainter with all
ensembles - by Chris Chafe and Sarah Weaver

Four Sides to Everything: an open improvisation with all ensembles,
visual performance by Arthur van
Hartenberg, and dance performance by Asimina
Chremos

Biographies -

Weave Soundpainting Orchestra is a multidisciplinary
performance ensemble based in Chicago, IL. Featuring
musicians, actors, dancers, and visual art Soundpainted
by Artistic Director Sarah Weaver, Weave is on the
forefront of new genres in contemporary
multidisciplinary performance. Soundpainting is the live
composing sign language created by New York
composer Walter Thompson for musicians, dancers,
actors, poets, and visual artists working in the medium
of structured improvisation. For more information on
Weave please visit www.weavesoundpainting.org

Tintinnabulate is a multimedia ensemble of graduate
students and faculty of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
created and currently directed by Pauline Oliveros with
technical support by Jonas Braasch and Dan Valente of
the Architecture department. Tintinnabulate performs in
interesting acoustic spaces with acoustic and electronic
instruments and has participated in many co-located
telepresence performances via the INTERNET. Currently
Tintinnabulate is involved in weekly networked
rehearsals with CCRMA at Stanford University and other
locations.

The Stanford University Center for Computer Research
in Music and Acoustics (CCRMA) is a multi-disciplinary
facility where composers and researchers work
together using computer-based technology both as an
artistic medium and as a research tool.


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Hahaha-oh man you should do that next year!

Unfortunately we in the US say pi like 'pie,' probably because the
letter 'p' is so prevalent in maths.

~Kyle

On 3/14/07, Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hallo,
> Kim Cascone hat gesagt: // Kim Cascone wrote:
> > first of all
> > happy pi day
> > secondly, if you are serious about contributing to this project
> > please send an email to the list once you have a piece ready to upload
> > if you have visuals let us know where to view them online
> > remember the deadline is March 17th
> > fire up those laptops and make something! :)
>
> Hm, too late now: For practical reasons I couldn't do the Pi project I
> was planning today, so instead of cheating and doing it tomorrow
> here's my unrealized project idea:
>
> * 3/14 at noon I was sitting in front of three full and one not
>  completely full bottles of water, 3.14159265... litre in all to
>  be honest.
> * I drank them all and waited 3.14159265... hours.
> * Now it's 3:14159265 pm CET when I finally was allowed to visit the
>  loo.
> * I made a field recording for 3.14159265... minutes how the water
>  was allowed to leave my body again.
> * This was encoded to mp3 and then I uploaded my infantile "pee song"
>  to .microsound.
> * But I didn't do it in the end.
>
> Ciao
> --
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Hallo,
Kim Cascone hat gesagt: // Kim Cascone wrote:
> first of all
> happy pi day
> secondly, if you are serious about contributing to this project  
> please send an email to the list once you have a piece ready to upload
> if you have visuals let us know where to view them online
> remember the deadline is March 17th
> fire up those laptops and make something! :)

Hm, too late now: For practical reasons I couldn't do the Pi project I
was planning today, so instead of cheating and doing it tomorrow
here's my unrealized project idea:

* 3/14 at noon I was sitting in front of three full and one not 
  completely full bottles of water, 3.14159265... litre in all to 
  be honest. 
* I drank them all and waited 3.14159265... hours. 
* Now it's 3:14159265 pm CET when I finally was allowed to visit the
  loo.
* I made a field recording for 3.14159265... minutes how the water 
  was allowed to leave my body again.
* This was encoded to mp3 and then I uploaded my infantile "pee song" 
  to .microsound.
* But I didn't do it in the end.

Ciao
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boy, if you can't do that math then maybe this isn't the project for  
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wish i had the time...
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D22 for performances.

>
> There is also a large Soviet-styled warehouse that's been converted  
> into artist spaces and design studios in Beijing.  I can't remember  
> what it's called, but it has a website, and is pretty big and  
> impressive.  Its name is a number of some sort.
the area is called dashanzi (大山子)art district 798, it's between  
the airport and the city. i'm not a big fan of it, it has become very  
commercial and isolated. those of you who are into the marxist stuff  
that flies around here would have a treat analyzing that ; )
if you're lucky there may be something interesting there, it's very  
large. the area used to be a german fireworks factory btw, very  
beautiful bauhaus style. worth the taxi fare by itself.
also search for dorkbot beijing. there's also a very nice dvd shop  
called the blue goat (near qinghua university west gate) and a great  
obscure music store that unfortunately needs to keep moving. also  
bookmark www.hidemyass.com to evade the great firewall to visit sites  
such as bbc.

have fun : )

>
> Have a great time!
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I am in China for a few weeks. Anyone knows about interesting  
>> places in Guangzhou or Beijing right now?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivo
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On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, philippe cavaleri wrote:

> maybe we should talk about it off the list? But maybe not, as it's 
> part of
> the whole project? kim?
>
> 2007/3/12, gurkan mihci <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>:
>>
>> i am a designer, i can help about CD design, too...
>> you may take the photos, then i may design..
>> gurkan
>>
>> On 3/12/07, philippe cavaleri <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > What an excellent idea!!! I'm a photographer and would be intersted 
>> to
>> > work
>> > on the cd cover too (with some other from the list?).
>> > I like it to be free from any rule...
>> > Transcendental number, hum...
>> >
>> > philippe cavaleri
>> >
>> > 2007/3/12, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>> > >
>> > > this project is dedicated to the transcendental number pi and the 
>> day
>> > > set aside to celebrating the constant, March 14
>> > >
>> > > rules:
>> > > using the constant pi, microsound list members will compose a 
>> piece
>> > > utilizing the number/concept in some way
>> > > feel free to interpret this in any way you wish
>> > >
>> > > use pi as the formula for their title and
>> > > the piece must  _be made_  on Pi Day
>> > >
>> > >                        ***deadline: 3/17***
>> > >
>> > > email the list when you have completed a piece
>> > > but DO NOT send the piece to the list
>> > > each piece must be exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length and
>> > > the format should be a stereo mp3 @ 128b/sec
>> > >
>> > > some info on Pi:
>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
>> > > http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > **we'll need some list members to design a web page and provide a 
>> CD
>> > > cover (front and back)
>> > >
>> > > ***see microsound page for some ideas/inspiration:
>> > > http://microsound.org/pi/
>> > >
>> > > ****any takers?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>


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maybe we should talk about it off the list? But maybe not, as it's part of
the whole project? kim?

2007/3/12, gurkan mihci <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>:
>
> i am a designer, i can help about CD design, too...
> you may take the photos, then i may design..
> gurkan
>
> On 3/12/07, philippe cavaleri <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > What an excellent idea!!! I'm a photographer and would be intersted to
> > work
> > on the cd cover too (with some other from the list?).
> > I like it to be free from any rule...
> > Transcendental number, hum...
> >
> > philippe cavaleri
> >
> > 2007/3/12, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> > >
> > > this project is dedicated to the transcendental number pi and the day
> > > set aside to celebrating the constant, March 14
> > >
> > > rules:
> > > using the constant pi, microsound list members will compose a piece
> > > utilizing the number/concept in some way
> > > feel free to interpret this in any way you wish
> > >
> > > use pi as the formula for their title and
> > > the piece must  _be made_  on Pi Day
> > >
> > >                        ***deadline: 3/17***
> > >
> > > email the list when you have completed a piece
> > > but DO NOT send the piece to the list
> > > each piece must be exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length and
> > > the format should be a stereo mp3 @ 128b/sec
> > >
> > > some info on Pi:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
> > > http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery
> > >
> > >
> > > **we'll need some list members to design a web page and provide a CD
> > > cover (front and back)
> > >
> > > ***see microsound page for some ideas/inspiration:
> > > http://microsound.org/pi/
> > >
> > > ****any takers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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i am a designer, i can help about CD design, too...
you may take the photos, then i may design..
gurkan

On 3/12/07, philippe cavaleri <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> What an excellent idea!!! I'm a photographer and would be intersted to
> work
> on the cd cover too (with some other from the list?).
> I like it to be free from any rule...
> Transcendental number, hum...
>
> philippe cavaleri
>
> 2007/3/12, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> >
> > this project is dedicated to the transcendental number pi and the day
> > set aside to celebrating the constant, March 14
> >
> > rules:
> > using the constant pi, microsound list members will compose a piece
> > utilizing the number/concept in some way
> > feel free to interpret this in any way you wish
> >
> > use pi as the formula for their title and
> > the piece must  _be made_  on Pi Day
> >
> >                        ***deadline: 3/17***
> >
> > email the list when you have completed a piece
> > but DO NOT send the piece to the list
> > each piece must be exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length and
> > the format should be a stereo mp3 @ 128b/sec
> >
> > some info on Pi:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
> > http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery
> >
> >
> > **we'll need some list members to design a web page and provide a CD
> > cover (front and back)
> >
> > ***see microsound page for some ideas/inspiration:
> > http://microsound.org/pi/
> >
> > ****any takers?
> >
> >
> >
>
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of course..

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What an excellent idea!!! I'm a photographer and would be intersted to work
on the cd cover too (with some other from the list?).
I like it to be free from any rule...
Transcendental number, hum...

philippe cavaleri

2007/3/12, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
>
> this project is dedicated to the transcendental number pi and the day
> set aside to celebrating the constant, March 14
>
> rules:
> using the constant pi, microsound list members will compose a piece
> utilizing the number/concept in some way
> feel free to interpret this in any way you wish
>
> use pi as the formula for their title and
> the piece must  _be made_  on Pi Day
>
>                        ***deadline: 3/17***
>
> email the list when you have completed a piece
> but DO NOT send the piece to the list
> each piece must be exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length and
> the format should be a stereo mp3 @ 128b/sec
>
> some info on Pi:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
> http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery
>
>
> **we'll need some list members to design a web page and provide a CD
> cover (front and back)
>
> ***see microsound page for some ideas/inspiration:
> http://microsound.org/pi/
>
> ****any takers?
>
>
>
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this project is dedicated to the transcendental number pi and the day  
set aside to celebrating the constant, March 14

rules:
using the constant pi, microsound list members will compose a piece  
utilizing the number/concept in some way
feel free to interpret this in any way you wish

use pi as the formula for their title and
the piece must  _be made_  on Pi Day

                       ***deadline: 3/17***

email the list when you have completed a piece
but DO NOT send the piece to the list
each piece must be exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds in length and
the format should be a stereo mp3 @ 128b/sec

some info on Pi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day
http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery


**we'll need some list members to design a web page and provide a CD  
cover (front and back)

***see microsound page for some ideas/inspiration:
http://microsound.org/pi/

****any takers?


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On 12/03/2007, at 1.43, Ivo Bol wrote:

> I am in China for a few weeks. Anyone knows about interesting  
> places in Guangzhou or Beijing right now?

The 798 district in Beijing should be worth visiting. I can't point  
to specific places from the top of my head. But it would be cool to  
know, if you find anything in particular interesting. Have fun.

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would be nice! count me in.

/björn eriksson


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> yep!
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>> as everyone knows
>> 3/14 is pi day
>> anyone want to participate in a 'Pi Day' 2007 microsound project?
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yep!

> as everyone knows
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Sure!

2007/3/11, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
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Guangzhou ::

http://www.park19.com/19/


Beijing ::

http://www.bdaspace.com/beijing/index.html


China generally ::

http://www.artlog.nl/pages/left/l_links.html
http://www.variant.randomstate.org/15texts/asianalt.html
http://www.unitednet-works.org/events/spacetraffic/spacetraffic.html


---

There is also a large Soviet-styled warehouse that's been converted  
into artist spaces and design studios in Beijing.  I can't remember  
what it's called, but it has a website, and is pretty big and  
impressive.  Its name is a number of some sort.

Have a great time!


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> Thanks,
> Ivo

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Hello,

I am in China for a few weeks. Anyone knows about interesting places  
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Thanks,
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day

On 11-Mar-07, at 8:16 PM, LeE wrote:

> Hi!!!
> I'm new and I'm interested at this Pi day....Give more info... ;-)
>
> Bye!!!
> knob alchemist
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Hi!!!
I'm new and I'm interested at this Pi day....Give more info... ;-)

Bye!!!
knob alchemist



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as everyone knows
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Hello,

I need to contact record labels that publish electronic music of all sorts, 
on CD or CDR formats (or distributors of such music) for the purpose of 
wholesale purchase (with subsequent worldwide retail sales).

Since I am not too familiar with the scene in some types of electronic 
music, it would be very helpful if labels represented here, or 
artists/producers who know of such labels, would respond with website URLs 
and email contact info.

A label profile fact sheet or page would also be helpful.

To secure that your label is properly registered as a supplier and not lost 
in floods of group mails, please reply to xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx

Greetings from Glenn Folkvord
Web & content editor, Planet Origo
Email xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx

Origo Sound music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/origosound
Origo Sound info: http://www.myspace.com/origosound
Origo Sound news: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/origosound


 


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OK, this could be a bunch of bullwhackie,
but it may not. Read the guy's description,
download it (it looks pretty...and basic...and potentially fun)
and let's hear it...eh, hem...from the peanut gallery.
(the comments are enlightening as well):

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24412


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From ctheory.net

" The Spirit of Jean Baudrillard
 In Memoriam: 1929-2007
 ================================


 ~Arthur Kroker~



 Like his intellectual predecessors -- Nietzsche, Artaud, and Bataille
 -- Jean Baudrillard was that rarity of a cultural philosopher, a  thinker
whose reflections, refusing to be simply culturally mimetic,  actually
became a complex sign of the social reality of the  postmodern century.
In his thought there was always something  simultaneously futuristic and
ancient: futuristic because his  theorization of the culture of
simulation ran parallel to the great  scientific discoveries of our time,
specifically the radical  transformation of culture and society under the
impact of the speed  of light-time and light-space; and ancient because
Baudrillard was  haunted by the enigma of pataphysics, namely the magical
ascent of  the reality-principle itself into the language of artifice,
seduction  and terror.

 Not since Nietzsche's _The Gay Science_ has the secret of reality  itself
been so fully exposed. Neither referent nor signifier, social  reality
from Baudrillard's perspective always had about it the hint  of a
"referential illusion," a "fatal strategy," a "mirror of  production," a
"spirit of terrorism," a "desert of the real."
 Refusing the political closures of political economy as much as the 
social strictures of sociology, Baudrillard made of his thought a 
theatre of the medieval artistic practice of anamorphosis. Here, the 
desert of the real would be spun all the more wildly in order to draw 
out in reverse image the trace of its always hidden qualities of 
seduction and terror.

 Neither a skeptic nor an apologist, Baudrillard the theorist, 
Baudrillard the artist,  approached the delirium of contemporary  reality
with the delirious methods of art, with the always  topological language
of perspectival illusion. Which is why  Baudrillard's thought was always
fated to tease out the furies of  Nietzsche's "last man." To read his
thought was to enter directly  into the complexity and indeterminacy of
reality as a game of  anamorphic perspective. While the last man would
always prefer to  take his comforts in the solidity of the
reality-principle,  Baudrillard actually completed Nietzsche by so
clearly demonstrating  in a life of the mind that thought as a "dancing
star" was still  possible, that in his practice of Arendt's "life of the
mind" thought  could once again rise to a greater fealty, namely to make
of the  referential illusion at the disappearing centre of everything --
sex,  consciousness, culture, economy, bodies, terror -- a sure and
certain  sign of the indeterminacy that haunts life itself.

 If we now mourn the death of Jean Baudrillard, it is also with the 
knowledge that his intellectual presence in the world always was in  the
way of an early announcement that the twenty-first century will  surely
unwind precisely in the way he envisioned -- a political  conflagration
of mutually antagonistic, equally fascinating,  reality-principles. When
reality is exposed as simulation, theory as  artifice, the sign as
terror, and bodies as only apparent  perspectives, then we can finally
know that Baudrillard's thought had  about it that certain pataphysical
quality of always descending to  the heights of the void, always, as
Virilio would say, "falling  upwards" into the desert of the real.

 In thought as in life, it is only the slow passage of great  historical
events which permits the spectacle of fiction which is  social reality to
be fully experienced. Our likely fate is to live  out the premises of
Baudrillard's _Seduction_ and _Symbolic Exchange  and Death_ with all
their abiding melancholy and brilliant  fascination less as literature
than as the theoretical storm-centers  of twenty-first century politics,
society, and culture.

 An intellectual friend, a pathway, a theorist who made of thought  itself
a faithful illusion of the sorcery of hyperreality, I mourn  his death on
this sad day by honoring the spirit of Jean Baudrillard."


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JB, R.I.P. I enjoyed reading your writings a lot.

.....but I really wonder what did he have on his mind when he stated that the 
90s suffered from "strike of happenings", in his introduction of "Spirit of 
terrorism"; that the genocides in Ruanda and Bosnia-Hercegovina weren't the 
happenings strong enough to compare with 9/11??? He might've spoken for 
himself.

* * *

And then, a week ago, the International War Crime Court in The Hague 
declared that Serbian state  was found not guilty for the genocide in 
Srebrenica. it turns out that JB was right, that the Srebrenica case belongs 
to 'strike'. but, what if ol' J.B. had the privilege of listening to Scott 
Walker? He provided me with the satisfaction I never had from the 'great 
provocateur'. it is all nicely said on "The Drift", in "Jesse" and "Cossacks 
Are". Less explicit, but more profound.

JB, R.I.P.






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Hi Andras,
I dont know if it would be of any help but I have a free netlabel.
www.d-i-net.org based in Tijuana Mexico.
I guess I could answer questions about our particular proyect.
Let me know if I can help you in any way.
Saludos.

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hi all,

i am thinking about developing an essay on free netlabels', focusing
on their contrast to physical labels and netlabels' future. i'd love
to hear any suggestions of books or articles which would be good
sources in your opinion.
many thanks!

best,
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Well, for starters, it seems to me that almost all DSP based music
production would in fact be the production of pure simulacra as
defined in "Simulation and Simulacra" ...

However, there is one interesting aspect of this, which isn't
completely accounted for in Baudrillard's book. Mostly (if my memory
is correct), the language of the book seems to imply that subjects are
bombarded by simulacra, with little room for response (in an earlier
book Baudrillard mentions grafitti as a possible symbolic response to
advertising).

However, the spread of personal computers means that it's not simply
advertising companies or media professionals who produce simulacra;
all kinds of people all over the globe are able to do it.

So the implications of the (re)production / deconstruction of
simulacra, might be very different, depending on who is doing the
producing, and how and why they are doing so.

~David

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This news hit me particularly hard today. Both because of the role  
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Now that's what I call an "absolute event".


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> jean baudrillard has just passed away.
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> this is truly, the illusion of the end.
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dear friends,


a sad day for all.

jean baudrillard has just passed away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard

this is truly, the illusion of the end.


warmly,

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> i am thinking about developing an essay on free netlabels', focusing
> on their contrast to physical labels and netlabels' future. i'd love
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> sources in your opinion.
> many thanks!

the internet music issue of contemporary music review has some stuff
relevant to this i think:
http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/07494467.html - "net music" not
just as gimmicky networked performances, but as new ways of
disseminating music etc.

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Hi Andras,

How about the "STFU Glasgow - Netaudio in the Real World" netlabel documentary?
http://www.hippocamp.net/releases/hc162.htm

Mark

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goldsmith uses it all the time in his scores...

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>>
>> g.
>>
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Hmm where are the samples of this "Beam" instrument?

--- Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:

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i'll be sure to replace all my barry white albums with jerry  
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that, and attach the 'clapper' to my gas fireplace:)

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hi all,

i am thinking about developing an essay on free netlabels', focusing
on their contrast to physical labels and netlabels' future. i'd love
to hear any suggestions of books or articles which would be good
sources in your opinion.
many thanks!

best,
andrás

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jbrave <> wrote -

> > Isn't part of the problem with this discussion that
> > Jack and other simillar(?) stuff is an easy way to circumvent
> > Apple's DRM protection of iTunes store tunes?

> The need for, and uses of Jack and similar programs goes far beyond a
> teenager or college student trying to rip a copy of his favorite
> song.  That can be done much easier without Jack.

> Throwing a roadblock in the patch of technological progress out of
> fear that someone will use the tech for questionable purposes seems a
> little bit silly, or short sighted to me.

Here is some recommended (by me, heh..) reading on this subject -

|           A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
|           ===================================================
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|                Peter Gutmann, 
|        http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

> The people who are most interested in technology like Jack are pro-
> audio users.

I am one of these...

Billy Youdelman


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February 2007 Playlist

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Bang on a Can All-Stars : Renegade Heaven (Cantaloupe)
Icebreaker : trance (Cantaloupe)
Foetus : damp (Ectopic Ents)
Salvatore : days of rage (Racing Junior)
Root 70 : heaps dub (Non Place)
RM 74 / RLW : pirouetten (Crouton)
Unseen guest : check point (Tuition)
VA. The Fountain (Nonesuch)
Dälek : abandoned language (Ipecac)
The Ambitious Orchestra : come and get it (Built By Icon)
Alexandra Gardner : luminoso (Innova)
Sybarite : cut out shape (Temporary Residence)
VA. Idioscapes (Idiosyncratics)
Rothko : a personal account of conflict (Badhand)
Ulrike Haage : weisses land (Content)
Thilges : la double absence (Staubgold)
Othila : continents (Divine Comedy)
Andrew Coleman : demons (Tripel)
Panda Bear : bro's (FatCat)
Lawrence english : for varying degrees of winter (Baskaru)
Bee & Flower : last sight of land (Tuition)
Häuschka : room to expand (Fat Cat)
Trentemoller : the last resort (Poker Flat)
Kytäjä : hyperborean sound elixir (Bon Voyage)
Nils Wogram & Root 70 : fahrvergnügen (Intuition)
Urawa : parable of the driver (Divine Comedy)
Dosh : the lost take (Anticon)
Chris Watson - BJ Nilsen : storm (Touch)
Rich West : heavenly breakfast (PfMentum)
Get The People : s/t (Ruminance)
Herpes O Deluxe : kielholen (Hinterzimmer)
Mono'Kiri : surviving on dreams and casual sex! (Kinky Star)
Par Lammers Trio : all die bunten schafe (Traumton)
Francisco Lopez : lopez island (Elevator Bath)
David Karsten Daniels : sharp teeth (FatCat)
Bobo : lieder von liebe und tod (Traumton
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Hello,

I'm sorry for the cross posting.

If you are in the NYC area I would like to invite you to the following:

BOOK LAUNCH - A FOLD IN THE FABRIC

We cordially invite you to the launch of A FOLD IN THE FABRIC -  
publication as part of the series of performances,
screenings and exhibition which took place at Monkey Town, and  
LMAKprojects.
Texts by Rebecca Cleman and Sara Reisman.

The launch is this Friday, March 2 from 6-8 pm at LMAKprojects, Chelsea
526 West 26th Street # 310, between 10 and 11 avenue.

Most of the participating artists will be present to sign the catalog.

Participants:

o. blaat
Vincent Grenier
Jill Magid
Richard Garet
Sawako
Andrew Lampert
Sabrina Gschwandtner
Chika Iijima
Kurt Ralske
mlpd (Gill Arno)
Dominique Petitgand
Zach Layton
Mathilde Rosier
Seoungho Cho
Andy Graydon
John Hudak
Willum Geerts.

For more information, contact the gallery at 212 255 9707 or visit  
the website at www.lmakprojects.com

I hope you can make it.

Best Regards,
Richard Garet

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