Re: (idm) Autechre "clones" or not!

From szalemandre
Sent Fri, Mar 5th 1999, 10:24

> >  Their
> >  combination of timing, juxtaposition techniques, a sense of simplicity, and
> >  complex sounds is totally unique, and is what truly set Ae apart.
> 
> basically what you're saying is that they're good musicians. and that is what
> seperates "IDM" from all that other mediochre to complete crap electronic
> music out there... Musicianship. and THAT IM(not so)HO is the one and only
> deciding factor in whether or not electronic music is IDM. Are they real
> musicians? or are they just kids playing with techno toys..

(even though this wasn't a response to my post)

you could use your statements right there to sum up what i was trying to
say earlier.  (that if you're not speaking with your own voice, then shut
the fuck up.)  that's basically it. 

of course there will be people who just puke out what they digest.  but so what?  i don't
have to list to, respect or care about them.  just more crap to wade
through.

and here's a perfect example of someone doing something not-so-new, but
doing it excellently: muziq.  he's secretly wanted to be aphex twin for a
long time, then he went pure dnb.  but i think as far as kinda
straight-ahead dnb goes, his most recent work was probably the best of the
bunch.  (dnb mind you)  it's not so new, not so fresh, but it's
excellently done.  that's all it takes: just be excellent. :)  same goes
for vulva.  their sound wasn't so new, but they did it excellently.  

but when Buck McSmith gets a lot of groovegear for christmas and heard a
couple gescom tracks and says "i can do that!", so what?  he can't do it
as well, so why bother?  

(here's one thing everyone should remember on this list: that everything
everyone says on here is their opinion.  we shouldn't ever have to
actually explicitly state IMHO or anything like that.  it should be
understood.  (including this))

whatever.

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