Re: (idm) Freeform: whats the deal there? (struggling)

From Franz Enmark
Sent Wed, Jan 21st 1998, 08:20

Dear Robert, Dear All,

This is (like all discussions about taste) a fairly worthless discussion. 
I just have to say that unlike 90% of this list I'm not so overly impressed
with Mr. Pykes work either. I don't find it very innovative nor "fresh".
And I believe that I've heard enough electronic music to say that. 
A lot of my friends keep letting me know how brilliant Freeform is, but
I've tried and tried and I just can't get it. And since these are very good
friends with whom I usually agree on most points regarding music (Hi Aaron,
Hi Brap :) it's really strange that Freeform doesn't do it for me. I've
tried the Warp EP (which I sold), the Skam EP (which I gave to a friend)
and the latest Worm Interface which a friend bought. And I still can't get
it. I will probably end up buying the new album (there is one coming out,
no? on Skam?) anyway, I will keep trying, there must be something that I've
missed (like with Beaumont Hannat which I don't find interesting either
although everyone else seem to praise him). That track on the Alt
Frequencies compilation is the only thing that is somewhat appealing to me.
Until then Freeform scores a pretty low point in my book.

At 06:58 1998-01-21 +0100, Robert Merlak wrote:
>I don't know what are you talking about, are you really talking about
>Freeform. Simon makes so jazzy electronica, and he is one of the

I've tried and I just didn't hear any jazzy elements in his stuff, unless
we've made jazz into an attitude instead of a genre of music.
If you want "jazzy electronica" I advise you to pick up either the Argonort
ep on Dot, anything by Funki Porcini or GFQ or the latest As One album on
Mo Wax. For example. Now THERE'S Jazzy. All good.

>finest new school electronica artists. It's hard to people to accept new
>freshhhh music, but I didn't expecti it here on IDM

Well. Expect it (not that has anything to do with THIS particular
discussion). 
Anyway: This is somewhat of an insult, just because someone doesn't like
Freeform (who in my ears isn't innovative at all) doesn't mean that he/she
is a conservative, passive music listener. I've heard a lot of music
through the years, both innovative (this isn't an universally appliciable
thing but there are some artists or groups that we probably can agree on
being innovative and groundbreaking, the Black Dog and Kraftwerk being two
of em) and not, and I would most certainly put Freeform in the latter
category. Sorry folks. It might be good music but you have to make it into
separate things. I like Bola and Cylob (for example) but I wouldn't call it
innovative just because of that. Innnovative and joyful listening are two
different things. A lot of people on this list and elsewhere should realize
that.

>You, like Shane obviously didn't hear much of his stuff. I hope so....

Well. I've heard about half of his stuff (if you're interested in a
discography, there's one on my page by Aaron S. Gregory...[shameless
self-promotion, sorry] http://gargamel.com/frankie) so you've got nothing
on me there Robbie.

Switch on, switch off,

Fe.


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