Re: (313) Re:newKraftwerkVSold/Atkins' opinion

From Giles Dickerson
Sent Wed, Feb 24th 1999, 21:02

One of the most important points about kraftwerk that seems to always be
missed is the in point through which they came to compose elctrnic music and
electronic rhythm sequences.

The way most artists become involved in making electronic music is they like
it, or dj it, and buy some gear, and then begin making music that the gear
allows them to make, and most of their creations, unless particularly
inventive, fall within the guidelines of what this gera will do. For
example, if you pick up a 909, the interface and the gear itself will
somewhat guide you to a particular sound and rhythmic structure.

Now with kraftwerk, and this is what so many people fail to appreciate,
these guys decided on the music they wanted to make and then built equipment
like sequencers and drum machines to fill in the gaps that technology at
that time was missing. This is huge, because what this means is that they
had an idea of this music before they were entirely guided by the
technology, they were actually guiding the technology to meet their view of
the music they wished to compose.

This is an important concept, because it seems to me, especially with
artists such as "pole" for example, who is a lathe and studio engineer gone
musician, that the people involved in developing new musical technology,
might be the ones who move the music ahead, mainle because they are the ones
creating the tools that so many of the artists to day use.

This is the role kraftwerk played, and to me, this direction they took was
huge. It wasn't as if they stumbled on their music after fooling around with
a synth that failed in the popular market and ended up laying down electro
tracks.

g i l e s   d i c k e r s o n
D I C K E R S O N  /  B O S T O N
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<jeff mills>it feels like a mission actually, more so than a job</jeff
mills>
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Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 3:58 PM
Subject: (313) Re:newKraftwerkVSold/Atkins' opinion


>I'm with Will.  No one can deny the importance and quality of Kraftwerk's
>recorded material. And yes, electronic music since them owes them a huge
debt.
>But even
>Juan Atkins says they're a little bit behind the times re: their *new*
music
>performed lately (though he was extremely happy they toured and that those
>who knew them from their recordings could hear them live, while those who
>missed out on Kraftwerk (i.e don't know their electronic music history)
could
>experience them and get some education to the past.  You can check out
Atkins'
>comments and opinions on Kraftwerk and plenty of other stuff in the
interview
>with him on In The Mix show 578 on http://www.globalserve.net/~cognition
>Thanks. Andrew :)
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>C Twomey wrote:
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>> Hey, let's not denigrate Ralf & Florian, who set the ground work for all
>> the music you like when Kirk Degiorgio could only reach the white keys of
>> his Rhodes. I'd refer you to any of the boots of the latest Kraftwerk
tours
>> - The Return Of The Man-Machine is an excellent one - to re-experience
the
>> subtle new tunes (and the extension of "Airwaves"), which in the
Kraftwerk
>> style mix accessible and avant garde elements (the computer-y sequence in
>> the 2nd one, which is as poly-rhythmic as any underground tech-house
>> stuff). The vocoder melody in the breakdown of 1st new one in the set
(the
>> Latin-y one between "Radioactivity" and "Trans Europe") has a particular
>> strange beauty, like the best of the European avant garde (old school
that
>> is).
>>
>> CT
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>> >From: Will Samuels <x_xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>> >The new material they played live last summer wasn't that great. It
>> >sounded a little like dated Juno Reactor type of stuff. And it lacked
>> >the charm of their earlier releases.
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