From Lester Barnes Sent Mon, May 8th 2006, 21:56
I've had my A-Sys modular since 1998 and now have 110 modules ( just=20 over 2 x 8500 ) and to date I've not had a single problem with jacks ( tho I've always used the=20 A-Sys leads and never over stretch nor yank them out when un-patching ) This system also includes a rack of Doepfer with their Vocoder rig=20 which has been regularly patched up changed with no problems. Got love the Euro rack gear ! Lester On Monday, May 8, 2006, at 08:56 PM, Terje Winther wrote: >> Someone told me Doepfers were pretty bad as far as build quality and=20= >> that the mini jacks would wear after 100 uses or so. > > Doepfer (and Analogue Systems; they use similar minijacks) used the=20 > standard version early on, but upgraded to better minijacks once=20 > reports of errors came in. Now they use much better minijacks, but=20 > rumours from the early days still lingers. > > The complete story directly from Bob @ Analogue Systems: > > To give you a brief history of mini jack problems this is what we have > encountered. > > We first started using a cliff socket part number CL13845 which is a=20= > 5.5 > version of the CL13844 5.0 that Dieter used in his system. If our=20 > patch cord > were used there was minimum problems but some users were buying in or=20= > making > their own cables with heavy metal jack plugs which put a strain on the > sockets causing the intermittent problems which the A100 was having=20 > issues > with. > I contacted the socket manufacturer Cliff and informed them that we=20 > were > experiencing a small but nevertheless, important to our users, contact > problem. > Cliff sent their senior engineer down to our workshop and he=20 > identified the > problem from their manufacturing side and came up with a new socket=20 > for us > (still pcb mounted which is what we wanted) and with this and custom > designed patchcords to fit exactly we have had no problems that we are=20= > aware > of. > There is a British band which you may or may not know about called=20 > Radiohead > who tour with 3 x 8000 and an 8500 system plus numerous Apprentice and > Sorceror systems.The only time they have had problems was by their own > admittance when they bought in different patch cords which were like=20= > fishing > weights and that obviously was to much ,but when we recommended our = new > length patch cords they have had no problems during 2 world tours.I=20 > believe > your own U.S.A band Nine Inch Nails are about to tour with our gear=20 > live as > well as Sigur Ros from Iceland. > We informed Dieter of the new socket to be fair to him and not take an > obvious advantage so the A100 should be clear of any problems as well=20= > as > long as the correct patch cords are used. > If you're going to Namm in a few weeks time come to the Big City Music=20= > booth > and try for your self. > I have never heard of low level noise problems on forums or from > customers,without naming names we have had high praise from top U.K=20 > London > based producers, on how quiet are systems are, quietness is also=20 > =CAmentioned > in the review for the system 1 from what I remember. > If the forum that has this is on a competitors website and it is over = 3 > years old then it is there as a negative swipe at Doepfer and by=20 > default > ours. > I do not think Dieter would ever condone such negative posts on his=20 > Yahoo > Group just as we would not. > I have seen and played for a very short time a large Synthesizer.com=20= > system > in Belgium last month and I was very impressed.I think which ever one=20= > you > choose you will not be disappointed. > You may post this response if you wish which hopefully will allay the=20= > fears > of any potential Analogue Systems/Doepfer customers. > If you ring Roger at Big City Music in L.A he will give you a frank=20 > overview > on all modulars as he has vintage and modern and has sold very good=20 > amounts > of our systems and modules to satisfied U.S customers. > The only time you usually find any bad press for most manufacturers is=20= > when > modules are swapped around without any thought to power supply issues=20= > and > any modifications. > We have a system here which has been stock from day one and it has=20 > never > failed and it a very big!! > > Best Wishes > Bob Williams > > > > > > >