Re: (idm) Re: classicalpopidm

From solenoid
Sent Fri, Feb 12th 1999, 21:33

Let's not forget the Mike Dred & Peter Green album that just came out that
has elements of programmed orchestral music (at least one whole track as
well) and the old Machine Codes EP that has a dark orchestral programmed
b-side.  Also, as I mentioned before, the Orbital "Event Horizon"
soundtrack had a good combination of orchestral and electronic
composition.  Any good/interesting multitimbral melodical combination
stands a good chance of sounding interestingwhen played by an orchestra or
acoustic instruments.  It is all just composition.  Those are examples
that I think bring a logic to the comment about idm and classical.  

Also, Ryuichi Sakamoto conducted the Tokyo Symphony on "Playng th
Orchestra", on which many of his older 100% electronic peices translated
well.  This is around the time he started composing for orchestra for "The
Last Emperor".  I suspect the reciprocal: the older composers , if alive
today, would probably use midi and modules to at least work on their
compositions, if not use the electronic sounds themselves.  Easier than
sitting at home trying to piece it all together on a single piano or
violin (depending on the composer's main instrument of proficiency)

Consider Conlan Nancarrow, a composer linked off this CLASSICAL page:

http://www.mindspring.com/~rafflesia/musiclinks/classical.html

...whose music is multi-tempo, intricately arranged programming of
player-piano rolls, clearly a precursor to midi, as many midi computer
sequencers use the player piano roll as the basis of their layout and
display of note lengths (esp Cubase "key" mode).

Anyone stuck on classical music for all of the elitist stigma, well, all I
can say is: there are many people who see IDM itself as snobby avant-garde
wankery, so you you might as well get used to enjoying good music and
ignoring the stigmas...

Maybe one good place to start, esp if you are coming from dance music in
general, is the classical stuff that was inspired by folk dance music
(heck, isn't techno just 90's 1st world folk dance music?).
"Bolero" or the works of Bela Bartok maybe...

Solenoid

np: Cylob's "Rewind" into PDF Crew (West Coast)

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote:

> Many jazz and especially classical pieces have melodies that stick in my head
> for weeks, so that shoots your little theory in the ass a little.
> 
> -allen 
>