From NukeNoodls Sent Thu, Jun 11th 1998, 13:32
From NukeNoodls Sent Thu, Jun 11th 1998, 13:32
sorry for the intrusion on this list, but i feel it necessary to present my point of view in this matter. i am the person who bought the acetate. i welcome any personal mail on this matter from anybody who may have something to help my case, as it appears mark and i are going to litigate over this. i would appreciate it if somebody could email me all the IDM digests that contained posts related to the orb acetate thread, or any digests from around the time the acetate was offered for auction in mid april. i can't seem to find the digest archive if it exists. thank you. chris (xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx) mark wrote: > as for the orb acetate thread; a really big fuck you to all those who poked > their noses in where they weren't wanted. a really big thanks to all those who, > both privately & publicly, have supported me. > the acetate has only 1 [yes, only 1] orb/u2 remix on it. the other side is the > bandulu remix of assassin. [so now all of you can email everyone you know ;) ] i was not informed about this truth prior to purchasing the acetate, nor has mark admitted it to me personally after the sale. i'm reading it here for the first time. i was lead to believe i was buying an acetate containing 2 remixes of U2's Numb done by alex patterson. the above admission proves what i have already learned to be true. in light of this, mark should back up his claim of being reputable and refund my cash. > the acetate was prepared by alex patterson to dj with. the dat, as far as i > know, has been destroyed. in retrospect, the said item was slightly > misrepresented when advertised; although this was not intention! it was an > error. i discovered this recently. [btw - acetates are usually only one- sided] i say that it is more than a slight misrepresentation. intentional or not, it doesn't change the fact that i didn't get what i bid for and paid to receive. period. i don't understand how this could happen as mark appears to be knowledgeable about the orb's music. should i be required to keep it because he made an "error"? > the guy still has 1 of 2 acetates with the orb's remix of u2's track; something > totally unique that no other u2 or orb fan has, or will ever have. there probably are 2 numb remixes in existance, since the version on this acetate says mix 2. but again, i was supposed to get 2 numb mixes on this acetate. > i believe 1 minor problem is that he only got 1 remix instead of 2; major problem. i got half of what i paid for. > although i'm > also convinced the REAL reason is that he doesn't like the remix. that's his opinion, and it's false. i have never stated that i didn't like the mix. i did say "i think anybody who knows u2's music and heard this would be hard pressed to believe this is a u2 song in any form". i can live with the fact that it doesn't sound like the u2 song at all, but i can't accept that mark sold me this acetate as being 2 numb remixes and receiving 1 numb remix and one orb remix. in addition, he claimed the condition of the disc was "perfect mint condition". it's not, but i didn't honestly think it would be. close to mint would have been nice though. originally he stated he got the acetate from alex, and when i asked for a refund i was then informed that he was selling the acetate on a friends behalf. one of these statements is apparently a lie. at first he said he would organise a refund, then he renigged the next day stating i received what i paid for. >@ least his > taste is in line with that of u2! > if the acetate did have another remix on it, he probably still wouldn't like, > thus; i'd be in the same situation :) again, his opinion, however it's also false!! we wouldn't be in this situation if he had not misrepresented this acetate. had i received what he claimed to be selling, i would have little or nothing to complain about. i had trouble believing they were both mixes of numb when i played it, and he reassured me they were. i investigated further on my own and i found out that one of them wasn't. my problem is with not receiving what he advertised and i paid for. > oh, for the joys of selling records on the > net! catch fuckin 22. as an experienced dealer/collector myself, i would certainly do something to rectify the situation if i was mark. i've never had the misfortune of being in a situation like this with one of my customers, but i would gladly refund a dissatisfied customer for any reason to avoid bad publicity. you are only as good as your reputation, and if you aren't reputable you shouldn't be in this or any other business. > i may well see this through a court. it will be really > interesting to see what happens!