[AH] AS dual vco and ice cream...

From legion
Sent Tue, May 4th 2004, 18:56

>  If I understand you correctly then, the VCOs do not accept sync from outside sources, but only one from the other?  That is kind of a bummer if I understand this correctly.  I was hoping to slave each VCO to the system100 vcos.

Well each VCO has one individual pitch CV in so you can run them from the System 100 that way if you want. It's true the sync in internal as is the cross modulation.

> Peter Grenader <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The thing that pesters me about Analogue Solutions modules is the lack of processing of control voltages.

Well I think AS, Concussor, and Doepfer in general do a price point very well and the trade off is not as much CV and other goodies attached.

> For guys like me you were raised on Serge and Buchla, these features are limiting however.

Well to be fair to all concerned AS (or Doepfer, etc) aren't trying to be a Serge or Buchla and they beat the pants off those in price by a factor of  5x to 50x cheaper. For some that's more important than having more cv control. I think outside of being
analog and shooting out  VCO waves in some way  the two really aren't compatible at ALL.

I see the Concussor, AS, and Doepfer lines as similar in price point and each with a slightly different flavor. To use an ice cream analogy they're all Vanilla but one has chocolate chips and the other has walnuts.  Now Serge or Wiard or whatever are more
rich, fluffy french pastries than basic ice cream. Blacet is in-between like a fancy chocolate. MOTM and Synthtech are Vanilla bean and more robust tasting. The good thing is if you eat too much of any of them you'll get sick :)

> Despite the audio samples, most of which are chaotic and way too similar to one another and give any idea of the range of sound this VCO is capable of producing, the unit sounds fine.

I got a Concussor Dual VCO mostly for processing reasons a few years ago (along with the SY01, and some drum modules).  The important thing for me is not to look at it as two different VCOs or even as something as flexible as a single Doepfer A110 or
something. As has been mentioned there is only one waveform at a time (and even those are limited), not a lot of cv and no trim controls etc. If you need some basic VCOs to beef up your system I wouldn't suggest the Dual VCO.

On the other hand in such a small module is a LOT of powerful sound. With the manual cross modulation it lends itself very nicely to harsh or experimental sounds. Atonal buzz and stuff. To me it has a lot of personality and sounds different than the other
entry level VCOs. I'd say it's a nice addition to a system but wouldn't really want it as my sole VCO for more melodic or basic patches.

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