From James Elliott Sent Wed, Jan 23rd 2008, 05:18
From James Elliott Sent Wed, Jan 23rd 2008, 05:18
meh..... may as well wait for nova to get theirs in :( Hopefully it won't be too long...... ----- Original Message ---- From: Shagghie <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: James Elliott <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Cc: Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>; xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:47:27 PM Subject: Re: [AH] 888 :: was WTB: Roland TR-808 Hi Jim! Roger from Big City Music hooked me and VJ up with Serial #'s 2 and 3. He might have one or two left. SN#4 i know went on Monday... He should be getting more in soon. HTH! I'm waiting impatiently for the T-resonators to arrive too! s On Jan 22, 2008 6:34 PM, James Elliott <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Alright, Shag... how did you manage to score one of those crunk > thumpers????? > > Nova told me they haven't even received them yet! Do you have any idea > when they'll be unleashed upon the masses????? > > SPILL IT! > > :) > > -Jim > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Shagghie <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Cc: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:33:09 PM > Subject: Re: [AH] WTB: Roland TR-808 > > > Hi Tomislav! How's that 2ube pre pedal treating you these days? What > tubes > did you settle on? > > Great questions below, and understandable! > > I hesitate sending this link out, as I had JUST gotten back from NAMM, > it > was 2am, and it's a camera mic. > Oh, and there's the flying pig thing too, but... alas... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzeQoaWkVNw > > We did a 4 hour jam last night with the 888, 2 revo's, and one 777. It > was > best jam ever, and that was the 888 out of the box. > I'll post that audio clip, which was multitracked into Logic 8 and > sync'd > with Logic as master clock. (don't ask) to megaupload or something in a > few > days. I'll even let it go out unmixed, unmastered, zero compression, > etc... > b/c you have to hear the 888 in person to appreciate the sound of it. > it's > at 44.1/16...but I have to wait until tomorrow night back in studio to > render it to .mp3 at 320kbs. I won't be able to do the full 4 hours, > but we > should get a decent chuck of pure 888 at that point with 100mb limit on > filesize. Will that suffice? > > For some of your questions...here's my thoughts: Were I in a position > to > own both 888 and 999, I would own both for certain. But I'm not. > They are two different boxes to be sure. Same construction, but way > different vibe and sound at the end of the day. I am a hacker first, > musician second..., as far as skillsets go. What I know about systems > is > that complexity is harder to manage and exponentially increases chances > for > bugs/failure, etc. While the 999's filter section is mad-powerful, and > sounds great.. it was a layer of complexity that I didn't end up using > in > the studio, as I use other gear for my filter duties running off of > sends on > a mixer. Or ITB stuff from logic 8. > So I looked at risk/reward, bang/buck ratios and found myself leaning > towards the concept of an 888. Plus, I'm smitten for 808 sound..it's by > far > my favorite drum machine of all ancient time. In fact, I stumbled the > news > of the 888 while googling for an 808 to buy... > > So, there have been bugs, just like any other boutique synth/drum > machine > manfacture forum. The Yahoo group, particularly for Jomox, IS the > manufacture's forum for bug reporting, and there are several > personalities > that routinely report bugs or feature requests or design decision > opinions, > etc. on the forum. It is very active, and stuff gets done as time goes > on. > In short, it's great. The 999's OS, fwiw, at 1.3, is finally in a > state > where I would feel good about performing live with the box without fear > of > any show stopping bugs, etc. The sample uploads are smooth, easy and > rockin' > with a killer little GUI ap that lets you easily manage the sound > banks. > Very bauhaus.. to the point. > > I'm a big fan of both JoMoX and Elektron gear, so my input is > biased...but > I'm only a fan after going through that long and winding road we much > each > take as individuals and musicians. I want what sounds best, and works. > The > fact that we did a four hour acid jam, with rock solid timing the whole > time, with mad beats and glitch free operation of the 888, well... it > sounded best, and it worked. > > I've not done a side by side with an 808. But it's almost irrelevant > to do > so... he's not billing it as a clone, and it doesn't use 808 parts, > etc. > But for the same reason that comparing a FR-777 to a 303 ends up always > being a pointless discussion, so too would a comparison of the 808 and > 888. > Neither is purporting to be it's original. But both go far beyond their > originals, while still doing superb jobs at 'preserving' some of what > is the > 'essence' of the original. But each is it's own instrument, with it's > own > sequencer, interface, and feel. > > I only digress, b/c I don't want this thread to turn into a 808 vs 888 > thread. I DO however, want to encourage anyone with a limited budget > (all > of us) to hear an 888 before deciding to buy an 808 (and vice versa, no > doubt). They are close enough to warrant this, and they are far apart > enough to force you to choose a route based on YOUR music, your ears > and the > degree to which either of them gives you a bone chromer. > > For my part... and that of our label, we've made the executive decision > to > go with the 8's, and so we had to sell the 9's for now. The 888 can > also do > decent 909 kicks, with the right amount of noise dialed in. > > if you are a sucker for 808 kicks, and bouncing metal high hats that > dance > around your head like pixie dust... then the 888 cannot be topped here > on > earth... I'll say that with as much conviction as can be conveyed on a > mailing list. And that's after just two nights with it. > > I'll post the jam in the next few days... if that doesn't display the > 888 > properly, nothing would. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 10:56 AM, Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > so.. im confused now, Shag... i was reading your recent praise of 999 > with > > much > > interest as it seems to get mixed reviews, due to bugs etc.. and > thought > > 999 was > > your be-all, end-all drum machine. your posts kinda renewed my > interest in > > it.. > > > > and now.. your full of praise for 888.. which is 999 wihtout a > filter.. > > hmmm,,,, > > > > could you clarify pls.. what they are good/best for, respectively.. > > > > and whats with them bugs reports .. that jomox yahoo group is full > of.. > > > > > > fwiw, i still havent heard a mp3 of 999/888 that thumps anyware near > > 808/909.. > > u got some? or an URL of someone doing a decent representations..? > > > > thanks > > > > best regards > > Tom > > -- > > --- > > Tomislav Babic > > www.babic.com - studio, mp3, info > > xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! 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