From Sham Beam Sent Wed, Sep 2nd 2015, 23:50
alright, i have to put on horsey noises now. On 9/3/2015 9:08 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: > heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write > terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares! > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in > music. Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to > explore and going all the way in without worrying about how it's > going to be received or how well it fits standard formats. An > example is the way Riccardo Villalobos makes 20 minute tracks. > They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike anything else. > > Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you > aren't a good singer and you write terrible lyrics. I can't think > of an IDM example, and even then that's subjective. > > It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone > else will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence > if you follow your muse, and the result sucks. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being > self-indulgent a bad thing? > also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO > like are NOT self indulgent? > (name some i bet they all are) > > anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like > him more > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange > <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is > Rotted..' did had some low points ("self indulgent" though I > guess he's an artist with the right to make what he wants > and I can opt not to buy... or just listen to individual > tracks). > > Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as > he was... even for the stuff that was more classified as pop. > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson > <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > go back > tom > do it again > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff > <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex > toy then? one should not try to fit a square peg in > a round hole! > > On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson" > <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > the steely dan of techno > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > I also like that the kind of stuff by > Squarepusher I like (like "Music Is Rotted > One Note") is cited as something someone > else on the list hates. "Squarpusher. Never > could get into his stuff, especially the > self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic > stuff." Thanks Mark! > > We do also need to start a soundcloud free > account in the name "SQUARPUSHER" and start > posting wierd shit. > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint > Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > this is funny because in theory doesnt > squarepusher .. 'push' a lot of albums? > i mean i get the impression that > second to afx he is one of warp's bigger > electronic acts but yet every other > person i talk to HATES his music, not > just dislikes but people say stuff just > like what you guys are sort of saying, > like that his style is actually > offensively 'self indulgent' to people heh > i guess i kind of see this but at the > same time it really doesnt affect me > listening to the music or maybe i even > enjoy that aspect of it...i loved big > loada, hard normal daddy, damogen > furies, i thought ufabulum was eh, but > then he came out with the kcrw sessions > which basically 'fixed' the issues i had > with ufabulum... > i dunno my one best friend says > vehemently "there is NOTHING original or > interesting about ANYTHING he's done" > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark > Schieldrop <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx > <mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx>> wrote: > > Squarpusher. Never could get into > his stuff, especially the > self-indulgent and extremely boring > acoustic stuff. ____ > > __ __ > > And obligatory: Moby. Though, heâs > arguably not IDM.____ > > __ __ > > *From:*Laurent Knauth > [mailto:xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2015 > 3:39 AM > *To:* Faraz Masroor > *Cc:* Idm List > *Subject:* Re: IDM you don't like____ > > __ __ > > Problem with this topic is that the > list is endless...____ > > Hell is the limit !____ > > __ __ > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM, > Faraz Masroor > <xxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> > wrote:____ > > We have a lot of discussion here > about history of IDM, podcasts, new > releases were interested in, etc. > Basically stuff we like, but how > about a thread for stuff you don't > like?____ > > __ __ > > I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin > very interesting because his new > songs are unfocused and too similar > to each other, kinda boring. I > haven't listened to SAW yet but I > imagine I'll like it better. ____ > > __ __ > > Faraz____ > > __ __ > > > > > > > -- Sham Beam