From Drew Neumann Sent Fri, Jan 18th 2008, 17:04
From Drew Neumann Sent Fri, Jan 18th 2008, 17:04
Best to hold off on moaning and speculating until you have a chance to play with these things... though Moog IS watching this list and listening to your input. The pedal is a lot more flexible than that. There is MIDI in and out, and all 3 (Midi, USB and CV) can be used at the same time. Furthermore, you can set up templates to record your footpedal moves into your DAW as CC's and play back those moves via midi in to all channels (CV and so on). The LFOs seem nice and smooth and you can do quite a lot with them. I could see this thing as a very nice add on to a modular system--but it can be used to control plug ins too--AT THE SAME TIME!!! (YAY!) Imagine stacking your V'ger or Phatty with Moog Modular V and having them controlled from the same source. Or set the pedal up to control filter sweeps on your Doepfer/Blacet/whatever and 2600V. Lots of possibilities. The Old School supports the breakout box of the V'ger and all of the usual I/O patch points on the back, so it's not really that badly limited. It certainly does a lot more than a vintage Model D. For those who want a cheaper version, there are things like the Spectral Neptune, but it is nowhere near the physical/sonic quality and durability of the Moog. They build gear for the long term. On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:47 AM, Eduardo Saponara wrote: > > It looks good to me in a lot of respects, but it still seems > bottlenecked in the modulation department. 4 mod routings seems like > the minimum to me. Multiple destinations for one source without > chewing up the other Bus should be possible, even if it's just a > switch like on the memory moog or Prophet 5, but varying amounts would > be better. > > Sure it's more than the mini or whatever, but in this day and age, > someone should put some brainpower behind sick modulation and > interface. > > It seems like moog is somewhat painting themselves into a corner, not > sure what they can do to really blast off with the pricepoints they go > for. > > I suspect the CV pedal's LFO's are for the four CV outputs, and don't > have separate CV outs apart from the midi/USB to CV. > > I also suspect the USB to CV is still midi and not direct computer > control of CV which makes sense given the way they play their > position, but computer control of CV may require a lot more effort > than they have the resources to allocate to it. > > I know I know, bitch bitch moan moan, but that's how LP owners got the > second menu modulation, it's called feedback ;) > >> From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: >> Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:29:56 -0500> Subject: Re: [AH] Any news of the >> Voyager old-school?> > Christopher Winkels writes:> >>$2,595 in >> current money is roughly equivalent to $475 in 1970 dollars.> Talk >> about good value when compared with the ~$1,400 list price of the> >> original Minimoog back in 1970.<<> > Comparing prices today to those >> of decades ago is rather meaningless.> Synths have come down in price >> over the decades. You need to compare with> what's out there now, >> including the other Moog models. And this one isn't> priced as >> significantly less than the Voyager as one would think. If you> think >> back when the Voyager was being designed, it originally wasn't going> >> to have patch memory or an XY pad. Each of those two things added >> $500 each> to push the Voyager price up another $1000. So shouldn't >> taking those two> things away (including Midi also I guess) bring the >> price back down $1000+> off the Voyager price?> > And the talk about >> modulation flexibility as if it's more than the Voyager.> I don't see >> that by looking at the controls. Looks like less.> > I think I'm >> going to wait for this one:> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QHQ0nFIUYY> > -Elhardt> > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html? > ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008