From dj hohum Sent Wed, Jun 20th 2007, 02:21
From dj hohum Sent Wed, Jun 20th 2007, 02:21
Well, one thing that you have to consider is that you will be losing a polyphonic analog filter. It is not exactly the same thing to feed all voices through one filter as it is to feed each voice through a separate filter. It will be particularly noticeable if you are using any per voice modulation on the filter such as envelopes. On 6/19/07, Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > On 6/20/07, ... snafu ... <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> wrote: > > > > > > thanx so far :-) > > thing is: > > > > i am thinking of letting go all my "blues": > > > > emulator2 > > SP12 > > > > but i know i will miss the filters... > > that is my reason for asking you guys... > > > > what would you suggest? > > > emax rack ? > > its very close to eii sound, i beleive it can do sp12 to an extent but wi= th > more flexibility of a full featured smapler/snyth (iei control over filte= r > env, reso etc). same filters and vca. (btw i find 2044 sounds better, an= d > 2040 even much moreso) > > emax cost peanuts, can have scsi disk etc.. and takes no room. > > i got one SE edition w scsi zip, and i compared to frined's EII. nothing > earth shuttering different. i have SP-12 here now, also on loan, > but hadn't the time to do a detailed side by side yet. SP-12 sure punches= to > no end. EMAX may have a slightly smlr low end, but > im speculating right now... gotta check this as i love SP-12. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "dj hohum" <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > To: "Matthew Davidson" <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > Cc: "Analogue Heaven" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [AH] Frostwave SSM ??? > > > > > > While the debate for the most glorious filter rages on, it's pretty > > well accepted that the 2040 and the 2044 do NOT sound the same. > > > > The original emulator used the 2044, the emulator II used the 2045. As > > has already been pointed out, the Deopfer 105 is a 2044 in a module. > > The 2045 is a VCF/VCA combo chip similar to the CEM 3372. It might be > > the 2044 + 2 vcas, or, something else, perhaps Paul S. knows the > > details of the internals. > > > > I'm also fairly sure that the MOTM is a discrete design and does not > > use the 2040 VCF. I believe J=FCrgen Haible has a discrete clone desig= n > > on his website and you can also see another design based on this on > > Rene Schmitz's site. > > > > http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs159/rs2040.png > > > > If you want a REAL 2040 filter then you can get one if you find the > > right octave cat. Since it has an external filter input and, I > > believe, CV input for the filter, you can use it fairly easily. > > > > So, in summary, 2044, easy and cheap to get. Real 2040, expensive and > > hard to get, clone 2040, expensive and easy to get. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > On 6/19/07, Matthew Davidson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:58 PM, ... snafu ... wrote: > > > > > > > is there a box out there, that recaptures the sound of the SSM > > > > filters like they were built in to the emulator2 and others? > > > > > > Doepfer A-105 > > > http://www.doepfer.de/a105.htm > > > > > > > > > > -- > --- > Tomislav Babic > www.babic.com - studio, mp3, info > xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx >