From Robert Hoffman Sent Wed, Nov 19th 1997, 18:45
From Robert Hoffman Sent Wed, Nov 19th 1997, 18:45
xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > << agree with Mr Carrot, I've never heard such a lot of paranoid nonesense. > If you had looked at the Vemia auction which closed on Saturday you would > have seen a Moog 15 for less than £2,000, two Bode Frequency Shifters, one > for £900 and the other £1,300 and an ultra rare PPG modular sold for > £1,780. This is true, but how much of the auction was bid so far out of proportion that it was absurd ? I watched two pieces that I wanted get bid to twice the going market rate and one piece (of which there were actually 3), the Synton Syrinx, went upwards of £1500. Over $2600 for a friggin monosynth !!!!!!! > > Many of these failed to reach their reserve I'm sure. So where were the big > bad dealers taking advantage of these rich pickings? > Serious dealers aren't going to bother buying module by module unless they are so pathetically cheap and readily available that they could build a whole system to sell for big $$$$. > > Soon afterwards another similar instrument was offered on AH for less > and I was also contacted by the dealer offering me more modules (the same > as the AH set I'm sure). > And you're not pissed ? > This to me doesn't square with your portrayal of greedy > dealers swiping all the best gear and instantly selling it on to rock stars > at vast profit. > I always get a kick out of this statement. What stars do you think are buying this shit ? Most of the big guys have one or two modular things that they've owned since the beginning of time. Even Hans bought the 100m, Moog stuff, and Polyfusion (which I think was later sold) and then a Doepfer. To my knowledge he does not scrounge the world looking to buy every cool piece of gear that comes up. Most of these guys are using samplers, huh, god forbid, those bastards, and only a couple analog things. Case after case, the "star" musicians who can afford this stuff are not buying it. When they do it's a Serge or Doepfer. So who are the dealers selling to ? Rental Companies ? Collectors ? Not musicians. And that my friends pisses me off !!! Prices are rising for no good reason. > Why do some of you begrudge business men anyway. I can't afford a Synthi > 100 or a Moog IIIp so why should I be upset if a dealer finds one and sells > it to Hans Zimmer for a profit. > my point is that many of these dealers have bought things at ridiculously low > prices which many listmembers WOULD HAVE been able to afford. i know this is > true for large moog systems and i wouldnt doubt it to be true for synthi100s. > its only after their crazy markups that these deals have become unaffordable > for everyone. i understand what business is all about and i can almost > sympathize with dealers but the fact that i am looking for the same equipment > makes this a sensitive issue for me. friends who are also looking for this > equipment feel the same way. My point exactly. Rob