Re: [AH] Roland SPV-355

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Mon, Oct 1st 2018, 04:41

Buchla Thunder.

I=E2=80=99ve dreamed about one of those ever since I saw Mark Isham =
perform live in a church (in North Carolina, I think - I was in the =
process of moving to Seattle at the time) while using the Thunder to =
control electronic effects parameters in real time for processing his =
trumpet.

Of course, it=E2=80=99s a Buchla, so prices are already high. But I also =
realized that arguing about price after ten years of waiting would be =
foolish, with so few of these things in existence (not counting the =
modern modular edition that=E2=80=99s rather cramped for space in =
comparison).

Brian


On Sep 30, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Edward Schultheis <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
> What was the midi device?
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> On Sep 30, 2018, at 9:32 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Tomislav Babic =
<xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:17 AM David Bivins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
>>> In my experience, a lot of gear sells for considerably less due to =
offers being made under the asking price.
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>> i see vintage stuff is grossly overpriced.   waiting for the right =
impatient sucker=20
>> with more money than brains.
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>> also, i see lot of sellers asking twice or more the going prices. =
probably trying to artificially=20
>> raise the perceived "asking price" to the uninitiated,  only to later =
offer another unit under=20
>> another monikker, for slightly less. and then if you are naive, you =
feel lucky you got it=20
>> "cheaper" and snag it..
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>> same goes as on ebay.
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> It=E2=80=99s called =E2=80=9Cclearing the market.=E2=80=9D Basic =
Economics 101. No buyer offers more than the asking price, so the =
initial asking price may need to be ridiculously high to find out what a =
buyer is willing to spend. Smart buyers will either skip the auction =
entirely, or make an offer. Smart sellers will adjust the price down =
when the auction fails to succeed, and they have to eat any costs of =
listing the item (not all listings are free if the item doesn=E2=80=99t =
sell). So it=E2=80=99s not like sellers can waste a bunch of time trying =
over and over to sell an item above what people are willing to pay, =
because their profits will eventually be lost to listing fees.
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> I wish eBay were more active with legitimate sales, because the =
history of prices in the Completed Auctions search results tells a lot =
more about the actual market price than the asking prices of active =
auctions (which may never complete at the asking price). Smart buyers =
will look at how often a particular item becomes available, and what =
prices it sells for. I=E2=80=99ve waited ten years for a specific MIDI =
device to even be available, and I had to accept the asking price =
because there really wouldn=E2=80=99t be a second chance.
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> This SPV-355 isn=E2=80=99t even listed on Vintage Synth under the =
Roland section, so it is probably more rare than the ARP AVATAR.
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> Brian
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