Re: [AH] Moog CP-251 vs. Koma Elektronik RH-301

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the problem with GAS:
Prepare yourself for high turnover for solutions in the ever expanding =
synth gear, specifically modular world :) [example: Bakis Sirros!]=20

What works solidly one day is out the door the next.=20

I=92m still trying to dial in the =93system=94 3 years on. But like =
nirvana, I am bound to get there.. one day  :P=20


Todd
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On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:04 PM, skunk3 <redacted@example.com> wrote:

> *hangs head in shame* I'm a slut. The G.A.S. has got me like dope.=20
>=20
> Tom - I agree! That's why I posted this question. It seems to me like =
the Koma unit would be super fun and useful, but of course it might be =
in my best interest to get a Euro rig started. It's hard decide. I =
really like that the Koma pedals come with a "d-beam" so to speak. It's =
actually super fun and useful. Those Kommander units seem to be =
affordable and interesting. The CP-251 seems like a really handy unit, =
but the Koma pedal seems more up my alley. I dunno though. I need to =
carefully strategize, as I plan on getting an Avalon Bassline and well =
as potentially going face-first into that modular rabbit hole.=20
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> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:48 PM, i go bananas <redacted@example.com> =
wrote:
> skunk, i thought you just needed ONE more bit of gear, and then you =
were done.  ;)
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> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:06 AM, skunk3 <redacted@example.com> wrote:
> A part of the reason why I posed this question is because I currently =
have a Fooger and a Koma pedal, plus a Ekdahl Moisturizer... I also have =
a MS-20 mini and a recently acquired Elektron A4, so I'm trying to =
figure out my G.A.S. vector here... the Koma Komplex sequencer appears =
to be a must have for me (in theory), but as I said, there is much =
learning in store. I've been a MIDI guy for a long time and CV is =
currently piquing my curiousity..
>=20
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:03 PM, skunk3 <redacted@example.com> wrote:
> I can't remember who suggested the Doepfer cases to me in lieu of the =
Pittsburgh cases, but after some research I realized they're totally on =
point. I definitely need to score a case as soon as I can. I also want =
the Oberheim SEM module that's coming out. As far as all of the other =
stuff, I dunno. There are so many options with Eurorack that it's kinda =
dazzling... there's many modules that I've read about and realized that =
I have no idea what I'd even use something like that for. Definitely a =
learning curve for a guy who has never been into modular.=20
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Em Wilson <redacted@example.com> =
wrote:
> I myself am a fan of the  A-100PB=20
> =
http://www.schneidersladen.de/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab=
33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/130350_5.jpg
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> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:54 PM, skunk3 <redacted@example.com> wrote:
> Thank you guys for the thoughtful responses. I'm still looking for one =
of those Doepfer A-100 p6/p9 cases. :)
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> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Kenny Balys <redacted@example.com> =
wrote:
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> Same here. That is the way modular stuff has found its way into =
everyday use in my room. Its probably only 3 or 4 % of the time that I =
use modular as a base form of synthesizer. I use this stuff constantly =
for audio processing, routing, sweeting, dirtying, destroying, =
rebuilding, I am out of adjectives...
>=20
> It is incredible what can be done with an attenuator, envelope, cheap =
VCA, LFO and filter. Or a BBD module? Or something else.... add an =
envelope follower and there is another world open to audio. No VCO's =
required for this job.
>=20
> Something like the Vactrol multimode filter from Doepfer may not be =
your first choice for a bladder leakage causing synth voice, but process =
audio through it and you can make a huge impact on your sound.
>=20
>=20
> On 04-02-2015 9:59 PM, Em Wilson wrote:
> I went through a similar process while considering outboard filter =
gear
> (sherman, ebb & flutt). Going for a modular processing setup just made
> more sense to me.
>=20
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Kenny Balys <redacted@example.com
> <mailto:redacted@example.com>> wrote:
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>     I wouldn't waste my money on either of these boxes.
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>     An LFO, ENV, multiple and couple of attenuators as Eurorack is
>     cheaper, and far and away more versatile.
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>     These boxes are worth max. $200 to me.
>=20
>     You can buy a whole Minibrute for the price.
>=20
>=20
>     On 04-02-2015 9:47 PM, skunk3 wrote:
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>         If forced to pick between these two units, which would you =
pick,
>         and why?
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> Archivist/Collections Manager @ your local tribal entity
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charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">the =
problem with GAS:<div>Prepare yourself for high turnover for solutions =
in the ever expanding synth gear, specifically modular world :) =
[example: Bakis Sirros!]&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>What works solidly one =
day is out the door the next.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I=92m still =
trying to dial in the =93system=94 3 years on. But like nirvana, I am =
bound to get there.. one day =
&nbsp;:P&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Todd</div><div>--<b=
r><div><div>On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:04 PM, skunk3 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com">redacted@example.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">*hangs head in shame* I'm a slut. The =
G.A.S. has got me like dope.&nbsp;<br><div><br>Tom - I agree! That's why =
I posted this question. It seems to me like the Koma unit would be super =
fun and useful, but of course it might be in my best interest to get a =
Euro rig started. It's hard decide. I really like that the Koma pedals =
come with a "d-beam" so to speak. It's actually super fun and useful. =
Those Kommander units seem to be affordable and interesting. The CP-251 =
seems like a really handy unit, but the Koma pedal seems more up my =
alley. I dunno though. I need to carefully strategize, as I plan on =
getting an Avalon Bassline and well as potentially going face-first into =
that modular rabbit hole.&nbsp;<br></div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 =
at 5:48 PM, i go bananas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">skunk, =
i thought you just needed ONE more bit of gear, and then you were done. =
&nbsp;;)<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 =
at 8:06 AM, skunk3 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">A part of the reason why I =
posed this question is because I currently have a Fooger and a Koma =
pedal, plus a Ekdahl Moisturizer... I also have a MS-20 mini and a =
recently acquired Elektron A4, so I'm trying to figure out my G.A.S. =
vector here... the Koma Komplex sequencer appears to be a must have for =
me (in theory), but as I said, there is much learning in store. I've =
been a MIDI guy for a long time and CV is currently piquing my =
curiousity..<br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:03 PM, skunk3 <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I can't remember who =
suggested the Doepfer cases to me in lieu of the Pittsburgh cases, but =
after some research I realized they're totally on point. I definitely =
need to score a case as soon as I can. I also want the Oberheim SEM =
module that's coming out. As far as all of the other stuff, I dunno. =
There are so many options with Eurorack that it's kinda dazzling... =
there's many modules that I've read about and realized that I have no =
idea what I'd even use something like that for. Definitely a learning =
curve for a guy who has never been into =
modular.&nbsp;<br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 =
at 4:58 PM, Em Wilson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I =
myself am a fan of the&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family: =
Arial;">&nbsp;A-100PB&nbsp;</span><div><font face=3D"Arial"><a =
href=3D"http://www.schneidersladen.de/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/=
9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/130350_5.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.schneidersladen.de/media/catalog/product/cach=
e/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/130350_5.jpg</a></font><br>=
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:54 PM, skunk3 <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you guys for the =
thoughtful responses. I'm still looking for one of those Doepfer A-100 =
p6/p9 cases. :)<br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Kenny Balys <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Same here. That is the way modular stuff has found its way into everyday =
use in my room. Its probably only 3 or 4 % of the time that I use =
modular as a base form of synthesizer. I use this stuff constantly for =
audio processing, routing, sweeting, dirtying, destroying, rebuilding, I =
am out of adjectives...<br>
<br>
It is incredible what can be done with an attenuator, envelope, cheap =
VCA, LFO and filter. Or a BBD module? Or something else.... add an =
envelope follower and there is another world open to audio. No VCO's =
required for this job.<br>
<br>
Something like the Vactrol multimode filter from Doepfer may not be your =
first choice for a bladder leakage causing synth voice, but process =
audio through it and you can make a huge impact on your sound.<span><br>
<br>
<br>
On 04-02-2015 9:59 PM, Em Wilson wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
I went through a similar process while considering outboard filter =
gear<br>
(sherman, ebb &amp; flutt). Going for a modular processing setup just =
made<br>
more sense to me.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Kenny Balys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a><br></span><span>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I wouldn't waste my money on either of these boxes.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; An LFO, ENV, multiple and couple of attenuators as =
Eurorack is<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; cheaper, and far and away more versatile.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; These boxes are worth max. $200 to me.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; You can buy a whole Minibrute for the price.<br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; On 04-02-2015 9:47 PM, skunk3 wrote:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If forced to pick between these two units, =
which would you pick,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; and why?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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