RE: [AH] Doepfer Regelwek/Dark Time

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I have a regelwerk but with all the menu diving etc i didn't find it very h=
ands on or realtime as a sequencer.......which sounds like would be importa=
nt to you.
It's both a midi controller and sequencer and most people i know end up usi=
ng it as a controller rather than the sequencer=2C doepfer tried to make it=
 good at both but as a sequencer it's not the best
I nearly got rid of it but finally put a computer with ableton in the studi=
o and it's found a new life as a controller=2C was still a bit painful to s=
et up due to the menu's but once it was set up it's been great to use with =
ableton.

You should check out the sequentix cirklon=2C it's an amazing sequencer wit=
h plenty of midi and cv/gate and now drum trigger outputs :)


Date: Fri=2C 9 Jan 2015 20:37:35 +0000
From: FelixKrull2u@comcast.net
To: niroke@tampabay.rr.com
CC: analogue@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [AH] Doepfer Regelwek/Dark Time

 There is a local posting with a Regelwerk which does reference their rarit=
y.=20

From: "Nicholas Keller" <niroke@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Paul T" <FelixKrull2u@comcast.net>
Cc: analogue@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday=2C January 9=2C 2015 12:19:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AH] Doepfer Regelwek/Dark Time

Do you have a regelwerk?  There aren't tons around for sale.  I have two MA=
Qs and the A-154/155(152=2C156) combo.  I like the MAQs for being 16 step (=
but not fixed) and for each row being independent (you can have one forward=
=2C one pendulum=2C one random)=2C unlike the A-155.  The MAQs can make for=
 some cool polyrhythmic sequences=2C but to really push them to the limit=
=2C you need to send midi messages to them while you're at it.  That really=
 opens them up=2C but I rarely do that as it requires integrating with the =
computer. I usually just sync the MAQs to the Machinedrum and leave the com=
puter off=2C booting up only to capture a good passage as audio.  If I do w=
ant to control it more deliberately via midi=2C I have an Ableton Live file=
 that has all the midi commands as "clips" so I can have all the rows switc=
h to random at bar 17 and back at bar 19 for example=2C something that woul=
d be impossible to do via the front panel.  Here's a video I made to show t=
hat it is possible using this Ableton file to switch from forward to random=
 and back again=2C restarting the forward sequence at step 1 (something the=
 software guy at Doepfer thought was not possible).  https://vimeo.com/5894=
3038It requires a message be sent on step 1 of the forward sequence which s=
ets the first and last step to 1=2C then a message on step 2 that sets firs=
t step to 2 and last to 16.=20
The A-155 is cool in that it has inputs for each step=2C so you can not onl=
y sequence fixed voltages=2C but you can also sequence modulation sources o=
r audio. It's fun to stuff an LFO into one step's input and quantize the se=
quencer's output=2C then for that LFO injection period you will get a burst=
 of notes not likely in time with the sequence itself. Here are a few examp=
les I made of sequencing audio:https://vimeo.com/68894557https://vimeo.com/=
68914174
Dark time is cool for having built/in quantizer and being available as a st=
and alone box=2C but I don't think it has the analog control inputs availab=
le with the A-154 sequencer controller=2C but I could be wrong.=20
I'm off to watch Paul's video now...
Nick



On Jan 9=2C 2015=2C at 2:00 PM=2C Paul T <FelixKrull2u@comcast.net> wrote:

Speaking of wanting acid machines: do any of you fine folks use or have str=
ong opinions on the above sequencers? I do own an ARP sequencer and a Rolan=
d 104 and an Oberheim mini sequencer plus lots of monophonic analogs but am=
 thinking of joining the 22nd century such as it is. I do not really use co=
mputers much in making music at the moment so can I get much use out of the=
 Regelwerk as a sequencer and a fader/controller? Should I be thinking of o=
ther sequencers besides these? I've got a Garfield Mini Doc and several oth=
er synchronizers and trigger sequencers.   On a related note: what's the be=
st MPC in your opinion? I'm afraid my idea of a sequencer is a Linn 9000 wi=
th all of the possible add ons. I hear Mr Linn has gone on to do other thin=
gs besides the Linn.  :) I'm sure what I should really be spending money on=
 is getting some stuff serviced at this point.

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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>I have a regelwerk but with all =
the menu diving etc i didn't find it very hands on or realtime as a sequenc=
er.......which sounds like would be important to you.<br>It's both a midi c=
ontroller and sequencer and most people i know end up using it as a control=
ler rather than the sequencer=2C doepfer tried to make it good at both but =
as a sequencer it's not the best<br>I nearly got rid of it but finally put =
a computer with ableton in the studio and it's found a new life as a contro=
ller=2C was still a bit painful to set up due to the menu's but once it was=
 set up it's been great to use with ableton.<br><br>You should check out th=
e sequentix cirklon=2C it's an amazing sequencer with plenty of midi and cv=
/gate and now drum trigger outputs :)<br><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpellin=
g">Date: Fri=2C 9 Jan 2015 20:37:35 +0000<br>From: FelixKrull2u@comcast.net=
<br>To: niroke@tampabay.rr.com<br>CC: analogue@hyperreal.org<br>Subject: Re=
: [AH] Doepfer Regelwek/Dark Time<br><br><div style=3D"font-family:Arial=3B=
font-size:12pt=3Bcolor:#000000=3B"><div>&nbsp=3BThere is a local posting wi=
th a Regelwerk which does reference their rarity.&nbsp=3B<br></div><div><br=
></div><hr id=3D"ecxzwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000=3Bfont-weight:normal=3B=
font-style:normal=3Btext-decoration:none=3Bfont-family:Helvetica=2CArial=2C=
sans-serif=3Bfont-size:12pt=3B"><b>From: </b>"Nicholas Keller" &lt=3Bniroke=
@tampabay.rr.com&gt=3B<br><b>To: </b>"Paul T" &lt=3BFelixKrull2u@comcast.ne=
t&gt=3B<br><b>Cc: </b>analogue@hyperreal.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday=2C Janu=
ary 9=2C 2015 12:19:02 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [AH] Doepfer Regelwek/Dark=
 Time<br><div><br></div><div>Do you have a regelwerk? &nbsp=3BThere aren't =
tons around for sale. &nbsp=3BI have two MAQs and the A-154/155(152=2C156) =
combo. &nbsp=3BI like the MAQs for being 16 step (but not fixed) and for ea=
ch row being independent (you can have one forward=2C one pendulum=2C one r=
andom)=2C unlike the A-155. &nbsp=3BThe MAQs can make for some cool polyrhy=
thmic sequences=2C but to really push them to the limit=2C you need to send=
 midi messages to them while you're at it. &nbsp=3BThat really opens them u=
p=2C but I rarely do that as it requires integrating with the computer. I u=
sually just sync the MAQs to the Machinedrum and leave the computer off=2C =
booting up only to capture a good passage as audio. &nbsp=3BIf I do want to=
 control it more deliberately via midi=2C I have an Ableton Live file that =
has all the midi commands as "clips" so I can have all the rows switch to r=
andom at bar 17 and back at bar 19 for example=2C something that would be i=
mpossible to do via the front panel. &nbsp=3BHere's a video I made to show =
that it is possible using this Ableton file to switch from forward to rando=
m and back again=2C restarting the forward sequence at step 1 (something th=
e software guy at Doepfer thought was not possible). &nbsp=3B</div><div><a =
href=3D"https://vimeo.com/58943038" target=3D"_blank">https://vimeo.com/589=
43038</a></div><div>It requires a message be sent on step 1 of the forward =
sequence which sets the first and last step to 1=2C then a message on step =
2 that sets first step to 2 and last to 16.&nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><di=
v>The A-155 is cool in that it has inputs for each step=2C so you can not o=
nly sequence fixed voltages=2C but you can also sequence modulation sources=
 or audio. It's fun to stuff an LFO into one step's input and quantize the =
sequencer's output=2C then for that LFO injection period you will get a bur=
st of notes not likely in time with the sequence itself. Here are a few exa=
mples I made of sequencing audio:</div><div><a href=3D"https://vimeo.com/68=
894557" target=3D"_blank">https://vimeo.com/68894557</a></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://vimeo.com/68914174" target=3D"_blank">https://vimeo.com/6891417=
4</a></div><div><br></div><div>Dark time is cool for having built/in quanti=
zer and being available as a stand alone box=2C but I don't think it has th=
e analog control inputs available with the A-154 sequencer controller=2C bu=
t I could be wrong.&nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><div>I'm off to watch Paul'=
s video now...</div><div><br></div><div>Nick<br><div><br></div><br></div><d=
iv><br>On Jan 9=2C 2015=2C at 2:00 PM=2C Paul T &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:Fel=
ixKrull2u@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">FelixKrull2u@comcast.net</a>&gt=3B=
 wrote:<br><div><br></div></div><blockquote><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Arial=3Bfont-size:12pt=3Bcolor:#000000=3B"><div><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt=3B">Speaking of wanting acid machines: do any of you fine folks use or h=
ave strong opinions on the above sequencers? I do own an ARP sequencer and =
a Roland 104 and an Oberheim mini sequencer plus lots of monophonic analogs=
 but am thinking of joining the 22nd century such as it is. I do not really=
 use computers much in making music at the moment so can I get much use out=
 of the Regelwerk as a sequencer and a fader/controller? Should I be thinki=
ng of other sequencers besides these? I've got a Garfield Mini Doc and seve=
ral other&nbsp=3B</span>synchronizers and trigger sequencers.<span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt=3B">&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B</span></div><div style=3D"color:#000=
=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bfont-style:normal=3Btext-decoration:none=3Bfont-fam=
ily:Helvetica=2CArial=2Csans-serif=3Bfont-size:12pt=3B"><div style=3D"font-=
family:Arial=3Bfont-size:12pt=3Bcolor:#000000=3B"><div>&nbsp=3BOn a related=
 note: what's the best MPC in your opinion? I'm afraid my idea of a sequenc=
er is a Linn 9000 with all of the possible add ons. I hear Mr Linn has gone=
 on to do other things besides the Linn. &nbsp=3B:)</div><div>&nbsp=3BI'm s=
ure what I should really be spending money on is getting some stuff service=
d at this point.</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><=
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