Sent Mon, Dec 13th 2004, 23:53
Sampling james brown records and putting them through SuppaTrigga is keeping it real?? what are you talking about?? I think "keeping it real" refers to the lyrics, what are the lyrics on the Prefuse 73? o On Dec 10, 2004, at 4:36 PM, alex prescott wrote: > word. once again, please check http://www.prefuse73.com/home.shtml > > no 808, but analogue galore. see the minimoog? does amazing things > with the MPC as well... > > THIS is "keeping it real". > > Rude 66 <email@example.com> wrote: > he's not condemning an entire genre, just the commercial excesses of > it. i > used to love hiphop back in what's now called the old skool days.. > hell, the > electro tracks i make were inspired by old hiphop. mantronix, johnzun > crew, > older too short, stuff like that was all made with an 808, a bass > synth and > a voice. i haven't seen any real scratch dj's with commercial acts in > years, > they've all gone to turntablism. there is still good stuff out there, > but > it's not in the top of the charts. > > one thing in defense of hiphop: it's always been more or at least as > much > about the lyrics and performance of those than the beats. some of that > stuff, including eminem's tirades, are superb. > > and Tim, there are as much euro hiphop poducers as there are in > america, > only they don't really get known outside their home countries. but > every > country has its distinctive style here. just because you don't know > them, > doesn't mean they don't exist..;-) > > all in all, commercial hiphop isn't really that different from any > commercial music. most of it's crap, and occasionally there's a gem in > between..;-) > > back to analogue: are there stil hiphop artists that do it old skool > with an > 808 and, perhaps, a voyager for basslines instead of samples and mpc's? > > r./ > > > > > > please note: from 01-01-2005 my chello.nl mail adress will NOT work > anymore. > please update to rude66 at xs4all.nl (at=@) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bieniosek" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AH] Hip Hop production and analogue > > >> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, alex prescott wrote: >> >>> i would like to know what "commercially successful" hip-hop you >>> consider > to have ANY artistic merit. >> >> >> Generally, if you're condemning an entire genre, it's time to step >> out of >> your bubble and open your mind. The rest of your criticism is you >> trying >> to squeeze hiphop through your very narrow point of view. That's all I > can >> really say. Sorry. >> > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more.