Re: Re: [AH] analog mixers with multi-channel digital outs

From laurie
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well, the thing I like about the light pipe on the RME is you don't have to have a version of Cubase loaded so you can hear more than 2 channels...

If you have a Alesis HD recorder, you have 24 ins outs there both Balanced and Light Pipe... there are lots of USB AD converters , but they require Cubase to


---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:39:58 -0600 Em Wilson <emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

I seem to recall Mackie going through some pretty serious QC issues - was that just a bunch of message board chatter, or have they sorted that out?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby <brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
Yes, and you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and that has the DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of them, and you'd need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 channels, I think. The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the digital inputs are four AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular outboard converter for expansion. All in all, I think it would get quite expensive to build a digital I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate converters - the ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not quite top in sound quality.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie <laurie@ronchmusic.com> wrote:
 > if you have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 channels  to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 channel HDSP I think its called for PC ....  ins and outs  0 latency
 >
 > ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. Horton<horton.andrew@gmail.com> wrote ----
 > Just to clarify - those don't have the firewire.
 >
 > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby <brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
 > I was just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with FireWire, Perkins "British-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced mic/line outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and that's separate from the usual inserts on every channel.
 >
 > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html
 > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html
 > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4
 >
 > You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for a set. Of course, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) then you're set!
 >
 > Brian
 >
 > On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" <horton.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
 > > Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin footprint, too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like a charm. Have never once had an issue making records on it for the past few years.
 > >
 > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson <emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote:
 > >> I'm researching a new desk and looking for options similar to the Venice f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've had Soundcraft and Spirit desks for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines
 > >>
 > >> Under $5,000
 > >> 16-24 channels
 > >> Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, 16-24
 > >> Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreciated)
 > >> 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)
 > >>
 > >> I'm hoping are European comrades are aware of some options we don't normally hear about here in the states. Bonus points if the console matches my Costco desk chair!
 > >>
 >
 






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<div><br><div>On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brianw@audiobanshee.com" target=3D"_blank">b=
rianw@audiobanshee.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin=
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4); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">Yes, and you could u=
se a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and that has the DB25 input.=
 But it would get expensive to buy three of them, and you'd need a couple o=
f FireWire busses to handle more than 16 channels, I think. The LIO-8 has 8=
 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the digital inputs are four AES3 pairs, s=
o that would require a particular outboard converter for expansion. All in =
all, I think it would get quite expensive to build a digital I/O mixer with=
 the 24.4 and separate converters - the ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not qu=
ite top in sound quality.<br> <span><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Brian<br> =
</font></span><div><div><br> <br> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:laurie@ronchmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">laurie@ronchmusi=
c.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; if you have multi analog outs, you could use =
the ADA8000 for 8 channels&nbsp; to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a =
wonderfull 52 channel HDSP I think its called for PC ....&nbsp; ins and out=
s&nbsp; 0 latency<br> &gt;<br> &gt; ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600=
 A. Horton&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:horton.andrew@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote ----<br> &gt; Just to clarify - those=
 don't have the firewire.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 P=
M, Brian Willoughby &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brianw@audiobanshee.com" target=
=3D"_blank">brianw@audiobanshee.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; I was just abou=
t to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with FireWire, Perkins "Briti=
sh-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced mic/line outputs for all ch=
annels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and that's separate from the usua=
l inserts on every channel.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mackie.=
com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/=
products/onyx4bus/splash.html</a><br> &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mackie.com=
/products/onyx24-4/index.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/prod=
ucts/onyx24-4/index.html</a><br> &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.sweetwater.com/=
store/detail/Onyx24x4" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sweetwater.com/store/de=
tail/Onyx24x4</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheap=
ly, around $200 for a set. Of course, if your recording gear has DB25 input=
s (mine done) then you're set!<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Brian<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On=
 Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:horton.andrew@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt=
; &gt; Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin footprin=
t, too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like a charm. H=
ave never once had an issue making records on it for the past few years.<br=
> &gt; &gt;<br> &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:emwilson612@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">emwilson612@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; I'm researching a new desk and lookin=
g for options similar to the Venice f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've=
 had Soundcraft and Spirit desks for 20 years now. The following are some g=
uidelines<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Under $5,000<br> &gt; &gt;&gt=
; 16-24 channels<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Multiple, duplex channels in and out; ag=
ain, 16-24<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreci=
ated)<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)<br>=
 &gt; &gt;&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; I'm hoping are European comrades are aware=
 of some options we don't normally hear about here in the states. Bonus poi=
nts if the console matches my Costco desk chair!<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;=
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