Re: Fw: [AH] Frostwave SSM ???

From Tomislav Babic
Sent Wed, Jun 20th 2007, 04:11

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On 6/20/07, ... snafu ... <simonabsent@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
> thanx so far :-)
> thing is:
>
> i am thinking of letting go all my "blues":
>
> emulator2
> SP12
>
> but i know i will miss the filters...
> that is my reason for asking you guys...
>
> what would you suggest?


emax rack ?

its very close to eii sound, i beleive it can do sp12 to an extent but with
more flexibility of a full featured smapler/snyth (iei control over filter
env, reso etc). same filters and vca.  (btw i find 2044 sounds better, and
2040 even much moreso)

emax cost  peanuts,  can have scsi disk etc.. and  takes no room.

i got one SE edition w scsi zip, and i compared to frined's EII. nothing
earth shuttering different. i have SP-12 here now, also on loan,
but hadn't the time to do a detailed side by side yet. SP-12 sure punches t=
o
no end. EMAX may have a slightly smlr low end, but
im speculating right now...  gotta check this as i love SP-12.



----- Original Message -----
> From: "dj hohum" <djhohum@gmail.com>
> To: "Matthew Davidson" <matthew@blank.org>
> Cc: "Analogue Heaven" <analogue@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AH] Frostwave SSM ???
>
>
> While the debate for the most glorious filter rages on, it's pretty
> well accepted that the 2040 and the 2044 do NOT sound the same.
>
> The original emulator used the 2044, the emulator II used the 2045. As
> has already been pointed out, the Deopfer 105 is a 2044 in a module.
> The 2045 is a VCF/VCA combo chip similar to the CEM 3372. It might be
> the 2044 + 2 vcas, or, something else, perhaps Paul S. knows the
> details of the internals.
>
> I'm also fairly sure that the MOTM is a discrete design and does not
> use the 2040 VCF.  I believe J=FCrgen Haible has a discrete clone design
> on his website and you can also see another design based on this on
> Rene Schmitz's site.
>
> http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs159/rs2040.png
>
> If you want a REAL 2040 filter then you can get one if you find the
> right octave cat. Since it has an external filter input and, I
> believe, CV input for the filter, you can use it fairly easily.
>
> So, in summary, 2044, easy and cheap to get. Real 2040, expensive and
> hard to get, clone 2040, expensive and easy to get.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> On 6/19/07, Matthew Davidson <matthew@blank.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:58 PM, ... snafu ... wrote:
> >
> > > is there a box out there, that recaptures the sound of the SSM
> > > filters like they were built in to the emulator2 and others?
> >
> > Doepfer A-105
> > http://www.doepfer.de/a105.htm
> >
>
>


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