Re: [AH] FS: in Europe GRP A8 (not mine)

From i go bananas
Sent Wed, May 28th 2014, 21:06

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>I think the problem here is that some people use modules that just have a
CV IN jack, and some have CV jacks *with* attenuators.

ah maybe.  Maybe i'm in the minority cos the only modular's i have used are
the vintage Rolands? (System 100m, to be exact)

i assumed maybe incorrectly that all modulars don't include attenuation for
their modulation inputs.



On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Mark Glinsky <redacted@example.com>wrote:

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> Some modulars have pre-patched routings behind the modules, which patch
> cables would override.
> In those cases, yanking the cables would restore the patch to what's
> prepatched, but may not set a modulation amount (or whatever) to zero.
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>   *From:* i go bananas <redacted@example.com>
> *To:* Jason Proctor <redacted@example.com>
> *Cc:* Pekka Korolainen <redacted@example.com>; mcc_p <
> redacted@example.com>; analogueheaven <redacted@example.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AH] FS: in Europe GRP A8 (not mine)
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> > you still have to turn all your "amounts" to zero on a modular to get
> the equivalent, yes? otherwise when you patch something in there, you'll
> still get the "amount" you had before.
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> yeah, but in a modular, if you pull the cable out, the 'amount' is
> automatically zero, cos no CV is going in.
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> with a pre-patched synth, you have to either turn the patching destination
> to zero, or else turn the modulation amount to zero.
>
> In either case, without specifically looking at the knob positions, or
> having a photographic memory, it's hard to know which knobs need to be
> turned to zero to reset the synth.
>
> With a cable based modular, it's plainly obvious, cos you can just pull
> the cables out.
>
> Do you guys actually play synths?  I cant believe this is such an issue it
> needs explaining.
> For sure the pre-patched model has been incredibly popular since the
> minimoog came out, but the recent revival of modular synths suggests that
> maybe some people prefer to start their sounds from scratch.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
13px">I think the problem here is that some people use modules that just ha=
ve a CV IN=C2=A0jack, and some have CV jacks *with* attenuators.</span><div=
><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13p=
x">ah maybe. =C2=A0Maybe i&#39;m in the minority cos the only modular&#39;s=
 i have used are the vintage Rolands? (System 100m, to be exact)<br><br>i a=
ssumed maybe incorrectly that all modulars don&#39;t include attenuation fo=
r their modulation inputs.=C2=A0<br>
<br></span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Mark Glinsky <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" target=3D"_blank">glinskym@sbc=
global.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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ca,sans-serif;font-size:14pt">
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helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNe=
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 <div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 </div> <div><br><div><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(=
0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt;background-c=
olor:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>Some modulars have pre-patched routings b=
ehind the modules, which patch cables would override. </span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:18.66px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>In tho=
se cases, yanking the cables would restore the patch to what&#39;s prepatch=
ed, but may not set a modulation
 amount (or whatever) to zero.</span></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);f=
ont-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.66px;font-style:normal=
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d rgb(204,204,204);line-height:0;font-size:0px;min-height:0px"></div>  <fon=
t face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> i go=
 bananas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" target=3D"_blank">hard.o=
redacted@example.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jason Proctor
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" target=3D"_blank">jason@redfish.n=
et</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:</span=
></b> Pekka Korolainen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;; mcc_p &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:redacted@example.com" target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;; an=
alogueheaven &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:redacted@example.com" target=3D"_blank=
">redacted@example.com</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 28, 20=
14 1:39 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:<=
/span></b> Re: [AH] FS: in Europe GRP A8 (not mine)<br clear=3D"none"> </fo=
nt> </div>
 <div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<span style=3D"font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">=C2=A0you still
 have to turn all your &quot;amounts&quot; to zero on a modular to get the =
equivalent, yes? otherwise when you patch something in there, you&#39;ll st=
ill get the &quot;amount&quot; you had before.=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">yeah, but in a modular, if you pull the cable out, the &=
#39;amount&#39; is automatically zero, cos no CV is going in. =C2=A0<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">with a pre-patched synth, you have to either=
 turn the patching destination to zero, or else turn the modulation amount =
to zero. =C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">

<br clear=3D"none">In either case, without specifically looking at the knob=
 positions, or having a photographic memory, it&#39;s hard to know which kn=
obs need to be turned to zero to reset the synth. =C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none">
With a cable based modular, it&#39;s plainly obvious, cos you can just pull=
 the cables out.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">Do you guys actually play synths? =C2=A0I cant believe t=
his is such an issue it needs explaining. =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">F=
or sure the pre-patched model has been incredibly popular since the minimoo=
g came out, but the recent revival of modular synths suggests that maybe so=
me people prefer to start their sounds from scratch.=C2=A0</span></div>

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