Re: [AH] Is VC Resonance a "useful" feature?

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I have a Yusynth diode Ladder (EMS style) filter with cv q and it's way
cool!  Thinking about imlementing that on my other filters, via vactrol ;)


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Nicholas Keller <niroke@tampabay.rr.com>wrote:

> On my A-124 Wasp filter, I installed a VCA insert loop into the feedback
> path as was mentioned here earlier.  I did this for all my modular filters
> that had no VCQ (and other monosynths I own: Cat SRM, 303, 101)
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Kenny Balys <kenny@beatkamp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thats true in isolation but most of us have several filter options.
> >
> > I absolutely _need_ to have 1 or 2 different filters with a modulation
> capability for Q (and do)
> >
> > Also I have two filters that have no such option:
> >
> > - Doepfer A-124 Wasp filter; it can sweep from LP to HP but no QCV
> > - Doepfer A-104 Trautonium Formant Filter; no QCV but really special
> textures animate themselves under hand control
> >
> > In the end, if I am leaving for Alpha Proxima on Colony Ship 1 and I can
> only take a single VCF module, it is damn well going to be one with CV into
> everything.
> >
> > A good design speaks for itself; with or without QCV.
> >
> >
> >> On 25.01.14 6:56 PM, djstorm wrote:
> >> Maybe the better question to ask is what you would be trading off to
> keep
> >> it in?  i.e. everyone wants VC resonance when they're not giving up any
> >> other functionality on the same module.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Paul Schreiber <synth1@airmail.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......
> >>>
> >>> Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be
> honest:
> >>> are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?
> >>>
> >>> Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that
> the
> >>> harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of
> modular
> >>> owners do not 'play' them that way.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>> Paul S.
> >>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a Yusynth diode Ladder (EMS style) filter with cv q=
 and it&#39;s way cool!=A0 Thinking about imlementing that on my other filt=
ers, via vactrol ;)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Nicholas Keller <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:niroke@tampabay.rr.com" target=3D"_blank">niroke@tampabay.rr.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On my A-124 Wasp filter, I installed a VCA insert loop into the feedback pa=
th as was mentioned here earlier. =A0I did this for all my modular filters =
that had no VCQ (and other monosynths I own: Cat SRM, 303, 101)<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Kenny Balys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kenny@b=
eatkamp.com">kenny@beatkamp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thats true in isolation but most of us have several filter options.<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I absolutely _need_ to have 1 or 2 different filters with a modulation=
 capability for Q (and do)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also I have two filters that have no such option:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Doepfer A-124 Wasp filter; it can sweep from LP to HP but no QCV<br>
&gt; - Doepfer A-104 Trautonium Formant Filter; no QCV but really special t=
extures animate themselves under hand control<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In the end, if I am leaving for Alpha Proxima on Colony Ship 1 and I c=
an only take a single VCF module, it is damn well going to be one with CV i=
nto everything.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A good design speaks for itself; with or without QCV.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 25.01.14 6:56 PM, djstorm wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Maybe the better question to ask is what you would be trading off =
to keep<br>
&gt;&gt; it in? =A0i.e. everyone wants VC resonance when they&#39;re not gi=
ving up any<br>
&gt;&gt; other functionality on the same module.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Paul Schreiber &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:synth1@airmail.net">synth1@airmail.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Both the &#39;440 and &#39;480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, =
and let&#39;s be honest:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res,=
 so that the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% =
of modular<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; owners do not &#39;play&#39; them that way.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thoughts?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Paul S.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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