Re: [AH] The essence of vintage gear - parts? - age? - design? - mytholo

From Phil Wheeler
Sent Tue, Jun 5th 2007, 11:49

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Music, or at least interesting sound, is the goal in my view. Crickets, a
sqeaky rocking chair, a 1-chip VCO (NE566), a couple of 555s (PAIA Fatman),
or a carefully crafted temperature compensated VCO/VCF/VCA combination that
tracks to 10 octaves. All of these produce interesting sounds -- *Musique
concr=E8te* comes to mind. Interesting sounds can and sometimes do lead to
music.

On 6/5/07, dj hohum <djhohum@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Uh, you're on the wrong list mate, this is a synthesists list, not the
> "only non musicians believe that the emperor isn't  wearing any clothes a=
nd
> that magic pixie woo woo gives my synths balls that would probably look r=
eal
> good in satin nut huggers while I wank out keith emerson super riffs" lis=
t.
> Nobody has to be a musician to post on AH, and in fact, you're being quit=
e
> insulting to the many non-musicians who ARE on the list. Yeah, there are
> non-musicians here, I know, I've heard some of the music they produce ;)
>
> Remember, we are talking about electronic instruments. Take a look at the
> archives where the essence of the TB-303, among others, has been describe=
d
> in detail on several occasions. Synths are electronics, with rare excepti=
on,
> everything else is second order.
>
> I think Paul S. pretty much described the essence of the model 12, if you
> don't think that it's possible to do so, why don't you respond to that
> message with some more of your deep technical insight.
>
> It's always a struggle to have a technical conversation on AH, it sure
> isn't like the old days. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that synth collecto=
rs
> exist, they keep the value of my synths up so they'll be worth more when =
I
> go to sell em, that's good.
>
> Speaking of selling, the price of the Juno VCA/VCF also seems to have gon=
e
> through the roof. Makes a parted out Juno worth more than a Juno. Unless,=
 of
> course, you're the lucky bloke who sold his for $699 on the buy it now.
>
> So if paul's VCO can track over 10 octaves, what can one expect out of th=
e
> typical 3340 VCO? 8? 6? 4? Doepfer claims a "range" of 12 octaves for the=
ir
> 3340 VCO, but, they have a range switch. What about that moog VCO, how we=
ll
> does it track? The memory moog uses 3340s so we can assume that it's at
> least five octaves, yes?
>
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> On 6/4/07, Prototek <prototek@optonline.net> wrote:
> >     Some of the most revered instruments in history have qualities that
> you
> > cannot quantify. I think the people that are always trying to quantify
> the
> > elusive qualities of these beautiful instruments are TOTALLY missing th=
e
> > mark and are most CERTAINLY not musicians themselves.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     John Langdon
> >
> >
> > On 6/4/07 2:29 AM, "Nils Odegaard" <nilsodegaard@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> He claimed that this filter had that> certain "something". What is
> that
> > >> "something"? It seems like it's> wishful thinking to me. If you can'=
t
> > >> quantify it or measure it, then> I'm not so sure that it exists.
> > > Wow. What a depressing thought, not being able to perceive or feel
> qualities
> > > that aren't quantifiable. I can understand why people raise their
> eyebrows to
> > > the prices of vintage gear, but to reduce the discussion of gear
> qualities
> > > (vintage or not) to purely technical issues, is pushing it a bit too
> far,
> > > imho.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Nils, Norway
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