[AH] Re: Modern Modular Schematic Availability - was: Re: [AH] VCOs wave

From Plan B (Peter Grenader)
Sent Sat, Aug 4th 2007, 16:14

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Daryl, we've just met and you're again debating me.  I am honored.

If you ever take the plunge and manufacture modular gear on your own  
on a professional basis, feel free to mange your intellectual  
property the way you feel is best.  That's what I'm doing.  As far as  
SDIY'r and stealing - they aren't the problem  If one guy wants to  
make one circuit for his own use, no problem, but there are plenty of  
lurkers on the SDIY list and there are documented cases where people  
have felt designs published there have mysteriously made it into  
manufactured goods.

Now, to the real issue at hand - Daryl, I am not going to continue  
this issue with you here or off-list.  You can say anything you wish  
to attempt to bait me further,  but I've just been on this road with  
you, and I'm not going to again.  Here:  you're right.  I *should* do  
what you're suggesting.  But...I'm not going to.  Even if all my  
colleagues, the other manufacturers, decide to do it -  I'm not.  I  
fully realize that by refusing to do this I am not meeting your  
expectations and I'm sorry about that, but that's the way it's going  
to be.

good day, my friend.

- P

On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:39 AM, dj hohum wrote:

> On 8/4/07, Plan B (Peter Grenader) <peter@ear-group.net> wrote:
>> Provide schematics for the consumer or for a repair technician?
>> For the consumer, only the guys who make kits provide schematics.
>> Nobody who makes completed units do that.
> And companies like Roland, Korg, Yamaha, etc. No they aren't making
> modular synths anymore, but they do make analog products which can be
> cloned, guitar pedals for example.
> I really don't buy the arguments that I often hear, however. Amateur
> radio faces the same problems yet companies still provide schematics.
> As I said, if doepfer or bheringer et al want to steal your designs
> they don't need a schematic as they'll just make their own. I'm not
> sure who else you think is going to steal them. I hate to break it to
> you but there isn't an army of sdiyers chomping at the bit to build up
> your latest creations. And again, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that
> you should put your schematics up on the web, but simply to provide
> them to end users if they ask for them. Hell, I'm not even suggesting
> that you provide them for free. Roland sure doesn't.
> But, we already knew that you didn't provide schematics Peter as it
> was your statement that prompted the question in the first place. I
> was interested in experiences other people have had with other
> companies.
> daryl

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