Re: [AH] analog mixers with multi-channel digital outs

From Patrick Walsh
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My recommendation would be the Midas range>> =
http://www.midasconsoles.com/Products/VF32.aspx

p.

On 23 Jan 2015, at 21:27, laurie wrote:

> well, the thing I like about the light pipe on the RME is you don't =
have to have a version of Cubase loaded so you can hear more than 2 =
channels...
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> If you have a Alesis HD recorder, you have 24 ins outs there both =
Balanced and Light Pipe... there are lots of USB AD converters , but =
they require Cubase to
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> ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:39:58 -0600 Em Wilson =
<emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote ----=20
> I seem to recall Mackie going through some pretty serious QC issues - =
was that just a bunch of message board chatter, or have they sorted that =
out?
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> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
> Yes, and you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and =
that has the DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of =
them, and you'd need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 =
channels, I think. The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the =
digital inputs are four AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular =
outboard converter for expansion. All in all, I think it would get quite =
expensive to build a digital I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate =
converters - the ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not quite top in sound =
quality.
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> Brian
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> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie <laurie@ronchmusic.com> wrote:
> > if you have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 =
channels  to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 =
channel HDSP I think its called for PC ....  ins and outs  0 latency
> >
> > ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. =
Horton<horton.andrew@gmail.com> wrote ----
> > Just to clarify - those don't have the firewire.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
> > I was just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with =
FireWire, Perkins "British-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced =
mic/line outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and =
that's separate from the usual inserts on every channel.
> >
> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html
> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html
> > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4
> >
> > You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for a set. Of =
course, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) then you're =
set!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" <horton.andrew@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> > > Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin =
footprint, too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like =
a charm. Have never once had an issue making records on it for the past =
few years.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson =
<emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I'm researching a new desk and looking for options similar to the =
Venice f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've had Soundcraft and Spirit =
desks for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines
> > >>
> > >> Under $5,000
> > >> 16-24 channels
> > >> Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, 16-24
> > >> Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreciated)
> > >> 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)
> > >>
> > >> I'm hoping are European comrades are aware of some options we =
don't normally hear about here in the states. Bonus points if the =
console matches my Costco desk chair!
> > >>
> >
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> Archivist/Collections Manager @ your local tribal entity
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">My =
recommendation would be the Midas range&gt;&gt;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.midasconsoles.com/Products/VF32.aspx">http://www.midasc=
onsoles.com/Products/VF32.aspx</a><div><br></div><div>p.</div><div><br><di=
v><div>On 23 Jan 2015, at 21:27, laurie wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta =
content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"><div><div =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><=
div>well, the thing I like about the light pipe on the RME&nbsp;is you =
don't have to have a version of Cubase loaded so you can hear more than =
2 channels...<br><br>If you have a Alesis HD recorder, you have 24 ins =
outs there both Balanced and Light Pipe...&nbsp;there are lots of USB AD =
converters , but they require Cubase to<br></div><div =
class=3D"zmail_extra"><div id=3D"1"><br>---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 =
13:39:58 -0600 <b>Em Wilson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:emwilson612@gmail.com">emwilson612@gmail.com</a>&gt;</b> =
wrote ---- <br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 5px; =
padding-left: 6px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); border-left-width: =
1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I seem to recall Mackie =
going through some pretty serious QC issues - was that just a bunch of =
message board chatter, or have they sorted that =
out?</div><div><br><div>On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian =
Willoughby <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brianw@audiobanshee.com" =
target=3D"_blank">brianw@audiobanshee.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-style: solid; position: static; z-index: auto; ">Yes, and =
you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and that has =
the DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of them, and =
you'd need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 channels, =
I think. The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the digital =
inputs are four AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular outboard =
converter for expansion. All in all, I think it would get quite =
expensive to build a digital I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate =
converters - the ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not quite top in sound =
quality.<br> <span><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Brian<br> =
</font></span><div><div><br> <br> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:laurie@ronchmusic.com" =
target=3D"_blank">laurie@ronchmusic.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; if you =
have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 channels&nbsp; =
to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 channel HDSP I =
think its called for PC ....&nbsp; ins and outs&nbsp; 0 latency<br> =
&gt;<br> &gt; ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. Horton&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:horton.andrew@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote ----<br> &gt; =
Just to clarify - those don't have the firewire.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On =
Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brianw@audiobanshee.com" =
target=3D"_blank">brianw@audiobanshee.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; I was =
just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with FireWire, =
Perkins "British-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced mic/line =
outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and that's =
separate from the usual inserts on every channel.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; <a =
href=3D"http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html</a><=
br> &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html</a><b=
r> &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4</a><br> =
&gt;<br> &gt; You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for =
a set. Of course, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) =
then you're set!<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Brian<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On Jan 23, =
2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:horton.andrew@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; =
Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin footprint, =
too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like a charm. =
Have never once had an issue making records on it for the past few =
years.<br> &gt; &gt;<br> &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em =
Wilson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emwilson612@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">emwilson612@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; =
I'm researching a new desk and looking for options similar to the Venice =
f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've had Soundcraft and Spirit desks =
for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines<br> &gt; =
&gt;&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Under $5,000<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; 16-24 =
channels<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, =
16-24<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but =
appreciated)<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; 100mm faders (I might be flexible =
here...maybe)<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; I'm hoping are =
European comrades are aware of some options we don't normally hear about =
here in the states. Bonus points if the console matches my Costco desk =
chair!<br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br> &gt;<br> =
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arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(228, =
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ezhi-ditibiseyaan</font></font></b></div><ul><li><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.72px;">Creative Lead @ Wendigo Technical =
Unit</span><br></li><li><span style=3D"font-size: =
12.72px;">Archivist/Collections Manager @ your local tribal =
entity</span><br></li><li><span style=3D"font-size: 12.72px;">Hoop =
Dancer, bustle maker, hide tanner, and cultural arts educator @ =
Ezhichige =
Ezhichiged</span></li></ul><div><br></div></div></div></div></div> =
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