Re: [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!

From Filip Sneppe
Sent Mon, May 20th 2013, 21:35

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Hi David, where is this quoted from ? Thanks!


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:40 PM, David Bulog <d2ba@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> well the exciting news is an upgrade is being developed and new OS will be
> sure to fix the indiv outputs
>
> quote
>
> res pin is pin 4 you need to cut the tracks on both sides of pcb as some
> are connected both sides tide to ground giving there res pin ov no res
>
> you then have to solder a 100ohm current limiting resistor
>
> and then you need to find a cv source max 7v the cv dac would be the best
> place for this i used the doepfer 5v midi to 16 5vcv
>
> then you will need a pot 10k linear you connect this to
>
> the cv source ground and the wiper to the 100ohm resistor you connected to
> ther res pin
>
> now you can change the res easily
>
> but because its a rack its best to use the doepfer unit as you can control
> it via midi
>
> you can also do a matrix12 pole mixing giving 15 types of filter
>
> this requires a new daughter board to be made that will sit in
>
> sockets like toms digi boards no pcb cutting will be required as it will
> be done on the daughter board
>
> but tom is working on new upgrades for the dsm1 to bring it to the same
> spec as the dss1-x
>
> and im designing the filter board as it would be best to get both done at
> the same time
>
>
>
> On 21/05/2013, at 5:23 AM, Andrew Scheidler wrote:
>
> The Roland S-550 is a pretty good sampler for percussion (from analogue
> synths of course!).  There are 8 assignable outs and a LP / HP / BP filter
> with res that sounds pretty good for digital.  Crunchy 12 bit sound :-)
>
> Drew
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2013, Nick Zampiello wrote:
>
>> i was wondering about this output assignment mapping as well.
>>
>> the Casio FZ samplers did the same thing.
>>
>> round robbin of the outputs rendering all that hardware useless except
>> for the one time you need that trick.
>>
>> Kurzweil samplers had 6 outs ( i believe configured as 3 stereo pairs )
>> that you could really assign the outputs of specific samples.
>>
>> 6 isn't 8 but it's not 2 either!
>>
>> after googling i found this:
>>
>> http://www.sweetwater.com/k2000/qanda.html
>>
>> *OUTPUTS:* The keyboard has 4 separate audio outputs plus the stereo
>> master pair; the rack has 8 separate audio outputs plus the stereo master
>> pair. *SAMPLE INPUTS:* The rack has a pair of balanced XLR sample inputs.
>> *SCSI BUSS:* The rack has a second SCSI buss connector (acting as a SCSI
>> through), allowing multiple K2000R's to share the same hard drive.*INTERNAL
>> HARD DRIVE:* The keyboard can house a 540Mb internal hard drive; the
>> rack can house a 1 Gig. *DAC's:* The rack contains two more stereo high
>> quality DAC's (digital to audio converters) than the keyboard for the
>> additional audio outputs. *STEREO OUTPUTS/AUDIO JACKS:* The rack
>> contains 4 more stereo audio jacks than the keyboard (to allow the outputs
>> to double as inserts). *FAN KIT:* The basic keyboard does not contain a
>> fan kit; the rack (and the units with the sampling option already added)
>> comes standard with the fan kit.*PRICE:* The cost between the two
>> differs by only $100.00 retail because the cost of the K2000's enclosure
>> and keyboard are relatively inexpensive, and the rack contains the above
>> features not included on the keyboard.
>>
>> z
>>
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>>  *From:* Grant Headquarters <jggrant@melbpc.org.au>
>> *To:* analogue@hyperreal.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2013 8:46 AM
>> *Subject:* [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!
>>
>>
>> If you thought you could have, for example, kick on 1 output, snare on
>> another, etc.,  you'll be sadly disappointed.   Unfortunately, there's no
>> way to properly assign voices.  Individual voices cycle through the
>> multiple outputs, making them, in effect, useless.   You can really only
>> use it with the main (mono) output.
>>
>> [Well, Korg hadn't had a lot of experience with samplers.   One of the
>> things people said about the earlier DSS-1 was "it would be cool with
>> multiple outputs".  So they did it ....!]
>>
>>
>> jg::
>>
>>
>> > Hi I have a few questions on
>>  Korg DSM-1 rackmount sampler ---16 analog voices and 16 outs
>>
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi David, where is this quoted from ? Thanks!</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013=
 at 8:40 PM, David Bulog <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d2ba@xtra.=
co.nz" target=3D"_blank">d2ba@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">well the=
 exciting news is an upgrade is being developed and new OS will be sure to =
fix the indiv outputs<div>
<br></div><div>quote</div><div><br></div><div><table cellspacing=3D"0" cell=
padding=3D"0" style=3D"font-size:inherit;width:845px;border-top-width:1px;b=
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top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-l=
eft-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(178,178,178);border-right-color:rgb(17=
8,178,178);border-bottom-color:rgb(178,178,178);border-left-color:rgb(178,1=
78,178);background-color:rgb(247,247,247);margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;m=
argin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:754px;font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,clean,sans-serif">
<tbody><tr style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><td style=3D"vertica=
l-align:top;font-family:Georgia;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:0px=
!important;border-bottom-width:0px!important;border-left-width:0px!importan=
t;border-style:initial!important;border-color:initial!important;border-top-=
style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(123,158,189)">
<div style=3D"padding-top:0px;padding-right:4px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-=
left:4px;margin-top:15px;margin-right:15px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:1=
5px"><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">res pin is pin 4 you ne=
ed to cut the tracks on both sides of pcb as some are connected both sides =
tide to ground giving there res pin ov no res</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=
=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">you then have to solder a 100ohm curre=
nt limiting resistor</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Ar=
ial"></font>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">and then you need to find a =
cv source max 7v the cv dac would be the best place for this i used the doe=
pfer 5v midi to 16 5vcv</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D=
"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">then you will need a pot 10k=
 linear you connect this to</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font fac=
e=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">=
the cv source ground and the wiper to the 100ohm resistor you connected to =
ther res pin</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=
=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">now you can change the res easily</fon=
t></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div=
 style=3D"clear:none">
<font face=3D"Arial">but because its a rack its best to use the doepfer uni=
t as you can control it via midi</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><fon=
t face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Ar=
ial">you can also do a matrix12 pole mixing giving 15 types of filter</font=
></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=
=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">this requires a new daughter board to =
be made that will sit in</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=
=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial">sockets like toms digi board=
s no pcb cutting will be required as it will be done on the daughter board<=
/font></div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>=
<div style=3D"clear:none">
<font face=3D"Arial">but tom is working on new upgrades for the dsm1 to bri=
ng it to the same spec as the dss1-x</font></div><div style=3D"clear:none">=
<font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div><div style=3D"clear:none"><font face=
=3D"Arial">and im designing the filter board as it would be best to get bot=
h done at the same time</font></div>
</div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On 21/05/2013, at 5:23 AM, Andrew Scheid=
ler wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">The Roland S-550 is a pretty =
good sampler for percussion (from analogue synths of course!). =A0There are=
 8 assignable outs and a LP / HP / BP filter with res that sounds pretty go=
od for digital. =A0Crunchy 12 bit sound :-)<div>

<br></div><div>Drew<span></span><br><br>On Monday, May 20, 2013, Nick Zampi=
ello  wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<div style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><spa=
n>i was wondering about this output assignment mapping as well.</span></div=
><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background-=
color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333339=
69116211px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-=
serif"><span>the Casio FZ samplers did the same thing.</span></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background-color:tra=
nsparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333339=
69116211px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-=
serif"><span>round robbin of the outputs rendering all that hardware useles=
s except for the one time you need that trick.</span></div>

<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background-c=
olor:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span><br></span=
></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;backg=
round-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span>Kurzweil samplers had 6 outs ( i believe configured as 3 stereo pairs=
 ) that you could really assign the outputs of specific samples.</span></di=
v><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background=
-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333339=
69116211px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-=
serif"><span>6 isn&#39;t 8 but it&#39;s not 2 either!</span></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background-color:tran=
sparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333339=
69116211px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-=
serif"><span>after googling i found this:</span></div><div style=3D"font-st=
yle:normal;font-size:13.333333969116211px;background-color:transparent;font=
-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><br></span></div><div style=3D"background-color:transparent"><span><f=
ont><a href=3D"http://www.sweetwater.com/k2000/qanda.html" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.sweetwater.com/k2000/qanda.html</a></font><br></span></div><di=
v style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:15.555556297302246px;background-colo=
r:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">

<span><font><br></font></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-si=
ze:13.333333969116211px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,he=
lvetica,sans-serif"><span><table width=3D"100%" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D=
"0" cellpadding=3D"1" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12px">

<tbody><tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td width=3D"78%"><stron=
g>OUTPUTS:</strong>=A0The keyboard has 4 separate audio outputs plus the st=
ereo master pair; the rack has 8 separate audio outputs plus the stereo mas=
ter pair.</td>

</tr><tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>SAMPLE INPUTS:=
</strong>=A0The rack has a pair of balanced XLR sample inputs.</td></tr><tr=
 valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>SCSI BUSS:</strong>=A0=
The rack has a
 second SCSI buss connector (acting as a SCSI through), allowing multiple K=
2000R&#39;s to share the same hard drive.</td></tr><tr valign=3D"top" style=
=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>INTERNAL HARD DRIVE:</strong>=A0The keyboar=
d can house a 540Mb internal hard drive; the rack can house a 1 Gig.</td>

</tr><tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>DAC&#39;s:</st=
rong>=A0The rack contains two more stereo high quality DAC&#39;s (digital t=
o audio converters) than the keyboard for the additional audio outputs.</td=
>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>STEREO OUTPUTS/AUDI=
O JACKS:</strong>=A0The rack contains 4 more stereo audio jacks than the ke=
yboard (to allow the outputs to double as inserts).</td></tr><tr valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font-size:12px">

<td><strong>FAN KIT:</strong>=A0The basic keyboard does not contain a fan k=
it; the rack (and the units with the sampling option
 already added) comes standard with the fan kit.</td></tr><tr valign=3D"top=
" style=3D"font-size:12px"><td><strong>PRICE:</strong>=A0The cost between t=
he two differs by only $100.00 retail because the cost of the K2000&#39;s e=
nclosure and keyboard are relatively inexpensive, and the rack contains the=
 above features not included on the keyboard.<br>

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y 20, 2013 8:46 AM<br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [AH] Korg DSM-1 16=
 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div>
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    <br>
    If you thought you could have, for example, kick on 1 output, snare
    on another, etc.,=A0 you&#39;ll be sadly disappointed.=A0=A0 Unfortunat=
ely,
    there&#39;s no way to properly assign voices.=A0 Individual voices cycl=
e
    through the multiple outputs, making them, in effect, useless.=A0=A0 Yo=
u
    can really only use it with the main (mono) output.=A0=A0 <br>
    <br>
    [Well, Korg hadn&#39;t had a lot of experience with samplers.=A0=A0 One=
 of
    the things people said about the earlier DSS-1 was &quot;it would be co=
ol
    with multiple outputs&quot;.=A0 So they did it ....!]<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    jg::<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <font face=3D"Arial">&gt; Hi I have a few questions on<br>
      =A0Korg DSM-1 rackmount sampler ---16 analog voices and 16 outs</font=
><br>
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