RE: [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!

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Thanks for sharing the links but WTF filters or post-processing  has been u=
sed on those pics?
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From: David Bulog<mailto:d2ba@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: =E2=80=8E26/=E2=80=8E05/=E2=80=8E2013 19:14
To: analogue@hyperreal.org<mailto:analogue@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!

There is a really nice example on Ebay --only $269  buy now + international=
 shipping
That seller is really good with packaging too
snap it up--enjoy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190846246593



On 21/05/2013=2C at 6:40 AM=2C David Bulog wrote:

> well the exciting news is an upgrade is being developed and new OS will b=
e sure to fix the indiv outputs
>
> quote
>
> res pin is pin 4 you need to cut the tracks on both sides of pcb as some =
are connected both sides tide to ground giving there res pin ov no res
>
> you then have to solder a 100ohm current limiting resistor
>
> and then you need to find a cv source max 7v the cv dac would be the best=
 place for this i used the doepfer 5v midi to 16 5vcv
>
> then you will need a pot 10k linear you connect this to
>
> the cv source ground and the wiper to the 100ohm resistor you connected t=
o ther res pin
>
> now you can change the res easily
>
> but because its a rack its best to use the doepfer unit as you can contro=
l it via midi
>
> you can also do a matrix12 pole mixing giving 15 types of filter
>
> this requires a new daughter board to be made that will sit in
>
> sockets like toms digi boards no pcb cutting will be required as it will =
be done on the daughter board
>
> but tom is working on new upgrades for the dsm1 to bring it to the same s=
pec as the dss1-x
>
> and im designing the filter board as it would be best to get both done at=
 the same time
>
>
>
> On 21/05/2013=2C at 5:23 AM=2C Andrew Scheidler wrote:
>
>> The Roland S-550 is a pretty good sampler for percussion (from analogue =
synths of course!).  There are 8 assignable outs and a LP / HP / BP filter =
with res that sounds pretty good for digital.  Crunchy 12 bit sound :-)
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Monday=2C May 20=2C 2013=2C Nick Zampiello wrote:
>> i was wondering about this output assignment mapping as well.
>>
>> the Casio FZ samplers did the same thing.
>>
>> round robbin of the outputs rendering all that hardware useless except f=
or the one time you need that trick.
>>
>> Kurzweil samplers had 6 outs ( i believe configured as 3 stereo pairs ) =
that you could really assign the outputs of specific samples.
>>
>> 6 isn't 8 but it's not 2 either!
>>
>> after googling i found this:
>>
>> http://www.sweetwater.com/k2000/qanda.html
>>
>> OUTPUTS: The keyboard has 4 separate audio outputs plus the stereo maste=
r pair=3B the rack has 8 separate audio outputs plus the stereo master pair=
.
>> SAMPLE INPUTS: The rack has a pair of balanced XLR sample inputs.
>> SCSI BUSS: The rack has a second SCSI buss connector (acting as a SCSI t=
hrough)=2C allowing multiple K2000R's to share the same hard drive.
>> INTERNAL HARD DRIVE: The keyboard can house a 540Mb internal hard drive=
=3B the rack can house a 1 Gig.
>> DAC's: The rack contains two more stereo high quality DAC's (digital to =
audio converters) than the keyboard for the additional audio outputs.
>> STEREO OUTPUTS/AUDIO JACKS: The rack contains 4 more stereo audio jacks =
than the keyboard (to allow the outputs to double as inserts).
>> FAN KIT: The basic keyboard does not contain a fan kit=3B the rack (and =
the units with the sampling option already added) comes standard with the f=
an kit.
>> PRICE: The cost between the two differs by only $100.00 retail because t=
he cost of the K2000's enclosure and keyboard are relatively inexpensive=2C=
 and the rack contains the above features not included on the keyboard.
>>
>> z
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Grant Headquarters <jggrant@melbpc.org.au>
>> To: analogue@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Monday=2C May 20=2C 2013 8:46 AM
>> Subject: [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!
>>
>>
>> If you thought you could have=2C for example=2C kick on 1 output=2C snar=
e on another=2C etc.=2C  you'll be sadly disappointed.   Unfortunately=2C t=
here's no way to properly assign voices.  Individual voices cycle through t=
he multiple outputs=2C making them=2C in effect=2C useless.   You can reall=
y only use it with the main (mono) output.
>>
>> [Well=2C Korg hadn't had a lot of experience with samplers.   One of the=
 things people said about the earlier DSS-1 was "it would be cool with mult=
iple outputs".  So they did it ....!]
>>
>>
>> jg::
>>
>>
>> > Hi I have a few questions on
>>  Korg DSM-1 rackmount sampler ---16 analog voices and 16 outs
>>
>>
>


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>Re: [AH] Korg DSM-1 16 analog voices and 16 outs wow!!!!</span><br>
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">There is a really nice example on Ebay =
--only $269 &nbsp=3Bbuy now &#43=3B international shipping
<div>That seller is really good with packaging too<br>
<div>snap it up--enjoy</div>
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<div><a href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/190846246593">http://www.ebay.com/i=
tm/190846246593</a></div>
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<div>On 21/05/2013=2C at 6:40 AM=2C David Bulog wrote:</div>
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">well the exciting news is an upgrade is=
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<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">res pin is pin 4 =
you need to cut the tracks on both sides of pcb as some are connected both =
sides tide to ground giving there res pin ov no res</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">you then have to =
solder a 100ohm current limiting resistor</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">and then you need=
 to find a cv source max 7v the cv dac would be the best place for this i u=
sed the doepfer 5v midi to 16 5vcv</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">then you will nee=
d a pot 10k linear you connect this to</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">the cv source gro=
und and the wiper to the 100ohm resistor you connected to ther res pin</fon=
t></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">now you can chang=
e the res easily</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">but because its a=
 rack its best to use the doepfer unit as you can control it via midi</font=
></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">you can also do a=
 matrix12 pole mixing giving 15 types of filter</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">this requires a n=
ew daughter board to be made that will sit in</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">sockets like toms=
 digi boards no pcb cutting will be required as it will be done on the daug=
hter board</font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">but tom is workin=
g on new upgrades for the dsm1 to bring it to the same spec as the dss1-x</=
font></div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp=3B</=
div>
<div style=3D"clear:none"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">and im designing =
the filter board as it would be best to get both done at the same time</fon=
t></div>
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<div>On 21/05/2013=2C at 5:23 AM=2C Andrew Scheidler wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"x_Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">The Roland S-550 is a pretty good sampler for per=
cussion (from analogue synths of course!). &nbsp=3BThere are 8 assignable o=
uts and a LP / HP / BP filter with res that sounds pretty good for digital.=
 &nbsp=3BCrunchy 12 bit sound :-)
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Drew<span></span><br>
<br>
On Monday=2C May 20=2C 2013=2C Nick Zampiello wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=3B border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid=3B padding-left:1ex">
<div>
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f">
<div style=3D"font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif=3B font-size:10p=
t"><span>i was wondering about this output assignment mapping as well.</spa=
n></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span><br>
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<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span>the Casio FZ samplers did the same thing.</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span><br>
</span></div>
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ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span>round robbin of the outputs rendering all that hardware useless excep=
t for the one time you need that trick.</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span>Kurzweil samplers had 6 outs ( i believe configured as 3 stereo pairs=
 ) that you could really assign the outputs of specific samples.</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal=3B font-size:13.333333969116211px=3B backgr=
ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
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ound-color:transparent=3B font-family:verdana=2Chelvetica=2Csans-serif">
<span>6 isn't 8 but it's not 2 either!</span></div>
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<span>after googling i found this:</span></div>
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</span></div>
<div style=3D"background-color:transparent"><span><font><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.sweetwater.com/k2000/qanda.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sweetwater=
.com/k2000/qanda.html</a></font><br>
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<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td width=3D"78%"><strong>OUTPUTS:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe keyboard has 4 separ=
ate audio outputs plus the stereo master pair=3B the rack has 8 separate au=
dio outputs plus the stereo master pair.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>SAMPLE INPUTS:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe rack has a pair of balanced =
XLR sample inputs.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>SCSI BUSS:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe rack has a second SCSI buss conn=
ector (acting as a SCSI through)=2C allowing multiple K2000R's to share the=
 same hard drive.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>INTERNAL HARD DRIVE:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe keyboard can house a 5=
40Mb internal hard drive=3B the rack can house a 1 Gig.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>DAC's:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe rack contains two more stereo high q=
uality DAC's (digital to audio converters) than the keyboard for the additi=
onal audio outputs.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>STEREO OUTPUTS/AUDIO JACKS:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe rack contains 4=
 more stereo audio jacks than the keyboard (to allow the outputs to double =
as inserts).</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>FAN KIT:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe basic keyboard does not contain a =
fan kit=3B the rack (and the units with the sampling option already added) =
comes standard with the fan kit.</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"font-size:12px">
<td><strong>PRICE:</strong>&nbsp=3BThe cost between the two differs by only=
 $100.00 retail because the cost of the K2000's enclosure and keyboard are =
relatively inexpensive=2C and the rack contains the above features not incl=
uded on the keyboard.<br>
<br>
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rant Headquarters &lt=3B<a href=3D"" target=3D"_blank">jggrant@melbpc.org.a=
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Unfortunately=2C there's no way to properly assign voices.&nbsp=3B Individu=
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[Well=2C Korg hadn't had a lot of experience with samplers.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B=
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<font face=3D"Arial">&gt=3B Hi I have a few questions on<br>
&nbsp=3BKorg DSM-1 rackmount sampler ---16 analog voices and 16 outs</font>=
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