Re: IDM List archives

From Sham Beam
Sent Fri, Feb 27th 2015, 05:40

I thought the "drill" was added as it kind of describes how people dance 
to dnb at those tempos.


On 2/27/2015 2:44 PM, c j wrote:
> So I guess that is to say...I know of the when the term was first
> applied, and to whom...but I don't actually know the answer to your
> question :|
>
> I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre titles...
>
> ...but given that a lot of drill n' bass artists had backgrounds in
> jungle, and jungle became drum n' bass, I can see these weird techno
> proto-junglists evolving their own music into it's own drum n' bass
> derivative, "drill n' bass". I can only neckbeardedly speculate and
> propose that drills are oft associated not just for their annoying
> sound, but their propensity and function to "wind up", much in the way
> intense beat repeating and programming does in drill n' bass. Well, my
> mind makes that fundamental connection...but would I have called it
> drill n' bass at the time? Had I been one of the purveyors? I don't
> think so, so I can't say where the "drill" part really comes from.
>
> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
>
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> From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx
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> Subject: RE: IDM List archives
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:29:46 -0700
>
> common knowledge (?), but Plug's Drum and Bass for Papa EP is typically
> considered the first "drill n' bass" album. As to whether or not the
> term originated around this time/coincided specifically with this
> release, or was applied at a later date to that album and subsequent
> artists, I do not know.
>
> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
>
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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:55:28 -0500
> Subject: IDM List archives
> From: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
> To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
> Hello list,
>
> I'm trying to access to old IDM List archives on
> http://web.archive.org/, but only some of the topics will open.
>
> Do you know where we can browse the entire archives ? If its not done
> yet, I really think that having a dump somewhere would be great for
> science :)
> As an example, I'm trying to find when the first(s) occurence(s) of
> drill and drill'n'bass appeared.
>
> I can reach a 1997 topic by Styrolene VaT
> http://web.archive.org/web/20071118222100/http://elists.resynthesize.com/idm/1997/01/442429/
>
> But i can not read most of the post that could contain some uses of the
> word or expression before or after this date.
>
> I also found topics with the names "anti-drills" and "drills", later in
> 1997, but could not read what is inside :(
>
> Also, if you have any other information/source from inside or outside
> the IDM List about the word "drill" from the drill'n'bass, feel free to
> message me :)
>
> A. Papavassiliou


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Sham Beam